/ck/ - Food & Cooking

The parents should be charged with criminal neglect of a child, desu.

My siblings were both picky eaters and my parents did not accept that. I remember long nights where my brother would sit at the kitchen table alone for hours while everyone else went around doing their shit because you can't leave the table till you eat your vegetables, while my mom would come by and say "they would have tasted better hot."

He's not a picky eater now. Picky eaters are physical manifestations of their parents' laziness and inability to parent.

>>12869246
Says he only had blind spots in the middle of his vision and the condition is treatable if caught early. This sounds more like mental health and/or neglect issues though. He knew the diet was causing malnutrition and doctors were giving him supplements but he went years without actually taking them apparently.

>>12869253
He sounds like a total dumbass. Bet his parents weren't the crunchiest crisps in the bag either.

>>12869248
forcing a kid to eat veges is better than nothing i guess, but it can create a lifelong adversion to vegetables as some kind of chore.

I think the main problem is that most adults don't like or understand vegetables much either and treat them like an afterthought, serving bland overcooked mush with no care put into it on the side

like children don't dislike boiled frozen carrots and brocolli because they're fussy, they dislike it because it sucks. toss em in oil and salt and roast them. Or else your kids might grow up thinking vegetables suck not just that their parents suck at cooking.

>>12869248
I'm a picky eater and my parents parented me well enough to where I'm getting my MD... My parents tried everything. Starving me, force feeding me, beating me. They had to give up because they realized that I literally would just throw up on them or go a week without eating (my record is 2 weeks on basically just water and a pack of crackers I had stashed). My diet is still shit but I'm making slow progress and I really don't blame them.

>>12869261
I have an aversion to tomatoes because of this. My parents force fed me a tomato and I threw up all over them. I used to have ketchup on my burgers and fries but I cannot stand the look or smell of tomatoes even. In fact I feel nervous even eating around other people because I feel like I'm going to fail their expectations when it comes to food.

>>12869268
What Bourdain said is that kids are fussy but they generally get over themselves around 10 if you don't force them and make them put effort into re-inforcing their biases.

That the way to go is just to cook and eat nice interesting food around them and eventually they'll be interested.

>>12869280
Why the fuck would anybody listen to that failure of a human being's parenting advice?

>>12869284
It's good advice

>>12869280
What's that father of the year's advice on killing yourself and leaving your child fatherless?

>tfw mummy didn't baby led wean me

Reminds me of those bong women who only eat mcnuggets

>okay darling you don't have to eat anything but chips if you don't want to
how are people such failures as parents

>>12869289
sorry anon i didn't mean to trigger you by mentioning him. Do you think it's not good advice though? Forget about Bourdain

>>12869263
You are a physical manifestation of your parents' laziness and inability to parent.
Getting any college degree is 90% time investment and has more to do with your resources (place to stay/food to eat and other support during school) than it does with your intellect.

>>12869261
My mom was a great cook. We'd have garlic mashed potatoes, roasted brussels sprouts, dilled french-cut green beans, maple-glazed carrots, all kinds of good shit.
All kids realize they can, to some extent, use bad behavior as a Pavlov's bell to get their parents to give in to their demands. My parents wouldn't have that at the dinner table because we were poor, and my mom worked really hard to make nice meals for everyone every single night. Wasting food was not acceptable. Eat or don't, but not eating has its consequences.

My parents also beat us and were terrible people in general, but they didn't raise a bunch of crybaby retards. They had some things right even when most things were wrong.

>>12869248
Based

not nearly as bad as the op image for any regular people
some of the mentally disabled kids I know have horrendous diets
some of them are similar to the op image but luckily the kids will still usually eat other similar enough food like carrots which makes things easier on the parents
but they're generally vegetarian, most of them won't eat meat at all short of cut up hotdogs

one of them though, only eats crackers and other crunchy things, they do their best but he steals food and gorges himself on them
hes in his mid 20s and had most of his bowels removed 6 months ago because of blockages

I honestly didn't think these sorts of issues existed outside of the disabled care community but congrats Britain, you've failed me once again, you managed something even the americans haven't achieved and they've sued people for being fat
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49551337
how can someone with the mental capacity to actually provide an explanation so poorly educated that they make these decisions
and doctors so poor that over 3 years of visits they had not figured out he was vitamin deficient

I've got 3 kids between 4 and 10.

They were all baby led weaned meaning instead of sweet purees their first post milk experiences were brocolli florets, peas, carrot sticks, cauliflower cheese, cucumber and hummus etc

Later we made eating vegetables fun by calling spinach "hulk greens" and the likes. We also cook from scratch every night using a mix of.fresh and frozen ingredients.

All of them now eat and enjoy all vegetables. Sure, they'll eat a hotdog and chips at the fair or whatever but when we are in a restaurant they always choose the vegetable options because they enjoy them.

Can't imagine failing so much as a parent.

>>12869309
Where the fuck do you know a crew of retards from well enough to identify their home eating habits?

>>12869302
>All kids realize they can, to some extent, use bad behavior as a Pavlov's bell to get their parents to give in to their demands. My parents wouldn't have that at the dinner table because we were poor, and my mom worked really hard to make nice meals for everyone every single night. Wasting food was not acceptable. Eat or don't, but not eating has its consequences.

