/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11821207
Just stop eating, faggot

>>11821207
Just buy bags and bags of baby carrots and whenever you're hungry snack on those.

They taste good, and you can literally eat thousands of them and not gain any weight.

eat less
move more

>>11821239
I'm not really a big snacker. If I start eating, I keep eating, so I tend to eat one big satisfying meal. I can deal with the hunger feeling.

eliminate fat from diet. enjoy weight loss.

>>11821207
>"how do I eat healthy?"
>presumably an adult
Just give up if you don't have it figured out by now.

No, you should go high-cal if you want to lose weight

>>11821248
>I can deal with the hunger feeling.

You say that, but you're fat.

Snacking on fiberous no-cal foods like carrots will make you want to eat smaller main meals, which will help your overall goal.

>>11821207
1. low cal
2. Subway. Just stay away from teenage girls once you get thin and famous.

What the fuck kind of working diet is there that's not low calorie? How the fuck do you think weight loss works? And why next Monday? Why aren't you starting now? Are you some kind of weak willed faggot who keeps saying he'll start tomorrow, next week, next month?

>>11821263
>girls

>>11821259
I'm fat because I'm an alcoholic and drink 2,000 calories or more in booze every day. I'm quitting alcohol for a while and will be going on a diet to lose weight to go on it. I'm also not "fat," but I could stand to lose some weight.

6'0, 190.

>>11821269
People always talk about keto or Atkins as a great diet that's worked for them. I have a friend who has lost 63 lbs on Keto/Intermittent Fasting.

>>11821269
Also, I'm starting next Monday because I have Super Bowl plans to drink, and know that once football is over, it'll be a lot easier for me to take months away from drinking.

I have to set firm goals or I keep making excuses about why this or that is important, and I can drink this night or that night, until I give up and drink every night.

>>11821212
This. Remember to keep your sodium and potassium levels up.

>>11821207
>next Monday
yeah, right.

>>11821412
Cool. Instead of not believing me, can we just talk about the topic at hand?

>>11821207
>Going on a diet next Monday
That's what they all say. You say it's because of the Superb owl but after that passes you'll make up something else. We have this thread daily.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

i eat bacon and eggs, duck, pork belly, ribeye and tonnes of fruit. i make literally no effort to eat less than i'd like.
i've lost 56lbs in 7 months.
same concept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLF29w6YqXs

>>11821426
>http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/
Thanks for this, I really appreciate the advice.

Unfortunately I'm not much of a cook and struggle with free time, and it seems this is pretty regimented. That's why I'm leaning low-cal, I can always guarantee I'm counting the right calories when I go somewhere.

>>11821416
dont do it "next monday" because that will turn into the monday after that, just fucking start, and just eat less, seriously. at the beginning of july i was 275lbs and said i was going to eat less to lose weight, i have, and am currently 215lbs, on my way to my 175 goal. literally just eat less

>>11821478
I'm seriously going to begin then. I have done this before. I'm not going to miss major Super Bowl plans with my friends, though. Remember, this is about alcoholism more than diet... I need to be ready for potential treatment and withdrawals. My doctor and I agreed on a date together.

>>11821493
>I'm not going to miss major Super Bowl plans with my friends, though
then you are literally never going to succeed in your diet if you cant change your lifestyle. either go all in or dont go in faggot

>>11821493
>muh alcoholism
fuck off cunt

You got insurance? The best place to ask would be at your clinic, preferably with a doctor that you see regularly and who knows you somewhat.

Other than that, it's both eating less than you are burning off, and eating foods that give you enough so you are not too tired to burn calories.

You also have to eat more than one or two large meals a day so that your body will get out of starvation mode and keep holding onto fat.

>>11821496
My lifestyle is going to have to change. Again, what's the point of telling me "waaaaaah start now" instead of just telling me I need to start now? I'm obviously still asking for advice and need to learn how to things right. If I cut off booze RIGHT NOW because the internet told me so, and I go into convulsions tomorrow at work, it'll be fucking stupid.

I'm starting in a week. Any help to offer? I'm well aware my lifestyle is going to have to change. It will begin changing next week.

>>11821517
if youre THAT much of an alcoholic, wherein a single fucking day without drinking would cause you to die, then weight loss is the least of your problems, and you REALLY need to get a hold of your vices

>>11821517
>If I cut off booze RIGHT NOW because the internet told me so, and I go into convulsions tomorrow at work,

>>11821517
Sorry, I meant "instead of just telling me what I can do to get better."

>>11821513
Unfortunately I can't make it to a clinic for dietary advice. My former, now retired doctor, is offering to help me with the alcohol stuff and keep an eye out over a few days.

