/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11692069
a moderate portion of everything you listed, minimal refined and junk food.

>>11692071
So im supposed to supplement a "healthy diet" with junk food for calories?

>>11692069
You don't eat "healthy", you eat "less bad for you". Everything kills you.

>>11692074
i'm not sure how you got that from what i said, but no.

>>11692069
Eat with enough variety that no one thing is going to kill you before you die from other causes.

A balanced diet without any processed food/junk food should be healthy enough.
It's worth saying that you don't have to stick to one thing every day- you can eat a lot of fat and veggies one day, meat and carbs the other, even mix some cheat and fast days in. It should be fine to eat variety of food with different nutritional value every day, no need to just eat one thing all the time.

>>11692071
Based retard

>>11692111

>>11692108
>cheat day
/ck/ must really harbour the most women on this site

>>11692069
I eat 6 eggs a day, lots of fish and steak for years and my cholesterol is fine

>>11692069
if fish has no other downsides other than being expensive, then there's your answer

>>11692156
>What is mecury?

>>11692069
>muh cholesterol!
nutritional cholesterol doesn't translate to blood cholesterol
figure out how many calories you need and eat that. Stay low on carbs and remove sugars altogether. Eat plenty of meat and make sure you have at least 1g/kg of body fat in proteins consumed.
It really doesn't matter that much in the end. You can be healthy on an all mcdonalds diet so long as you eat the correct number of calories

>>11692159
a planet

>>11692159
No idea mate. Is it similar to mercury?

>>11692069
meat, butter/tallow/coconut oil, dairy, eggs, and vegetables.
dietary cholesterol doesn't matter, and saturated fat is good if you don't eat carbs.
moderate protein, not high. add more fat if you're not getting enough calories.

>>11692069
eat whatever the fuck you want and hit the gym 2-3 times a week for at least an hour of good lifting. there, youve now made your diet healthy

>>11692074
Are you retarded? Nutritionally dense food can be caloric dense too.

>>11692265
Not if you're an ethical eater (vegan)

>>11692163
>nutritional cholesterol doesn't translate to blood
Lol this idiotic meme died like 3 years ago

>>11692174
>saturated fat is good if you don't eat carbs
Retard.

There's this one cult on 4chan that actually believes eating pure lard all day every day is healthy because an infographic and one study from university of Mississippi said so

>>11692275
>he doesnt know about nuts,seeds and whole grains

>>11692069
Wholefood, no red meat, lots of antioxidants, some foods specifically for the rarer micronutrients like Selenium (lentils) and Iodine (Dulse, if not using iodized salt).

Since you want high protein density, eggs and chicken. Try to keep the eggs at 3 or less a day, excess cholesterol doesn't matter much ... but anything can be taken to excess.

>>11692278
the adverse effects of saturated fat are due to its insulin resisting properties.
if you dont eat carbs, physiological insulin resistance is a good thing, as glucose is spared by the muscles so it can be used for the brain. the muscles use more free fatty acids instead.

>>11692163
>1g/kg of body fat
>of body fat

>>11692069
A healthy diet looks like whatever the fuck you want, once every two days.

>>11692317
ah fuck my bad

>>11692314
>the adverse effects of saturated fat are due to its insulin resisting properties.

Luckily even for that extreme reach there has been at least one study.

https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/141/12/2180/4743731

>Plasma total, LDL, and non-HDL cholesterol as well as apoB concentrations were lower after the low-carbohydrate, low-saturated fat diet period than after the low-carbohydrate, high-saturated fat diet period.

ApoB being an excellent indicator of the percentage of small LDL particles. So with the most up to date scientific knowledge at this time, it still looks that a high saturated fat is worse for you. MUFA and stearic being the optimal fats to consume (stearic is in principle also saturated, but it's the exception to prove the rule).

Now you could argue that this is not an outcome based study. Since it only concerns risk indicators known valid for average people, they might not be valid for people on a ketogenic diet. Which is true and all, but risk indicators are still better than pulling a hypothesis out of your ass with no evidence at all.

