/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12225090
All told it’s about equal when you consider the time required, unless you are making like $250k a year. But you have way more control over ingredient quality and how healthy the meal is by preparing your own food

>>12225090
yeah damn it takes 3 min to cook a burger, guess I gotta go to mcdonalds lmao
shut up bitch

it's hard to save money on food if you're not a good cook, because that relies on being adaptable and not having to follow recipes, like picking what is cheapest/freshest in a shop and opening your fridge and making a nice meal with what you have.

otherwise you waste a lot and always need to buy new things to follow recipes.

but i like cooking and can honestly make a nice dinner in the time it takes to go out, buy food, wait, then come home

>>12225090
Literally anything you name I can make it tastier, healthier and for cheaper than buying it at a restaurant. If you can't you're a lazy tard that can't figure out cooking.

>>12225191
tandoori chicken
naan
pizza
ramen
pho

i doubt it lol

>>12225200
Tandoori chicken, pizza, and pho I have before. Naan wouldn't be too hard if I can find a cheap source of yogurt. Ramen is the hard one, it can be done but you'd have to make it in large quantities.

>time value of money
I don't get this. Anons claim that if they cook at home, it isn't as cheap as eating out because of the dollar/hour time they spend cooking. But you don't cook dinner in the middle of your shift. For most people if you're not cooking dinner it doesn't mean you're earning money, it means you're doing something else that you also don't get paid for. So why not spend that time cooking a nice meal?

>>12225235
>implying you have both a wood oven and a tandoor

>>12225090
>>12225097
>>12225101
>This is literally what poor people think
Anyone who has the slightest fiscal responsibility and tracks their finances knows that eating out, even fast food, is a complete money drain. I've cut back eating out to 2-3 times a month since the beginning of the year, and in the first quarter I've cut my food expenses over $200 compared to Q1 of 2018. This is why poor people are also fat and unhealthy. I know this is a bait thread but fuck this is a huge (pun intended) problem in america.

>>12225097
>All told it’s about equal when you consider the time required,
Why? Are you having to leave work halfway through your shift every day to go home and cook dinner for that evening?

>>12225260
Just cook tandoori chicken on a grill, it actually taste better.

>>12225090
If you had the skills and tools to build the car, you absolutely could.

I've put in the time to learn how to cook. I've got an ok little armory of utensils and cookware happening. I can make a solid meal for $1 per plate if I plan accordingly, and don't mind eating the same thing for a week.

I know people who have built their own vehicles from an engine, transmission, and basic skeleton of a chassis. For their custom vehicles, they didn't pay a terribly high price, even accounting for their time, but I'm sure the first few attempts were only worth it for the experience.

>time value of money
Just watch anime while cooking dumbass.

>I don't do laundry, I just buy new clothes every week. All told it's about equal all if you consider the time required.

>>12225273
kids under the age of 12 don't cook

>>12225279
You're free to consume whatever form of media your normalfag ass prefers.
The point is cooking doesn't mean sitting in a silent vacuum.

>>12225260
Those are memes. You don't need them.

>>12225191
This. Not sure what you faggots are talking about. Haven’t you ever had a kitchen to yourself? If you buy cheap ingredients you save loads of dosh.

>>12225281
that implies these people are capable of cooking without paying full attention so as not to remove a few fingers during cooking.

>>12225292
this just shows you have literally never had good indian or pizza because really high heat cooking you get in a proper pizza oven or a tandoor is incomparable and cannot be replicated at home

the same goes for stir fries in an industrial wok

>cook potage de navets at home
>takes 15ish minutes, 40ish total with prep work included
>costs about $3.30 for four big-ass servings
>can make it barefoot while in my skivvies

>go eat potage de navets at a french restaurant in town
>costs $15 for a single, small-as-fuck portion, not including tax and tip
>need to have shoes and clothes on to go get it

Yeah, nah.

>>12225279
Nigga, I've been for real cooking since I was like 6 years old. Younger than that and I was making vinaigrettes cuz mom asked me to.

