/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11782132
milenialls and zoomers wouldn't know quality if it bit them in the face. They've been raised on industrial slop thanks to their lazy and/or inept boomer parents so that's what they're not only used to, but happy to eat.

>>11782139
Yeah buddy, must be nice having a broken dick and receding hairline

Here in San Diego Ramen shops actually are a thing depending on where you go around the city. There's a ton out by montegomery airfield and balboa avenue

>>11782132
They have, though.

>>11782132
>zoomers
>being able to afford more than $.39 for ramen

>>11782148
debatable

>>11782148
They haven't in my state.

>>11782132
Ramen is popular because it's cheap- no one wants to pay $15 for "real" ramen when they could buy a large quantity of better food for that price

>>11782132
Because you live in some flyover shithole and coast trends don't reach you for at least 10 years, if ever.

>>11782132
They have. Move out of the fucking sticks.

>>11782220
I live in fucking Massachusetts. Not exactly a flyover state.

>>11782132
Because no one eats (packaged) ramen because they like it. They eat it because it's cheap as fuck.

>>11782229

>>11782132
Because ramen is overrated and only orientals genuinely like them. Due to Japan's culturally prestige, weebs and those alike would convince themselves that ramen taste good because after all, how can something made by glorious nippons be bad? It's all just placebos.

>>11782229
Unless you're living in the middle of nowhere you're still wrong. I'm from Mass and there's literally two or three ramen places within a couple blocks of me

>>11782132
American automobile culture will never let them be as common place as 6 on the same block like in japan’s cities, but both of the Midwest cities I’ve lived in had a couple ramen places that were decent.

>>11782132
Ramen restaurants do exist in the west but they are uncommon and almost exclusive to large cities and even then they suffer from the same problem nearly all foregin cuisine in america suffers which is being run by hipsters that feel they need to reinvent everything into some trendy fusion bullshit, so instead of getting basic staples like miso ramen or pork belly ramen you get shit like enchilada ramen or peanut butter wonton ramen.

>>11782132
They have. I'm in the midwest and there are three within 10 miles of my home

>>11782132
you must be a flyover.

>>11782132
They have over here

Its only a staple food because they cost less than a dollar at the grocery store. Putting it in a restaurant would make it cost too much for any poor collegefag.

>>11782229
i'm not sure why ramen hasn't made it up to new england, it's common in nj/ny

>>11782132
It's extremely easy to cook at home. This is a cooking board, now talk about cooking and not shitty dollar ramen and shit restaurant ramen.

Anybody have any ramen recipes? Any secret ingredients/hacks?

>>11782567
This.
However, only one of the ones by me are authentic.

>>11782132
it's getting there. there's a bunch of popular ramen places where i live. all run by white dudes tho

i don't like pasta/noodles, though. granted i could probably see myself falling for a place that serves hearty soups with an emphasis on presentation. maybe they could sub the noodles for fancy-cut potatoes or zoodles

Nobody eats that, don't know how it became a meme, store noodles and rice in plastic bags are cheaper and healthier, or just the economy menu at the local place, leave yanks to know shit all of food.

Pho is pretty cheap and tasty still, just eat pho and be happy. Just don't go to an expensive place, go to one run by old Vietnamese men, if you see a female staff member run

>>11782132
instan ramen and real ramen are very very different

>>11782229
Amherst or Boston?

>>11782266
This, British Pot Noodles can beat ramen any time of the week.

its not a staple food of any generation, its a staple food of college students of every generation who then stop caring about it once they get a job

also, restaurants that sell and some specifically focused on actual ramen are not uncommon around me and I live in flyover

so what are you even talking about?

>>11783080
Cape.

>>11782132

Every ramen shop ive been to is 10$ for a bowl of flavorless noodles. Pho is the superior noodle soup.

>>11782148
i live near seattle and while theres a pho place on every street corner you still have to go out of your way to find a ramen place

>>11784001
ah, nice.

>>11782871
instant noodles are easy to make at home but actually making the noodles, broth, and toppings yourself is extremely time consuming.

>>11782132
Because low earning Zoomers can buy cheap ramen on a 10 for a dollar deal. GOOD ramen costs more.

>>11783085
>British Pot Noodles

>>11782147
Can confirm fellow San Diego-fag

>>11782132
>If ramen is a staple food of Millennials and Zoomers, then how come ramen shops haven't become a thing in the west like it is in Japan?

From what I've seen in Australia, they are becoming pretty common. A bowl of ramen is still more expensive here though

>>11782150
Most zoomers are born in wealthy families. They do not know how to cook, let alone boil water for ramen, and will just pay $20 for avocado toast.

>westerners calling instant noodles and actual ramen by the same name

dumb gwalioes, its worth $15 if the broth has been boiled for hours and it comes with real toppings like char siew bamboo shoots etc

>>11782229
There's a place just outside of Boston where there's like 6 Japanese places all inside a mall, pretty good ramen and the only places I can find donburi that doesn't require paying $5 to park for an hour downtown.

>>11782166
"real" ramen in japan is cheap and considered greasy fast food
only overseas does it cost that much

soba is my preference to ramen. Ramen is so easily produced that honestly there's not a big difference in (higher quality) instant versus restaurant. If you're buying fucking maruchan or whatever obviously you're getting cardboard bricks with cancer packets.

