/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12741662
Unlike Amerilards, we dont need to shovel food in our mouths.

>>12741662
I'm american and I've always held my fork like that, albeit in my right hand

>>12741662
>British
>Continental Style
?

>>12741686
Island style

>>12741662
fun fact - in Europe if somebody holds their fork in the "American way" it's associated with childishness and bad manners

>>12741662
Bongs are so thick that British Army recruits have to be shown how to take a shower.

>>12741695
this


>mfw I see adult who uses fork and knife with enclosed fists without index finger on the handle

>>12741695
Gee, I wonder what could have given them that idea? Amerilard tourists, perhaps?

>>12741695
that's retarded, and I'm not even American.

>>12741722

>>12741662
Forks are not shaped like a shovel, they're shaped like a fork. A fork is a pronged tool for poking. You wouldn't use a gardening fork as a scooper, you'd get a shovel for that task. The curve is meant to be ergonomic for your hand.

That said, I'm not entirely opposed. I'm American, and I prefer using the fork and knife method to skewer the meat and balance a little more on the top. But I will sometimes keep the fork in my left hand and invert it into a shovel, particularly if it's for something tricky like peas.

>>12741662
>British
>continental
retard.

>>12741695
fun fact - the American way was originally the continental way of eating, up until the late 19th Century. Americans brought European customs with them and preserved them, while the Europeans changed, thanks to world wars

>>12741764
Yes, but how can you eat rice with a forked turned downwards? Or peas, corn and so on...

>>12741768
it's called "continental style", but it's mostly used in Britain.

>>12741662
I have never seen anyone use a fork like that.
Looks stupid.

>>12741791
corn is served on the cob and peas are eaten with a knife, for everything else;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYov9H3PKzM

>>12741791
From best idea, to less-best:
>Use a knife to push the food on to the top of the fork. You will notice it's a much smaller bite of food.
>Change to a spoon and knife, particularly if it's a meatless dish, such as risotto. If it has some meat, like curry, then skewer the meat and balance the rice behind the meat on the top of the fork.
>Keep the fork in your left hand, turn it upside down into a scoop, and use your knife to push food into the scoop. This way your fork doesn't leave your left hand, and your knife stays in the right as well.

>>12741840
How the fuck do you eat peas with a knife? You just poke each individual pea onto the tip of the knife and eat them one at a time or what?

>>12741840
>peas are eaten with a knife


Wtf!?
No you eat peas with a fork.

>>12741840
Corn is not always served on the cob. And for me, if I am served corn on the cob, I am not going to use my hands. I would use a knife and slice the corn off the cob, and then either put it on top of the fork, or use a spoon.

>>12741662

My now near 90 year old grandma always eats for down and puts the food on on the back of the fork. Was just how she was taught in posh etiquette lessons when she was young in school

>>12741855
>>12741856
>americans

>>12741854
FUCK OFF MANNERSKEKS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>12741662
Oi m8, that's hate speech!

>>12741662
This trick will blow your mind. You wouldn't believe it but you can actually twirl the fork around just with a flip of your fingers depending whether you want to go into 'Shovel' or 'Poke' mode. Try it for yourself! Yeah I know, I'm a fucking genius.

>>12741840
>corn is served on the cob
who the hell serves corn on the cob on a formal dinner?

>>12741662
wtf is etiquette?

i mean really, who made these rules up?
right, long dead British nobles

>>12741865
That's retarded

>>12741773
Forks weren't even in widespread use in the US until the last part of the 19th century.

>>12741773
So Europe got more refined while America stagnated

>>12741866
It's not about manners, it's about practicality. I'm American. I was taught the same stupid manners as you, and I hate them.

>put the knife on the right of the plate, the fork on the left
But why? It's because you're SUPPOSED to always keep your knife in the right, fork on the left. The American method (which is actually the 18th Century European method) is superfulous. It makes no sense to constantly put your knife down and switch your fork over. There's 3 big benefits to eating this way
>No more clanking silverware while you eat. It's quieter, especially if your party eats the same way.
>You can actually complete your meal faster, because you're not wasting time with hand-switching
>PLUS you're taking smaller bites, which is better for digestion.

I'll also point out that if you watch American TV and movies, you'll notice the characters almost always eat European style. Apparently Americans prefer looking at people eating that way, even if they don't do it themselves.

I'm not telling you to try it for manners. I'm telling you it's just sensible. You wouldn't type with your left hand on the right side of the keyboard, and your right hand on the left side, would you?

>>12741902
I literally dont think about how i'm holding silverware at all

>>12741895
Not exactly. The handswitching method was considered upper class in Europe.

>>12741908
If that's the case, then you wouldn't use your fork in the right hand. I'm dual-wielding eating utensils, while you're doing one thing at a time.

>>12741886
Totally false. What makes you say that?

>>12741662
That's to give downward pressure on your food to make it easier to cut. The picture is just pretentious nonsense.

>>12741665
But unlike Americhads you bongfats actually need a license for that assault fork m8.

>>12741662
>British
>continental

>>12741840
I want to throw a hamburger at her.

>not using the based and redpilled two-handed fork

>>12741858
Ugh.

>>12741662
This whole thread is shit, everyone knows sharp objects are verboten on Knifecrime Island, what the fuck would they know about cutlery?

>>12741918
OK, mid-19th century, so 20 years off. Prior to that lards were shoveling it in with their hands like poos, lol! No wonder a large portion of the world considers americants barbarians.

>By the 1850s, forks were well established in the United States, where they have been used ever since.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/a-history-of-western-eating-utensils-from-the-scandalous-fork-to-the-incredible-spork-64593179/

>>12742335
yeah, haha, i'll bet they hate that they haven't had over 200 mass shootings this year

>all you retards arguing over how to hold a fucking fork
never in my life has someone said "anon you are holding that wrong!" nobody fucking cares how ya hold it.