Everything I've read about "starvation mode" has conflicting advice though.

>>11821517
literally the worst symptoms recovering alcoholics have is irritability, sweating, increased heartrate, and shit like that, you wont fucking die if you stop drinking you tard

>>11821522
I don't think it will, I have stopped before, but my doctor is advising me to taper and wants to keep an eye out for me. I'm looking to go on a diet while I cut out the alcohol.

I'm very aware I need to cut this off, which is why I'm doing it. I have drank 10+ drinks a day with the exception of a few short breaks for almost 15 years.

>>11821538
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delirium_tremens
Seizures and death, bro.

>>11821538
meanwhile in the real world where adults live, alcohol is one of the very few drugs for which withdrawal can and does kill. it's more dangerous to stop than meth, crack, heroin and just about anything else you care to mention. you are an idiot and you do not know what you're talking about. google it and hang your humiliated head in shame.

>>11821294
>I'm fat because I'm an alcoholic and drink 2,000 calories or more in booze every day
So you drink 5 litres of beer or 3-4 bottles pf wine a day and ask for dier advice?

These sort of "hurr durr I'm so self destructive but I'll ask for advice about a tangent topic" threads on /ck/ is fucking shit.

>>11821530
>>11821538
fuck off 12yo samefag. your 3-beer-hangover is irrelevant to grown ups.

>>11821538
I'm not OP nor am I defending his laziness, but DTs can happen (if rarely) and include convulsions at the onset. It's unlikely even if he consumes a retarded amount of alcohol, but within the realm of possibility.

>>11821553
If you bothered to read the thread, I am quitting alcohol and going into treatment. As I do that, I want to go on an easier diet that makes me lose the weight the booze put on.

But it's obvious no one is going to actually give any advice, so I shouldn't have posted.

>>11821535
Ah, well then probably best to just pay close attention to your body and see what types of food and meal sizes make you feel good or bad.

All weight loss diets are low(er) "cal".

>>11821562
What the fuck makes you think you need to cut down on calories more than 2000 from the booze a day?
>>11821294
You say it here your fatness is due to drinking issues. Why did you make this thread?

>>11821577
It's mostly due to that. But I also don't always eat the best when I'm drunk and just ordering food in, or picking something up on the way home.

I made the thread so I could figure out if something like keto or another diet could work more efficiently for me, as opposed to just looking at the back of a package and staring down the calories. That, and looking for places that make good food that aren't calorie packed. Like, does Whole Foods have some awesome stuff I don't know about? Does TGI Fridays have a good low-cal menu I could use?

Instead it's just people shitting on me for not starting today for some reason.

>>11821207
>Also, where's the easiest place for me to get low calorie foods
The grocery store, you fat fuck.
>I have limited ability to cook for myself
Eggs are GOAT diet food. It is almost impossible to fuck up an egg. If you are an adult and can't do this, you might as well just keep eating processed garbage and die off already.

>>11821655
I understand I can get it at the grocery store, but then I have to cook all of my own meals, which is a pain in the ass because of my work situation and living situation.

>Eggs
An egg is 78 calories and isn't very filling. I mean... 3 eggs, with nothing else? That's nearly a third of the day's calories. A much larger chicken breast is a lot less than that...

>>11821655
>3 eggs
>That's nearly a third of the day's calories
you what

I've lost 23 pounds since jan 1, still a fatty though.
Boring as it may sound I started to count (using that veeery loosely) calories and downloaded a pedometer.
I don't actually try to measure calories exactly, but I keep under 2000 calories a day, and always round up.
Getting snacky in the evening is probably the toughest but I make sure to have very little at home that's unhealthy, and if I do, it's always something that gets boring very fast (e.g. popcorn or pretzels).

>>11821591
Mexican food.

I have always felt comfortably full and energetic after eating at a good Mexican restaurant, and they are usually cheap too.

>>11821688
Eggs are full of the types of vitamins that give you enough. Don't knock it till you try it man, and they will fill you up pretty good, especially if you put it in something like a salad.

Eating at a caloric deficit is all that is required. If you're working out stick to more protein in your macros. You don't need to do some dumb shit like cut out muh carbs because fruits are bad. Learn to cook for yourself.

>>11821712
Energy*

>>11821688

Where do you get your choline from then?

>>11821688
>I have to cook all of my own meals
And?
>which is a pain in the ass because of my work situation and living situation.
Terrible excuses. Frying an egg takes maybe 5 minutes. Preparing chicken and vegetables, maybe 15. If you care at all about your body, which is usually the motivation behind deciding to go on a diet in the first place, you'd best start caring about what you put into it.
>3 eggs, with nothing else? That's nearly a third of the day's calories.
(You)

>>11821207
Just fast.

