/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11822909
Yes as long as you educate yourself on the necessary vitamins ex: B12
B12 is grown by bacteria in the gut but can't be absorbed by the body this is why animals often eat their feces. Animals are usually just fed B12 pills nowadays because they're deficient too(90% of B12 supplements are fed to livestock) You can also cultivate your own B12 if you'd rather avoid the fortified foods and supplements

>>11822909
Might as well go one step further and live off Soylent, you fag

>vegan diets healthy
yes
>and easy to achieve
No my brother's fiance is a vegan and every fucking time that cunt comes over it's an ordeal and she bitches about how champagne and s''o'''y sauce aren't vegan because they use fish byproduct. The only thing we can eat around her is fucking plain rice and steamed vegetables

>>11822960
To add: I even once tried to make her pasta with pesto but she objected because pesto contained parmesan and I didn't buy the humanitarian society approved version
tl;dr vegans are insane

>>11822909
>healthy
absolutely, so long as you're watching and making sure you're getting enough vitamins and minerals. My wife is vegan and gets more iron and protein in her diet than anyone else I know solely because she knows what she needs to eat.

>easy to acheive
if you have formed tastebuds and aren't a complete idiot at cooking, absolutely since most recipes can subsitute something to make it vegan, i.e. jackfruit for meat, banana for an egg substitute, etc.

>>11822909
>are vegan diets healthy
Sure
>and easy to achieve?
Reorienting your taste buds is a bit of a challenge, but if you can get over that then you should be fine.
Every vegan I've ever met has been a douche who's only doing it for the moral high ground they think it gives them. So the idea of being a vegan doesn't appeal to me, but you do you, anon.

>>11822909
>Is being vegan healthy?

hmm let's take a look shall we?

>>11823323
>animal vitamins such as A & D will never be found in plants
I'm not a vegan but this is fucking retarded

>>11822909
The vegan diet is the healthiest diet on the face of the earth, and dont let any lying carnist tell you differently.

>>11822984
You were the one mocroaggressing her and she's the one who's insane? What kind of carnist logic is this?

>>11823358
>my GF's sperm
Yup. That's a vegan.

>>11823358
>This.

The vegan runner will explain how a Vegan diet is optimal for healthy robust teeth and gums...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

>>11823364
>Hom J Dindu
>He believed the Vegan lies.
>And died
F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

>>11823335
Animal sources are both more efficient when it comes to those nutrients. Also vitamin d3 isn't found in plant based foods, vitamin d2 is and it's a less effective form than d3. It's also mainly found in mushrooms, which if you're buying from a chain grocery store will contain very small amounts as they're grown in the dark. Wild or garden grown mushrooms are a great source of d2 though.

>>11823408
>more efficient
You can easily you get what you need from veggies for those vitamins

>>11823423
That's why vegans teeth are always so healthy and strong. Humans have four stomachs just like cows, designed for digesting plants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

is it possible to be healthy on a vegan diet? Yes. Is it easy? Oh fuck no

>>11823468
Lol dude I eat meat but most the vitamin A I get comes from carrots or other veggies

>>11823485
Its easy. But most people have no willpower

>>11823423
Preformed vitamin a does not need to be converted and has a higher absorption rate. Preformed vitamin a is only found in animals. Pro vitamin a is found in plants and is converted to vitamin a, its less efficient.
Vitamin d2 is found in plants, mainly mushrooms and even then only mushrooms that have been exposed to light. Most vegan sources of vitamin d are from fortified foods.

I did not in my post state that you couldn't meet the RDI for those nutrients on a vegan diet, just that animal products are more efficient sources.

Strongly advise against it. Chances of malnourishment are astronomical. Soy is dangerous for men (hormonal balance). Bodybuilding diet is the most effective.

>>11823493
>>11823468
>>11823423
>>11823408
>>11823335
Vitamins D, A, K, E are fat-soluble, meaning you can use all the supplements vegans do, the vitamins will not be absorbed by the body if you don't eat animal fat. Since these micronutrients are storied in your liver and fatty tissues, they are eliminated much more slowly than watersoluble vitamins. By the first few years, when the vegans become looking like holocaust survivors - losing all their fat, and with it their fat-soluble vitamin reserves -do the loss of teeth, brain fog, skin problems, muscle and bone weakness, etc. hit them.

>>11822909
>easy to achieve?
Bruh just stop buying meat and cook your own food. Like, just buy less man.

>>11823468
No Sv3rige, we have one stomach, like rabbits.