>>11692163
>>11692174
>>11692295

>>11692069
>I need lots of calories for lifting

Not as many as you think. Remember that "pro" bodybuilders are HEAVILY "supplemented" with HGH / steroid shit, so you can't really use them as a model for anything.

Regardless, a simple "healthy" meal looks something like:
- 1 serving of protein (meat/fish/whatever)
- 2 servings of veg or fruit
- 1 serving of starch / carbs
Adjust your calories and fats based on your body composition. If you're burning off all your chow and muscle, then plus up on calories, if you're getting fat, then decrease as needed.

depends on your lifestyle but 2000 calories a day,
roughly 60% carbs, 20% fats, 20% protein.

thing of each 3 groups as a sliding scale of "good choice foods" and "poor choice food"

so for carbs, the best choices are potatoes, yams, oats, whole grains, rice, and then it gets into refined breads and into the poor choices of raw sugar and corn syrup, etc

good choices for protien is like, nuts, yogurt, fish, chicken, lean cuts of meat, then into some cheeses, and poor choices of like, mcdonalds, bacon, etc

good fats are olive oil, avocado, butter (kinda), and then bad fats like lard and beef talow and anything saturated

vegetables are always good, water is always good, soda is always bad, candy and corn syrup foods are always bad. You can eat them, but minimize them in your daily diet.

constrain your calories to the lifestyle that you live, so if you are active (which you aren't if you are posting on /ck/) you can go over 2000 a day.

if you are trying to lose weight, get some exercise and build the intensity of it over a period of weeks and months, and space out your meals into smaller portions more frequently.

justmeat.co

>>11692071
fpbp

>>11692069
Oatmeal, potatoes, rice

Chicken,fish, beef (once a week or so)

Greek yogurt, milk

Broccoli, spinach, cabbage

Banana, berries

Coffee black and tea (green or black

>>11692867
what extreme reach?

yes, it's not an outcome based study, and close to worthless imo.
and 30 en% carbs is far from ketogenic.

I consider the fact that (archaic) humans have evolved to eat (preferentially) large fatty land animals and often be in a state of ketosis to be strong evidence. way stronger than weakly correlated risk factor indicators from a wrong dataset.

palmitic acid in particular increases insulin resistance, and it makes sense to want this if you're not eating carbs so your muscles and organs use FFAs and ketones instead of glucose.

>>11692867
Saturated fat and dietary cholesterol are associated with T, and the latter is especially reasonable because it frees up resources for cholesterol and testosterone, especially acetyl-CoA, which is utilized in many other areas also (cellular respiration, citric acid cycling, the production of ketones, fatty acid metabolism, and melatonin and steroid synthesis).

Its so weird how nutrition is one scientific field where literally fucking everything is still uncertain, constantly changing daily and perpetually argued even by the masses.

>>11693934
>60% carbs
no wonder america has a diabetes epidemic when the government pushes such bullshit and they lap it up.

>>11695912
it it really that strange? consider the fact that there are so many studies paid for by food companies and stupid/corrupt politicians that think they're correct. There will always be people against these studies, it's only natural.
People have their ideas, their theories. They will attempt to prove their theories wrong as the scientific method details until they disprove or fail to disprove their theories.

>>11695300
Because you are pulling it completely out of your ass. You have no evidence, the only reason you have is some evolutionary bullshit ... but the real no reason is because you want to rationalize your diet.

We didn't evolve to become 80 years old and have our most likely cause of death be a heart attack, evolution is entirely irrelevant to CVD.

>>11695436
No they're not. The ratio of saturated fat and cholesterol for eggs is wildly different than say red meat.

Eggs also don't have any heme iron.

>>11692159
This

>>11696908
>No they're not.

>>11692069
offal, pulses, and seasonal veg
a fair bit of oily cheap fish (herring and mackerel)
some nice balanced grains (buckwheat, quinoa, oats)

think the main thing is to not eat much.

lived on mostly tuna sandwiches and peaches for a year that was probably pretty healthy.