I know this is just a bait thread, but there is kind of a point that the whole foodie revolution did get a hell of a lot of people more interested in cooking, it created a side-effect of people thinking every meal needs to be a gourmet, elaborate, ethnically authentic instagram feast for the senses and that dissuades some people from just cooking simple meals at home. Luckily the pendulum is starting to swing back a bit and people are realizing it's okay to roast some vegetables and a protein on a sheet pan for Wednesday night's dinner.

>>12225254
It's like saying I've spent weekends looking for a girlfriend, I may as well pay a hooker because I've wasted thousands according to my job worth.

>>12225485
But it's still not OK to say "a protein," you piece of filth.

you are just bad at life if you cant life on $5 per day of decent quality home cooked food

>>12225090
you can save money by cooking your own food if you cook for a family. if you're only feeding yourself cooking becomes pretty much as expensive as going out.

>>12225752
i think the worst problem for cooking alone is that the food lacks love when you're only feeding yourself. when you see others enjoy the food you made, you will enjoy it yourself too. even if the food is mediocre.

>>12225752
No it doesn't.

>>12225772
most of the cheap foods are made for families.

>>12225756
Personally, I cook for myself first, and anybody enjoying it is bonus. These kind of comments are like claiming you don't love yourself.

>>12225752
In the era of fridges and freezers?

>>12225200
Naan is really the only thing I wouldn't ever bother making at home. It's so damn cheap to buy from any ethnic bakery here and freshly made too.

>>12225090
You can goto a junkyard and get a car that's been wrecked for $125/ton. Add in the body parts that are wrecked and you've got a car new to you for cheaper than a brand new car.

>>12225752
Really? People who cook at home, cook bigger batches even if they're alone. I usually cook 3-4 servings. I eat 2 servings the first two days, one per day and i cook again something else, 3-4 servings again. I eat 1 serving of that. Next day i eat 1 serving of what i cooked previously, if anything left, it goes into the freezer. Next day i eat the 2nd serving of whatever was the second dish of the week and i cook again 3-4 servings of something else and so on. If i don't feel like cooking, i eat the leftovers from the freezer.

But even if you just cook one serving, in many cases it's still cheaper than in a restaurant e.g. steak.

You can definitely save a lot of money cooking but it would involve using mostly the oven and making huge batches of freezable food and you would have to be ok with eating the same thing every other day.
I like to cook because the food I make is better than the food they serve at a restaurant unless its a really expensive restaurant

>>12225254
You could spend that time developing better skills to try to get a promotion or land a better job

>>12225752
Bruh I cook one meal for dinner for the entire working week.

>>12225857
bruh bruh. Bruh, bruh. What the fuck is your point?

>>12225857

Well this is the problem. If you live by yourself and want to eat different meals every day then cooking is just as expensive as eating out every day. If you can plan your meals so you reuse the same ingredients then you can save money.

>>12225090
>not even going to bring up the time value of money into this argument
Good because the idea your retarded ass is too good to cook for yourself has to be one of the most conceited arguments Ive seen outside of /news/

>>12225090
Ragu Bolognese is like 30 minutes of an actual prep and cooking, then it’s doing it’s own thing on the fucking stove. No need to stare at the pot for two hours you lazy nigger.

>>12225279
I was left home alone starting at 11. I cook all be it badly for my self.

>>12225090
most foodplace sells foods at 6x price of its original price

>>12225856
So you're saying that you are devising your next business opportunity at the drive-in for McDonalds?
lmao anon come on

>>12225988
I just have better time nanagement skills than you, you wish you could fit as much anime and video games into a lifestyle as productive as mine

It's way cheaper to prepare your own food this isn't even a debate. It's probably that OP has no idea how to cook and that's about it.

>>12225996
Unless you're freezing tons of food, are ok eating the same meal for a week, or are eating exclusively for sustenance and not taste (ie beans and hotdogs or instant noodles) its debatable whether you're saving any money if you're cooking for one person. As a couple it starts to tip in the favor of cooking at home and once you have a family you save a fuck ton.