>>11823578
Fat soluble is not exclusively refer to animal fat.

>>11824682
Rabbits eat their poop. Vegans confirmed for coprophiliacs.

>>11823423
Exactly. Dont let the carnists lie to you, brothers. Keep the faith, and dont forget your dentures!

get a load of the murdering psychopath defending his behavior itt

>>11824749
vegan poop is quite healthy for you and actually tasty (it smells and tasts like biscuits), unlike your carnists craps of rotten meat.

>>11822909
going vegan is pretty great for fatasses, pounds melt off but you feel like you're not actually starving cause you graze all the time. just watch your oils and starches and emphasis greens and root veg.

>>11824835
>graze all the time
do vegans moo like cows too?

>>11822909
Yes you should be vegan for 2 or 3 days per week.

>>11823485
long term vegan here, I'm in the best health of my life. I mean, my skin is flaking off, and I've lost a few teeth here and there, but that's the way healthy humans are supposed to be. strong teeth are a carnist affectation, paid for with the blood of gaia.

Vegans are probably the worst people.

Like... I have friends that are vegetarian, but they drink milk and they eat cheese and eggs and stuff and they're not losing their teeth.

>>11823377
Oh. These are videos from the guy that eats raw meat.

He's like the anti vegan.

>>11824828
Freelee (the banana girl) is just one step away from caprophogy for vegans. She already lives naked in the forest screaming about carnists, and she and her ßòyboy betamale boyfriend prepare their "humanure" fortified garden.

They are getting close to "eating like a gorilla"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z3zO6KC920

>>11822909
yes they're healthy and easy, especially when you consider how ethical it is. just don't eat meat or anything stolen from anything thats ever been in a disney cartoon.

>>11822909
Does the human organism need B12 to survive?
Yes?
Is it found in an all-plant diet?
No?

Question answered.

>>11824972
this is a carnist lie.
humans don't need b12, and you can get it from a vegan diet anyway. just don't wash your root vegetables before eating them.

>>11824979
Nice bait

>>11822909
no its just for a week or something

>>11825015
fuck off carnist swine

When I went "spiritual vegan" I experienced a psychotic breakdown and nearly died naked meditating on a sheet of ice expecting to get beamed up by aliens.

Would anyone read my book?

"After several days eating nothing but a few hundred calories of
vegan garbohydrates my mental state continued to deteriorate. As the mania ramped up I became increasingly obsessed with "spiritual" pursuits. I barely ate or slept. I was reading everything I could about reptilian exopolitics, twin flames, the law of attraction, The Event, and all the New Age dogma I could feast my eyes on. This is where things started getting pretty weird. I was walking around wearing shorts in blizzard weather practicing cold thermogenesis..."

Would anyone listen to my rap?

"Carnivore bitches are delicious (mmm)
Not too vicious (mhm)
I don't wanna wash no dishes (mm mm)
I bring the meat up on the beat (eat me baby)
There's no carbage in my kitchens (teach me baby)
That garbage I'm ditchin' (impeach me baby)
Cause the meat up in my kitchen's firin' up the heat in my metabolism
I think I might skeet skeet skeet skeet along to the meat beat
This is meat rehabolism
Sync'd to the mother lovin' beat of this song
It's fat-adapted fab-o-lism
Try a little dabble-ism
With yo mother or yo sister man I bring the meat up all night long in conversation
All across the nation and on every street
To the beat of this song yeah I fire up your grill and bring the heat
With yo daughter I'ma feed her meat until she tweet about it
I think she might tweet tweet tweet tweet along to the meat beat
You don't need to bring the heat about it"

Would anyone listen to me in general when I espouse the physical and mental health healing benefits of zero carb carnivory?

>>11824972
Where do you get your B12 from anon?

>>11825026
Enjoy your anemia

>>11822909
Not nessecarily healthy. A wfpb diet is just about the healthiest diet there is, however you can still eat cake, ice cream, chips and cookies as a vegan. They are easy to achieve too, i can always find something to eat at a restaurant or friends house. Staples like bananas/grains/beans/potatoes/seeds are cheap as dirt, i spend about 40 bucks a week on food and i buy lots of fruit and veg.

>>11822909
>Give it to me straight /ck/ are vegan diets healthy
No. You can survive on a vegan diet, not thrive.

