/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12205721
Well yeah. What are they like 350 calories or so. If you weigh less than 140lbs you would be at a deficit for sure at 1150 calories.

>>12205735
its just funny how people shit on mcdonalds saying its unhealthy.

in moderation its perfectly fine. yet people make fun of americans for enjoying a burger every now and then

>>12205743
>in moderation
That's the key. What they mean is that one asshole who only eats mcdonalds and only leaves he's couch for mcdonalds. It's mostly the sugar from soda that gets people and which said asshole will buy a large no ice.

>>12205743
Calorie intake has almost nothing to do with nutrition, you dense fuck. Keep eating only three burgers a day for a month and see what happens

>>12205770
The cheeseburger has sugar too, almost everything processed food has a little bit of sugar, it makes it tastier and makes you eat more

>>12205802
Yes but comparatively it will have less then the drink.

>>12205721
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i would suck ray crocs dead dick if they added a cheeseburger with lettuce and tomato to the dollar menu. bring back the 99c big n tasty

>>12205826

This and the arch deluxe

>>12205826
why dont you just ask for lettuce and tomato on your cheeseburger

>>12205721
how much did you weight and how tall are you?
mcdonalds omad everyday is my ideal diet but i think i'd get too hungry

>>12205721
I stopped eating shit from mcdonalds completely and lost 17 lbs

>>12205721
Uh I watched Supersize Me by documantarian extrodenare Morgan Shylock so nice try lardo.

>>12205781
>Keep eating only three burgers a day for a month and see what happens
Nothing will happen other than losing more weight. Only 3 cheeseburgers per day is a calorie deficit for a healthy adult.

What's a cheeseburger? Buns - carbohydrate, patty - meat, pickels - vegetable, cheese - dairy product, sauce - mostly tomato and raw onion - vegetable. Junk food or not, seems like a balanced diet to me.

>>12205721
You mean to tell me that you ate less calories than you burned and you lost weight. I dont believe you.

>>12205721
good for you op but you can lose more by buying your own seasoning, ground beef, buns, cheese, and condoments. bonus points if you make the bread from scratch and use cheddar instead of american

>>12205743
>eats three processed burgers literally and truly unironically every day for a month
>complains about outsiders calling him burger

99 cent my ass. I paid $1.29 for one yesterday and $1.89 for a damn 4 piece nuggy. McDonald's is a rip-off now.

>>12205721
A dollar hamburger ,small fries, and a small drink it round about the proper amount of calories for a single meal. It's the people who get a Big Mac, Large Fried, Large Drink and 10 piece McNugget and then sit on their butts all day that get fat.

>>12205721
I've eaten only fast food for the last 18 months and i've gone from size 36 waist to size 30 waist.

you never see jared fogle talked about anymore. what ever happened to him?

>>12207632
He's some big black guy's bitch in the pokey.

>>12207512
The vegetables that are typically placed on a burger (and any sandwich really) are filler and have next to no nutritional value. When they say to eat green vegetables they don't mean lettuce.

>>12207638
>lettuce
>tomato
>onion
>dilled cucumber
>filler
what

inb4 OP goes to prison for being a pedo

>>12205721
>lost weight
>cholesterol through the roof
wew

>>12205721
I mean yeah, eating only 3 tiny burgers a day every day for a month would probably result in weight loss

>>12205781
>A slab of beef with some vegetables and catsup between two pieces of bread
>"Y-YOU'RE GONNA DIE"

>>12207644
>lettuce
Literally leaves that are mostly water. Fast food shitholes use iceberg anyway.
>tomato
fruit full of sugar
>onion
Only real vegetable here, doesn't make up for the rest of the crap.
>dilled cucumber
If you were trying to make pickles sound better for you, you failed. Cukes are fruits and so are pickles.
Literally all of that shit besides the onions and pickles are for texture.

>>12205721
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.

His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.

His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"

Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet.

"I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he said. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer. There's not enough information to do that."