>>11697367
enjoy your mercury poisoning

>>11692069
I'm glad this thread is here

From Jan 1st 2017 I've been on a plant based diet (not allowed to call it vegan because vegans put the animals above their own health) and it's nowhere near as bad as people claim, a good chance to cut all the bad stuff out of your diet. But I just don't believe it's sustainable long term, it's more like a detox.
As sad as it is and as nice as it would to live without harming animals a sugar only diet isn't good. But I just don't know what diet to do next, now that I'm convinced sugar is terrible for you do I cut out carbs completely, or do I stay mainly plant based but with eggs? Do I leave dairy out? I wish we actually knew what the healthiest diet was. I don't like meat so I'd rather not eat it but I'm all about health

>>11692069
Just eat real food. Nothing from a bag or box if you can help it. No refined sugars or grains.

>>11697404
Add liver to your diet if you are into health. It is the most nutritionally dense food on the planet. Fuck cheese and milk.

>>11697404
Stay plant-based, it's absolutely sustainable, but understand it's okay to wander outside the lines a bit. Don't be afraid of carbs, beans are nutrient bombs and whole grains are fine if you don't go overboard. Fruit and berries are amazing for you. Add fish twice a week and consume healthy oils including nuts and seeds. Eat poultry and limit your red meat and dairy. Use lots of herbs and spices, both dried and fresh. Drink water and tea.

>>11695912
Most general things are certain. It’s tobacco industry esque disinformation shills mudding up otherwise fact by severely misframing carefully cherrypicked studies.

>>11696319
>animemigger
>low T
Imagine my shock

>>11697404
Have you considered plant based most days of the week with a meat dish incorporated 2-3 days? Sticking to any meme diet doesn't seem sustainable. Gotta have variety and count calories.

>>11697463
That's a good idea, I was thinking I should it just looks so unappetising
>>11697478
>Don't be afraid of carbs
It's kind of hard not to be after seeing how many vegans fall to sugar addiction and get grey hairs in their 20s. It had me scared of fruit.
>Fruit and berries are amazing for you
Are they really? I though due to anti nutrients/ bioavailability they're basically no different to a spoon of sugar?
>>11697510
I was thinking plant based but with eggs daily. I just don't know if that's a good idea or not. Is that too often because of the cholesterol or would that be good?

>>11697523
You’re just throwing a bunch of retarded buzzwords together not knowing any meaning behind them. You know absolutely nothing about nutrition
People who are giving 20 servings of fruit a day show no adverse effects, and additionally had a 38 point drop in LDL cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11288049/

Fruit restriction offered no benefits in type 2 diabetics whereas ample fruit consumption did as it improved glycemic control
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23497350/

Industrial/pure fructose NOT whole fruit is unhealthy
https://www.journal-of-hepatology.eu/article/S0168-8278(13)00553-9/fulltext

Blueberries’ polyphenols decreases oxidation postpandrially in a high carb meal
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22935321/

Polyphenols in strawberries and apples decrease glucose uptake
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20564476/

Black currant and lingoberries significantly slow glycemic response wheh consumed with pure sucrose, as well as optimizing overall metabolic responses to sucrose consumption
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22854401/

Ample doses of fruit lower glycemic response in high GI meals
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3411192/

Blueberries blunt insulin response even when consumed with white bread
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23365108/

Moderate fruit diet far superior to low fruit diet especially in weight management
https://www.metabolismjournal.com/article/S0026-0495(11)00095-3/fulltext

17 servings of fruit a day offered no adverse effects and even improved weight management, blood pressure, insulin, and lipid levels
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/5573330/

>>11697535
>You know absolutely nothing about nutrition
Hence why I'm asking for advice on here instead of just doing it, you're getting upset but I'm only asking because I'm constantly being told different things

>>11697539
Im getting upset because it’s obvious you have no independent thinking of your own and submit to the trendiest diets and ideas regardless of their efficacy. Anybody genuine and with half a fucking working brain could tell you that an apple is different than a spoonful of sugar. Jesus christ

>>11697523
That many eggs is probably not great for you.

>>11697523
By carbs I meant rice, pasta, beans, potatoes, yams, etc. Sugar should definitely be avoided.