>and easy to achieve? Anyone know from experience?
It's expensive to buy vegan ready meals. Cooking prep time is insane for any meal unless your just eating rice and steamed veggies. I even stopped using all oils and margarine. Eating out is just as hard. So unless you really wanna go off the deep end and join the cult, it's not worth it. Just include more veggies and use less carbs and starches, and dont make every meal all about the meat.

>>11825060
I'm low carb primal. We are on the same path to health.

>>11823377
>>11823364
>>11823358
>>11823323
>>11824792
>>11824828
>>11824839
>>11824861
>>11824960
>>11825060
Same
Bald
Fag

I went vegan for environmental and ethical reasons at the start of the year. Feel great and look good. I recommend Gardein brand everything. You'll be full of gas and bloated as fuck your first week but then you start feeling amazing and a crazy amount of energy by week two.

>>11828192
You'll feel even better as your body acclimates to your new ethical way of eating.

>>11828146
>seething

>>11828146
>humans arent supposed to have all their teeth.

>>11828315
>>11828289
Full time and unpaid
One post and you sperg out for 8 hours by yourself
I can't imagine how shit your life is

>>11826012
Do you have an eating disorder? Why do the people who try to eat vegan try to eliminate dietary fat? Why do so many people still not know dietary fat is essential? Do you think eating disorders and associated mental health issues or misinformation is what causes people to fail so spectacularly at extreme diets?

>>11822960
>>11822984
Sounds like she mogged the shit out of you kek

>>11828353
Of course you can't. Your type is notoriously low on empathy, despite constantly claiming you have it coming out the butthole.

>>11826012
anon. friend;y reminder that we're talking about vegan, not keto.

>>11828315
>>11828289
> Keeps obsessively posting the same dozen of so vegans

Sv3rige be careful or you'll end up in a mental institution again

>>11829073
That sounds like a request for some Sverige videos?? I will happily oblige you my fellow carnist!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

Every vegans dream is to destroy his or her own health to the point he ends up being featured in the next Sverige compilations video. It's the highest badge of honor for any vegan starveling.

>>11829182
are you... ok? If you need some friends to talk to you will always have me available.

>>11828353
>incel
way to expose yourself redditor.

>>11829182
>be vegan boneman
or
>be carnist baldman
muh restricted diets

>>11829240
We're here so we are friends in a way.
Come in out of the forest, friend??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4

>>11829406
FYI Sv3rige is not a restricted carnivore, rather a freestyle primal. On his last video he was getting euphoria over cucumbers so much that I thought he was about to go vegan.

Plus the madlad is minutes away from 60k subscribers. Not bad for a small town latvian goy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XuSQq77NJQ

>>11828253
Man, this is stupid. We didn't evolve to run down prey and bite into their jugular to kill them, we evolved to run them down and stab them with pointy sticks, or club them rocks/logs. There was no point in developing those types of teeth. We have generalist teeth like pigs do.

>>11823323
Mmmmm, that's some good cherries you picked there my man. Can I do the same for non-vegans? Mind you I'm not vegan, I just like blowing shitposting fags like you out.

>>11829765
Vegans are so evolved they don't even need teeth.

>>11823358
This is your brain on veganism.

DESU after 40 Im going to limit my proteins to occasional fish and chicken. cheese, sausages, and red meats are really hard on your system.

>>11822909
Been vegan for a year, it's fucking easy. Just ease your way into it with "meat replacements" until you learn some good recipes. It's objectively the most healthy diet that you're able to stick to, but you really wont notice any real changes. Just don't be alarmed by sudden sickness if you do a 180 switch from a meat based diet to a vegan one over night.

>>11829964
This. It's much better to ease yourself into veganism so the sickening is gradual and won't be as noticeable.

>>11822934
>You can also cultivate your own B12
How so? Is it complicated? Is it safe?
Very curious.

>>11822984
so you wanted to give cheese to someone who is vegan and you're surprised they didn't like the idea?
Anyway: it's not like there aren't any pasta dishes without cheese or meat, italy is filled with those.
My guess is you just like to complain

>>11822934
>B12
Important. Reminder that 40% of meat eaters also have a B12 deficiency so be sure to spread the word to your carny friends

>>11824886
Like you, or anyone ITT, actually saw a vegan suffering from his diet alone.

>>11823323
>>11823373
>so few cherries to pick I'm going to post the same person multiple times
Why can't /pol/tards think?

>>11822960
Militant vegans are so high maintenance, especially if you have ever traveled with one. Their meal needs basically dictate your entire fucking trip. best leave them behind unless you like watching some poor waiter get interrogated about the lentil soup stock

>>11822909
Vegan diet can be healthy but you'll have to think about your vitamin intake a bit more than when you're eating vitamin-gorged meat on a daily basis.