I like cooking at home but I'm rarely saving money when I do so.

>>12226075
>Hmmm whats cheaper cooking this chicken breast in my kitchen or paying a restaurant to cook it for me hmmmmmm oh me oh my what a puzzler

>>12226075
Freeze tons of food. Use canned and pickled food. Get creative with leftovers. Make soup... I feed myself 7 days a week, 2 grown ass men probably 5 meals each (including grocery pilfering), and everyone's girlfiends at least once per week - to save money going out, I'd have to eat the cheapest of the cheap and not share anything.

>>12226075
It's not debatable. You don't have to eat the same meal for a weak, but when you cook, you obviously cook bigger amounts, so you don't have to cook every day and you can still have variety.

Something is wrong where you live, either restaurants are too cheap or you buy only expensive stuff.

For me i can make 3-4 servings at home for the price of 1 serving in restaurants in general.

It's not debatable, that cooking at home saves you money, only the amount can be a question.

>>12225090
>retarded analogy
Except it costs a fuck ton more to buy the parts to build a viable car than it does to buy enough to make a week's worth of food at home. Also you use a car a lot longer than you use things you cook. God damn I know this is a bait thread but if you really believe the shit you just said then I guarantee that's the reason your an underachieving fat ass.

>>12226675
This. It doesn't matter how many people you are cooking for. If you are a cooking for a smaller number of people then there are tons of ways you can fight the monotany of cooking large batches of the same thing:
-use your fridge/freezer to store leftovers so you're not eating the same dish more than once every few weeks
-repurpose leftovers to make them into something different. For example, maybe one day you cook a rib roast and eat it like that. A couple days later you can use some of the leftovers to make a Philly sandwich. Dice up the rest and use some of it to make meat pies, and the rest for chili.
-you don't have to use up an entire package of food at once. I might buy a big pack of chicken thighs, then use some for a stir-fry one day, a chicken sandwich the next day, dice it up and add to some soup the next, etc.

>>12225090
Read the ingredients on a can of chunky soup. Note down the percentages of meat, vegetables, grains, pasta etc. Work out how much they are in weight. Work out the price of these amounts of ingredients. Realise how cheap it is to make your own.

>>12226702
It's also not hard to do the math and cut down the size of certain recipes

When I cook for myself, I end up with a bunch of mismatched ingredients that spoil quickly which I end up throwing anyway.

It's far more economical for me to buy ready made meals than to spend time shopping, preparing, cooking and cleaning.

>>12226767
What's stopping you from using your fridge/freezer to stop things from spoiling before you use them?

What's stopping you from learning recipes to use up your excess ingredients?

for example, I bought some buttermilk last week to make waffles. I've got about half the bottle left over. Because I don't want to waste it, I'll be choosing to cook a recipe this week which will use it up before I have to throw it out--most likely I'll use it to marinate some fried chicken.

>>12226777
There will always be people, who simply too lazy to cook or can't plan for shit and have no idea what to do with leftover ingredients. Restaurants need to make money too.

>>12226802
Yeah, I get that, I was just curious what' anon's specific reasons are.

These days it seems that nobody should have this problem since things like freezers are cheap and ubiquitous, and we have the internet to teach us what to do with whatever leftover ingredients we have.

>>12225090
>equates making a car to making a meal
Oh nonono anon

>not even going to bring up the time value
If you’re here your time is worthless

>>12226808
It still doesn't cure lazyness. Even if the info is available, some people just don't care, rather buy pre-made stuff or go to restaurants.

Most things we invent, it's for to make life more and more comfortable. Human lazyness makes the world go around.

>>12226767
You are doing it wrong. You should base your meals on what ingredients you have. Expand your collection of staple foods and spices.

>>12225261
You sound like you're genuinely autistic

>>12226851
You sound like you're poor, and your lack of budgeting is probably why.

Rice, beans, frozen vegetables and oil feed you for less than 2 bucks a day with less active prep time than it would take to walk/drive to a restaurant and back. OP is retarded.