>>11821692
Sorry, if you're on a diet, like a deficiency. Around 1200 calories.

>>11821708
I'm not this stupid.

>>11821712
Not insane, I can try it.

>>11821716
Cooking for myself is one of the problems. Dishes are always dirty in my house, because my roommate and I have opposite schedules. It gets to a cycle of "clean these before I eat and then again after I eat." Considering I don't know how to cook and he does, I'm more apt to just let him use them.

>>11821724
I don't know what choline is.

>>11821738
See the above for the cooking issue. I don't know how and it's tough to keep the supplies clean in the first place. I don't mind paying more somewhere for someone to do it for me, while keeping the dishes clean for my roommate.

>>11821759
>I'm not this stupid.

Dude, what? Have you not eaten good Mexican food with whole beans and rice, soft tortillas and home-made salsas?

It's not stupid if it's a good restaurant, it's healthy food.

Don't let the multiple asshole anons make you so angry you lose your common sense man.

And guys, it's OP again, I know this is a lot of restrictions I'm putting out here, and it's too late to get good advice, I just really want to know how to make the best out of the situation.

If I'm not going to cook at home much, what are my best options to go low calorie is really my question.

>>11821771
A dish of rice and beans is like 700 calories. Guaranteed fattiness.

>>11821775
Just eat one meal a day and keep it low-carb.

>>11821775
If you're going to eat out, then you just have to find healthy food like this:
>>11821771
Anon said.

Just get something healthy on the menu, or go to Subway and get lean meats with veggies.

If you happen to be in a gas station, grab fruit instead of coffee.

>>11821759
> I don't know how
This is where YouTube is your friend.
>it's tough to keep the supplies clean in the first place.
You've convinced yourself that this is the case; it's really not that hard. Washing dishes is a minor inconvenience. You're just being lazy and you know it.
>I don't mind paying more somewhere for someone to do it for me, while keeping the dishes clean for my roommate.
That's silly on both counts.

>>11821782
Anon.... certain foods help you burn energy more effiently, you can't JUST look at the calories. You have to think of what's going to help your body burn more calories.

Yes it's a lot, but if you haven't eaten way over your limit that day, it's a healthy meal.

>>11821783
This works, one meal a day is enough. It's also enough for ketosis to start so your body starts to burn fat instead of sugar for energy.

>>11821759
>Sorry, if you're on a diet, like a deficiency. Around 1200 calories.
if you're 6'0, 1200 is fucking overkill. 1800 will put you at 1 lb/wk. You'll also drop a ton of water weight and bloating from cutting back on the alcohol.

>>11821207
stop eating sugar and reduce portions. dont restrict. you're going fail if you start restricting certain foods.

>>11821783
Thanks, I might try this.

>>11821793
Also thanks, I'm just trying to figure out places I can find that provide this. In the past I've gotten like, a salmon burrito from Rubios. 800 calories, still enough room for maybe a taco. But I need more ideas.

>>11821796
It's not just dishes, it's pots and pans and whatever else is needed - and a lot of times I come home to find dishes unclean. So then I'm cleaning beforehand too.

>>11821803
Valid, but I don't know what foods help to burn calories. That's why I'm here asking people who know.

>>11821812
Thanks, keto might have to be what I do too.

>>11821834
1 lb/week isn't enough. But I get what you're saying, maybe I'll come out somewhere in the middle.

I have done this before and have lost a lot of weight. I'm looking for ways to make it better/healthier though. Thanks to the people who are helping.

>>11821696
>23lbs in 27 days
>still eating during that time
How fat are you?

>>11821896
>It's not just dishes, it's pots and pans and whatever else is needed - and a lot of times I come home to find dishes unclean. So then I'm cleaning beforehand too.
That's typically what happens when you live with people. Welcome to the world where you have to do things like a functioning adult. Once again: your excuses boil down to laziness. If this is the mindset you attack a diet with, I can guarantee you won't last a week.
If this is still too much for you to understand, then literally just eat less. Congratulations, weight loss.
>1 lb/week isn't enough.
1lb/week is healthy weight loss. Depending on how fat you are, it could potentially be more than 1lb/week due to water weight, and your oversized body working in overdrive performing normal tasks without you shoveling food into it every 10 minutes. If you aren't looking at this from with long-term perspective, you won't be successful.

I eat mussels, a bowl of spinach, and 2 bananas per day. Keeping it around 800 calories and I'm losing a few pounds a week.

>>11821212
This, >>>/fast/

>>11821294
Yeah, keto and IF don't magically make you lose weight if you're still eating above your TDEE, you fucking retard

Diets don't actually work. Just listen to your body.