>>11823510
>Soy is dangerous for men (hormonal balance).
Why is /pol/ still pushing this bro science after years and years of it being refuted

The estrogen from soy is trivial. It's not even close to the amount you get from animal meat. Everyone has estrogen in their system no matter what your diet is.

>teeth
>teeth
>teeth
>teeth
>teeth
>literally posting the same two people over and over, for hours at a time, every day of your life
Imagine the nuclear-grade autism you have to do this in your spare time

>>11826012
>Cooking prep time is insane for any meal
Vegan food doesn't take any longer than any other kind of food. You're doing something wrong. Unless you seriously think chopping an onion or a potato is "insane"

>>11830019
>>11830031
Stay vegan bro. Promise me that you never quit Veganism?? Teeth falling out is no excuse to quit a starvation cult lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

>>11830040
Are you asking why vegans need teeth? I would have to agree they don't so they are being she'd for evolutionary reasons

>>11826012
>buying ready meals
Do Brits really do this?

>she'd

Imagine being the balding incel sitting in the dark posting the same 4 pictures from his VEGAN_HATE folder over and over for hours at a time every day, grinning like an idiot and hee-hawing like a hyena in an empty room

>>11830040
That is sad, but imagine being the Vegan activist who has to read and damage control all his posts!!! Lol fucking lol!!!

Oh wait--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

>>11830054
Shed. Jesus fuck why does jewgle do that probably has something to do with cuckshe'ds

>>11830063
Not that guy but apparently hes doing God's work. Thank you based and meatpilled balding incel bro

>>11830063
Imagine being you-- the emaciated vegan crying about it.

>>11822934
Reminder that you can easily acquire your B12 from sips.

I’m vegan but I drink milk.

>>11822909
The only healthy thing is to find a middle ground between full carnist and full vegan. Humans are omnivores.

>>11830085
Thanks broham it's not just one person, I am the emaciated vegans videos poster, the funniest anti vegan troll is the epic memesposter.

Over 900 confirmed vegan suicides after being roasted by him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11830105
>I'm not vegan.
Cool story

>>11823578
you literally synthesize vitamin D from sun exposure, not that you know what that is

>>11830040
>>11830063
>seething toothless vegan cant handle the truth

>>11830121
>I'm not vegan.
You should try it. There’s a huge range of food options and you won’t be abusing and using animals. It’s more ethical.

>>11830120
Your autism only makes me stronger senpai

>>11830136
>Dumping tons and tons and tons and tons, and tons, of chemical pesticides on wild animals is somehow...... Ethical??

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>11830267
It only counts if the animal has been featured in a Disney cartoon.

>>11830159
It sure as fuck isnt your diet, vegan.

>>11830283
Woops I took his comment as a brohug of support.

Repent carnist!!

>>11823578
Except the most vitamin A enriched foods are vegetables

>>11830375
I'm an ICU nurse and I'll that that any day over slowly rotting away in a bed like so many of my patients.
We seem to care a lot more about a humane death for animals than for humans.

>>11822909
I'm vegetarian/close to vegan. I supplement well, work out and eat tons of food. Vegetarianism really sparked my love of cooking and got me to explore more dishes. I've found it really easy to maintain and I only crave very specific things. Weird to see so much Sevrdige trolling too - most people can obviously benefit from moderating or restricting consumption of red meat and animal products. Watching my hick family go through heart disease and obesity and cancer has at least convinced me of that much.

>>11830389
This is very true. My father is in a state where euthanasia would be a blessing. Instead he will be bedridden for 30 more years trapped in his body.

>>11829963
The amount of red meat you should eat per week is surprisingly small.

>>11829963
Yeah, there's no reason to eat dairy at all. It's just calories and salt and estrogen and it hurts your intestines worse and worse as you get older.

>>11830463
There's no reason to eat dairy? Duh look at vegans, same with plant, same with meat. Pull your head out if you're ass

I LOVE CHEESE
FUCK YOU

>>11830463
It gives me diarrhoea, violent violent diarrhoea.

>>11830507
you may have the contents of my foreskin.

>>11830399
>heart disease and obesity and cancer
Not due to the red meat, soiboi.

>>11830689
Butter did the majority of the damage to be fair.

>>11830689
Go back to your homeboard you tourist newnigger soyfaggot

>>11830755
More likely margarine. And the biscuits and gravy and cornbread.