Ok, sure, but do you not see what i'm saying? If a kid says they don't like something and you don't make them eat it, later they'll probably give it another chance and like it. But if you make them fight endlessly about it and say over and over again 'i don't like this' because they're stubborn, then they might internalize that arbitrary preference in a lifelong way.
Or if you particuraly traumatise them over food they might have an unhealthy relationship with it in general.
It's definitely not worth getting walked over on discipline, but better yet is not to get yourself into zero sum stubborn games with children where you win or they win.

>>12869313
based and good parenting pilled

>>12869246
he didn't go blind from eating french fries and potato chips he wen't blind from not eating other shit like vitamin B and calcium. shit ass faggot nigger clickbait cocksucking anal spelunking homosexuals kys

>>12869246
Literally everyone in my immediate family besides my brother and I. Everything has to be "plain" or a "regular flavor." Ice cream can only be vanilla. Rice can only be white and made with nothing besides salt. No sauces besides ketchup on anything. Sandwiches/burgers can only be bread and meat, no vegetables or sauce. Any snacks bought have to be the "original" flavor or they have a meltdown. It's fucking retarded. I was visiting the other week for a little get together they were doing and they went off on me because I brought some shitty snack cakes that weren't the usual regular chocolate ones they get. Stupid ass aunt also threw a fucking tantrum in the middle of the supermarket once because they were out of the regular plain goldfish crackers, and she's 50 years old.

>>12869328
'living off' means 'only eating'

>>12869332
sometimes i think it might be quite fun just to be a massive piece of shit
for sure not worth using up our one life on it but if i had maybe a dozen lives, i'd give it a go
it seems kind of comfy desu

>>12869318
If a kid says they don't want to eat something despite never having tried it, and you don't make them eat/at least try it, you have failed egregiously as a parent. A parent's only job is to introduce a child to the truth in the world and develop good, healthy habits for them to use and depend on as they grow into themselves later on.

My parents wouldn't make you clean your plate, because overeating is trashy. But you had to at least eat some of your vegetables - can't just eat the meat/gravy whatever and throw away the rest claiming to be "full." My parents were pretty spot on in this regard. For instance, I ate almost everything, but never liked mushrooms, and they took that as a personal preference and just didn't serve me mushrooms. Meanwhile, my brother would cry and complain if his meat was "too wet" or if anything green touched the plate in any capacity.

The best bet is to not have kids if you're a shithead, but the second best bet is to set firm rules and hold your kids to them, despite the crying or whatever bullshit they pull. Discipline/learning you don't just get to do whatever you want, whenever you want is a priceless mindset to instill in a child. If your kids are stubborn, they learned it from you. Best way to deal with it is to out-stubborn them and teach them how to adapt and "go with the flow" for lack of a better term. If you raise kids that won't eat any vegetables, because they just prefer potatoes and chicken nuggets and you didn't want to go through the bother of "getting into zero sum stubborn games," you just produced a human being destined to live and die unhappy and unhealthy. It would have been more ethical to shoot the child first.

>>12869334
no shit you fucking retard, he didn't go blind from living off chips and fries he went blind because he didn't eat anything with vitamins. he could've been eating dicks and balls exclusively and still had to dictate his posts to a text-to-speech program like you because the reason he went blind was nutritional deficiency. saying he went blind from crisps and chips is just clickbait to get retards to go "WOAH I EAT CHIPS AND CRISPS FUCK LET ME SEE WHAT'S UP"

>>12869341
You're exactly the level of stupid it takes to power clickbait article agencies.
Kys dumbass

>>12869344
>hurr durr
yeah not surprised by this response after you surely realized how fucking stupid you were to reply to my post with some obvious bullshit that had nothing to do with what i said

>>12869246
One of my sisters hates fish, eggs, can't eat dairy.

>>12869332
I’ve worked in a restaraunt and I dread families like this. Autism is definitely both genetic and environmental. This shit just breeds autism.

>>12869348
Not the same person.
Is it really so hard to believe that more than one person thinks you're stupid? Really, more than half of people must think as much.

>>12869340
>>12869340
you are quite close minded and obnoxious to not even accept that my position makes any sense whatsoever, or to be prepared to discuss what i'm saying with any generosity.

>you should just kill your kids rather than subject them to it

why don't you learn to be a friendly and open minded person so that your children might have a chance of being that also.
I don't think raising kids with discipline and making them eat vegetables is a bad idea, certainly better than allowing them to eat just tendies and potatoes. Just that it has potential drawbacks and that the real issue is if you don't put effort into making nice vegetables, which i respect your mother for doing. I don't think you even grasped what I said.

>>12869354
I think as much. :3 I mean it's pretty obvious from the context what the article means. Maybe the retard likes being spoon fed.

>>12869341
the headline doesn't say he went blind from crisps and chips though.
It says he went blind from eating -only- crisps and chips.
which is the same as saying he went blind from not eating anything with vitamins.

'living off' doesn't mean 'eating'
it means 'only eating'

>>12869248
My parents have tried the same method on me and it just didn't work. It just made me sick and upset for being forced to eat food I genuinely couldn't stand and it didn't make me eat it voluntary by any means. I've started to eat some of the foods later during my adulthood, but I still avoid some of the foods I didn't like as a kid. I still don't like mushrooms and I still don't eat most fish.