>>12225090
>Comparing an incredibly precise process for parts that require specific machining and millions of dollars worth of equipment to throwing shit you got from the store into a pan.

>>12225090
We are all browsing 4chan. Our time has no value. If you are too lazy to cook, cite that rather than your own inefficiency with shopping for cost-conscience ingredients.

I spent some time reading comments Tastemade's Struggle Meals and it's sadly hilarious how many people don't know how to grocery shop. Shit like people complaining about buying garlic just to use one or two cloves.
>WTF am I supposed to do with the rest of it? Throw it away!?!
>No, you use it in other recipes.
>WTF I don't have time for that! What other recipes use garlic?!?
>Like millions of recipes use garlic, pick one

>>12225090
>not even going to bring up the time value of money into this argument
yeah, because you're not completely fucking retarded and know it would diminish your already shitty argument
you're smart enough to know that nobody's going to use "all the time they save not cooking" to get a second job or anything. they're NOT being paid anyways, ergo that time does NOT have value
time only has value IF YOU'RE GETTING PAID FOR IT

>>12225995
says the guy posting on 4chan

>>12225090
Nah I'd rather make my own mac and cheese than eat that shit from Kraft, if you thing the latter is better you clearly are either American or just don't like good food

>>12225235
If you make the noodles from scratch sure but it's fine if you make a small portion of broth, boil an egg, cook a slither of pork with fat and add chopped onion chive, it's not that much work when you do it imo

>>12225101
or just boil some rice and add beans and you've got yourself a great meal in no time

>>12225261
>buying big macs
>buying drinks
If you bring your own drink and order an item that is money-efficient for calories McDs is not that bad

>>12226092
not him but if you don't have a chicken breast you gotta go buy a pack of at least 2 in the store, plus the other things you wanna cook with it if you don't have them directly, or just go in a hobo kitchen and get shit real cheap lol

>>12225090
Yeah, I hate this meme too, OP. It's like these normies don't even have a sense of annoyance at spending time and effort on unnecessary chores. Inevitably when they claim cooking is easy and you start going into all the logistics and how you wouldn't have the energy or motivation to keep up with that for more than one or two meals they start acting like it doesn't even register to them as work.

>>12227996
sorry but I disagree kraft mac is better than any homemade mac n cheese I have ever had

>>12227996
>>12228076
You're not wrong. People like this just have some weird pro-homecooked bias that deceives them into believing everything they make is better than the brand name products.

>>12228054
a proper butcher will sell you however many chicken breasts you want. Want one? Ask for one. Want half of one? Ask for half of one. you pay by weight.

As for the other stuff, that's the point of cooking normally. You keep an inventory of basic shit in your fridge/pantry.

>>12225090
You can't treat all time spent as an opportunity cost unless it really is.

Did you graduate high school or just get your GDE?

>>12226214
>Freeze tons of food. Use canned and pickled food. Get creative with leftovers.
Thank you for proving the "just cook your own food" position is complete bullshit. Why the fuck would you want to live off leftovers and war ration tier tins of preserved foods? How could you possibly love saving pocket change this much? What's even the point of money if you're going to live your life miserable?

>>12228122
>Why the fuck would you want to live off leftovers and war ration tier tins of preserved foods?
It's not that I would "want" to. It's that the alternative wastes so fucking much money that the former is the better option, by far.

I spend about $7-10 a day on food. I eat very well. If I had to eat the same eating out I'm sure I'd be spending $50 a day, easily, and that's assuming that the right places even exist where I live.

"getting creative with leftovers" doens't mean you have to suffer through reheated slop. It means stuff like: oh, you just made a bigass batch of chili? why not make chili dogs at some point to use up the leftovers. And sometimes I do simply reheat leftovers....if you cook often, you have so many there is no monotany. Tonight I'll probably have some gumbo out of the freezer; I haven't had that in over a month.

I think a lot of millennials have adopted the idea of simply eating whatever they like when the whim strikes them, yet have no idea just how much $$$ they are wasting when they do such a thing.