>>11830763
>reee stop pointing out the truth about me and my girlfriend's (male) meme diet.
What did the vegan mean by this?

>>11830857
I've seen tubs of cheesy potatoes you wouldn't believe. The midwest is horrifying.

>>11830857
Those things are all fine just don't be fat and get some exercise. My relatives were all healthy into their 80s on a meat potatoes and apple pie diet

>>11830864
I obviously didn't make that post lol

>>11825060
Great post

>>11830873
Vegans are healthy into their 100's. Carnists btfo.

>>11830864
It’s more like youre a stupid newfaggot nigger tourist who doesn’t realize this isnt his septic tank homeboard where soy is filtered. Every garbage post comes from you unemployed losers

>>11825060
go on

>>11830910
good... good... let the vegan toxins ooze from your body, then you can have a really good cry and you'll be ready to accept the truth, that what you really want is a nice rare steak, from a real cow. And a deep dicking from your girlfriend (male).

>>11830995
What is your day-to-day life like man?

>>11830063
He is actually paid for it

>>11830098
>Sips
I'd rather eat meat at this point.

>>11822909
>Healthy
Any diet is healthy if you get the right macros and micros

>Easy
No.

>>11830451
>You should eat very little meat,
>In (((my))) opinion
>I also forgot to mention I am a vegan activist.

Don't worry we know.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11831056
Can't speak for him, but I spend my days LMAO at vegan suicides.

>>11822909
It can be healthier than the standard diet that has too much junk food, refined sugar, and results in obesity, but the healthiest diet is still going to be a balanced omnivore diet.

>>11822909
it can be but with most diets it just depends how retarded you are. If you eat carbs and sugar all day it's still vegan but unhelathy. Just like with keto you can eat blocks of cheese and bacon and still be keto but not healthy.

>>11822909
>are vegan diets healthy
Some are, some are not. Same as with nonvegan diets. Do your research.
>easy
I find it very easy. I don't have to worry about nutrition too much outside of eating fortified breakfast cereal with zinc and b12, and yellow pea protein. Otherwise, I eat a wide variety of foods. I just grab and eat everything with no animal product in it. Simple.
I avoid meat substitutes. They're disgusting.

I'll be up front. I am not a vegan, though I was one for a year. I am currently a vegetarian with no plans to ever consume meat again. Being vegan was one of most difficult and tedious choices I had ever made. I used to be fit and strong -- So much for that. I withered away that year, dropping about 30lbs of muscle and fat. I did not look emaciated, but my gains from years of working out had all but evaporated. My strength deteriorated and my happiness slowly started to fade. The first 6 months were hard. I had no idea what to eat, how to cook, how to battle my cravings, how to defend my views and values from people who just wouldn't let me do me. It was rough. But where I was coming from made it all worth it. I was strong, but overweight. I ate what I wanted, but my cholesterol and blood sugar were really fucking high. After switching to Veganism I got weaker, but healthier. I couldn't eat out with my friends without it being a hassle, but I learned how to cook at home and learned to love inventing alternatives to all the foods I could not eat anymore. Part 2 coming...

The latter 6 months of my Vegan year were way better. I knew what to cook, how to order out without being a nuisance to those I dined with, how to talk to people about the way I ate (Protip: Say less. Keep it to yourself for the most part. DONT PREACH) and how to be happy with the way I was eating. Finally after half a year my taste buds reset or something because fucking carrots tasted awesome, fruit tasted like a dessert, and most of the foods I used to love and eat all the time were converted into vegan alternatives. I knew how to make them easily and healthier, without sacrificing flavor due to my taste buds reset. That said, cheese was always my weakness. I foamed at the mouth for truffle fries and pizza and fettuccini alfredo. Etc. Nothing I could cook could come close to the flavor, so I caved. I now eat cheese and butter and some other dairy and egg products so yeah. Now I am vegetarian. If you are thinking of trying to be vegan, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST or at least be vegetarian for a year or two first or else you will fuck your shit up with poor nutrition and you'll be prone to breaking your diet due to cravings

Is sucking dick healthy?