>>12869362
I don't have any kids and won't. There are at least a dozen reasons for this, but this is a food and cooking board.
I grasped what you said, but I think you're being dense. Even denser for claiming that I'm "close minded" for not agreeing with you. Yes, dummy, I understand what you've said, I just think you're wrong.
>people with kids in charge of not being self-obsessed in any year
I really hate people like you. No one cares about your kids and you don't deserve a medal.

>>12869376
This anon is a good example of what i'm trying to say. Forcing your kids to eat food can sometimes fuck them up.
And that there are other more cunning ways to get them to eat foods than force.

>>12869382
so wrong that i should kill my hypothetical kids rather than subject them to it?
so wrong about saying that forcing kids to eat foods can sometimes fuck them up despite someone posting itt about how that exact thing happened to him?

fuck off cunt

>>12869263
>I literally would just throw up
tfw I have that issue; even though I am not so picky I can't eat healthy and I do generally prefer decent meals, but there are a lot of tastes and textures that just fuck with my gag reflex and I can imagine some people being worse on that.

>>12869369
>getting into a semantics argument with a total internet stranger

>>12869399
>telling me not to have utterly inane and autistic arguments with complete retards on here
never.

>>12869386
It also made feel real awful due to me not really wanting to not like these foods. Like I'd love to enjoy some steamed and boiled vegetables/carrots, but I genuinely couldn't stand them when I was younger. Being punished for something I didn't understand was probably the worst part of growing up for me.

>>12869395
Anecdotal evidence is not proof of anything and I only said it would be more humane to kill a child rather than raise it to be emotionally dependent on tendies.
You're really so self-obsessed that you can't read anything anyone says against you and your parenting in plain fucking English. Just go post more pictures of your kids on Facebook, you absolute mouthbreather.

>>12869340
>If a kid says they don't want to eat something despite never having tried it, and you don't make them eat/at least try it, you have failed egregiously as a parent. A parent's only job is to introduce a child to the truth in the world and develop good, healthy habits for them to use and depend on as they grow into themselves later on.

Correct. A simple "it's ok not to like, bit it's not ok not to try" worked on my 3.

Some poor anons has terrible mothers.

>>12869411
so you think what i suggested is to raise a kid on tendies?
Or were you just rambling incoherently against some strawman, in reply to me?

I think you're probably just in general an authoritarian cocksucker and got triggered by the vague idea of there being a better way to get someone to do something than to force them.

I don't know what makes you think I have kids either, or that your ideas about parenting make sense despite your parents failing with you and you not wanting kids for 'reasons'.

children hate vegetables because of fibrous string (examples is celery)

fibrous string is the worst thing about eating vegetables

>>12869416
The issue is that liking food is not just an issue of taste. If you don't like the smell/look of something and don't want to eat it, then someone forcing you to eat it without you voluntarily doing so won't just change the strong biases and you're more likely to make someone just create a strong negative connotation with said thing, rather than to form them on their own naturally later on.

It's at least my experience. It might be different for others, but for me every experience like this was just a disaster.

>>12869427
Thank you anon.

And it's not like this means you should let your kids always refuse kids or never discipline them. Just that it's an idea worth bearing in mind. And that forcing them to eat something -can- -sometimes- be bad.

And my main point that the most important thing is cooking well and making vegetables nice, rather than considering kids fussy because they don't like overcooked frozen boiled veges, which just objectively does suck.

>>12869246
i have a female friend in her 20s---
she does not eat any veggies.
zero.
it was so bad she would spend like 10-20mins picking peas and spring onion garnishing out of her fried rice.
it does show on her skin, she doesnt have pimples or outbreaks but the colour isnt good.

recently she has been improving because her bf is forcing her to eat milder tasting veggies (and slathered with sauce)

>>12869427
Either Mummy didn't love you enough to try to give you healthy foods or Daddy never came back from the green grocers.

One of these made you a tastlette. Grow up.

>>12869438
god you're dense

>>12869438
I've eaten plenty of home-made meals made by my mom, it was pretty much my whole diet as at certain points of my life I didn't even visit the school cafeteria that much, made with vegetables and I like most of them. Honestly vegetables and greeners are some of my favourite food items. Tomatoes, pickles, onion, garlic, peas, carrots, peppers just to list a few. I just didn't like all the food I was given and being forced to eat/taste them didn't change my opinion of them.

Also it was mostly my father that forced me to eat food I didn't like.

>>12869246
Not surprised by this. You see malnourished looking scum everywhere in our shithole.

>>12869421
You're having trouble reading for information and yet you're accusing others of not understanding. Do people frequently tell you you're confused? Do you think the problem is everyone else, or you?

I'm physically infertile due to invasive endometriosis, a poorly understood, heritable condition, and will never be able to naturally conceive - and if I could, through fertility treatments and IVF, I would not want to risk passing on such a terrible disease to a child to struggle with as I have. It is extremely painful. I also don't want to adopt someone else's undesirable rotten crotchfruit because shitheadism is genetic.