>>12207685
Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

Families who live in food deserts have limited access to fresh fruits and vegetables, so they often rely on the kind of food Haub was eating.

"These foods are consumed by lots of people," he said. "It may be an issue of portion size and moderation rather than total removal. I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to totally drop these foods for vegetables and fruits. It may be healthy, but not realistic."

Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent. This posed the question: What matters more for weight loss, the quantity or quality of calories?

His success is probably a result of caloric reduction, said Dawn Jackson Blatner, a dietitian in Chicago, Illinois.

"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."

Blatner, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association, said she's not surprised to hear Haub's health markers improved even when he loaded up on processed snack cakes.

Being overweight is the central problem that leads to complications like high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, she said.

"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," she said.

Before jumping on the Ding Dong bandwagon, Blatner warned of health concerns.

"There are things we can't measure," said Blatner, questioning how the lack of fruits and vegetables could affect long-term health. "How much does that affect the risk for cancer? We can't measure how diet changes affect our health."

>>12207692
On August 25, Haub, 41, started his cake diet focusing on portion control.

"I'm eating to the point of need and pushing the plate or wrapper away," he said.

He intended the trial to last a month as a teaching tool for his class. As he lost weight, Haub continued the diet until he reached a normal body mass index.

Before his Twinkie diet, he tried to eat a healthy diet that included whole grains, dietary fiber, berries and bananas, vegetables and occasional treats like pizza.

"There seems to be a disconnect between eating healthy and being healthy," Haub said. "It may not be the same. I was eating healthier, but I wasn't healthy. I was eating too much."

He maintained the same level of moderate physical activity as before going on the diet. (Haub does not have any ties to the snack cake companies.)

To avoid setting a bad example for his kids, Haub ate vegetables in front of his family. Away from the dinner table, he usually unwrapped his meals.

Haub monitored his body composition, blood pressure, cholesterol and glucose, and updated his progress on his Facebook page, Professor Haub's diet experiment.

To curb calories, he avoided meat, whole grains and fruits. Once he started adding meat into the diet four weeks ago, his cholesterol level increased.

Haub plans to add about 300 calories to his daily intake now that he's done with the diet. But he's not ditching snack cakes altogether. Despite his weight loss, Haub feels ambivalence.

"I wish I could say the outcomes are unhealthy. I wish I could say it's healthy. I'm not confident enough in doing that. That frustrates a lot of people. One side says it's irresponsible. It is unhealthy, but the data doesn't say that."

>>12207685
>>12207692
>>12207696
tl;dr, yes you can lose weight eating absolute junk as long as you're at a caloric deficit via portion control, just make sure to supplement important nutrition like vitamins and proteins on the side

>>12207692
>dietician shill can't dispute the evidence
>"W-well Little Debbie gives you cancer!!"
KEK

>>12207717
she's obviously got a bias going on but they all admit they don't know.

>>12207597
>processed burger
As opposed to the wild, free range European burgers.

>>12207724
>the wild, free range European burgers.

>>12207700
Would eating more peanut butter and fruit base junk work then? Since those would have the vitamins and proteins already in there?

>>12205743
The burgers aren't the problem, the fries and soda are. A large fry and a large soda have as many calories as one of those stupidly large mushroom burgers.

>>12207684
>he thinks fruit sugar is the same as processed sugar
low iq

>>12205743
>people make fun of americans for enjoying a burger every now and then

actually no , people make fun of those americans that eat in fast food places every single day and become land whales

If you wanted cheeseburgers to become a balanced meal, you'd have to use 10 to 20 times more salad, pickles and tomato to make them than is used in a standard burger and the bun would have to made from whole grain

>>12205743
the portion sizes are actually a lot smaller than most other fast food places. Wendy's is huge compared to MacDonald's. I'm sure it's just cause its international and probably saves a shit mega ton just having your portion sizes a little smaller.

>>12205721
>starve yourself in calories and nutrition
>pretend it’s remarkable when you lose weight

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