Not at all true re: fruit. The anti-nutrient debate has been blown out of proportion on a lot of fitness and health blogs (never eat beans, never eat raw greens, never eat this that and the other), but honestly the concerns are insignificant unless you consume any of these items in unbalanced amounts. Think on this example: Steve Jobs died due to pancreas issues caused by his fruitarian diet. But in other studies, they were giving subjects upwards of 20+ servings of fruit a day (blended as well as condensed in capsule form to make it easier to consume) with no detectable negative effects. It's in isolation that these become concerns, which you avoid if you eat a balanced diet.

I should also add that fruit is hugely different compared to a spoon of sugar. They contain vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, fiber, and flavinoids, all of which help to offset their sugar content (and why consuming whole fruit is so much better than juicing, though blending in smoothies is fine). Most health recommendations say to keep -added- sugar intake to under 25 grams, but that sugar that occurs naturally is fine as long as it isn't excessive. Remember too that we're shooting to consume plans from the full spectrum of colors and fruits definitely help with that.

>>11697535
>>11697554
>getting mad at someone for not knowing what you know
Not the guy you're responding to, but if you want to actually change someone's thinking then drop the condescension. They're not going to listen to reason if they can't get past your attitude.

>>11697568
>THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD FEEL REEEEEE FUCK YOU

Ironic. Dumbasses like you infuriate me. I don’t expect to change the minds of retards like you when you can’t differentiate a tablespoon of sugar from a peach

>>11697568
He's a sugar addict, they're all crazy.
https://youtu.be/fbOsOARhBD0
20 servings of fruit a day isn't unhealthy even though natural sugar all gets sent to the liver and has to be processed as fructose and glucose but you'll get that little bit of vitamin C. Teeth falling out are just detoxing.

>>11697580
>tablespoon of sugar from a peach
There isn't a difference
https://youtu.be/v_w04VcsvNs

>>11697582
>my third grade level conjecture which denies the existence of polyphenols, fiber, anthocyanine, bioflavonoids, and other phytonutrients is more valid than actual evidence itself

Carnists in a nutshell, barely functioning brains from the lack of direct glucose

>>11697554
>submit to the trendiest diets and ideas regardless of their efficacy.
Eh not really, my diet was always terrible, then a year on a high carb plant based diet which felt okay to begin with but quickly went terrible. Now I'm not sure what I'm doing next.
>apple is different than a spoonful of sugar.
You mentioned eating lots of fruits and berries, reminds me of the people who put all these high sugar fruits on their oats deluding themselves it's healthy when really they're just adding sugar to their sugar.
>I'm getting upset because
Too much sugar probably

>>11697625
Blackberries have low carbs though anf their seeds route you the fuck out. Top tier fruit.

>>11697600
>polyphenols
>anthocyanine
>bioflavonoids
Meaningless buzzwords you resort to that mean absolutely nothing, almost as pathetic as your links you keep saved that no one ever clicks on. As for fibre it's not necessary and a lot of people have problems with it.

>>11697580
I should have known better than to try to reason with a raging douchebag. As you were, incel.

>>11697556
GSP eats 4 eggs a day and look at him.
Checkmate.

>>11697625
Oh another barely functioning carnist who denies evidence in front of his fat fucking face. Your diet is terrible because you’re a fatty fat fat piece of shit. Not because you get aroused by bananas

>y-you’re being too mean!!!
Low T carnist fatboy. Go cry about zucchinis triggering your latent homosexuality

>>11697634
>his gut microbiome is fucked

Enjoy lower cognition and a compromised immune system

>>11697647
I'm plant based
>fatty
I'm lacking muscle mass and feeling tired all the time from all the sugar, like you

>>11697634
>The results in this assay show that some PPTs inhibit glucose transport from the intestinal lumen into cells and also the GLUT2-facilitated exit on the basolateral side.
>We can therefore affirm that animal and cellular studies, and some in vivo studies, provide mounting evidence that a large body of flavonoids may have beneficial actions to fight diabetic complications. The molecular and cellular mechanisms, although not fully elucidated, involve a large quantity of biochemical pathways and are under active investigation. Further studies are needed to clarify the mechanisms underlying the action of flavonoids. These studies provide a strong rationale for well-powered, randomized placebo controlled intervention trials to be performed in patients with diabetic complications.