Despite disliking my parents, I can pick out the places where they succeeded. My thinking is not so black-and-white as yours.
However unfortunate it might be, growing accustomed to doing as you're told by those in positions of authority will be of great help to any person. Doing what is best for your physical and mental health is not always pleasant but always desirable. On the other hand, growing accustomed into thinking you can just bitch and bully into getting your way will get you nowhere in life but fired from work and/or shot by police. You know, whatever you want for your hypothetical kids.

>>12869261
this is really true. regular old carrots sliced and sauted with butter and salt is delicious. Im lucky I just got used to shitty cooking and canned food as a kid and eating vegetables never was a problem. I see kids that only eat fries and tendies their entire lives, their parents never even attempted to cook fresh vegetables or fresh anything to see if they would like it. I have a 15 year old cousin that is freaky eaters level with french fries. He is a copy of the french fry guy on that show, in fact, Ive never seen him eat anything except fries and candy in my life, and now hes old enough for a learners permit. its profoundly depressing because his growth has likely been hindered so badly, health is fucked, and now has a literal mental problem being afraid to eat different foods. Grade A parenting.

>>12869261
Absolutely this. My mom would put vegetables into really good soups when I was a kid. When I went to a mate's house where the veggies really were just was boiled bland brocoli and shit that's the first time I didn't want to eat them. I still nut when I get a big bowl of spinach, radishes, and eggplant if it's in a tart soup. Absolute comfort food.

>>12869246
This is why I am in favour of compulsory military service. (I spent 2 years in the army for my country)

any hangups about food (fussy eating), any OCD about germs, any antisocial autism, any beta concerns about modesty and body--it all goes away when you have no choice and get forced to MAN UP.

>>12869476
are you korean?

>>12869456
>On the other hand, growing accustomed into thinking you can just bitch and bully into getting your way will get you nowhere in life but fired from work and/or shot by police.
>>12869318
>It's definitely not worth getting walked over on discipline

>>12869456
>My thinking is not so black-and-white as yours.
>>12869362
>I don't think raising kids with discipline and making them eat vegetables is a bad idea

>>12869456
>You're having trouble reading for information

>>12869467
>>12869466
hmm yeah i'll add the other thing i plan to do with my kids is get them involved with the food they eat, so have them work in the garden growing stuff and give them jobs in the kitchen, take em fishing and hunting etc
so they know about food more than just what i'm giving them and feel personally invested in it

>>12869510
jesus christ calm down.
>im going to WIN this e-argument goddammit!

>>12869523
maybe try actually reading what other people say and not just contradicting it blindly like some fucking asshole next time

then you might be having a friendly discussion and not a pissing contest.

>>12869317
I had started to write a lengthy descriptive blog post but decided it was a bit too personal, and would easily derail the thread
i've talked about it on 4chan before just it's hard, long and complicated, maybe some other time

but basically, day programs for a family member
when you're either a family member or a long term volunteer there is a whole other world that most people don't know about
a world that is very different, and difficult.
it's not so bad when you're dealing with just one or two individuals needs but if you're having to take into account a dozen or more different ones, christ.
these are kids that are over 18, and will never be adults.
many of them aren't far past the toddler stage, though a few of the more helpful ones could be considered around second grade.
and don't even get me started on what their teen years were like, a 6'4" toddler throwing a tantrum can do more than destroy drywall
with all the repetitive movements they do they're stronger than most gym rats
so when you have to take into account all of their special little needs and problems and who will will cause issues with who over whats whos when they try to attempt this or that because they want this which they have but they dont have and this is theirs but that isnt but their whole damn life outside these programs is based around placating them
it can get a bit complicated

luckily they're still easier to deal with than those LGBT folks since their needs stay the same day to day

>>12869488
no, singaporean

koreans get some leeway when it comes to their military service, they can serve their 2 years(?) in a military related industry. Here you have to serve directly in military (army, airforce, navy) or civil service (police, coastguard, firemen) upon the age of 18, but you can delay it if you have studies. If you refuse to serve or if you are a jenovah's witness (refusal to bear arms) you will get sent to army prison for the 2 years.

after 2 years you have to do refresher courses every year for the next 10-15 years (1-4 weeks every year)
if you choose to make it your career, your pay gets bumped up massively and you receive a lump sum of 20k-30k, the state will even sponsor your university(college) fees. On top of that everyone gets free health and dental care while in the service, I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth extracted.

>>12869533
tl;dr

>>12869268
I feel you. My mom force fed me chicken soup when I was about six and I gagged a spoonful of it up all over me, her and the couch. I got slapped and yelled at and literally haven't been able to eat any type of soup since.

>>12869248
Your parents were retarded and just couldn't cook proper food

>>12869456
> [...] because shitheadism is genetic.
Your whole line of arguments depends on this statement to be false.
Also
>implying that you're a shit head.

>>12869261
This is absolutely correct. I was forced to eat disgusting microwaved vegetables every day as a kid, now I'm 33 and still can't do veggies.

>>12869964
This. Kids don't like vegetables because their idiot mother opened a can of corn and asparagus and microwaved it.

>>12870238
That's no excuse, though.
I grew up with shitty cooking but after I moved out and started cooking for myself I discovered that things I didn't like when they were done terribly were actually really good when done right.
If you're 33 and "can't do veggies" you have a mental problem. There are plenty of resources online that will show you how to cook them without a microwave oven and make them delicious. It's your own fault if you choose to not give it a shot and just blame your mother.

