/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Steak boiling unitasker

>>12933978
No, my one is collecting dust for like 3 years now

It is the only way to taste reddit

>>12934061
Sold

After the novelty wears off, you'll probably not use it that much. It's nice when you're serving big pieces of meat, but an oven does the job well enough.

If you eat a lot of meat and have the opportunity to start making food 3 hours before dinner, go for it. When I get home I'll throw some marinated, cheap meat in the vide and eat a couple of hours later, always nice and tender.

>>12933978
I have one, I only ever use it when I have company over, I never use it when I am cooking for myself. That being said, every steak I've ever made in it has turned out amazing.

>>12935327
What he said. If you can afford to wait a bit, I think most meats turn out amazing in it.

>>12933978
>purchase cheap cut of meat
>throw into bag with marinade of choice
>before work, throw bag into pot
>come home to dinner with no cleanup

Few things are this based

>>12933978
>all-clad immersion circulator
Wat?

imagine boiling your meat in plastic.

if you use it often, its neat
if you dont, it sucks

>>12935327
What kind of meat and temperature is done in 3 hrs? Most of the time l look up those braising cuts they are like 8-12hr or like 24+ at lower temps.

>>12937287
https://scienceandfooducla.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/the-science-of-sous-vide/
read this and learn faggot

>>12933978
sous vide is what you do to vegetables. not meat.

>>12937541
>wordpress

>>12937551
Unironically kill yourself

>>12937589
ok, got a link to some trannys stupid wordpress so I can do it sustainably? fucking faggot kys

>>12937622
Based retard

>>12933978
Got mine at a sale for 50 bucks. It's great to use, I've gotten a lot of use out of it but I don't think it's worth much more than that. That said, I did recently try someone's sous vide spare ribs and they were a revelation so maybe I'm just not using that thing well enough yet.

>>12933989
Do you never entertain? I bring mine out when I have four or five people coming over for dinner. Sous vide the steaks and finish them on the grill helps streamline the cooking process so that everyone’s stuff comes out perfect and it frees up my stove top to prepare the rest of the meal. If I’m just cooking a steak for myself I do a reverse sear.

>>12933978
they're for shitters who only know the sear step of cooking a steak

>>12937538
Steak and chicken usually has a cook time of 2-4 hours to be perfect. Fish about 1 hour.

If you can't even sear a steak without fucking up, this is the meme for you

>>12933982
>>12934061
>>12937287
>>12938187
>reddit memers

>>12938278
>redditor buttblaster that his shitty steak boiler gets made fun of
get raped

>>12938296
>hurr steak boilur durr

>>12938278
Based steak boiling reddit shit

It's entertaining how redditors think it's still funny to say a bunch of obnoxious bullshit about a really great and versatile tool to have.

Even though they say the exact same retarded nonsense they were screeching two years ago.
>hurr boiling bag durr
>hurr unitasker durr

le fancy french terms

cooking a pork belly zouz vide right now for 24hrs.

>>12938368
tell me, what do you use yours for besides meat?

I don't know anyone who's tried sous vide and searing thats been disappointed.

You'll get a lot of hurrrrr durrrr boiled steak comments, yet none of them will explain why every high end steak house cooks their steaks sous vide and then sears. funny how that works.

>>12938368
This, I'm proud of boiling steak!

>>12938387
no one is questioning whether or not they work. steak houses use them because its efficient. regular consumers cooking for 1-3 people use them because its trendy. someone who knows how to cook a steak past the sear step has no use for this meme because it takes him 20 minutes to prepare his meal instead of 3 hours

>>12938387
No serious steakhouse uses sous vide, they all use big salamander type broilers

>>12938377
Mashed potatoes, quick pickles, carrots.

Mashed potatoes are especially great, you put all the ingredients in the bag, mash it in the bag, and it's ready to serve with a perfect texture.

And even if it were only used for meat, you can use it for basically any kind of meat, to get a broad variety of results depending on the exact cut, temp, and cook time you use. That's not a "unitasker", that's a heat source like your stove, oven, or grill.

>>12938421
Why not just use your stove or oven to make the food quickly and more efficiently?

>>12938421
>that's a heat source like your stove, oven, or grill.
yes its the same thing except it takes 5x longer to cook anything. which goes straight back to my point of: if you know how to cook meat past the sear step, why would you take 3 hours to do it with sous vide?

>>12938437
>>12938440
Because I want the specific control and end results.

Yes, I know how to cook a steak properly on the stove. But I can get a ribeye with the entire cut infused with salt, pepper, garlic, and fresh rosemary instead of just the surface, which is amazingly delicious. Vegetables can be cooked to an awesome texture that is extremely hard to replicate. And here's the big one: basically no flavor loss to the cooking medium if you know what you're doing.

And "efficient" is questionable. Once the water bath is at temp, it takes very little energy to hold it there, especially if you cover it to prevent evaporation.