>>12225264
Thank you. Retards that make the "muh time is worth too much to cook" meme argument never take into account that they're not on the clock 24/7.

>>12225090
gatorade ice cubes

>>12228150
that's because they are idiots, anon, and they don't have any argument. they're just flailing for any excuse they can think of.

>>12228148
>If I had to eat the same eating out I'm sure I'd be spending $50 a day, easily
For one person? A hotdog at Sonic is like $1. How the fuck are you getting up to $50 for one day's worth of eating?

>>12228172
you need a minimum of 4 mchickens a day thats at least 5.69 a day + gas for 3 trips to mc donalds

>>12228122
Home canned tomatoes picked from your garden at the peak of freshness btfo of any canned tomato you can buy including meme italian imported. If what is "leftover" was good to begin with, why does it suddenly become bad when eaten again? In fact, most stews, chillis, curries, braises and soups improve over time. I would argue you're living miserable being dependent on whatever big daddy megacorporation slops into your pig trough.

>>12228148
>I think a lot of millennials have adopted the idea of simply eating whatever they like when the whim strikes them, yet have no idea just how much $$$ they are wasting when they do such a thing.
I know exactly how much money I'm spending. And it's worth every cent. I'd be happy paying double. Not having to spend a single second on going to stores, getting groceries, storing ingredients, preparing and cooking meals, limiting what I can eat to what I have stored already or else needing to trash perishables or go with lower quality approaches like tins and freezer food, etc. is absolutely worth spending money on.
Each day when I head into work only thing I need to worry about is brushing my teeth, taking a shower, and putting on some clothes. And every day when I'm back home from work all I need to worry about is maybe loading up some laundry and brushing my teeth again. You don't even know the freedom you're missing out on. You've learned to just take all the insane amounts of time and effort invested in an ongoing cooking habit for granted so it doesn't even consciously register to you anymore.

>>12228206
ill have way more freedom than you when they cut off your feet because of your diabetes

You save money cooking your own food if you're going for high quality. I can buy a steak and the most spend (if I went with prime and an expensive cut) is $20 - 30. But in a steakhouse they'd charge $50 - 100 and might not even cook it correctly. Same with seafood. But yeah fast food vs boxed/canned meals is pretty much a wash

>>12228188
I don't bother owning a car and have plenty of fast food restaurants right next to where I live. Not even a quarter of a mile to get there. I go outside and I'm already at the Sonic, or I walk maybe thirty paces and I'm at the Popeyes, or I go in the other direction same distance and it's the KFC/Taco Bell combination restaurant. And no, you don't need 4 mchickens a day. Most days I microwave some instant noodles for one meal and eat some $1 or $2 order from a restaurant for another meal. Granted this won't work if you're fat.

>>12225090
Making your own food is cheaper if your time is worthless.

>>12228172
>For one person?
Yes.

>A hotdog at Sonic is like $1
I don't consider that to be food.

>How the fuck are you getting up to $50 for one day's worth of eating?
Here's what I had today, and my guess for what it would cost at a restaurant:
Breakfast: a mandarin orange, steel-cut oats, whole milk, and some homemade applesauce on top of the oatmeal. That's $10 easy at a hipster/yuppie cafe which is pretty much the only place I might find that.
Lunch: Masaman curry (reheated from freezer) which I made from scratch, steamed sticky rice. From my local thai place this would cost $10 plus tax, tip/delivery, though mine kicks the shit out of theirs since I actually made the paste by hand while I know they use canned. I'd expect to pay $15-20 for that meal at a restaurant.

For dinner I have a ribeye steak in the fridge, I'm going to sear it then finish with garlic and rosemary, then while it rests I'm going to deglaze the skillet with cognac to make a finishing sauce. French style whipped mashed potatoes on the side (full-on 50% butter...I'm using Lurpak), and a big 'ol piece of key lime cheesecake for dessert. I made the cake over the weekend (anson mills recipe).

Not bad for about $10 worth of food cost.