>>11831722
Not vegan

>>11822909
Eating a whole plant based diet is very easy you just try to eat lots of whole beans/veg/fruit/nuts, eat 2-3 tbsp of ground flax seed per day, and take a B12 supplement. I've been using nutritionfacts DOT com for answers to questions and followed some youtube cooks for meal ideas. It's important to make the distinction between vegan and whole plant based diet because most of the nutrition comes from eating the whole orange or brusselsprout not just the juice or in some processed format. This guy can be kind of annoying but he uses his autism and money to concisely inform people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNY7xKyGCQ

>>11822909
On paper vegans meet all their dietary needs. I've had vegans tell me that they use Chronometer and other tools to help track their diet and so on, hell I even lived with multiple vegan roommates in uni, yet every single one of them was a super skinny skellington.
>inb4 "muh anecdotes"

>>11822909
Vegan diet is the most ethical diet.

>>11831725
How about pozz parties? I'm flirting with veganism now and made many sacrifices on what I eat, but wuddabout non oral injections? Axing for a friend btw bit that there is anything wrong with me

>>11832826
>Talks at Jewgle

Haha shoo shoo away with you

>>11832857
>Organic fruits and vegetables.

lol

>>11822934
British geneticist Tim Spector has a good book about vitamin supplements, basically most of them don't work as advertised and the only way he could find a way to get the same B12 from meat was to get a shot from a doctor every couple of months, so he decided to just eat a steak twice a month.

>>11832857

Great meme did you get that off facebook from your 64 year old uncle?

>>11822909
On psychelics you can experience altered forms of consciousness so diverse and foreign that it makes it clear that the question "what is it like to be a bat?" is both profoundly important to our perspective on our place in the universe as sentient beings, and concretely answerable.

There is something that it is like to be each animal, even bugs. There is something that it is like to be a mantis. Play with one while it states into your eyes and deny that someone is looking back at you

We know that genocide and murder is wrong, and the reason it's wrong is because of our shared moral standards based on empathy. But this empathy can be dampened and removed from us through abstraction of the meat production process. We are dead inside to the facts of what happens each time we purchase meat

Ever had a pet? What about a pet chicken? Some people have them and they are fun and loving. They have lives. Each time you buy a roasted chicken, that was a chicken just like the others that could have had nice normal lives raising their babies

Reply with smug sociopathy if you want to, but once you realize the truth it's hard to deny. That being said, it can be easy to slip back into eating murdered animal carcasses when you're in a bad mood or just stop caring about life

Do you guys have any tips for maintaining veganism over the longterm? I've recently began this and I don't want to quit because I know right now that it's the right thing, but I know that in the past I've known this as well and forgotten due to apathy and depression

>>11833359
Do it for yourself and no one else. No one wants to change. Don't try to change anyone and be an example of what your life style is capable of. Milk is in EVERYTHING so good luck sifting through the bullshit.

>>11829993
Pls respond

>>11831709
There are nowadays nondairy cheese alternatives that are absolutely worth it. For the good brands, it's like a new family of cheese. Still a bit expensive, but would totally deserve to be featured in a regular fromagerie IMO.

>>11832937
There are people with genetic defects who can't convert cyanocobalamin well, but you can get hydroxocobalamin if you look for it (same stuff as in the shots and in meat).

Perfect for womem and low test males, real men need meat.
>Inb4 muh higher test levels for 2 weeks.
Then They look like holocaust "victims" after that.

>>11824682
hmmmm

>>11830009
The ingredients are fucking tomatoes, pine nuts and basil. How am I supposed to know what arbitrary list from PETA tells me they main contain dairy

FUCK VEGANS

>>11833925
Pesto is made with cheese, I don't believe you.

>>11833359
All I heard in this epic rant was...

>I pay for CHEMICAL pesticides which are dumped on innocent wild animals in staggering numbers and I don't give the slightest fuck lol!!!! Carnists BTFO again!!

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>11833070
You like. Vegan memes bro?? Because that sounds like a request!! I'll post some of my faves, post your best emaciated vegan videos too Mr skelington??

>>11833070
My 64 year old uncle always has the best vegan memes.

Here is a hgh priest of Veganism, forgot his name, like most vegans try to forget him lol.

>Please don't notice how all the long term vegans have rotten missing teeth and look like meth addicts!!

>>11833070
I'll try to find couple more, vegan memes are so funny, thanks vegans for the lols...

>>11833070
Woops last image failed, like vegans health, sorry.

>be vegan
>people meet you
>this is what they search for after meeting you

>>11834026

>>11830375
I didnt know we talked about eating humans?

>>11822909
According to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the largest organization of food and nutrition professionals in the US: "Appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes." ... "Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements."