Also, sometimes it's just really nice to be able to do 5 minutes of prep and walk away for a few hours, then do a few minutes of finishing work and get amazing results.

>>12938472
So you don't know how to cook, got it

>>12938528
If that's what you took from that, you aren't here to debate, you're just here to troll like a retard.

>>12938562
Keep boiling steak

>>12938116
Nice thick porkchop is about the same.

>>12933978
Yes you need one soe the cops spying in on your ass for being weak wont get hungry and have to eat shit food. Get one and stop bugging us with tasty food smells

>>12938574
>boiling
>No water contact
>never comes close to reaching a boil
>Still reddit meming

I sure do love having plastics seep into the food.

>>12938581
Basically, it's about the what kind of toughness and end texture you want. Most steaks, chops, and other lean cuts are best with a relatively short cook, same with poultry. It's stuff that you'd be running for 12-24 hours in a smoker anyways, or cooking the shit out of in the oven, that take that long or longer in SV.

>>12938589
>Implying this is a real problem at all with the right bags
Yet another ancient reddit meme.

>>12938604
I didn't know that not wanting cancer was reddit. the more you know.

>>12938588
>I'm not sucking the cock, I'm merely sucking the condom
This is how you sound

>>12938472
>justifying your boiled steak this hard

>>12938608
>>12938610
>>12938629
>Still reddit memeing

>>12938716
This post gave you cancer.

>>12938629
>sous vide
>boiling
Retard.

>>12938716
What the fuck is 'reddit memeing'? Saying it boils steaks is an objective truth, nothing reddit or meme about it. If anything redditors loves sous vide

>>12938716
>gets legitimate points thrown at him
>"r-reddit meme! opinion discarded!"
lmao cope harder faggot. just admit you dont know how to cook

>>12938726
>Saying it boils steaks is an objective truth
Because it is not boiling in any sense of the term, which means that not only is it not an "objective truth" it's a blatant lie about the technique.

>>12938745
>Hurr muh cumplut bullsheet is legit durr

>>12938757
how is
>>12938610
complete bullshit? pretty spot on comparison tbqh

there are cuts of meat meant to be cooked low and slow, and cuts of meat meant to be cooked over high heat. a crock pot does the former in a superior fashion over sous vide. you faggots think adding some herbs to a vacuum sealed bag magically distributes the flavor throughout the meat? i guarantee you finish your steak by searing and basting with butter/herb butter.

>>12933978
if you buy good meat don't need that shit

>>12938783
>quotes a troll as if an insulting statement has any merit in the debate
>Fundamentally misunderstands how SV works and why it's great
>Dis ting new an difrint, dis ting bad

>>12938783
>he cooks his steaks in a crock pot
Tell me you're joking?

>>12938824
good reading comprehension, idiot

>>12938835
>I guarantee you finish your steak by searing and basting with butter/herb butter
You're the one who stated crockpot steak is superior to sous vide.

>>12938852
>there are cuts of meat meant to be cooked low and slow
>there are cuts of meat meant to be cooked over high heat
>a crock pot does the former in a superior fashion over sous vide
maybe its because i didnt reddit space my 2nd point. sorry for the confusion. seemed pretty straight forward and anyone whose first language is english could comprehend though

Inherently feminine way of cooking, made for neo cooks with more tendie money than common sense or skill

>>12938888
>a crock pot does the former in a superior fashion over sous vide
A crock pot is an electrically simple device that can only cook at one temp, requiring long cook times to produce meals.

A sous vide circulator is a complex array of heating coils, water impellers, and thermocouples with a computer controller that maintain an extremely precise temperature. By carefully planning the exact temp and immersion time, you can get extremely precise results impossible with any other technique, or at least results that may require far more pinpoint timing.

They aren't the same, nor to they generate similar results. Crock pots are great at what they do, but they don't give you the same results as an SV setup.

>>12938904
>Those grapes were sour anyways

>>12938926
My crock pot has three temperature settings.
It allows me to stipulate the length of time my food takes to cook.
It has a rapid heat function too.

>>12938935
Is a sous vide machine expensive where you live or something? It's simply a useless unitasker

>>12938926
>A sous vide circulator is a complex array of heating coils, water impellers, and thermocouples with a computer controller that maintain an extremely precise temperature. By carefully planning the exact temp and immersion time, you can get extremely precise results impossible with any other technique, or at least results that may require far more pinpoint timing.
This is literall y reddit

>>12938939
>low high warm
They aren't really that different, it just takes longer for the crock to come up to its heat capacity. And timers and other things on crock pots are gimmicks, extras you can pay in for to feel better.

You can't make a really good olive oil poached salmon cooked at exactly 125 in a crock pot.

Sous vide is a meme. It's boiled meat in a bag.

Every single person in this thread is a redditor newfag

>>12938948
>unitasker

>>12938956
>hurr I dun understan wurd r liek nuu ting yurr da reddit nut mee!