Too much fiber isn’t necessary. You’d have to havd destroyed your gut from being a far carnist for it to be an issue most of the time. I don’t expect fat pseuds like you to divulge into actual research. It doesn’t make the posterization any less fun for me :)

>>11697640
Ooooooh are you twiggered???? Yes you are fatboy!!! Yes you are!!!

>>11697655
You’re a fat dumb fuck who gets aroused and scared of carrots cuz MUH SUGAR

You’re lacking muscle mass because you’re a fat retard scared of kiwis. For someone who seeks knowledge you seem pretty deadset on this thing you admitted you knew jackshit about but still eat? Fat retard carnists s-mh

>>11692069
I think a healthy diet honestly just looks like eating at home, and cooking using mostly veggies and fruits. Meat is healthy, but should have a minimal role in a healthy diet. My diet is mostly fruits, greens, yogurt, and eggs.

>>11697705
Do you even lift though?

I can't help but laugh at the angry kids lashing out around here. They pretend it's some act of superiority when you just know they'd be a real person if their life wasn't so fucking miserable.

>>11697733
H-Ha y-yeah right, n-normal like us, haha

>>11697733
Haha yeah totally

OP here, coming back since i found my own thread on page 1, thought it was dead. The amount of crap posted itt is insane, it evolved into le ebin ketard and ameriblob maymay.
I dont think most posters understood my problem, i need to get more calories than the average person, but have the same organs as them. I dont want to fuck up my heart with animal fats and dairy, my colon with meat, my livers and kidneys with a constant overload of protein and the rest of my body with excessive carb consumption, all that while avoiding being bloated by a lot of veggies.
also lmaoing @ that guy thinking 2000k kc is enough for an average guy

>>11697772
You’re afraid of literally everything because you buy into every retarded boogeyman meme.

>>11697772
Don't want to be ungrateful though, atleast you guys tried :)

>>11697736
>>11697743
I just meant it's a twist of karmic beauty that angry stains like the one posting in this thread live equally unhappy lives, and until they wise up things won't change for them.

>>11697772
Like... what? I'm failing to see how you're getting hung up here, it's like you're oddly hypochondriac about food. The answer literally is just eat more. Consume more healthy proteins like fish and poultry, eat a few more veggies, use a little extra drizzle of olive oil when you sautee, cook another yam or sweet potato with dinner, have a couple extra tablespoons of peanut butter, supplement with a protein shake. It's the same healthy shit you should be eating, you just eat more of it.

Obviously if you're bulking up to an unhealthy weight then that's going to put stress on your organs, but "more of the good stuff" is almost never a problem. If you're still not convinced, go to your GP and have him tell you exactly the same thing.

>>11696900
t. dunning-kruger

>>11697796
Based holier than thou poster

>>11692069

>>11697809
>everything this thread has been telling him to eat
>he still doesn't seem to understand but hey, maybe the /fit/ at the top will get through

>>11697796
>I just meant it's a twist of karmic beauty that angry stains like the one posting in this thread live equally unhappy lives, and until they wise up things won't change for them.

I mean yeah, how ironic right? Lmao oblivious

>>11697809
BUT THE INTERNET ALSO TOLD ME CARBS WERE THE DEVIL AND FRUITS TOO

>>11697835
huh?

>>11697535
not the anon but is sugar really that detrimental? I know fruit has a lot of sugar, but you think 20 servings of fruit a day is good.

>>11698120
The recommendation is to avoid added sugar or limiting it to 25g a day or less. Naturally occurring sugars aren't really a concern because of everything else that comes with it.

Also, you need to work on your reading comprehension. Nobody is saying everyone should eat 20 servings of fruit a day. The study only says that 20 servings were given to subjects across a multi-week period on top of a healthy diet and no discernible negative effects were seen. If that's the case with 20 servings, we can safely conclude that the RDA of 2-3 servings of fruit (and 3-5 of vegetables) is reasonable and will not have any negative effects.

>>11697809
b-but muh sugar

>>11692069
evolve chloryphyl and live off of sunlight like a level 200 vegan

>>11698172
>Nobody is saying everyone should eat 20 servings of fruit a day. The study only
So why'd you link it?