>>11821994
Confirmed for not reading the thread, again.

Reading through this thread dampened my evening a little bit. I'm going to tell myself this thread is bait because no one can be this retarded.

>>11821933
I'm 250 pounds now, so I have a lot of dieting to do. want to get down to 200 before I start working out.

>>11821207
Don't listen to the low cal posters. You really wanna lose weight, do low carb. Hell, do carnivore for best results; can personally attest to how easy and safe it is.

I lost 31 pounds in 3 months, never hungry or weak or fatigued. The only times I counted calories was after realizing I hadn't eaten nearly enough despite experiencing no hunger. Didn't even exercise at all aside from an hour of light walking for transit daily.

And I wasn't going from 300 to 270, which would have been all water weight. It was 189 to 158.

dude if you stop drinking, stop eating complex carbs and do even the tiniest amount more exercise than normal, it's nothing short of fucking scary how fast (in my experience) you'll lose weight. i can suddenly feel bones i never even knew i had, since doing what i describe. i've had to buy a new wardrobe 3 times in 6 months.

>>11821562
Low carb makes alcohol just taste awful. Not sure if that would stop you, but I found that out firsthand after five shots had me vomiting all night when previously I could put away 12+ no problem.

Why do people go on fad diets when we've had the food pyramid forever? Just follow this and eat less.

>>11822045
It doesn't taste awful, at least not to me, but I sure can't drink as much as I used to, I get drunk pretty fast, now

>>11821207

just live off simple soups. fuckin chop some broccoli and celery and boil it with salt. you can eat a lot until you're stuffed, but it's like 100 caloreis.

>>11822092
massive increases in auto immune diseases, obesity, disease, suffering and premature death, masses of which are being proven to be cured by diet?
the food pyramid is fucking farcical, put together by bloody farmers not doctors. ridiculous.

op, you're going to know a hunger like never before if you're an alck who's about to quit. my appetite was in-fucking-satiable for a month at least. just fuck off the complex carbs, survive on meats and fruits. so many people have asserted to their docs, for so many years, that this approach is unbelievably helpful, that at long last there are proper clinical trials going on to determine once and for all whether it works.

it does. read the hundreds of thousands of testimonials online, and read the results of this in 6 months...

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT03058679

>>11821250
Literally the worst thing to do. Reducing carbohydrate intake to below 20g/day is the most effective diet plan.

>>11821263
>teenage girls
too old

>>11822209
>Literally the worst thing to do.
agreed. reducing fat almost always means increasing carbs/sugar/AIDS.

>>11821250
imagine actually believing this

>>11822233
>that panicked reaction when he knows he's been caught, like his entire world is crashing down in the span of mere seconds

>>11822092
>just follow the (outdated) food pyramid
>6-11 servings of cereals and grains

>>11821207
>even considering giving a meme diet the time of day
>pic related

Literally the only diet that matters is cal counting. Everything else is retarded bullshit. Eat what you want and stay under 1500 or 1000.
Make an excel sheet and write down everything you eat and how many cals they are you lazy fuck.

>>11821207
find out your TDEE, eat 1/3 of it

>>11821538
Sorry. Had a friend die from DT's at the ripe old age of 32.

>>11822509
This, there are calulators online

You can lose weight and eat whatever you want. You just gotta put your fingers at the back of your throat every time you eat and throw it up. My friend lost 130lbs this way.

>>11821538
It depends on how bad your alcoholism is.
If you just drink once a day you can probably quit cold turkey and be fine but if you literally drink all day everyday you will fuck yourself up if you quit too fast.
There's a guy who was chronicling his quitting and he went way too fast and he now has a permanent blind black spot in his vision.

>>11822760
How can you go that fast without your body warning you?
We see people talking about inability to sleep, the shakes, anxiety all the time

>>11822778
He was really determaned to quit and just assumed everything he was experiencing was normal detox.
It took that sudden blind spot to realize that maybe reducing the number of shots he drinks in a day by 1 every day is too fast.
He ignored everyone who told him to slow down too as a sort of "I can kick this I'm not week willed, I don't need to go slow." thing.
He was quick to admit how wrong he was and after a doctors trip he started a more reasonable multimonth plan instead of his two week plan.

>>11822809
How many shots a day was he up to?

>>11822817
I don't remember how many he was down to when the blinding happend, would have to find his videos.
But he started at like 21 or 22 since that's the amount he'd normally drink in a day.

>>11822817
It was 7 shots a day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpxVLriJaA

>>11822867
> 7 shots a day
Amateur. Let me know when you get up to a 5th/day.

>>11822881
>He can't do math
He started at 22, that's a litre
He took one away a day, 22-16=6
So he was at 7 after cutting from over a fifth

>>11822928
I get it, anon. I don't think you understood me.

