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What is worse for bad cholesterol: red meat or cheese?

>> No.12937872

>>12937859
Processed red meat. Regular red meat and cheese aren't really much of a concern, unless you actually already have heart disease which was most likely caused by something else.

>> No.12937879

if you already have bad blood cholesterol ask your doctor
if you don't then don't worry about it because dietary cholesterol means jack shit

>> No.12937927

>>12937879
based and cholesterol pilled

>> No.12937939
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>>12937859
A cuckold libtard who doesnt eat red meat and cheeze lile a real man

>> No.12937946

>>12937859
For his money he should have been nailing cuties instead of that nasty looking maid through some secret tunnel.
It's like come on Arnold, have some taste.

>> No.12937948

>>12937939
He wasn't the cukold, it was his wife, he was banging the maid.

>> No.12937955

His wife was a kennedy type and pretty nasty looking, that was a political marriage. I don't know if even I in horney toad mode could get it up for that kennedy thing. Just look at her and no wonder Arnold went looking elsewhere.

>> No.12937968

He already had tons of money, he should have married for love, not politics.

>> No.12938282

>>12937939
based Ron Paul

>> No.12939555

Depends on the cheese.
Gouda is worse than Swiss, for example.

>> No.12939572

>>12937859
bofa is unironically worse than red meat and cheese combined!

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>>12937872
>>12937879
>>12937927
Dumbing Kuckold Effect

>> No.12939584

I like him, he was a good governor.
It must have been hilarious when the maids son came to the house and looked exactly like Arnold

>> No.12939587

>>12937859
Who cares about cholesterol?

>B-b-but I don't want to have a heart attack!
The connection between high cholesterol and incidence of heart disease is much, MUCH smaller than the well-established connection between heart disease and obesity, Type 2 diabetes, and metabolic syndrome (pre-diabetes), and epilepsy.

[I mention epilepsy because ketogenic diets (which are low carb diets) have been used to treat epilepsy.]

So if you don't want heart disease, eat less sugar and lose body fat. Oh, and another strong cause of heart disease is doing cardio. So if you're going to exercise, make it anabolic weight lifting.

The typical result of a low-carb diet, as far as blood work goes, is
>higher HDL (good)
>lower triglycerides (good)
>LDL stays the same (ok)
>total cholesterol stays the same (ok)

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>>12939587
>Who cares about cholesterol?
Anyone who isn’t a charlatan. You are such a stupid shit.

>> No.12939610

Shrimp and brains. Red meat being bad is a meme.

>> No.12939612

>>12937859

Refined sugar and carbohydrates

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>>12939612
>>12939610
A vested interest in disinformation

>> No.12939646

>>12939580
That doesn't really say much. Is it pushing it into dangerous levels?

>The following levels are considered to be "good" in healthy people:
>Total cholesterol: Levels below 200 mg/dL (5.2 mmol/L)
Doesn't seem like it.

>> No.12939658

>>12939646
It clearly demonstrates the link between dietary cholesterol consumption and blood cholesterol levels

>Total cholesterol: Levels below 200 mg/dL (5.2 mmol/L)
Doesn't seem like it.
The average person will be in a range of a heart attack if those cholesterol levels increase as illustrated in the graph, 1.2 mmol from DIETARY CHOLESTEROL ALONE mind you will designate you as heart healthy or highly at risk

>> No.12939702

>>12939658
>It clearly demonstrates the link between dietary cholesterol consumption and blood cholesterol levels
Okay, but it still doesn't say if it's pushing the average person's cholesterol levels too high. It's just saying that if you eat 14 eggs a day your cholesterol level will increase by 1.2 mmol/L. What was it before the increase? Is it still below 5.2 total?

Just seems like more studies are showing red meat and animal products themselves aren't the cause of so many of these problems, and that overeating along with a generally shitty diet full of too much salt and sugar and junk food is what you should worry about.

>> No.12939710

>>12939702
Why would a graph say that? The determination is baseline consumption and blood levels and that is what is beinf demonstrated. You can easily add 1+2 on your own.

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>>12939702
It seems that way because thats pop media narrative

>> No.12939796

>>12937859
Neither.
Being a fat fuck who’s grossly overweight is the primary reason your bad cholesterol numbers are awful.

>> No.12939821

>>12939710
Because knowing there's an increase doesn't matter if you don't know the total. Cholesterol going up doesn't mean you're at a higher risk of anything if it's still below a certain level.

>>12939733
Unless I misread, it's still not saying what it pushed total levels up to, just that there was an increase.

A site says the average vegan has a total cholesterol level of 4.1 mmol/L. So the graph saying eating 14 eggs per day would increase it by 1.2, up to 5.3, which is only very slightly higher than normal.

Most people aren't eating that much cholesterol. 2500mg of cholesterol is 14 eggs, 2.5 pounds of butter, or 6 pounds of beef. Even dividing it up, you'd have to eat about 5 eggs, a pound of butter, and 2 pounds of beef every day just to barely push your cholesterol levels over a normal amount. So it basically seems like there's no risk from animal products themselves, and that you should worry more about just eating too much in general, and the high rates of salt/sugar/junk food consumption. Smoking is a risk factor too.

>> No.12939826

>>12937859
I'd say meat because you'd likely eat a lot more meat than you are cheese

>> No.12939851

>>12939821
>5 eggs, a pound of butter, and 2 pounds of beef
Also that would be about 6k calories, which would be much more of a concern than the 2500mg of cholesterol.

>> No.12939854

Neither.
>2019
>Not eating exclusively animal products
Yikes! Sip soy goy

>> No.12939874

>>12939854
Humans are not carnivores

>> No.12939882

(((cholesterol)))

>> No.12940014

>>12939580
>>12939596
>>12939614
>>12939733
No one is saying that dietary cholesterol does not effect serum cholesterol just that it has less of an effect than what was once populary believed. As your posts demonstrate, consumption of dietary cholesterol has a diminishing effect at a rate I would consider negligible.

>> No.12940045

>>12939874
Humans are omnivores. :)

>> No.12940505

>>12940045
Hi,.carnist! What blood is on your hands this fine day?

>> No.12942252

I'm a fat that eats lots of cheese and little red meat and I have good cholesterol levels. Probably just genetics though.