>>11697701
You're worse than the vegan gains troll

>>11698534
That wasn’t him. And as he just said it’s to illustrate that consuming that much amount isn’t unhealthy and that fearing fruit is retarded. That’s the reading comprehension he was talking about you dumb turd

@all the protein poster itt

>>11698574
There was supposed to be a screencap attached of an anon drinking lots of supplemental soylent type of stuff that blew his liver and kidneys apart due to all the protein in them

>>11697463
Livers (and kidneys) are heavy metal accumulators. In a modern environment even the best cared for animals are stuck with the heavy metals coming out of smoke stacks

>>11697404
Most recent evidence suggests 3-5 eggs a day is not a problem or even beneficial. If you are genetically prone to high cholesterol you might want to shoot for 3 instead of 5. The TMAO thing was mostly hype.

Honestly, I'd recommend playing around with your diet, and eating whatever (and whenever) leaves you feeling the best/ you can stick to without exerting significant willpower. Keep track of heart rate and other vitals if you're worried about invisible damage, although most of it is overblown.

The difference between the needs of a 20-year old lumberjack and a 60-year old office worker is radical, before getting into metabolism and circadian rhythm and social environment and stress and whatever-the-hell-else that can tie into your dietary needs and cravings. Any large, generic-sample study based meme-diet is gonna be off for that reason.

>all the fucking cancer in this thread
Thanks 4chan X!

>>11698651

>>11698600
>Most recent evidence suggests 3-5 eggs a day is not a problem or even beneficial

And was that the Ronald Krauss school of huckstery or Maria Luz Fernandez one that printed out such trash. I can’t remember

>>11698672
The most recent pro-egg results are based on things like the Heart study in China (and similar studies elsewhere). Also the realization that total cholesterol isn't all that relevant. If you increase dietary cholesterol enough (1000s of mg) you can budge the amount of small LDL particles, but a couple of eggs have very little effect.

Here's some research on genotype influence on response to dietary cholesterol :
http://www.jlr.org/content/33/9/1361.full.pdf

Basically, if you're not ApoE4 don't worry about it. If you are your risk of dementia is also higher though, so maybe dying young isn't so bad.

>>11698662
If every board except a very few number of threads and 20% of /tg/ doesn't look like this on your browser you're doing it wrong

>>11698870

>>11698834
None of your vague off hand citations are consistent with actual evidence. These studies you speak follow some flaws like not measuring baseline cholesterol, measuring fasting cholesterol, or just manipulate extremely high baseline scores to make it seem 3-5 eggs has no effect

>>11698974
They Heart study doesn't care about cholesterol at all, it simply looks at health outcomes :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29785957
Another earlier meta analysis :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23676423
>This meta-analysis suggests that egg consumption is not associated with the risk of CVD and cardiac mortality in the general population. However, egg consumption may be associated with an increased incidence of type 2 diabetes among the general population and CVD comorbidity among diabetic patients.

As for http://www.jlr.org/content/33/9/1361.full.pdf
Total cholesterol did increase for increased consumption, it's just that the fraction for which the modern consensus is that it's relevant (ie. the one mostly correlated with ApoB) didn't, except for ApoE4 genotypes.

Without addressing the modern consensus that specific serum cholesterol fractions are relevant, your ancient picture has become irrelevant.

>>11692130
That would be /soc/
Attention is like crack for women

>>11696319

>im being a nigger on a food board and no one can stop me

>>11699056
Lol you went from “3-5 eggs is healthy” to “this shifty cross sectional that doesn’t calculate baseline says 1 a day might have benefits” quite the shift.

>it's just that the fraction for which the modern consensus is that it's relevant (ie. the one mostly correlated with ApoB) didn't, except for ApoE4 genotypes.
Pure editorializing. You seem to think the basis for the lipid hypothesis doesn’t factor into genetics, they controlled for everything and have shown the single most prominent factor for raise in dietary cholesterol is your baseline cholesterol. Your own referenced study mentions at one point how low base intake may affect one of the groups responses to cholesterol intake WHICH IS THE ENTIRE POINT to the Keys equation. You by design cannot find a relation unless you calculate baseline
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/313701/

Apoe gene expression is also altered by exogenous cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14501024/
This has been repeated for decades and a weak “muh recency” does not negate this unless you care to jump off a bridge to disprove gravity

>>11699133
But niggers love carbs. Wh*toid.