>>11782132
Making actual ramen noodles takes time and a lot of quality ingredients for the broth and then variety of stuff for toppings. Compared to a packet of instant noodles with some dry spices and vegetables and flash fried flour.

>>11784328
Pot Noodles is 100% British invention.

>>11782132
Esqueeze me?

>>11782132

>>11782143

>>11782139
applebees confirmed for quality

>>11782871
I made some legit pho one time. Started with home made beef bone stock and got all the spices and everything. Think it had clove, allspice and orange juice (I opted for tangerine because it's better in every way) in the recipe and a bunch of other stuff I don't remember. Basically took all day and cost a small fortune but it was pretty good, better than most restaurants but not the best I've had. It was only my first time making it though.

>>11784025
Totally agree, ramen is a wet noodle.

>>11782132

They have
We have noodle shops. They aren't called ramen shops by in large im sure there are some called that. But noodle places have been popping up due to the asian work forces that have been flooding the country.

https://www.meadowsgaming.com/dining/far-east-noodles/

also Why go out for ramen when you can get it at home. Its not a gourmet meal or even ideal in the fast food market model. its hard to eat a bowl of Anything in a car.
If you are a passenger in the drive through...good luck with those 1st degree burns from spillage.

Even in high foot traffic areas its not gonna be blade runner cafe. People want more than noodles for their money - unless you are VERY autistic.

>>11785936
>Pot Noodles is 100% British invention.
what is there to invent? Isnt it just noodles in a cup?

>>11782166
I've found good Ramen between $9.50-11.50 in the Riverside-San Bernardino area.

>>11782132
Instant ramen is a staple food of Millennials and Zoomers. There's a difference.

>>11786021
>american
>instantly thinks fast food means drive throughs

>>11782132
>ramen shops
You mean those restaurants that serve shit like pic related? That's nothing like the Maruchan ramen noodles that people buy all the time at gas stations / convenience stores. It's not like the microwave a pack of Top Ramen and serve it to you in a bowl. They prepare actual dishes. You're just getting confused by them having the same name, sort of like if you thought bags of BBQ potato chips were the same as going to a BBQ restaurant.
Also it was a Gen X thing first, not a Millennial thing. They were everywhere in the US during the 90s, college students ate them instead of real food.

>>11786841
There aren't many major fast food chains that don't have drive-throughs. Most people have cars in the US (almost 90% of adults). It's a large country and while there are more public transit options available in more remote areas today it's still convenient to own a car in most places outside of the most heavily congested cities like New York. And I say this as someone who doesn't bother with cars and generally resents how fast food places will close off normal access and do drive-through service only at night. Cars are stupid, but you can't pretend they aren't everywhere.

>>11782132
They have a couple in salt lake city

>>11782132
There's a ramen place near me I like to go to regularly, price is about 13-17 dollars a bowl.

>>11787094
Like it or not they are a boomer thing which I bought in the 1970s, strangely they get cheaper every year

>>11787277
They didn't start selling during the 90s, but they definitely got a lot more popular then. What country are you living in? 70s sounds like a pre-US instant noodles era for the most part. Like I don't think you saw them everywhere you went.

>>11782132
Because for some reason they're expensive as fuck
What would cost 7 bucks in Japan is fucking 30 at my local ramen shop

>>11782147
They're pretty much "a thing" in most big cities in the USA. SD is actually super "late" on the ramen train compared to like LA, but LA has a bigger japanese population so it makes sense. Interestingly enough, the best ramen place in sd predates the rise of popularity of ramen by a lot.

>>11787314
They had them at acme in the late 1970s in hickville Maryland

>>11787353
>acme
Now you're just fucking with me, that's a fictional company that makes roadrunner hunting paraphernalia.

>>11787363

Ramen is expensive. It's decent quality but it's $11-13 for a bowl plus drink cost and of course, tip.

>>11787333
Japanese eat ramen in 10 minutes, but Westerners eat it slowly

>>11782132
>ramen
Do people actually eat instant noodle with the soup? I just drain it and eat the noodles with some mayo or something. Not really ramen is it

>>11782132
Because instant ramen is a staple because it's 30 cents a pack.
Proper ramen is made with an 8h slow cooked broth and fresh ingredients. Sits $10 a bowl minimum

>>11784669
>most people born after 1998 are born in wealthy families

>>11787435
>mayo on ramen
wtf is wrong with you

>>11787338
Which shop are you referring to? Menya only opened up a few years ago. Basso Drillman has potential, but they miss a lot of key steps when actually serving a bowl of ramen.

>>11782132
Ramen shops ARE a popular thing in any large city. Had great ramen in DC, Vegas and San Francisco just in the past few months. Move out of Buttfuck, Indiana.

Flyover Wisconsin here I have three within three miles. However they are overpriced

>>11782132
>If ramen is a staple food of Millennials and Zoomers
Is it? Rice, legumes, and pasta are both cheaper and less processed, thus healthier. Potatoes as well, and they have nutritional properties of starchy vegetables.