>>12869248
I used to be like that but now I’m so poor I’ll eat anything in the fridge

>>12869435
Sisters gf is like that. There is like 8-10 kinds of things she eats: cold cuts, fries, Wiener Schnitzel, meat soup without the veggies, chips, coke, sweets and stuff like that. Now she is 36, trying to conceive for 5 years, but cant coz she has polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), but cant be bothered to change her diet because its too hard.

>>12869313
u r the parent i want to be

>>12869332
vanilla ice cream is the only good flavor

>>12869532
sorry, i dont reply to retards

>>12869533
my gf has a brother who is low functioning autistic and i fear that if we get married, this is the lifestyle i will have to take up to take once the parents give up on him

i'm not scared of being a tard rangler but it does frighten me that he may become stronger than me and at that point, i think i would be scared to sleep in the same house as him. if i hit an unpredictable nerve, how the fuck do i stop him from breaking my neck? if he gets pissed at a video he is watching while im hitting the hay, how do protect myself from waking up with my chest caved in?

keeps me up some nights

Fun Fact: Padma Lakshmi actually has endometriosis and managed to have a kid. But then again, she was fucking rich dudes who could fix her problem.

>>12870496
bully him and taunt him at every opportunity. hide sedatives in his mountain dew and piss all over his fortnite gameboy

>>12870496
unironically put him in a retard group-home
as long as he gets a NEET-check, they will take him

>>12869246
This thread is garbage, this was obviously something besides the food causing this.

If I'm cooking for a group of people and someone is a picky eater I dont make anything special for them. They either grow up and eat what I cooked or they fuckin starve.

But if someone has a allergy I always try my best to make something they and everyone else will eat.

>>12869284
People who kill themselves understand life too well.

>>12869246
Do Europoors REALLY

>>12869313

My parents failed to be based like this in stage 2, they weren't nice about it and basically thought they could get me to do it through stress. The rest of the family would join in on it whenever there was a big holiday or something. So even when I did do it, I hated it and never did it on my own later on. It took me until I was 20 to slowly start adding foods I could eat one at a time.

Though turns out my parents had midwestern white people no seasoning syndrome, they also overcooked anything that wasn't my dad doing it on the grill, especially vegetables. The entire extended family is like this and I feel no regrets now that they now want my help to steam/boil/bake/grill vegetables properly because my way is better. I made a few family men become incapable of eating their wife's shittier version of broccoli/asparagus, they shoot me the occasional shitty look when it comes up.

If Chef Ramsay would twist off your head and shit down your neck for how badly you cook then you've got no business deciding who is a picky eater.

>>12869246

Faggot unironically deserved it. Glad he went blind.

>>12869261

Coconut aminoes or soi sauce goes a long way in making veggies edible.

>>12869246
Flyover subhumans will all be blind soon, and it's beautiful.

>>12869248
My parents would beat me if I didn't finish my broccoli.

>>12869280
Now that's advice to print out and hang on your wall

>>12869246
When I read the head line and what the kid ate I knew he was a brit.

>just force kids to eat lmao
Kids are fucking dumb, it doesn't work. It didn't work on me. My mom found the best thing to do was sneak different veggies and fruits into meal. She would give me ice cream if I put berries in it, she would make mashed potatoes with spinach in it and call it grinch potatoes. It's about making it fun and cooking the food right. If you serve a kid boiled shit tier veggies they won't eat them but fry them up and hide them with other foods and you can slowly build that flavor profile.

>>12870496
it's really hard to give advice on the topic
there really is no easy simple answer
the most effective thing is to spend a very significant portion of your life placating them
and thats not just about giving into demands some are barely able to communicate across to you
medications of different types make a huge difference but they can also make things worse if they cause them to feel sick
a lot of people think group homes are the answer, and sure they are if you don't give a shit and just want rid of them
for us, group homes are not even an option, we know the sort of abuse that happens in them
take a look at job ads for 'group home worker' and you'll notice how many of them don't list qualifications
a large amount of people that end up working in group homes are people took 'police foundations' programs
but for one reason or another ended up not becoming a cop, and now take out their own lack of ability on the people they're supposed to be helping
even if they're not physically abused, theres been cases locally where i've tracked down these people personally after they were fired for doing things things to these kids
while this might sound funny its terrible
>training them to 'do tricks' like eating cheetos off the floor without using their hands
there are lots of people who become dsw's for the right reasons, most with a relatively mildly disabled cousin or sibling, but there are more that didn't know what they were getting into and just saw there were jobs with big checks
the individual dsw's make a bigger difference than any medication can, for better or for worse.
we had issues with one when they were still in school, who would talk about him in third person infront of him as if he wasn't there, like you would talk about a dog or something
people think these kids are all just stupid, but they know their own damn name, girl they know you're talking shit about them
this was one of his 2 dsws for 3 years, during the height of puberty.

character limit

>>12869932
lol I laughed, sorry man.