>>11822867
Here's a video of him explaining what the blind spot is like complete with outline of it for visual effect for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6meZ2VkX08

Always get professional help if you want to kick an addiction like alcohol folks.

>>11821207
>next monday
why aren't you starting now?
>Should I go low-cal, or pick some other kind of diet?
is this bait? the only way you will lose weight is by eating less calories

/fit/ has a thread or fatties trying to lose weight. the OP is a bretty good start >>>/fit/49338126

>>11821207

>>11822002
Where's the correct option where I show a modicum of discipline toward reaching my weight loss goal and don't eat a cookie or snack at all?

>>11821207
>Next Monday
If you actually wanted it you'd start today.

>>11821207
Cut out sugary drinks and alcohol and just have smaller portions with moderate fat, moderate carbs and moderate protein. Have spices instead of sauces/gravy.

>>11822928
I didn't know the threshold to start getting DTs was that low. Used to drink 10-12/day and was still able to quit cold turkey with just some anxiety and insomnia for a few days.

>>11822999
Scary

>>11822760
>permanent blind black spot in his vision.
heh. same. except it's the entirety of my left eye and one quadrant of my right, i woke up one morning and couldn't see, now my vision is ruined for life. in 2012 i was averaging 6 new irreparable brain lesions every 6 months iirc, shown by MRI scans. still didn't stop boozing. in fact thinking i was going blind made me drink more.

>>11821207
Combine low-cal, carbohydrate, and IMF. Start with EC stack to help mellow hunger and cravings. Do your hobby, or get a new one. Stick with it for a month, drop the EC, gradually add in carbs, keep low at around 60g/day. Stick to around 1200/cal a day, eaten in one meal.

>>11821207
Just count calories. Here is a calculator that will tell you how much to eat, and you can set how many pounds you want to lose weekly. As long as you burn more calories than you take in, you will lose weight. Also, use a calorie tracking app. I use Myfitnesspal, and it works pretty well.

https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/

>>11823022
>>11823624
Read the thread about starting. I have a big event planned and I'd be foolish to start it before then, since I know I'll want to cheat on everything. Best to start with a dead zone area of my life where there won't be too much going on to tempt me into breaking any of my plans.

To stay away from booze and poor eating for a while, I'm going to have to shut myself off from almost all socialization for a few months. And then slowly work in habits I can maintain in the future.

>>11824718
Thanks, this is a good call. What's IMF?

>>11824938
I normally just track on a piece of paper, but I only plan to eat once or twice a day, so it's not very hard. Since I'm not a snacker, that's the easy part.

>>11825039
I really don't have any kind of advice to give on the subject but... I genuinely hope things play out for you. Specially the booze thing. I don't drink but I have a friend who does a lot.
Good luck anon

>>11821239
Won't you get constipated though

>be 6' 210 lardass
>maintain 1500kcal diet for over a month
>cheated and went 2200kcal last wednesday
>gained 4 pounds since last week

>>11821207
I find a "healthy diet" to be much harder to follow than not just eating for 2 weeks and dropping in weight like a rock then be done with it. If you are a real fatty you probably want to take it slow though.

>>11821250
Eliminate oil, not fat. Nuts/seeds etc are good for you but oil provides no nutrition, and is the most calorie dense food on earth. Eliminate sugar and processed flour as well

>>11825508
That's why the very low carbohydrate diets which shakes work for some people too. Shame they are so fucking expensive.

>>11825255
They're rich in fiber so no.

>>11821207
Don't go on a diet, faggot. Do actionable, sustainable and positive changes to the way you eat. The whole "on a diet" concept sort of implies you'll stop it once you reach some target weight or some shit, and you'll be back to square one before you know it.

>>11825569
>Eliminate oil, not fat
what? All oils are fats. And whether or not they provide nutrition depends on their source, not whether or not they are an "oil" or a "fat". Freshly rendered animal fat like lard or tallow, or virgin plant oils, both contain vitamins and minerals in addition to fat. Refined oils and processed lard, tallow, etc, have their nutritious content removed.

>>11825283
Body water content and poo can make a very significant difference. You should probably weigh youself every morning after using the restroom, for more consistent measurements.

>>11825039
Ah, the good ol "we absolutely have to drink to socialize" friends. I always lose weight when I'm living abroad, and far from them. I always gain if I go back and hang out with them.

One of them literally fattens up most people who hang out with him. It's like a super power. He is a charismatic guy with an unhealthy lifestyle that sticks to people. I once saw a QT 50 kg chick put like 5 kg in two months after staying with him lol.

