/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12330916

Put down the fork Tumblr-dyke.

>>12330916
The Man is working hard all day to earn his living, burning many calories.
The Woman sits at her desk writing an article about male/female weight loss, as she sips her 1800 cal Starbucks beverage.

>>12331045
I lie in bed reading my books all day and lose weight. Then again I barely eat

>>12330916
such is the society we live in...

>>12330916
Women's weights are more prone to fluctuation due to hormonal changes, week to week measurements are pretty useless. You can take the average of a month, but acting like you're fat and defeated because you're retaining water isn't going to help with weight loss. Regardless, the men's side is obviously exaggerated, also important to weigh yourself in the morning after using the restroom to get more consistent measurements.

>>12331069

>>12330916
Well yeah it's a loss of -200 cals per day for the man at a TDEE of 2500 cals so of course he loses weight but women already are at a TDEE of like 1600 cals so there's very little they can do diet wise to lose weight

>>12331091
>TDEE
Fuck off /fit/ brainlet

>>12331091
A woman with a TDEE of 1,600 kcals is likely already pretty slim. Or very short.
Also, what do you mean there's very little they can do diet wise to lose weight? What if they ate... 1,400 kcals? Or 1,200 kcals? Also, average serving size of cream is not 200 kcals. In summation, everything you wrote is wrong.

>>12331052
as you get older your metabolism slows down
enjoy it while it lasts

>>12331148
>What if they ate... 1,400 kcals? Or 1,200 kcals?
That is an unhealthy amount of calories consumed and can actually lead to paradoxical weight gain. The point of my post was to state that men have a much easier time losing weight because their weight is already much higher than women and therefore cutting calories is much easier and safer. Also people grossly underestimate the amount of calories that go into the food they consume.

>>12331052
Sounds like you may be depressed my nigga

>>12331173
>>12331166
Both true

>>12331183
What's the plan then, you ever going to talk to someone about it?

>>12331168
But you just said this hypothetical girl has a TDEE of 1,600 kcals per day. If she is obese at that level of consumption, then 1,400/day would not be unhealthy.
>The point of my post was to state that men have a much easier time losing weight
Your post was wrong.

>>12331168
are you retarded ? it's all relative to your size, if your TDEE is 1600 than 1400 is not "unhealthy" it's almost exactly what your body actually needs.

it's always relative to how much your body needs, there is no such thing as "my body needs only X but that's not enough" if thats what your body needs, it's enough by definition.

>paradoxical weight gain
that doesn't mean anything
paradoxes can't exist in the real world, by their very nature. You are not a perpetual energy machine, just eat less.

>>12331222
People forget what a paradox actually is. It's not something that CAN'T be true by definition. It's something that APPEARS untrue by definition at first, but is in fact true.

How many calories should I eat to lose weight fat (2-4 pounds a week) without starving?

>>12330916
>man is losing 30 lbs a month by changing coffee creamer
Man needs to see a doctor.
>woman thinks 1 hr at the gym, a fad diet, and drinking wine should cause 10 lbs/lb weight change
If you're chugging whole boxes of wine and doing 1 hour of intense cardio maybe? And by by cut out carbs you mean cut out most of those calories and not just replace them with protein or fat? 10 lbs a week is a fucking lot you dumb bitch.

>>12331199
Ehhh

I do talk to my mom and dad
Theyre very supportive of me
But who isnt struggling. Im lucky in a lotta ways

>>12331166
No you're just less active

>>12331168
>That is an unhealthy amount of calories consumed
You can't say that without knowing the height and activity level of someone.

>and can actually lead to paradoxical weight gain.
Maybe if it's way below what someone should be eating and causes them to binge. Eating less won't cause you to gain weight.

>>12331261
Just eat a bit less than what you're eating now. And if that doesn't work, eat a bit less still. Can't really tell you how much you need without knowing your height and activity level and some other factors.