>>12938965
Try posting without memes next time if you want a serious reply

>>12938985
Why? I'm only responding to retard-tier memes as it is. You keep calling it a unitasker, not understanding that that term is reserved for things that are only for one purpose, and probably not even good at that. Like Oxo's Avocado tool.

>>12933978
Sous Vide is a meme

>>12939013
Hating on sous vide is a worse meme. At least SV is a functional thing.

sous vide is a color by numbers gadget for housewives who can't cook because its impossible to fuck up something cooked sous vide. they get to feel like they can cook and their husband doesn't have to beat her with his belt after dinner. it's a win for the whole family

>>12939001
Its is an unitasker, the avocado tool can be used to slice fruit or something, a garlic press can be used to mince meat, but it that the proper use? Do these items stop being unitaskers just because you use them on other things? Same with sous vide, it's a steak boiling unitasker that is used by retards to do other things like half assed mashed potatoes or some other shit that can be made easily and faster with traditional methods

>>12938725
>I'm not sucking the cock I'm sucking the condom

>>12939029
hate?
I didn't say I hate it
But it is a meme

>>12939045
>A heat source you can cook meat, veggies, desserts, and many other things is a unitasker
>a single food-specific tool that's bad at that job isn't
Fucking bizarro world thinking.

>>12939053
>Heat source that can't boil
>durr durr imma focus on the other part instead of why using the word boil is retarded

Pros of sous vide:
>you don't need to actually cook, you put it in a bag and can watch rick and morty and browse /r/sousvide and get after a couple of hours a perfectly totally-not-boiled steak
>get reddit upvotes

Cons of sous vide:
>have to sear the food anyway after you not-boil it
>plastic bags full of tranny hormones that your food absorbs
>not fun as you aren't actually cooking
>takes a long fucking time
>you need a vacuum machine (sous vide means in a vacuum, so if you don't have one you are doing it wrong)
>reddit's all time favorite cooking method

>>12939107
>I didn't swallow the cum I merely sipped it

>>12939124
Why are you so obsessed with sucking dick, that it's the only thing you can think of?

>>12939131
I'm not obsessed with sucking dick, I merely enjoy it, totally not the same

>>12939117
>total retard pros and cons

>have to sear the food anyway after you not-boil it
So fucking what? You get a better overall steak out of it. And there are some great things like vegetables, fish, etc., that's great without searing.
>plastic bags full of tranny hormones that your food absorbs
Complete bullshit.
>not fun as you aren't actually cooking
Subjective, not actually true.
>takes a long fucking time
But it's unattended time, so fucking what?
>you need a vacuum machine (sous vide means in a vacuum, so if you don't have one you are doing it wrong)
Nope, you can do it with zip-lock freezer bags and just use water pressure to get the air out.

It's just fascinating how much this technique triggers douchebags, as if its existence is a personal affront to their identity.

>>12933978
Only for long cooks. It's too much of a pain in the ass if you're only making one or two steaks.

>>12939154
>You get a better overall steak out of it
You outed yourself as a cooklet, fucking lol

>>12939182
I can grill, reverse sear, pan fry, broil, and so on a fantastic steak, and I still prefer SV.

Stay mad, tastelet.

>>12939187
Fucking cooklet cope holy shit
>rambles about subjectivity then drops the 'I still prefer...'
Oh no no no no no, cooklet and mental midget

>>12939195
>Getting this bootyblasted about how others cook for themselves
>Getting this defensive because he wants to stay ignorant of how SV works
>Being so absolutely butthurt that this is how he chooses to spend his time, hating on a useful kitchen tool

Bet you're one of the trolls who edits stupid faces into pictures of cast iron.

>>12939215
It's ok cooklet, sous vide was made for people like you, too retarded to make good food and too poor to eat out

>>12939237
>projecting this hard

Sous vide was invented by high-end chefs and trickled its way down into use by home chefs. It's OK to admit you don't know what you're talking about.

No denial about trolling in cast iron threads, either, I see.

>>12939269
>sous vide was invented by high end chefs
A simple Google search proves you wrong, please stop posting

>>12939284
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=sous+vide+invention

Proves me right, you mean.

I like sous vide. I can mow the lawn or some shit while something cooks and then I use a fucking blow torch to sear the meat and it's just enjoyable for me. Fuck all of you people saying >boiled meat

I cook other ways all of the time but there's nothing wrong with using another tool for pure variation.

Turn a fucking rump roast into a bunch of tender juicy flavorful steaks another way fags, I dare you to even try.

>>12939053
>>12938985
>>12939045
>>12939013
Why don't redditors just neck themselves?
>>12939041
>>12939182
>>12939237

>>12939045
Is an oven a unitasker? How about a range?