>>12869476

If you really don’t think that forcing people into what they see as a traumatizing experience will lead to long term problems

Well you’re a fucking retard

>>12870496
we had issues at home every day they had spent anywhere near this bitch, but the school wouldn't get rid of her because
>she doubled down and had more qualifications on paper than any other dsw there because she just wanted more money
>the school legally needed her because of these qualifications
the system barely works with regular kids little less disabled ones

to get back on your question though, chances are, at some point, you will have someone on your hands who is very angry who you can't simply hit back
while your girlfriend could be understanding (though unlikely) these kids are far more fickle than you'd think, and because of their limited lifestyle, will remember these things for as long as they live
it will take them years to get over that one time you showed them what it was like when they hit you
my best advice as far as self defense because of this is blocking and grappling, these kids are all poor fighters, they strike and run away.
a very small person can take control of a large person if they manage to grab their thumb and twist their arm in a specific way
not to break it or anything of course, just to where they know you're the one in control, it's similar to dog training in a way as bad as it sounds.
they just need to see that you're the boss and may will continue to challenge you for your position as the pack leader instinctively since you're both males.
instincts without cognition is a scary thing

but this of course doesn't prevent 'sneak attacks' those can only really be prevented by making their life so enjoyable that they never have an issue

so realistically, there is no way from having your neck broken from a surprise attack, by continuing a relationship with this girl you're moving into downtown detroit.

>>12869340

>>12869416

What do you do if a kid just doesnt eat then? I gag whenever i get exposed to stuff like that. I cant help it, its not a figure of speech. I genuinely almost throw up if its not junk food or something like pizza.

When my mom exposed me to food and i had that reaction as a kid she told me to at least try it. I didnt want to. She then said im going to sit there until i do. So i did. I sat at the dinner table in front of cold food for 6 hours doing no activity whatsoever.

She then tried to make me eat the next day. I refused because it was gross. So i went a day without eating sitting at the dinner table. And then another day. Etc.

She had no idea what to do as i was genuinely just starving. The doctor at the time was incredulous and said no kid is just gonna not eat saying eventually ill get hungry and desperate enough to eat.

But i never did. Eventually i passed out at school. My mom was freaked.

And so my diet which i still have to this day began:
Supplements, puree,smoothie, protein shakes, protein bars. And then random snacks when i felt peckish.

What would you have done? And how do i fix myself now that im 25? Im still grossed out by all food.

>>12871592
I was similar to you and even to this day I hate most western versions of veggies. What I did was slowly ease myself in. First find some fruits and veggies you actually can tolerate and if there's zero you like next time you get a burger try getting a plain burger with lettuce and do that for a bit. When you get a pizza try having at least some peppers on it. Just fit in foods you dont normally eat here and there. Once you get comfortable with lettuce, spinach, onion, peppers etc (you dont have to like all of these but keep trying) then you should start trying some Asian food. Start with the easy asian dishes, go for simple stuff like a korean BBQ because it's not to far but it'll have a different flavor profile and you'll be tricking yourself into trying new foods. Then you can start trying some noodle dishes like Pad Thai, this was a dish for me that really helped me enjoy newer ethnic food.

>>12871609
Oh and another good one for me was indian food. Indian curries generally are just meat in a thicker sauce you can mix with rice and breads. You don't even know what the fuck is in a curry 90% of the time because it's literally just a huge blend of spices and yogurt or coconut or whatever with chunks of meat so you can easily expand your pallet while still kind of being picky and only wanting meat and bread.

>>12869246
I basically live off microwave pizza and potato chips, I've hated the texture of veggies since I was 7 after I was forced to eat them by my grandmother. I'm in my early 20's now and know I should change my diet to be healthy but I get a gag reflex eating stuff like peas and carrots. The only veggie I can really stomach is lettuce and spinach

>>12871609
I dont even eat burgers.the only exposure im getting is pizza toppings.

I still cant stand meat though. Ive expanded into raw fruit slowly.

>>12871632
Just do it piece by piece. Find a food you look and find out what veggies work with it. If you're like me I realized quickly I didn't have veggies I just hated your average western diet where you ate like fucking garbage with horribly cooked veggies. Asians know how to cook some veggies into shit. Give ramen a shot some time if you don't mind something more like a soup. If you like ice cream you can throw raw fruit in it too.

>>12871627
eat lots of lettuce and spinach then. if you're okay with eating stuff like omelettes, i suggest putting spinach in that. then introduce peas/peppers/onions in small amounts to make a savoury omelette. even if you have to put hot sauce or something on top to get it down, it's prob easier than just eating peas by themselves because the texture's a bit more hidden

>>12869246
They come in to the restaurant I work at all the time. Ordering burgers with nothing on them but Kraft American cheese and ketchup. Dipping their fries in Duke’s mayo. It’s downright bizzare. I don’t know how anyone survives on such bland fare when they live in a nation that has an abundance of good food.

>>12871638
I agree. Apparently my mom would just cook the shit out of meat making it so dry and tasteless that you needed to be drinking water while chewing just to swallow. Thats not a joke.