>>12330916
im legit confounded.
im a man, and I weighed 153lbs five years ago.
now I weigh 155lbs.
is this pretty good? should I be gaining weight as I get older? im 24 now.
how often do you put on pounds?

>>12331300
>be American
>don’t double in size every year
>ask if something’s wrong with you
OHHH SAY CAN YOU SEEEE

>>12331300
I'm confused by this, are you trying to get obese?

>>12331307
your comment literally made me give an audible "heh!" at my screen.
we really are a fucked people.

>>12331300
My 20s have been a sine wave between 140 and 200 lbs. When I am into lifting weights, I am heavy. Otherwise, I do not eat.

>>12330916
Maybe she should have stopped putting cream in her coffee.

>>12331315
no. its just that... people around me put on pounds as they get older, while I seem to remain the same.
this really just makes it sound worse for us americans.
>>12331319
this comforts me.

>>12331300
I weighed about 145 at 24(I'm 5'9) and year by year I gained more and more weight, slowly but surely. Now I am 26(almost 27) and weigh 180lbs. Be careful, you might start to gain tons of weight in the coming years.

>>12330916
Completely true. Men aren't built to be fat.

If you're a fat guy, it's because you're an alcoholic, or are depressed and deal with emotional issues by overeating. By rights you have double the muscle and half the fat of any woman at a comparable fitness level.

Is it really that hard to stop endlessly stuffing your face with food?

>>12331069
>using the restroom
u mean going poo poo hahaha

>>12331381
hahahaha
poop!
this is so funny, i need to take a picture with my phone to show my friends.

>>12331263
You sound nice, anon. What do you read?

Imagine being a worthless estrocuck

>>12331325
The low weight might be from the chemotherapy. Do you have cancer?

>>12331261
get myfitnesspal and eat 200 calories less than what they recommend, get good regular sleep, and also get in at least a solid 15 minutes of cardio erry day

I’m down almost 40lbs since December. You can make it bro

>>12331851
actually wait I just got a call from the doctor. I have ass AIDS. Apparently I have nine more seconds to live.

all hope is lost..

>>12331262
its a shopped up picture, calm down retarded incel

Every fucking time with these threads.
"Weight" does not mean "fat".

If you cut calories in a sedentary lifestyle with high glycemic load, yes, you will lose weight... weight that's mostly lost muscle and bone tissue (unless you're obese). You will look even dumpier than before.
TDEE is a nonsense way to diet unless you're obese. Not obese? Then count glycemic load instead of counting calories.

>>12331261
you'd find out if you were counting the calories in the first place

>>12331168
>Unhealthy
Mate I dont eat for a week straight and I'm fine.

>>12330930
based
fpbp

>>12331381
>>12331395
hahah poo poo

he said do poo poo first hahah

hahah

>>12331166
you have no idea how wrong you are, m'tranny

>>12331593
Hegel and the other philosophers that were inspired by his work

Limited myself to 1200 kcal per day, 30 minutes of cardio per day, weight training every other day yet I’ve only lost 30 lbs in the past 6 months.
300 lbs man btw, don’t know what I’m doing wrong.

>>12331168
>That is an unhealthy amount of calories consumed
"Unhealthy" is entirely dependent on the person's calorie expenditure.

A 5'2, 100 pound woman who is barely active may only need 1400 calories to maintain her weight.

A 6', 165 pound man who is highly active (aka me) might need more than 3,000 or 4,000 calories per day.

>and can actually lead to paradoxical weight gain
Weight is stored energy, and no matter how many times people tell you otherwise, humans cannot break the first law of thermodynamics.

>The point of my post was to state that men have a much easier time losing weight because their weight is already much higher than women and therefore cutting calories is much easier and safer.
If men do have an easier time losing weight, it's because they have much higher muscle mass on average (which consumes calories 24/7), not because they're heavier or any of that calorie stuff.

>Also people grossly underestimate the amount of calories that go into the food they consume.
This, however, is 100% true. People have no idea how much god damn energy is in that gigantic soda they just got from Wendy's, and almost all of that energy will turn into fat that will end up in some unsightly place on your body.

