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What the hell did Italians eat before tomatoes from the west and noodles from the east were introduced?

>> No.11858501

>>11858491
Who are we considering Italians? Because those were both introduced before unification of Italy

>> No.11858506
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>>11858501
For the intents and purposes of this thread, I define Italy as those who lived within the borders of modern Italy, even before its unification.

>> No.11858508

>>11858491
Pretty standard Mediterranean fare, I imagine

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>>11858491
GABAGOOL

>> No.11858518

>>11858506
It looks like Romans ate bread, pottage, wine, fish, and cheese.

>> No.11858521

>>11858501
>Who are we considering Italians?
People who lived on that boot-shaped peninsula people call Italy. Even back in ancient Rome, they were all called Italians (Italicus), and that persisted afterwards through the middle ages (Italianus) so learn some history.

>> No.11858525

>>11858518
Well that's fucking boring.
Anybody got some ancient Roman recipes that they actually make and like or am I gonna have to take this to >>>/his/?

>> No.11858539

>>11858491
Porridge, bread, beans, lentils, cabbage, leeks, meat, fish, cheese, lard, olive oil
Shit like that

>> No.11858548

>>11858525
The Italian peninsula is a hub of trade, so they had access to all kinds of spices and ingredients long before they added tomatoes and pasta to the pantry. The food of ancient Rome and early Medieval Italy was just as varied and awesome as you might imagine. Just think of the wide variety of Mediterranean and Middle Eastern and North African and Central European cuisines that don't involve tomatoes or pasta. There you go!

>> No.11858549

>>11858491
Italian subs, no tomato

>> No.11858550
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>>11858516

>> No.11858565

>>11858548
I heard once they enjoyed delicacies such as parrot tongues.

>> No.11858570

>>11858491
each other

>> No.11858582

>>11858491
Olives

>> No.11858608

>>11858565
they sure did, they sure did

>> No.11858801

>>11858521
Are you hoping to feel smart by telling me things I already know? Learn something yourself.

>> No.11858812

>>11858525
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_dining_in_the_Roman_Empire

>> No.11858819

>>11858801
I did you asshole I read half an entire Wikipedia article for the response you so brazenly disregarded.

>> No.11858914

>>11858819
Anmd this is exactly problem with you millenial pokeman mongler generation.

>> No.11858932

V E G E T A B L E S

>> No.11858967

>>11858491
My guess is eggplant and gourds before tomato and bread and gruel before pasta.

>> No.11858980

>>11858914
dunning-kruger?

>> No.11858984

>>11858967
>eggplant
and I would be wrong on this one

>> No.11859149

>>11858491
>Pasta is noodles
>Noodles are from the east
>Italian food is "pasta+tomato" lmao
Gee I wonder what the nationality of this poster is?

>> No.11859156

>>11858491
Noodles/pasta were in Italy since the romans, fucking canadian faggot fucks started this stupid chink meme. how is boiling dough super secret chink knowledge?

>> No.11859281

>>11858565
Options for diversion were limited in those days. Where now we shitpost to while away the time, they had to eat odd meats.

>> No.11859319

>>11858501
>Who are we considering Italians? Because those were both introduced before unification of Italy
>>11858801
>Are you hoping to feel smart by telling me things I already know?

It's obviously not something you already know, because you thought "Italians" only meant people who lived there AFTER the unification of Italy in in the mid-1800s. Nobody thinks that answer's about "feeling smart" but answering your question simply so the conversation could continue.

>> No.11859453

>>11859149
>Amerilards think that their "sketti" is an Italian dish
zoz

>> No.11859459

>>11858491
Bread, Wine, Olives, Garum, Figs, maybe some cured meat if they were rich.

>> No.11861292

>>11858525
They had garum to add flavor to things

>> No.11861324

hamburgers https://www.epicurus.com/food/recipes/isicia-omentata-a-kind-of-roman-burgers/4933/

>> No.11861328

it's another "americans invented thing" episode!

>> No.11861466

>>11859319
To be fair, Italians are a hot-headed breed driven completely by emotion and are incapable of rational argument. They'll gladly switch between "Italian culture is one of the most ancient in the world" and "There was no such thing as a unified Italy until the latter half of the 19th century" as it suits them.

>> No.11862568

>>11861466
>incapable of rational argargument
And yet you somehow seem to believe the unification erased any previous cculture, instead of also unifying the separate cultural histories.

>> No.11862617

>>11859149
>pasta isn't noodles

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>>11858550
who da fuck are you laughin at?

you betta watch it ya fuckin fanook