You are retarded

man this thread is really a shitstorm

well op if you haven't left yet
if you want to try and sous vide something, you don't need a special device
you're just leaving it in hot water for an extended period of time, this can easily be achieved with a 5 dollar thermometre, some binder clips, and a couple wooden spoons, you can figure out what temperatures your stove top results in for your amount of water manually, it's just self adjusting, that's all the device really does special. Just don't melt the bag to your pot like a dumbass.
after you've done your attempt you can see if it was worth doing or not for the end result
my biggest issue with sous vide wands is that you can only run water through them, it's not like you can experiment or use them to keep soups and sauce at a proper temperature
commercial sous vide are basically just retooled deep fryers

>>12939298
>implying its hard
butter steak baked on trays
and I could do a dozen at once if wanted

people always try to compare sous vide to traditional, but if you throw tradition out the window you have a lot more options than 'almost boiling' your food

can one of you meme vide faggots provide an example of a meal you prepared with it that would be impossible with conventional cooking hardware? it certainly doesn't save time. it's certainly not cheaper (have to buy bags every single time you use it). even steaks are better using a reverse sear. the outside dries out in the oven allowing for a quick and easy sear when its ready. a steak cooked sous vide comes out of the bag warm and moist meaning you're going to have to take longer to get a good sear

>>12939387
Can any of you >hurr boil bag fags provide an example of how it's bad beside "hurr I dun liek it" spamming?

>>12939381
I can sous vide a dozen steaks at a time you fucking retard what's your point?

>>12939410
no one said its bad it's just unnecessary and doesn't provide any benefit other than allowing cooklets less of a chance to fuck up their food

>>12939387
my one buddy who creams himself over sous vide makes good asparagus with his, the plastic waste doesn't justify it to me though, just steam them

>>12939419
it was a response to you pretending sous vide is the only method to achieve a good end product, and even for production in a restaurant there are no downsides to avoiding sous vide
that was the point
but if you'd rather resort to name calling than reading and thinking I'm not sure you're worth discussing these things with

>>12939447
I wrote that I enjoy other methods of cooking too but sous vide adds some variation and flexibility with time allowing me to do other things. I resorted to calling you names because you deserve it, you bitch.

>>12939488
what because I did this effortlessly?

>Turn a fucking rump roast into a bunch of tender juicy flavorful steaks another way fags, I dare you to even try.

>>12939504
Holy shit, I never said you couldn't fag, it's just another way. If you can get to the same place two different ways do you always take the same way? Enjoy being a boring loser and only being able to talk about work and the weather. You're probably a fucking NEET anyway.

>>12939538
thanks you're pretty neat too

>>12938402
>someone who knows how to cook a steak past the sear step has no use for this meme

For real. I can get an edge-to-edge pink steak with a perfect sear in a stainless steel pan in 1/6 the time it takes to sous vide one. The most pointless gadget in the world.

>>12939668
Nobody cares how tiny your dick is, anon.

If you like large pieces of very rare but completely cooked it is pretty useful. I do all my half-pound burgers this way.

>>12933982
Fpbp

>>12939764
>retardposter

>>12939708
>cooklet rages about something completely unrelated
>he's also a faggot
color me surprised

>>12939802
>cooklet brags about how he's better than everyone else because he only cooks his steak one way
>Tries to accuse others of being faggots

>>12939806
>brings up someone's penis out of nowhere
>totally not gay
???

>>12939809
Says the faggot with 12 posts about "hurr you didn't suck the cock you sucked the condom."

>120posts
>1 image

Why doesn't anyone of you guys cook food?

>>12939387
>that would be impossible with conventional cooking hardware
>>12939447
>you pretending sous vide is the only method to achieve a good end product

Who are you quoting?

>>12940231
this guy >>12939298

>>12933978
I make more desserts with the joule app. Totes worth it

Bump. Lets keep this debate going

>>12939985

>>12938070
>reverse sear
Stop using that term as though it has any functional or effective meaning. It is a dumbshit term made up by those who want to think sous vide is something special.

>>12942334
It literally has a specific meaning and is the phrase for a certain method of preparing something. Quit being a triggered little faggot shaking and freaking out that someone said a word.

>>12942348
>specific
name those specifics beyond searing after primary cooking heat application

>>12942371
If I ever hear a cunt say the phrase "searing after primary cooking heat application" I'm gonna punch him in the throat

>>12941388
Your immersion circulator shouldn't be resting on the bottom of the container. Nice Unicorn, though.

>>12942424
So there are no other specifics, and you are trying to cover up your idiocy with foolishness?

>>12942453
Are you literally mentally fucking retarded? "Reverse sear" is what it's called you brain dead vegetable, not "searing after primary cooking heat application" which only a completely autistic cocksucker would ever say in reality.

>>12942424
language conveyed through instantaneous written dialogue oft differs from that spoken aloud.

>>12933978
If you're a raging homo you absolutely should. Otherwise no.