Just go vegan or veggie you dink. Fat bastards can't be trusted with meat.

here. congratulations, you are now thin and healthy.

Low carb + IF (do all your eating in a 8-10 hour window). Calorie counting is boomer tier.

>>11821207
Dumb motherfucker you just need to input less Kcal than you need, this is how you lose weight.
No one cares which fucking diet you choose fucking american.

>>11825610
Essential fatty acids start going rancid fast, virgin or not. Much better to eat them as a whole food.

>>11825715
You still have to count your calories and track your macros even if you do this, you won't lose weight if you keep eating like a pig

eat only celery

part of my patented celery only diet

>>11821239
shit advice. pic related
>>11825715
good advice

>>11821207
One thing people dieting forget is to drink water. Taking small sips of water throughout the day will seriously help you curb your hunger. The first three days will be the worst, but after that it will get much easier. Just hang in there.

>>11825605
>Don't diet, change lifestyle

I need to cleanse from the alcohol for a bit, but I don't know if I can quit it forever. I've been working with a therapist who actually thinks I shouldn't, as it is my main social outlet. My hope is to quit for a while and then give myself sustainable goals with the booze.

If I'm not drinking every day, my normal diet will be fine. The diet is literally to get the maximum benefit of the weight loss while away from alcohol. Even if I fail and start to drink again, at least I'll be 20+ lbs lighter doing it.

>>11825631
>Ah, the good ol "we absolutely have to drink to socialize" friends. I always lose weight when I'm living abroad, and far from them. I always gain if I go back and hang out with them.

Yeah, unfortunately I'm probably the guy who pushes them the most. I have a lot of friend groups, and I cycle around to most of the drinking events. Everyone has a great time doing that. I struggle to find much that's fun to do that doesn't involve drinking. It's almost exclusively some kind of exercise. There's the occasional dinner or bowling, but they're always something that also is appropriate for drinking.

I wish I didn't LIKE drinking, it would make life so much easier. Some people feel pressured into doing it, and begrudgingly go along with it, but I never feel hungover and such.

>>11826156
I'll be eating tons of carrots, cauliflower, and broccoli. That's my jam.

>>11826207
Yep, big water drinker.

Low carb is good, fatties like myself usually take in more carbs than anything else because they're simple and easy to get to for the most part.
Keto will do wonders, and you can still drink vodka which will get you blasted cause low carb = high drunkness.
Don't count calories, you're not skinny enough to count calories, fat fucks just need to eat less period.

Dieting skin dude with a beer belly. I'm cutting off pretty much all booze but i love drinking too much. Is Gin and Vodka okay if you cut pretty much better and cocktail sugar bombs?

>>11821207
Any diet that isn’t low calorie will not work, it’s physically impossible. You can eat whatever you want to so that you can fit into whichever group of mouth breathers you like, diets all work because they restrict calories.
Good news! They all work at the same speed too, so it doesn’t even matter which meme you base your identity around.
Now surely everyone is retarded and will say words like “insulin” “carbs” “protein” “fat” “keto” “burning” “starvation” etc. they’re all meaningless for weight loss. Completely meaningless. If you didn’t know any of those words existed, and just knew about calories, you would lose weight exactly as they do if you ate the same number of calories. Regardless of how hard they stuck to their cult’s guidelines.

>>11826378
>Low carb is good, fatties like myself usually take in more carbs than anything else because they're simple and easy to get to for the most part.
Yes, when you have an attitude of removing carbs from your diet you just lose so much extra calories that didn't satiate you and that you really didn't need. Its easier when go zero carbs because then you wont have to question "what if I just take a little bit" and get tempted each time to add more sweetness because what does it hurt.

Fast

>>11821207
Low-cal because it allows you to eat whatever you like but within limit which will help you learn self control and that's ultimately what's most important if you not only wanna lose weight but keep it off.

>>11821207
If your calories in isn't lower then your calories out, you will not lose weight. Simple physics.

>>11821207
low carb, 5:2 and IF (1-2 meals in 8 h window, 16h fasting)
calorie counting only needs to be done very roughly, be careful with eggs though and make sure you are on at least a minus 1000kcal deficit every eating day, that means consuming 1000-1500kcal a day, your weekly defecit should be minus 10000 kcal which would mean burning slightly more than a kilo a week, probably more as fatasses consume more energy than the 2000 average because of your physical size assumed that you do not lay on the bed all day.
Do not think about hitting the gym and try to build muscles until you hit at least 30 bmi, light to intensive cardio is good though the more the better.

>>11826743
Thanks! My BMI is already 26. From the advice in here, I think I'm going to count calories to stay between 1000 and 1200, and then go low carb too. Something like under 20g a day. After some time, I'll bump that up to 60g.