>>12742673
A small price to pay for true freedom.

>>12742673
Less violent crime per capita than London.

>>12742680
maybe no one says something to you, but your manners say a lot to them

>>12742673
Enjoy your exploding sidewalk phenomena you retarded bongistinian.

>>12741662
Burger here, I cut that way. Everyone is always confused and asks me if I'm left handed. Cutting with your dominant hand makes way more sense to me.

why cant i use the continental style with the fork in the right hand? what about assholes who grind their teeth on the tines?

>>12741791
Flip it upwards retard

Dear diary,

Today on 4chan I learned that americans use their utensils like children ie. cutting their meat then putting down the knife and using the fork with right hand.
Jesus fucking christ how ridiculous.

>>12742752
Source? Oh, /pol/'s ass, lol!

>>12742802

>>12742769
that's how I do it, it's just more efficient.

>>12741662
Wait... did i understand this correctly? Do americans really only us one utensil at a time? Like when they want to cut their steak they put the fork down and pick up their knife instead? Wtf.

That feel when bourgeois grandparents that frequent nobility so table etiquette was drilled since child and can't let go of it. I don't judge others unless they chew with their mouth open though.

That feel when ambidextrous so it doesn't matter which hand holds what, I don't switch though.

>>12741665
Merican here, lol

>>12741963
You tell that faggot what's up

>>12742839
we're supposed to cut the steak with the knife in the right hand and fork in the left, then set the knife down and swap the fork to the right hand

>>12742817
>the telegraph
>literally no article or statistics to back up the headline
Cope harder you slug sucker!

>>12743068
sweaty, you're being silly. just go dilate and have a glass of wine to relax.

>>12743106
>my only response is a non sequitor ad hominem
That confirms my post, thx tard.

>>12742783
>putting down the knife
? Just cut with your left hand

I havent eaten with a fork or knife since i was a child, how are you suppose to hold them? I have a wedding to go to next week.

>>12741662
You flip it when scooping. Let's see you stab something with the tines pointing upwards.

I'm told that Americans cut food using the fork in the left hand and the knife in the right. Then they put the knife down, switch the fork to the right hand and use it to eat the cut piece.

[1] Is this true?

[2] If so, why are you so retarded?

>>12742760
>exploding sidewalk
The military calls these IEDs, but IEDs have such a negative connotation when they explode domestically.

>>12743287
[1] it's not "true" because america is a massive country with lots of different cultures and none of us learn official dining etiquette.

[2] it's precisely the way you yurofaggots taught us to do it, so, you're retarded.

>Forks
lmao nigga just use chop sticks

>>12741662
>>12741665
I'm amerilard and I use continental style to avoid wasting time putting knife down and switching hands. It's objectively better for meat plus veg dishes although not so great for something like fried rice.

>>12743475
You have hands and teeth tard, why complecate things with fucking futlery.

Compare the fork and the spoon. If the fork were meant to be used as a shovel the angle of the handle vs the tines would be similar to a spoon, instead if you shovel food in with it your ham hocks end up in front of your face. However if used tines down the hand is below the face and fork is shaped perfectly for the forefinger to better control and direct force into the tines. It's shaped the same way as the awls I use on digs.

>>12743261
>cut with your left hand

>>12743489
When I'm in south India I don't.

meanwhile Asians think euro's are savages for stabbing their food at all

>Muh ettiquette
Literally no one cares how you use your silverware unless they're being a pompous asshole or you're actually making a mess with how you eat.

>B-but it's more efficient
Imagine trying to speedrun your meals. Is euro food actually such shit that they try to shave seconds off mealtime to avoid eating for any longer than they have to. Just relax and enjoy the food and the company of your friends/family/whatever.

>>12743475
why would you switch hands? just have the knife in one hand and the fork in the other. put food in mouth with the fork hand. why is it so complicated?

>>12744005
...isn't that what I just fucking said I did?

>>12741695
i'm pretty sure that's the case literally everywhere else apart from africa and america etc.

like the metric system and calling soccer, soccer.

>>12741662
That's because they need licenses for cutlery otherwise they might offend a muslim.

>>12744005
im not ambidextrous i cant use a fork with my left hand :(

>>12744208
but why do continental style when you can do it regularly with the left hand

>>12744467
British people used to call it soccer. Soccer was the preferred name for the sport by the upper class, and only poor people called it football. You can still find it called soccer by some rich people from Surrey.

>>12743711

If you have to cut food at all, then the chef hasn't finished preparing it.

>>12744514
What are you, a baby?

Oh, and what did your mom use to cut your food for you? Knife and fork?

>>12744467
>>12744508
I'm pretty sure that's it's short for "association football" and to differentiate it from NFL.

>>12744528

I eat with chopsticks. Did your doctor use a knife & fork to cut your penis tip?

>>12741662
Limp wrist
What else

>>12744569

>>12744569
Chopstick players is what sucky piano players are called since that's all they're capable of.

>>12743887
constantly switching utensils creates a lot of noise and clatter, and makes you look like a troglodyte.

>>12741865

>3~6 peas at a time

You may have all day, Francis, but burgerbros actually have shit to do. Y'know, like run the entire planet, for instance.

>>12744871
If you're fucking throwing them down or dropping them against the plate sure. If you take the extra half second to calmly set them on a napkin the noise is negligible. Also, you only switch utensils 2-3 times per minute, less if you're eating with other people and taking time in between bites to have a conversation. It's not like I'm juggling silverware throughout the meal.

>>12744892
look, you can do what you want, these are rules designed to help one impress important people. if all your meals consist of you stuffing your face with your friends and belching at the table, you keep right on going.

>>12744486
You mean left handed continental style?