>>12228220
you literally live in a nightmare

>>12228218
My odds of diabetes are likely lower than yours. #1 predictor, by far, of type 2 diabetes is being overweight or obese. I'm underweight and have been underweight my entire adult life into my 30s. You're actually safer eating junk food with a low overall calorie intake than you are eating non-junk food at a caloric surplus that leaves you overweight, although a lot of people refuse to accept this as true, probably because fatties pushed so hard on that "skinny people can be unhealthy too!" meme.

>>12228222
It's often cheaper even if your time is worth money.
It's faster to whip up something simple at home or reheat leftovers than it is to go out and get food.

>>12228229
Nope. You sound psychotically obsessed with food. If it were really a "nightmare" for me I'd have done something else instead a very long time ago. Having all my free time and zero thought or effort needed for chores like ingredient stocking, food prep, cooking, and management of unused perishables are much more valuable to me than having access to a low cost version of some more elaborate dish.

>>12228232
>It's faster to whip up something simple at home
Sometimes, but you still have to factor in driving to the grocery store, shopping, waiting in line etc.
>reheat leftovers
All of the above plus time to cook, plus time to reheat.

>>12228256
you really value "free time" what do you do during this time thats so much better than cooking?

>>12225261
>$27.89 No fucking way.

>>12225090
Only cucked coasties pay out the nose for food, cooking is cheap as fuck where I live. Never a need to ever order takeout.

>>12228279
Sleeping, internet, downloading and watching shows / movies on the internet, recreational psychoactive substances. Mostly sleeping. I can never get enough sleep. Easily the best part of the horrible accident that is life.

>>12228288
>cooking is cheap as fuck where I live. Never a need to ever order takeout.
Nobody says they don't want to cook because it's expensive. People don't cook because they don't want to invest the time and effort.

this pack of 4 is only $6 right now at costco w/ no limit... i only bought 2 but im thinking i should get more

>>12228300
Ever stop to think you might sleep all the time because you are malnourished?

>>12228278
>Sometimes, but you still have to factor in driving to the grocery store, shopping, waiting in line etc.
I go to the store once every week, it takes less than an hour, and that's with me making 3 stops (supermarket, azn market, butcher). Yes, it takes time. But the time taken is negligible compared to visiting a restaurant multiple times a day.

>All of the above plus time to cook, plus time to reheat.
Lol, how are you going to get food faster than microwaving something for one minute? I don't deny that cooking takes time but now you're just being absurd.

>>12228278
>Sometimes, but you still have to factor in driving to the grocery store, shopping, waiting in line etc.
That takes about maybe an hour per week for most people.

>>12228312
And/or horribly depressed

>>12228322
Exacerbated by malnourishment.

>>12228331
And probably excessive masturbation, anon just sounds like he has a terrible life.

>>12228312
I like sleeping though. If getting better "nourished" were something that would result in my no longer being able to sleep all the time then I wouldn't want to get better "nourished."
>>12228322
I know any response I give here will be met with "but that's not what depression really is!" But FYI I'm not depressed. My mood's right where I want it, satisfied and relaxed. I *would* get pretty stressed out depressed if I had to start keeping up with all the shit that goes into getting groceries, maintaining food ingredient inventory, and cooking all the time.

>>12228334
You don't know what freedom feels like so it seems unpleasant from your normalfag perspective.

>>12228335
How are you ever going to find a QT gf(male) if you cant cook. they dont want to eat cup noodles and hotdogs everyday

>>12225485
People just need to watch Chef John and stop with the BA and food network shit.

Like, watch Molly's Basque cheesecake video, then watch the Chef John version, and tell me that her version isn't retarded (for a home cook) by comparison. And that is far from the most egregious example.

>>12228349
My little brother's married and has kids. I don't feel any pressure to do the same. A very long time ago from late high school through the first couple years out of university I did bother with having girlfriends. There's some benefits to doing that, but getting to be relaxed and having my place to myself ended up a lot more attractive to me as I got older.