How is a kid supposed get healthy eating habits if their parents cant cook

>>12871651
yup. I guess the best a kid could do is steer them to buy a few cookbooks. although a lot of really awful cooks are arrogant about their food, in which case you're basically fucked

>>12871651
>How is a kid supposed get healthy eating habits if their parents cant cook
Exactly and when they go to school and get the shit they serve at school it tastes bad. The thing is people don't realize shitty chicken nuggets taste better than shitty boiled broccoli. Make some good fucking food for your fucking kid and get them to try it or hide the veggies in other foods (onions in hamburger, spinach in potatoes, mixed veg in burrito, savory omelettes or crepes, veggies and noodles/rice, stuffed chicken, mac and cheese with green onions or peppers)

>>12869302
You weren't poor if you were having those sides and your mom had time to make that kind of dinner

>>12871672
vegetables are dirt cheap and easy to prepare, ameretard

>>12869313
True, however the downside is now my 4 and 6 year old eat with two hands shoving food in their faces like cavemen

>>12871804
if hes poor his mother would need to work more hours which wouldnt allow her time to cook full meals dipshit

>why yes I spent the last decade commiting suicide via nutritional deficiencies, what's it to ya?

>>12871126
should have eaten your broccoli

>>12869248
My parents tried to do this, but I was far too autistic. I would starve myself constantly, I didn't care about what happened to my body. The autism allowed me to not "feel" my body most of the time. You can't brute force a retard to stop being retarded.

And yes, I eat my vegetables today.

My sister-in-law is 28 and refuses to eat seafood, red meat, and ANYTHING foreign. She's also allergic to nuts, dairy, and wheat. So basically she eats like 5 things.

>>12869246
what a trip I literally just opened /ck/ to post a thread about this/ lmfao

Went to college with a guy who only ate french fries, chicken tenders, burgers, hot dogs, pizza, etc. Basically anything you could find on a kid's menu.

>>12869341
>LET ME SEE WHAT'S UP
Not anymore.

>>12869476
Haha, I was OCD about germs. I got over that when the guy next to me started throwing up blowed and passed out next to me.

>>12869246
>english
The queen reads all this shit as a bitter old slag. Love Yorktown douchebag.

>>12872415
Even when were going down the shitter we're still the greatest country on Earth

>>12869246
Couple months ago my boomer uncle from Australia came over. This crusty faggot is the pickiest fucking eater I've ever seen. Literally all he would eat was burgers or fish and chips, all unseasoned and completely plain. This fat prick was so fucking picky that he wasn't even adventurous enough to fucking try Chick-Fil-A. By blood is boiling just thinking about him.

>>12872415
fixed

>>12872473
Maybe he just doesn't hate gay people?

>>12872497
My point was more that he was so fussy that he was too scared to try fast food of all things. Although he is a boomer so he probably does hate gay people tbqh

>>12869248
Don't do this, it can just manifest as various mental and eating disorders later.

The problem with picky eaters is allowing them frequent access to the junk foods they constantly request. Just offer plenty nutritious foods choices and kids will eat eventually.

>>12872516
Untrue. See
>>12871592

>>12872459
>>12872493
Not trolling or fishing for (you)s. I hope u gentlemen well. Btw we are the best Americans. Come check out George Washington glory hole cave. It's not near the giant statue of some shit.

Eurolards really eat like this?

>>12869246
How do you get to the point where your sensation of "ew, no carbs" overrides your instinct to be able to see and hear? The fact that he comes off of every diet they tried to put him on despite his deteriorating condition must mean he has some legitimate disorder/terrible brain wiring.

>>12871592
you arent a picky eater
you are mentally ill
if you were a picky eater you wouldnt be able to stand smoothies

ITT crybaby man children who hate their parents for feeding them balanced meals

>>12869246
Is there any proof that this kid is blind, or is he just pulling shit out of his ass so he can have his 15 minutes of fame?

>>12871866
You can pan sear/fry chicken and broccoli/green beans/spinach and toast some sliced bread all in 15 minutes. A little longer if you're making rice. No one works so much that they can't get some chicken and greens into the skillet. A lot of poor people with limited time also just bake whatever meat or fish and heat up canned vegetables and beans anyway, which takes even less effort.

>>12872943
How?

>>12873003
There's plenty proof you're retarded but no fake for you

>>12873328
>You're retarded but no fake for you
Stay in school, kid.

>>12871592
This is a legitimate mental illness. I would've taken you to a psychiatrist after not eating to the point of fainting. Have you seen one yet?

I used to be a picky eater. I wonder what my parents could've done to convince me to eat more stuff when I was super young. I matured out of it on my own, I just started buying and tasting stuff on my own volition, without anybody pressuring me into it.

>>12871555
>WAAHH IM TRAUMATISED BECAUSE I WAS FORCED TO EAT ICKY FOOD

man

up

>>12871555
>WAAHH IM TRAUMATISED BECAUSE I WAS FORCED TO EAT ICKY FOOD

man

up

kids in africa are starving to death and others in cambodia are getting their feet blown off from 50 year old landmines
crying about having to eat a piece of brocolli or something is such a 1st world problem

What in the fuck is a crisp

>>12873997
Pringles.

>>12873994
that anon is a faggot but
>ayo ur problems aren't good enough because niggers in nigger countries have it worse
LOL

>>12874103
> ur problems aren't good enough
yes thats right
crying about having to eat veggies is not a real problem

>>12869248
The only thing i'm incapable of eating is fish due to a childhood trauma

>>12869248
To this day, my 56 year old mother can't eat canned chili because her parents tried this.