>>12332073
What kind of foods are you eating?

>>12331166
>be sedentary
>lose muscle mass through atrophy
>think you're the same weight when you're just fatter, when fat consumes 1/5th the calories of muscles to stay on
>eat like before, or worse
>get magically fat through some arcane process
Your metabolism slows down a wee bit as you age. Not by that much.

>>12332083
Insightful

I guess Im doing something right by constantly testing my physical capabilities. Wouldnt want to fall asleep and one day realize I cant pick up the thing or walk up the hill

>>12331246
This is actually a very important distinction and more people need to be aware of it. Same with "ironic".

>>12331307
fucking kek

>>12332089
You'll be right as long as you don't completely stop giving a shit. It is, as they say, "letting yourself go." Sounds like you're alright.

>>12332080
He's trolling or completely out of touch with the actual numbers

>>12332073
>300 pound man + 30 minutes of cardio
>only 1200 cal/day
>only losing ~5 lbs/month

You are dramatically underestimating how many calories you're consuming. It is simply not possible for a 300 pound male to nearly maintain that weight while only eating 1200 cal/day.

Don't feel bad, literally every single overweight person alive today underestimates how many calories they're consuming. You just have to account for that in your measurements.

>>12332118
Fuck you, not trolling. I’m riding a recumbent stationary bike on the lowest possible setting for my knees and doing 15 reps of curls and a few other exercises with a couple of 200 lbs dumbbells.
As for my diet, it’s whatever cheep crap I can afford. Today I had a microwave beef burrito, a banquet beef pot pie, a pack of cheese crackers, and a lot of water. Total kcal consumed per the nutritional info was a little over 900.
Today was not terribly to any other day in the past 6 months as far as my diet and exercise regimen goes.

>>12332149
You might have prediabetes. When hormones are dorked, the cico thing can be skewed by several hundred kcals. Excessive amounts of insulin can make your body extremely efficient at storing all your food calories as fat. Try a low carb version of your diet for a month and see if you lose weight more quickly. Also, no alcohol.

P.S. You're eating really shitty processed junk food based on white flour. Really unfavorable glycemic load for a 300 lb guy. Eat meat and vegetables.

>>12332187
Wouldn’t be surprised. Thanks for the info.

its much harder for men to diet, because men in addition to being thing ALSO need to be muscular
its incredibly difficult to cultivate mass while leaning out

takes very precise maths to do it

women need to just STOP EATING

>>12331069
So much THIS.

>>12332248
If you think all women have to do to lose weight is "stop eating", you're a moron. As a matter of fact, it's very important that women maintain a consistent diet (that doesn't mean overeating, it just means they need to eat on a regular schedule) if they want to lose weight. Because of women's constant hormone fluctuations, not maintaining a consistent eating pattern can cause their bodies to really fuck themselves up.

>>12330916
hogs and sows arent meant to be thin

>>12330916
I've lost weight while being sick, but the it still takes a major shift to lose 10 pounds. Unless you weigh 400+ pounds. Then simply cutting caloric intake to 1200 calories a day is enough to drop you 15 pounds in the first week. But after that you'll only lose 2-3 pounds a week without mercerize.

>>12332948
>mercerize.
what the fuck, autocorrect?

>>12330930
based

>>12330916
Women are supposed to have fat supplies while men are supposed to have muscle , it's just nature at work sweetie

enjoy your cute softness

>>12331069
When I dieted, I found weighing myself once per month to be best. It's really good for your mental health because you always see progress with big jumps, and it doesn't suffer from slight changes in the humidity or whether or not you took a piss in the last hour.

When you weigh yourself every day and the numbers don't move, it increases your chances to fail at your diet or lifestyle change because you get depressed about results not showing up immediately.

This is, of course, if you know you're being a good boy and not fucking around sneaking ice cream or shit. As long as you behave, you have no reason not to assume progress is being made.