>>12942371
>name the specific thing
>apart from the specific thing

>>12937106
>tricking yourself into thinking it's convenient forgetting the fact that you've spent hours doing prep for it anyway

>>12942597
>Putting meat in a bag constitutes hours of prep
Retard.

>>12942607
>putting meat in a bag
yeah if that's all you do it will literally taste like shit.
>no sauce
Yeah stop tricking yourself pseudo gourmet fuckshit

>>12942611
>seasoning meat and putting it in a bag constitutes hours of prep
Retard.

>>12942611
Kek.
Are you the retard who cooks steak in a crockpot?

>>12942607
Damn, I thought you were dead.

>>12942640
wut??

>>12942645
Dude's been posting some variation of the generic girls laughing image and calling anon a retard for years. Haven't seen him post recently before now.

>>12942653
Dunno.
Just an image I found on /diy/

>>12942668
>

>>12942695

>>12942653
to be fair the guy he posted it to is a retard

>>12942706
Weird, I always thought you were German for some reason.

Yup I sure love squeezing out the boiled meat from the ziplock bag in front of guests. Yup I don't own a grill because my landlord said I can't have one but that's okay I'll just boil my meat in little plastic bags. No the slime is normal.

>>12942715
You pat it dry, sear it, and only then carve it in front of the guests - who will likely be mind-blown if it's their first time seeing sous vide.

>>12942715
Sous vide is boiling?
I thought the idea was to keep the water below boiling point ?

>>12942731
It's not but honestly it's a crutch way of cooking meat. People like it because it's good and most importantly unfuckable but I sincerely believe that the food will only ever be 7-8/10. I believe a properly cooked cut of meat on a grill/smoker/stove will always beat out sous vide.

>>12942751
>I believe a properly cooked cut of meat on a grill/smoker/stove will always beat out sous vide.
I don't even like sous vide but this is the most boomer thing I've read in my life

>>12942751
Glad you’re able to develop opinions.

>>12942759
Not him, but he's correct. Sous vide makes sense for restaurants where you're doing high volume rapidly but it's really pretentious and silly for a home cook and adds nothing to the game.

>>12942769
>all restaurants are the same
Also convenience seems like the opposite of pretentious but maybe I just need to internalize the self-hating NEET ethos of this board more completely

>>12942769
>sous vide makes sense for restaurants where you're doing high volume rapidly but it's really pretentious and silly for a home cook and adds nothing to the game
Congratulations, you've just won dumbest post of the week. Only higher end restaurants do sous vide because you can't cook the thing to order so have to have a pretty good idea of how much you're going to sell and charge enough to make up for any loss. In 2015 sous vide is much more popular and suited to home cooks.

I love my Sous Vide.

I'm gay btw.

>>12943008
>I'm gay btw.
Completely irrelevant. This post feels more like "homophobic troll" rather than someone who actually likes the technique.

>>12943166
Do you really think someone would do that on the internet? Just hop on a computer and start telling lies?

>>12933978
Absolutely retarded, only interesting on shit meat.

>>12943184
Yes.

>>12943166
doesn't seem irrelevant to me. why would a straight person want to buy a product endorsed by gays?

>leave work yesterday after shitposting all afternoon in this thread
>come to work this morning to find this thread still going strong
kek. you sous vide faggots really want to meme this gadget into mainstream huh? maybe learn to cook and you'll see how useless it is. the fact that i can't come home from work and use this to prepare a dinner that's ready at a reasonable time is proof of how shit it is. I either need to come home at lunch and get it going, or use it on weekends

>>12943258
Why would your sexual orientation matter for a kitchen appliance? It's pretty homophobic to say that you don't want a product just because "the gays" like it. It's not you'll catch "the gay" by using it too.

>>12943272
>Being this retarded and butthurt over an affordable kitchen appliance

>>12943272
>I either need to come home at lunch and get it going, or use it on weekends


>get home at 4:30
>Put steak in
>have a good wank and shower
>delicious meal ready to be finished when I want to eat

>>12933982
literally the opposite of this, watch the latest good eats episode on it

>>12942611

Holy shit your dumb and probably make shitty food and like dicks

>>12933978
it's good but'll take up storage if you don't cook with more fatty meats often
if you like chicken and shit i'm too bothered so i use a pressure cooker

>>12943325
more like
>get home at 5:20 because im not a commie who skips out on work early
>get home and take off work clothes
>pull out meme vide and steak
>unpackage steak then repackage it because lol sous vide!
>dinner starts by 6:30
>2 hours later my steak is ready to sear!
>heat up my cast iron pan to sear steak
>contemplate why i didn't just use the pan 2 hours ago
>15 minutes later I have a cooked steak
no one likes eating dinner at 9:00

It's good but it's not an ends all be all cooking device.

>>12943367
>get home at 5:20 because im not a commie who skips out on work early
>skips out on work early
Mad I'm salaried and get to shift my hours depending on when I get in, wage slave?