>>12869476
>all of your issues can just be solved by forcing you to do things that can lead to further trauma and mental instability
k boomer faggot
im not super picky at all, but your argument is retarded. imagine someone telling you that they have eating issues and the first fucking thing you recommend for them is to sign up for the armed forces. what the fuck is wrong with you? braindead moron. go shill for israel elsewhere

>>12871592
legit mental case
go see a psychiatrist

>>12869313
based
godspeed anon parent

Can't you survive perfectly fine on an all potato diet?

>>12874226
You can for quite a long time, but indefinitely? No, of course not.

only women and manchildren have "eating issues"

>>12869248
Using force is a bad and stupid idea.

>>12874230
What diet lets you survive indefinitely?

>>12874226
Tbqh I bet the real issue was getting too much of a single vitamin from this diet

>>12874856
Any diet that has liver in it.

>>12874934
>eat only liver
>nails teeth and hair fall out and I die

>>12869246
>this is the superior yuropeen diet

>>12874956
>Europe exists for thousands of years without anybody going blind from diet.
>import American tuber
>a few hundred years later; first ever case

>>12874961
They're called French fries ya dingus. They come from France.

>>12869246
>Know any fussy eaters?
No but I'm a pussy eater lmao

>>12871214
>Hang on your wall

Cheeky

>>12869332
Holy shit is that much blandness even legal?

>>12874856

All beef with some liver once or twice a week.

>>12874139
>t. deep-seated pathological fear of vagina

>>12869246
Probably had a pretty bad eating disorder

>>12869248
no one can force a 17 year old to eat anything

>>12869263
ok

>>12874163
oh no, not canned chili. fuck off, dude

>>12869248
>if you're a shitty cook just abuse your children until they eat and blame them instead of yourself

Ah, the triest and tested boomer parenting method. Don't have kids, dude.

>>12869248
I dont think this is effective, it just makes your kid mad at you. My dads rule was "You have to try a bite, then if you dont like it you dont have to eat it, but you have to have at least a bite."
There were plenty of things I thought looked yucky as a kid but they turned out to be great. I was downing raw oysters at 12. As an adult now the only food I dont like is peas.

I like most foods. Starvation would do that for you. Well, except natto. Fuck natto.

>>12869537
>tfw dropped out of poly and make 2k usd/month
jealous asf anon

>>12869376
>doesn't like mushrooms and most fish
are you me? let me guess, you will eat tuna, snapper e.c.t.

>>12869261
no, this never fucking happens, people with vegetable phobias are literally mentally ill, normal people just frown a little then start to eat them as adults because they know it's good for you. and they start eating even more when they get kids.

>>12870849
We got cases of scurvy in France not that long ago. The whole "feefees before thinking" is starting to power up natural selection again.

>>12869246
>Be me
>Just starting freshman year of college
>Decide to cook occasionally for roommates to facilitate friendship
>Make a meal of lambchops, italian mixed salad, and orange-topped panacotta
>The one available roommate eats the lambchop and refuses everything else
>Pressure him into trying at least one bite of the salad using the price of the lamb as leverage
>He literally fucking gags as he bites down on it
>Find out that the only leafy green he likes is spinach because he can't stand crunch

Every time after that, I couldn't help but feel like i got the worst of the roommate lottery as far as taste

>>12869537
>if you are a jenovah's witness (refusal to bear arms) you will get sent to army prison for the 2 years.
Damn when did Singapore get so based

>>12869313
well you did so better to just face it

>>12869246
retard wasnt about tendies? wut is this.

>>12869341
t. Potato Industry shill McShamus

>>12871592
First, rule out allergies and food sensitivities with a doctor. I couldn't eat a lot of italian food because I was sensitive to oregano until my mid-20s. Now I'm sensitive to bell peppers and tomatoes which is much worse imo. But it literally felt scratchy and I hated the texture of tomato sauce.

Buy food. Eat food. Throw up. If it's truly related to the texture you'll get over it. I'm anemic and get dizzy sometimes, and absolutely have fainted in public. This doesn't mean you are starving, just hungry. If you deal with it and treat your body like a child, you will eat the things and train your body to recognize it as not harmful. Just eat your shit. and reject it. Communicate to yourself that these are your nutrients, there aren't any other options, and it can throw a bitch fit or choke it down.

Eventually you will keep more and more down. It will get easier once you truly internalize the food you eat will not kill you. You will be able to eat more without wasting calories crying and sputtering and vomiting. Your body will react naturally after a time.

Source: dealt with this on my own.

>>12872415
pic related is a sheep who shouldn't be allowed to vote. If any logical thought is derailed into REEEing at the slightest hint of "libtard euro soicuck", you've effectively proven to have the IQ of a newborn who can't comprehend where the ball is once it's out of view. You're the guys in idiocracy calling reading and wiping their ass faggy. Take the tampon out of your asshole and use it to quiet the autism noises, so the adults can speak.

>>12880889
>autistic wall of shit
no one cares what you think, faggot

>>12869248
>My siblings were both picky eaters and my parents did not accept that. I remember long nights where my brother would sit at the kitchen table alone for hours while everyone else went around doing their shit because you can't leave the table till you eat your vegetables, while my mom would come by and say "they would have tasted better hot."
No wonder why you're retarded. Been proven doing shit like that is dangerous to a child's mental development.

>>12878575
strong aversions to numerous common vegetables is extremely common