I might try that stack as mentioned before, and I'll do some workouts with body weight, dumbbells, and the exercise bike.

>>11825715
>(do all your eating in a 8-10 hour window)
this isnt fasting
its skipping breakfast

>>11826743
also if you really feel like eating a carb heavy meal once in a while then set a given day every one or two weeks but do not exceed the 2000 kcal mark, you need to at least break even on your calorie consumption/burning ratio evem on those days.
To give yourself a certain day can be a curse for some but a good thing for others, better to have control in advance over which day you will enjoy a couple of slices of pizza or a hamburger or your moms home cooked meal/eating with friends than falling for the temptation on a day you are supposed to stick to your diet.
Also no sweets whatsoever, no sugar can be consumed other than tiny amounts in some almost unavoidable products.
When you are on a low carb diet your blood sugar will be much more stable so the cravings for sweets and snacks you feel now will go away which is an amazing feeling, treat yourself to a diet soda once in a while if you want but do not drink it every day.
Also no alcohol.

>>11821207
>next Monday
And then that will turn into next next Monday. And then the next next next Monday.
Start dieting now.

>>11826815
They can do vodka if they really need a drink.

>>11826840
alcohol has carbs dumb fuck
even liquor
>uhhhh look at the bottle!!!!
alcohol is processed for energy before anything else is because it's POISON. you aren't in keto when you're processing alcohol just like you wouldn't be when processing carbs. it's just as bad.

>>11826826
OP hasn’t even figured out his diet yet. Stop complaining.

>>11826840
>>11826851
yes, drinking alcohol stunts weight loss badly, you neither burn of what you eat or the fat on your body as your body prioritizes getting that stuff processed, it is best to avoid it altogether.
A social gathering once or twice a month should be okay if you really want to but no casual drinking, especially not beer, ciders or wine. Straight vodka or gin or with some diet soda if you are so inclined should be the best option if you cannot escape from the fermented jew at certain times.

>>11826815
I don't plan on any cheat days. Too easy to start excusing them and jumping through the hurdles of mental math, like "well, my last cheat day was three days ago, but if I have a cheat day today and then don't have it for 7 days, it'll work out, right?"

Nah, I'll stick to what I have now. Also, I don't like sweets, so we're good there. Or snacks. The hardest thing to control is going to be the alcohol, but it's why the house will be clear of booze.

Why not on the diet soda? In the past I've had it to replace that need to reach over and drink a beer that I constantly have.

>>11826920
Diet soda once in a while is okay but overdrinking it as in drinking 1-2 litres every day over the span of a few hours is not good for the fastest results, there are some things pointing to it effecting your blood sugar causing you to not burn your fat reserves as effectively as they could

>>11826945
That's really good to know. Maybe I'll wean off the soda after the first couple of weeks. The diet is less important than cutting the booze off overall, though. I may have to stick with the soda for the sake of limiting my cravings for a bit.

>>11826851
relax you stupid piece of shit, what the fuck is your damage, cunt

>>11826977
It is not conclusive but some of the keto-buffs that keep statistics on their blood sugar have conducted some experiments and it looks like it effects it, agreed still much better than beer it is just not optimal, diet soda is a tool even body builders use to control their cravings

>>11826977
you're taking advice from someone that doesn't know how to spell

>>11827000
I am good at other things, ask your mother about it she knows what I am talking about

>>11821207
Eat what u want . Start watch fitness video . first enjoy urself .

>>11821207
Losing 5kg a week would be pretty easy.
Just:
>Stop drinking alcohol and soda
>Drink water and tea instead
>Stick to your three meals a day, no snacks.
>Oats for breakfast
>Salad and some lean protein for lunch
>Meat & 3veg for dinner
>Make sure your meals are all normal amounts, not fatcunt amounts. Aim for 500-600kcal a meal.
>Start the "couch to 5k" to get your general fitness and metabolism up
>Start lifting
Congrats, you'll shit out 5kg a week easily.
The reason most people are fat is just
>Alcohol/soda consumption
>Snacking
>Eating too much at meal times
You don't need to eat weird expensive hipster shit.

>>11821562
You'll crave carbs your first week after quitting the drink, and might be tough to fall asleep first night or two. Just take up a hobby that'll keep your kind off of drinking

>>11821207
Replace a lot of your diet with fat. This includes just eating fatty foods. Cut refined carbohydrates. Eat only when you are actually hungry. Otherwise just fast.

>>11821275
lol

>>11821207
Cut out the pure junk/drinks and do intermittent fasting.

>>11829537
>>11821207
Then once your insulin and hunger pangs start getting better, reduce the eating interval until you're literally on one meal a day. Eat a lot more veg and healthy fats.