>>12331829
Have sex.

>>12332962
Keeping a calendar above the scale with your weight for each day written on it is another alternative. So you can see the progress you made over time.

>>12331148
1,200 calories is normal for dieting men focused on weight loss alone and not muscle building. Nutrisystem, for example, uses 1,200 calorie plans with lots of vegetables and such (which are freebies) for men.

And 1/4cup of normal Coffee Mate is 105 calories. Or, at least, it was when I dieted. The sugar-free CoffeeMate is hardly any better (like, 5 calories per teaspoon) so it's not worth it.

>>12330916
Have women solved the energy crisis without even trying?

losing weight is extremely easy
don't eat any fat, and you will lose weight.
It is nearly impossible to gain weight if you don't eat fat. You can even eat all the sugar you want, I doubt it will make you fat, even though that's unhealthy.

>>12333031
Okay grandma, I will listen to your retarded advice!

>>12330930

fpbp

>>12331307
I needed that laugh.

>>12330916
Many yous to you.

>>12333013
You might be on to something.

Men don't put cream in their coffee.

>>12330916

Jesus fuck you people are dumb.

Just do OMAD, alternate day fasting or longer ones and lift weights. The fat fucking disappears into thin air.

>>12330930
Based
>>12330916
Sad how all they have to do to be pretty is eat less and it's still too hard for them lmao

>>12330916
It' s almost like men are more moving around throughout the day than stationary women.

>>12330916
>Cutting for summer
>Count my calories
>Make my dinners with only one side dish instead of two
>Reduced red meat to once a week
>Only snack with apples and carrots
>Skipping meals occationally
>"Wow anon, looking slim"
>"hahaha, yea, I'm trying to not eat sweets."
Why do I do this? Why do I just instinctively deceive? I've noticed other guys doing this too.

>>12333928
Men instinctively want to make others (especially females) think everything you do is easy and effortless. It makes you look confident and competent.

>>12332373
no, literally just stop getting 3 milkshakes from starbucks and chips at chipotle every single damn day
watch the weight fall right off

>>12333967
its easy to lose weight if you dont eat 23.5 hours of the day

>>12334427
What if you eat 4000 calories worth of food every day within that 30 minutes?

>>12334437
You'd shit most of it out undigested.

>>12330930
fpbp

>>12333556
What a shame

>>12334557
yeah poor fatass dog

>>12334479
I saw this guy on the street and tried to flag him down to say I thought he was cool, but he's a fucking dick.

>>12332073

There is no way. You are underestimating your calories in. There is no way you can maintain 300lbs on 1200 cals.

Even if you have a thyroid problem or whatever, you can't violate the laws of thermodynamics.

Are you 100% sure (As in you are cooking yourself and measuring what you are in taking and following serving size), or are you guesstimating?

>>12334419
can confirm. Only get 2 milkshakes now and guac instead of chips and am already down about 5 pounds since last month

>>12332149
>Total kcal consumed per the nutritional info was a little over 900.
Make sure the calories on the nutritional info are for the entire package of what you're eating, and not just half of a serving or something like that. They can be a little tricky like that sometimes, where it'll say it's 500 calories but there are two servings in the package so it's really 1000 calories.

>>12332149
>200 pound dumbbell
doubt it

>>12335383
Probably a typo for 20lb dumbbells. Those are a common size for men's weights.

>>12335421
How the fuck can anyone lift 20 pound dumbbells? They're so light, they barely even register.

>>12333548
Women are basically small animals, of the hamster/guinea pig sort. All they really care about is eating, pissing and fucking and they have to do these things constantly. They can't not do it, it's just their nature.

>>12335432
I used 20lb dumbbells when I first started lifting. I still use them. I switch to the lighter weights when I can't quite get the next rep on a heavier one. There's nothing wrong with having a variety of weights.

>>12335432
imagine trying to flex your weightlifting skills on an anonymous malaysian stir frying imageboard

>>12331300
Depends, how tall are you?