>>12943402
being salaried is a scam so your boss can avoid paying you overtime, so no, I am not mad that I will never work unpaid hours you cuck

>>12943367
you can start the sous vide in the morning or even the night before, genius.

>>12943427
>Implying I have that heavy a workload
I only work 40 a week, roughly, even if there's an emergency, I just get to leave earlier some other day. So you're still the madfag.

>>12943367
That's the thing about sous vide though. You can start it that morning or even the day before. It stays the same no matter how long you leave it in.

>>12943438
>I only work 40 a week
>only
gee anon how convenient

>>12943445
not him, but is it safe to leave a steak at 120 degrees for that long? or does bacteria die at ~120 degrees?

>>12943451
Note how mad he is about being stuck in an underpaying, low benefit job that is understaffed so he has to work excessive hours.

I'll remind you that overtime isn't supposed to be a benefit to the employee, but a punishment to the employer for not hiring enough people to do the work.

>>12943455
120's a bit low, 129-135 is more the ideal range.

A steak cooked for a lot longer than 4 hours is just going to turn out mushy, though.

Sous vide is basically for people who don't really cook

>>12943494
Not really, it requires a much deeper understanding of how heat and time in exact tuning affect the end result. Sure, there's apps that'll do a lot of that for you now, but most who are serious about it ignore that.

This is just the usual "x thing I'm not used to will ruin society" claim.

>[Writing] will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality.
-Socrates, ranting against the existence of books

>>12938376
Done. Delicious.

>>12943477
i guess if the employer is retarded. generally speaking though, its cheaper to let fewer employees get some overtime hours over having to pay benefits to extra employees. a place without benefits like mcdonalds will never pay overtime unless its 100% unavoidable

>>12943512
Not him but timing is part of all cooking. It's not that it will ruin society it's just if you buy one you're never going to use it because the food that it's produces isn't that good.

>>12943512
quoting a philosopher on 4chan doesnt make you seem high IQ, only like a tryhard faggot. as i said 1000 times yesterday, sous vide is a color by numbers kitchen gadget that lets cooklets feel like they know how to cook because its nearly impossible to fuck up using it.

>>12943494
More like for people too retarded to cook

>>12943523
>delicious
looks rubbery. i'll stick to the oven where I can have a really nice crisp layer of fat. a crock pot would have achieved your end result in half the time

>>12943536
>because the food that it's produces isn't that good.
And you're a moron.

>>12943542
>herp derp derp
That's all I got from that illiterate, badly formatted rant you just posted because you entirely missed the point of the quote. I was quoting him because he was plainly wrong about books, and is a great example of the idiotic, trollish (you) farming mindset that these threads are made for.

>>12943573
oh. sorry my post was too long for you to understand. ill shorten it for you so you get the gist, but im not going to punctuate it correctly you absolute faggot

sous vide is for cooklets.

there. done. eat a dick you mongoloid
>inb4 reddit spacing

>>12933978
it's a meme. you'll get sick of wasting 5 hours boiling a chicken breast that you then have to sear anyway to make it palatable.

>>12942611
>sauce on steak

>>12943573
Have sex

>>12943616
>No capitalization
>Retard punctuation
>Idiotic claims
And here we see exactly what kind of moron thinks they're superior because they don't use a modern kitchen gadget. I bet he's one of the same trolls who also berates anyone who dares praise cast iron.

>>12943651
>generic meaningless meme insult

>>12943654
>He post plato quotes on 4chan to defend his 130 dollar unitasker
Aquire cotius

>>12943659
>He thinks he has a high ground in this
>Still using the word unitasker wrong
>Still bootyblasted about what other people do with their money
All this energy to hate about something and the people who dare use it. Why don't you just run along and do something more constructive, like train to suck your own dick. at least if you succeed, one person will enjoy your presence.

>>12933982
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>>12942715
>boiling
Do you guys live on the top of mount Everest or something, or are you cooking in a vacuum? How is your water boiling at 135F? Or are you just too retarded to know what boiling actually means?

>>12943669
>REEEEEEEEEEE
>y-ou don't have the right to tell me I spend my money poorly
>I-ts not a unitasker I swear
sure bro. But uh you know (have sex)

>>12943494
I'm convinced given the ludicrous amount of time it takes, for example the retard itt taking 24 hours to cook a piece of pork belly, that the vast majority of people buy it, use it once and then just keep it around to smugly show it to people.

>>12943565
What part looks rubbery friend? It sounds like what I'm hearing is cope.

Can't we all just get along?

>>12943706
>>12943736
These are the same retard, even if different posters.

>>12943746
Apparently not, because trolls can't let anything be.

>>12933978
would be a cool novelty if not the heating in plastic bag thing

>>12943837
Don't blame trolls. Blame the ones feeding them.