As far as being easy to achieve, vegan diets are pretty affordable grains, legumes, starches, vegetables and fruits are the cheapest foods on the planet and are generally pretty accessible- it's meat alternatives that are generally pretty expensive compared to meat products, although tofu is cheap as fuck.

It just requires a bit of planning but speaking from experience readjusting your palate to vegan foods you already aren't used to such as mock meats could be a hurdle depending on how picky you are. Personally I hated the taste of grain-based alternatives at first, and avoided them but after a year of being vegan I went back and tried some and didn't mind them, although I still prefer grains and vegetables, etc.

You also have to learn to cook vegan, but simple recipes are easy to find online.

>>11834400
Basically this, go vegan! I did about 2 months ago and I've honestly never felt better.

>>11834731
Whats your goal for teeth lost before you stop?

>>11833359
You ever kept chickens? I had a bunch in a coop in my yard, they got free run of the place, could leave whenever they wanted if they wanted that. I'd give them all the pasta, veggies, etc that they'd want.

Even well fed that they were, I'd still find them crowded around something in their coop once in awhile, typically a mouse, as they fought each other to tear its limps off, and if one got it theyd grab it in their beak and thrash it around until its spine broke to make sure it was dead.

I don't really feel that bad about eating chickens.

Also what about other things that are literally animals? Like barnacles? When they stop being motile and affix to a point to filter feed they literally digest their own brain. Are they unethical to eat? I don't disagree with your overall message, but it's pretty simplistic and views animals as these sweet little beings trying to live honest, loving lives.

>>11834886
this. Mice are like crack to chickens, they fucking LOVE killing them. plenty of videos up on YT of it.

>>11834910
They kill anything they can. Mine anything that wanders into their enclosure. A sparrow flew through the chicken wire one time and they tore it apart.

>>11834400

Exactly. 100% in.
And that's why vegans are so astonishingly healthy and vegans are not quitting the cult in huge numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

>>11834759
people don't actually need teeth, thats a carnist myth. you don't need teeth to drink a healthy vegan smoothie - if anything teeth get in the way and you get bits of spinach stuck in them. If you really want to chomp down on something chewy like zucchini or banana then false teeth are the ethically superior teeth.

>>11822934
>It's totally healthy guys you just need to supplement it!

lmao vegan logic.

>>11835852
>science man bad

>>11835855
what are you even talking about.

>>11835871
weak comeback bro

>>11835872
No I'm serious, I have no clue what you're talking about. Has the vegan schizophrenia already begun in you?

>>11835879
oh youre just stupid, carry on, lennie, jokey go over your head

>>11835908
>>I'm not actually a retard, I was making a joke. Yeah, that's it.

>>11835908
The joke here is you.

>>11835911
>>11835917
lol so feeble minded

>>11835871
Are you new to the internet? It’s pretty obvious the joke is that you’re a shit eating luddite.

>>11835922
>luddite
>OLD BAD
>NEW GOOD
Am I doing it right now?

>>11835930
Nope. But that’s not surprising considering your social and mental impairments.

>>11832857
That first woman isn't even vegan, retard, she's just a hippie

>>11836007
Don’t try to reason with the mentally ill. To him, facts are a confirmation that reality is conspiring against him. He has waning faculties.

>>11835852
You eat supplements all the time. Where else would you get your iodine from?

>>11835797
>huge numbers
>posts the same three people 95 times in one thread

>>11836007
>unhealthy vegans aren't the real vegans
ah the "no true scotsman" defense - the last refuge of the btfo vegan.

>>11836040
The picture doesn't even say she's a vegan, you absolute dipshit

It will either add or take 5 years off your life.

>>11836051
Are these people vegan?? The uploader could be lying, but he told me they were all vegans, fruitarians, and assorted associated nutjobs.

Vegan or not, redpill me here??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU[[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs[[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11822909
I just wanted to tell you guys that I tried a soymilk milkshake for the first time today and it legitimately tasted better than a cow milk milkshake, it was the best milkshake of my life and it wasn't even milk

There is no reason to be non-vegan.

>>11838591
Eh, I really dislike the soy taste.
I'd rather take almond 'milk' or oat 'milk', they have their own taste too but it's less distracting

And fuck off, fish and eggs are too delicious and healthy to leave out of my diet!

>>11838644
I enjoy the taste of soymilk in an iced coffee, but I prefer almond milk in a hot latte. Soymilk on its own is a little too rich, and I'd rather just drink water instead of milk or nut milk pretty much all of the time.