>>12228354
They're both super easy and almost identical iirc

>>12228335
>>I like the taste of medicine, so I'll just make myself sick on purpose so I can take more medicine
really bro?

>>12228317
I mean sure, you could microwave takeout/delivery leftovers just as fast.

>>12228373
Your analogy's faulty because you can get medicine without being sick, whereas if you can't enjoy sleeping all the time after increasing your calorie take to something more American then the only way to resolve that is to stop eating at that higher calorie level. It doesn't feel natural to me to eat that much as it is, so what you're asking me to do here is eat to the point where it feels unpleasant so that I have a bunch of excess calories keeping me awake. That's basically all cons, no pros.

>>12228370
no.

The prep work, the tools used, the order of presentation, and the fact that chef John properly explains what he's doing without the dumb editing - it would be WAY easier for an amateur cook to do johns version.

Like, in terms of learning from the content, can you really compare the two of them?

>>12225090
You're an idiot

You can save money by cooking your own food provided you don't buy stupid products, but you seem like that kind of person.

>>12228394
You dont need more calories you need. Magnesium, zinc, vitamin A and probably every other micro and macro nutrient. I know for a fact your not getting these things from cup noodles and $2 worth of fastfood a day

>>12228380
that would be just as fast, but likely not as cheap.

if you're willing to look for them you can find some good bulk deals. I sometimes get chinese specifically for the purpose of keeping leftovers. Lo mein, for example, reheats very well and is usually decent value for money as far as eating out goes--you get a lot of food for your dollar. But even that is cheaper to make at home, and faster too. I buy it due to laziness, not for any sort of logical reason, and I don't do it often.

>>12228394
>Your analogy's faulty because you can get medicine without being sick,
Pretend it's prescription medicine if that makes you feel better.

I think you're depressed and you probably ought to see a doctor.

Have you ever kept a diet log or tracked your eating to see if you might have any nutritional deficiencies? They are quite common, and a major symptom of them is craving sleep.

>>12225090
it's not a meme though, it's cheaper, better for you and saves time too, assuming you're not handicapped or retarded.

>>12228427
>Pretend it's prescription medicine if that makes you feel better.
Do you seriously not know how to get prescription drugs yourself without getting sick and having a doctor OK them for you? There's this thing called the internet.
>I think you're depressed
Called it. No matter what answer is given that response conclusion was always coming. For someone arguing this hard against laziness you sure do argue lazily.

>>12228427
Also what part of "I like being able to sleep whenever I want" don't you understand? You're asking me to somehow want to take measures towards working against the thing I enjoy doing. I wouldn't want that.

>>12225951
more like 3x, and they get wholesale

>>12228467
>Also what part of "I like being able to sleep whenever I want" don't you understand?
I do understand it anon, I just choose to ignore your whiny protests and focus on the underlying pathology.

I'm asking you to take measures that might be temporarily upsetting to your routine but will make you happier in the long run. I didn't even tell you not to sleep. You seem pretty triggered.

>>12228406
yeah i watched both and made a basque cheesecake earlier this week they are both essentially the same video

>>12228467
Don't bother anon. This is why you don't argue with holes. She'll keep ignoring the point and implementing standard roastie shame tactics like calling you mentally ill or angry.

>>12228764
What the fuck happened to this site where incels shit their sour grapes all over a fucking cooking board lmao. Just end your miserables lives or go the fuck back 2 reddit already.

>>12228776
>If I call him reddit I win the argument

>>12228787
No argument, incel, just facts.

>>12225274
>I don't buy new groceries, I just eat my own faeces. All told it's about equal if you consider the time required

>>12225264
Some people actually value their free time.

>>12230772
But it's free time. You're not getting paid for it whether you're cooking or not so you can't say it makes cooking at home the same cost as eating out.

Imagine being such a timelet you justify buying shitty overpriced food.

>>12228064

Imagine being such a lazy autistic NEET that you are judgey and calling people normies for just not minding doing basic shit for themselves, and not being retarded and thus recognising that cooking is, in fact, easy as fuck.