>>12933978
Not unless you eat or serve a lot of red meat and fish that absolutely must be served exactly at temperature. Most of what this gadget can do (and sous vide does do it better) can be approximated through more conventional means.

>>12943864
But the conventional means are a lot more fiddly or easy to fuck up.

There's also some things it does that can't be replicated, like one of the original reasons it was made, to cook foie gras without any mass loss.

Or cook chicken breast to a perfect 140 and pasteurize it in the process.

And I'll say this: you can't replicate the end results with fish in a conventional method quite the same, especially for lower-temp recipes.

>>12943846
>Complete non-issue with Foodsaver or other freezer-rated polyethylene bags
>You can buy reusable silicone bags if you think it's that big a deal

>>12933978
aren't you getting a truckload of estradiol, bpa, and other hormonal gunk from boiling your meat in plastic bags? I can't imagine why anyone would willingly do this.

>>12944238
>Bullshit myth
>Keeps getting repeated

>>12937541
isn't there an article or two about how most scientists can't replicate their peers' test resuilts? most science shenanigans nowadays have become a sham and basically an ass kissing contest about who can be the most intellectual basic bitch to win grant money.

>>12944246
yea it's a myth all right

>>12944257
>bunch of faces are now a valid argument
the absolute state of /pol/cels

>>12944249
>>12944257
>/pol/tard "people I don't like" pics are supposed to be an argument against...something?

>>12944249
>when scientific research confirms what I like is unhealthy or dangerous, then I'll just smugly call it fake and keep doing it.
If it were just you happily kys to gratify your lusts no one would care, but the same attitude is being applied on a global scale with regard to the environment and climate and that's infuriating.

>>12942611
I bet you put A1 on steak. Just stop. It's painful.

>>12944287
>>12944296
This, just boil your meat in bags and eat bugs, its safe

>>12942348
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>>12942587
>I am the retarded one.
Hey fuckwits, what is the difference between that and a "normal" sear? Besides the order of tasks, which makes 0 effective and functional difference in the dish, what other specifics differences apply? None? Then stop using the term to make your cooking sound like it's something special. You seared the fucking steak. Good job. Specifying reverse sear makes you sound like a fucking retard who is impressed that he can pedal a bike backwards.

>>12944522
>It makes a big difference in the flavor, texture, and how consistently the steak is cooked through
>hurr durr no it duddn't

>>12944522
>Hey fuckwits, what is the difference between that and a "normal" sear?
The order, you stupid fuck. So it's called a reverse sear instead of "a sear but hurr durrrrr a thousand other words to explain it because I'm fucking autistic as shit."

So in short kill yourself you fuckin sped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRRUrhomU3o
sous vide haters btfo

Only good if you have a restaurant and want to keep food warm all day for easier service. Thats the only reason restaurants use them for steaks. Literally gives an inferior taste to just pan searing and oven finishing, and takes a lot longer to boot. Anyone who says different is a tastelet

>>12945254
>Literally gives an inferior taste
Nope.

Tasty has a good sous vide veggie video. Might watch again tomorrow and try some out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2oKUcMXrss

>>12943633
>cooking steak sous vide
Why? It doesn't "save" you any time or effort unless you like eating gray, pallid beef.

I still don't get using an oven for steak. I've always pan seared only, let it rest then eat. Turns out perfect every time. What's the point in the oven?

>>12945946
Reverse sear and sous vide (the latter more reliably) get you a clean seared crust and perfect edge to edge doneness exactly where you want it, pan sear only is gray gradient city.

The only way you can get "perfect" from pan sear only is if you like it seared blue or well done.

>>12945969
No I don't mean reverse sear. I've seen it commonly said by people they pan sear and then throw it in the oven. Never understood that.

>>12945731
>unless you like eating gray, pallid beef
I guess but the result would be that way also if you just barbecued it or seared it or whatever the fuck'd it normally without seasoning or spices anyways. That's not an exclusive to sous vide thing.

>>12933978
dishwasher

Just use a freezer bag and a pot of water.

>>12933978
>put meat in ziploc bag
>put bag in rice cooker , fill with water and use the keep warm function

wa la.....?

>>12933978
It's good for people who don't know how to cook so I'd recommend it to half of /ck/ since the other half never cooks at all

>>12946992
>iT's gOoD fOr PeOpLe WhO dOn'T KnoW hOw tO cOoK

>>12945717
>whoa! look at these super cool side dishes i made 6 hours in advance of my party using meme vide instead of using a stove in a fraction of the time! truly the best invention ever for serious chefs!
at least they didn't have to clean as many dishes, only throw away a bunch of bags :^) for that reason alone im sold on sous vide!

>>12947530
Damn a meme so outdated not even reddit uses it anymore. How embarrassing is this?

>>12947563
>>12947584
>I can't let anyone enjoy thing I don't understand!

>>12947618
reddit

>>12937622
You might be the dumbest person in this thread kiddo.