However, you are 100% right. Fish and eggs are so fucking amazing and there really isn't a vegan alternative that has the same texture/taste/visual appeal. Fuck the vegans, Kurt Cobain said fish don't have feelings, so I'm gonna eat fish

>>11838954
>I enjoy the taste of soymilk in an iced coffee, but I prefer almond milk in a hot latte. Soymilk on its own is a little too rich, and I'd rather just drink water instead of milk or nut milk pretty much all of the time.
I agree that soymilk can be too rich. Sometimes even almond milk can be. Generally I mix it with water, both to save money and to make it a more refreshing easy drink instead of a heavy slog

>>11838954
>However, you are 100% right. Fish and eggs are so fucking amazing and there really isn't a vegan alternative that has the same texture/taste/visual appeal. Fuck the vegans, Kurt Cobain said fish don't have feelings, so I'm gonna eat fish

Sorry friend but you're wrong, fish have complex inner lives and high degrees of intelligence

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-a-fish-knows-jonathan-balcombe/1122537841

>>11838993
You might just be fucking with me, but I may actually end up listening to this as an audiobook. I grew up autistically watching Blue Planet more than twice a month and fishing with my cousins and friends a bunch, and I never really thought about fish as having any sort of depth to them. So thanks, friend.

Also good idea with the dilution thing.

Heres a question for the veegs: You get bitten by a snake, do you accept the anti-venom?

ABSOLUTELY NOT
Everyone supporting this are experiencing brain fog, and are under severe cognitive dissonance

WATCH THE FOLLOWING AND MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
Want to rapidly age and get wrinkles? Go vegan. Notice, there is not one muscular vegan man anywhere on youtube.

>>11822960
you can say soy here I'm pretty sure. I think this is the only place on this site you can.

>>11822909
You literally cannot survive on a vegan diet without supplements.
So, no.

>>11831560
Look at this fatass omnivore

>>11834026
>meet vegan with superior ethics
>be salty because I pay for animal murder
>Google away my pain like a faggot
>find others that share my pain
>feel better because of tumblr

Just like you. Faggot.

>>11838219

>>11835797
>meat isn't unhealthy

Look at it this way:
Vegans ( the ones trying to push it hard at least) are the equivalent of the LGBT faggots you get the pleasure to see on tv / internet every day.
Arguing with mentally ill people or giving them doesn't get you too far.
to stay on topic it's got to mix a bit of everything with different portions, any other answer is just pandering to personal preferences or just forcing personal dim vision upon other people.

>>11833972
Post body

>>11830088
I can smell your Walmart trips

>>11828289
Seething obese (male) due to wishing he was healthy
Cognitive dissonance hurts huh meatcuck?

>>11839406
Excess of any kind is unhealthy. What's your point, you fag?

>>11830047
Mmmm yes feed me more meat.
MORE CHEESE

>>11839406
>meat isnt unhealthy
>woman eating an eclaire from the bakery

What kind of bait is this?

>>11839142
>>11839432
Do you not understand a quote? Are you new?

>>11822909
No. You should eat animal products. Not as much as you probably are, but still.

Eating food used to be about survival, not something you could be picky about.
I'd say eat your food, be grateful for having food and stfu.Picky pricks.

What should be discussed instead is the way animals are treated by the industry. They should go out and run under the sun and eat green grass, things a living being should enjoy... I realise it's impossible on such a big scale because muhricans can reach sometimes the sieze of a cow and gotta have more, but MAYBE the problem lies within the consumer, just my 2cents

Warning Note:All the vegans died from malnutrition and toxoplasmosis so this thread is full of meatlovers

>>11839443
Answer the question

>>11839403
>>11839406
>Pizza. Junk food. Bread.

I don't even see any meat in these pictures. 100% of your posts just prove how astonishingly dishonest leftists are. It helps you recruit more leftists into your starvation cult, (because imbecile leftists love to he lied to) but I don't see why you are wasting your time here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs [
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>11839477
There was one vegan left. The "Vegan Cheetah" but he is only alive because he was eating animal products on the sly, now he admits he has quit the cult entirely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8hjSbUfPvo

Yes now even "the Vegan Cheetah" is no longer vegan, even he quit the anorexia cult called Veganism.

>>11823373
And Goebbels will tell you how Jews are just the worse!

>>11824912
>like

>>11829993
Kombucha, sauerkraut

>>11839665
>Pepperoni isn't meat
hee-hawing retard

>>11841036
Boy, am I disappointed. I'm afraid there's nothing but inactive B12 homologues in there...

Meat is murder