>>11823308
Lifestyle changes. "Diets" don't work, lifestyle changes do.

I recommend eating better quality foods that are nutritious and filling and coupling that with some form of intermittent fasting + exercise.

>>11822002
spoken like either a thinlet or a true hamplanet

>>11821207
There's this new recvolutio ary high-cal diet. It relies on immediately doubling your calorie intake to shock you body into realizing that there is more than enough food to go around. Since we are smart creatures the body will adapt to a life with abundance and not use any more than is absolutely needed.

>Decide to stop being a fatass
>Quit eating out and stopped drinking soda
>Eat healthy foods, not following any fad diets
>Weight just falls off
It's like magic, once I started working out it got even better.

>>11826798
and skipping breakfast is what fat people do anyway.

>>11829619
for me I just had to stop drinking milkshakes and eating chips.
I mean I counted calories as well but I found chips and milk drinks were the majority of my intake, I just ate what I wanted and I'd always be well under my calories burned for the day regardless.

>>11826798
It's good for building willpower. Was able to quit snacking doing it. Though you should go OMAD after doing IF for a bit.

>>11821207
>next Monday

You are going to fail. For Christ's sake you aren't even starting till next week.

Fatty.

>>11821294
>I'm quitting alcohol for a while

Why not forever?

Idiot.

>>11826903
He's asking strangers on the internet while there's a war between Ketofags and CICOfags. He's never gonna make it.

>>11821207
I lost 100 pounds over 3 years after being fat all my life, now I'm the only skinny person in my family and it all started when I got food poisoning and couldn't eat without throwing up for 3 days.

I realized afterwards that I didn't have to eat 3 meals a day if I wasn't hungry, like before this happened I had this weird headspace that I had to eat 3 times a day and that's just the way things were, but if you think about it the human body didn't evolve with 3 meals a day, 10,000 years ago a human would have been lucky to get even 1 meal a day, it makes no sense that it would be unhealthy for humans to have to eat 3 meals a day, we would have evolved that weakness away a long ass time ago.

When I realized this I began skipping breakfast, after a while I began to not even feel hungry for lunch and the weight just started dropping, nowadays I only eat one meal day and maybe some small snacks.

There's my weight loss blog post, hope it helps.

tldr: eat less

>>11830062
Not sure if I can handle it without losing my friends and putting undue strain on my job where a major part of my role is maintaining relationships with vendors in the world's biggest party city.

The day I tell my bosses I can't drink or be in drinking situations because I'm an alcoholic is the day they start finding my replacement.

>>11826615
That's actually sound advice, easier to eat 0 cookies than 1

>>11829564
Overeating only weeks for weight loss on like 1 meal a week. For 2 months now if snake fast for 7 days, eat a huge omelet platter extra cheese and bacon, my weight shoots up 5 lbs then goes down 13-15

>>11830252
Yep, and its way more difficult to stuff fatty foods down your throat because you literally dont feel like eating it after a while. You feel like waiting until you're hungry before eating more.

>>11830252
OP here again. This is why I stick to one meal instead of snacking. I can treat it as a reward for the hard work, rather than my body asking me to continuously cram shit into it so I never actually full or hungry.

>>11825686
where da hot pockets at???

Advice for someone who's in a healthy weight range but puts fat on their belly? I'm a twig except around the mid-rif. 78kg/182cm.

>>11824683
holy shit. I knew alcohol was fucked but I didn't know all this could happen just from drinking so much. insane. Glad I only drink 1-3 times a year.

>>11831998
Increase Calcium and Vitamin D intake, decrease saturated fat intake, decrease refined carb intake (and high GI food in general). If you can stomach it, go keto.

Mostly stop drinking non diet soda.

>>11832218
*stop drinking soda
ftfy

>>11822002
>"Just eat 1 coookie bro"
must not be an american..

>>11821207
1. Stop eating crap (pop, candy, etc)
2. drink 2L of water every day
3. Eat a wide variety of foods, ensure enough protein and fat. Diversity is good.
4. Don't over eat (target calories ~15% below maintenance level)
5. do a 36 hour fast at least once a month
6. do cardio and weight lifting (variety and full body/ less targeted exercises is good)
7. stop drinking alcohol (i personally find this one difficult)
8. ensure you get a healthy amount of high quality sleep daily

>>11832171
yeah no joke. drink from morning to night daily and your entire body will be irreparably damaged, my brain is filled with lesions.
it sounds worse than it is, but only because you're so much stronger emotionally than you think. when something serious happens, it's just like, the new norm and you shrug it off and drink more. i know a dude who lost his left leg to heroin. he still uses.