>>12947779

Imagine boiling steak in a bag lmao

>>12947921
Imagine being this ignorant and unoriginal that you keep repeating the same retarded meme already repeated 50 times in this thread that's been herp derped in threads on this subject for years now.

>>12933978
Cruise Control for custard and tempered chocolate

>>12947584
>knowing what plebbit use.

>>12933978
The thread that wouldn't die

>>12946992
What do you mean? If someone can make a piece of meat in peak condition how does that equate to not being able to cook?

>>12933978
>cooking your food inside of plastic
enjoy the feminizing hormones.

Interestingly you can achieve the exact same results in mason jars without the plastic leeching into your gonads.

>>12949859
why are incels so obsessed with their testicles and testosterone levels?

>>12949941
i don't know, incel, why don't you tell us?

>>12949941
Projection of insecurities.

>>12949859
That's absolute bullshit you moron. They've studied it and the bags used for sous vide are not the kind that leach chemicals into food when used as intended. Stupid fucking /pol/ack. Cry about chemtrails some more.

>>12950131
No they haven't studied it. What happened was, BPA got a bad rep and they replaced it with a number of other feminizing hormones.

All you need for sous vide is a fucking pot, a steamer basket or rack to elevate your thing off the bottom, and a mason jar. There is a multi-hundred-million dollar industry selling shitfuck single use appliances to the home user but none of it's actually needed. Just a $1 jar and a $2 metal rack.

>>12950146
Except the polyethylene bags used for vacuum and freezer bags don't use them, you're still full of it.

>>12950158
Yes they do, they might not use BPA but they use other feminizing hormone mimicking chemicals.

Mason jars are the only acceptable way to sous vide.

>>12950146
Quit embarrassing yourself you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Sous vide isn't even at a temperature where this happens.

Hey guys. I just got a sous vide and I was wondering if I could use it to santize my dildos without them melting? I was thinking I could skip the bag and put them in at 70 for 16 hours? Is that enough time for them to be cooked through?

>>12950192
>plastic leeching only happens at room temperature, not when you heat it up
it's a shame they stopped teaching chemistry in high schools

>>12950189
>Completely baseless nonsense

>>12950201
Yeah, then you might not be so retarded.

>>12950195
If silicone? Yes, just like you could put them in the dishwasher or a bucket of bleach water.

>>12950264
so you do realize that while i'm not a plastic engineer, my wife is, and they just flat replaced flexibility agents like bpa with other shit don't you?

memery aside, whats the best cut of steak to sous vide? tenderloin seems like a waste
i usually do ribeye when i sous vide steaks but they are a bit expensive. how about striploin or top sirloin? planning on doing it at 135F for at least 4 hours

>>12950267
>Still doesn't get that the vacuum bags never used them

• They're called immersion circulators.
• They're only unitaskers if you're a complete mongoloid.
• Plastic bags are just fine for you.
• Only morons are inconvenienced by long cooks. 72 hour cooking time? Easy, just set and forget for a few days.
• You can do things with an immersion circulator that aren't possible with other cooking methods, like make fork-tender, medium rare beef short ribs.
• If you say the word "boiling" in this thread you are objectively retarded.

>>12950267
>My wife
>plastic engineer
Dumb twats who push a button to make polystyrene flow into an injection mold aren't engineers, don't know jack squat about the materials science & chemistry involved with the plastics used in their factory, and really don't know shit about biology.

Your wife is just a factory worker. If she was in a chicken plant you'd claim she was an avian biologist. But she does read a lot on her mommyblogs while she's taking a dump during her break, so there's that...

Check it out - I found a picture of her posing in front of your single-wide:

>>12950369
>plastics industry shills getting this desperate
it's just sad

>>12950308
Honestly? Any steak will work out great. I don't bother with skirt/flank steak, they work out great under the broiler or right on the coals for a couple minutes each side.

Tenderloin/filet mignon is just kind of flavorless to start with, you get it because it's super soft and has no fat.

>>12950618
No, what's sad is your FUD masquerading as "science" concern.

>>12950651
bpa replacements aren't even disclosed, let alone tested for safety

>>12950655
>Being so scared of nothing that you screech about it everywhere

>>12933978
Absolutely. Whether you're a retard who burns everything or experienced chef, sous vide is great. You can perfectly cook any kind of protein, you literally CAN'T overcook the meat unless you purposefully set the temp wrong. It makes even shitty cuts of meat taste amazing and buttery tender. If you get vacuum seal bags, sous vide is even better.

>>12950661
>pretending that your shitty plastic bags are safe
just use jars like the anon said

>>12950683
>stuffing a steak in a mason jar
>When foodsaver bags are perfectly safe
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?

>>12950798
Imagine being so cucked out of your masculinity that you're literally afraid of imaginary plastic demons robbing you of the tiny amount of testosterone you have from your pea-sized balls.

>>12951287
I'm reminded of this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Otla5157c