>>11699214
>Lol you went from “3-5 eggs is healthy” to “this shifty cross sectional that doesn’t calculate baseline says 1 a day might have benefits” quite the shift.

Some of the evidence I presented only goes up to 1 a day without making any mention of delirious effects for higher consumption. It's some of the strongest recent research so I mentioned it specifically, it's not all I base my opinion on.

The negligible impact of egg consumption on ApoB as shown in the genotype study is one of the reasons. There are more :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5852834/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16340654
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22778967

>You seem to think the basis for the lipid hypothesis doesn’t factor into genetics

I think modern evidence has vastly overtaken the lipid hypothesis as understood in the time from your pic.

>they controlled for everything and have shown the single most prominent factor for raise in dietary cholesterol is your baseline cholesterol.

Sic. They did however at the time have little clue about the relevance of the cholesterol fractions as predictors of CVD.

>>1169905
https://academic.oup.com/nutritionreviews/article-abstract/69/5/270/1935029?redirectedFrom=PDF
There is also no tolerable threshold for saturated fats and cholesterol

Your genetics study also drew blood during fasting levels, when again postprandrial is the method of which to measure
http://m.jlr.org/content/35/11/1993.long

>>11692069
Hostess fruit pies fried in corn oil with can frosting over top at least two meals a day. You will be healthy as an ox in no time.

>>11699338
>when again postprandrial is the method of which to measure
What do you base that opinion on?

>>11692069
The real question is why you would listen to anything /fit/ says. Fucking degenerates on that bored literally do /nopillow/ thinking it will help them. Just eat enough protein a day for how much you lift and supplement the rest of your cals with vegetables and non shit carbs. Refined sugars are really the only thing that is bad for you. Your protein intake depends on body weight, generally one gram of protein for one pound of body weight (200 pound male= 200g protein a day).

>>11697809
Getting into the thread late, but these are always funny. Veg and fruit are fine, let me tear into the rest.
>chicken and turkey BREAST
Least nutritious and least flavorful parts of both animals. Cuts valued for variance in cooking, not for flavor or health. Buy thighs and legs.
>whole grains
Similarily to nuts being on this list, they have merit, however they are largely indigestible and worthless foods when compared to their more processed counterparts. i.e. peanut butter/almond butter versus actual nuts. Similarly, wheat while strictly filler and something that should not be consumed, is more available when more processed.
>rice
same as wheat, filler, for budget survival not for thriving.
>potatoes
I'm still on on those. I eat them.
>carrots
Mostly insoluble fiber. Vitamin A listed on package is blatantly false advertising as your body cannot process the majority of the carrot.

>fish
Tilapia should never be eaten. Tuna, sardines and anchovies have heavy metal component memed about on here daily. Salmon is profoundly nutritious, less so when dyed with shrimp dye and farm fed. Good salmon is expensive. Seafood is becoming far less healthy as human population increases. Starkist is poison, for example.
>eggs, cottage cheese UNPASTURIZED MILK
All are profoundly beneficial always. Foods of the gods.

Oils and condiments are comical to say the least. I can expand on that if you want, but the guy who made this list is a fucking retard.

>>11699321
You can’t argue one study with a completely separate one.

>There are more
As we’ve known for 40 years which doesn’t magically become invalid at your convenience. Cross sectional studies are unsuitable for heart disease research as by design you are incapable of finding a correlation, as your first link is and compares 3 eggs to a choline supplement and again measure fasting levels, not postprandrial

Your second study by the same literal half million dollar paid shill concedes eggs raise LDL but also HDL which is not considered significant when LDL especially significantly outweighs it
She uses the skeezy term “hyperresponders” to indicate she is ignoring baseline scores of cholesterol and says LDL increases large fluffy cholesterol more so then small dense even though both have 40%+ risks

And your third study is HYPER LIPIDEMIC PATIENTS ON STATINS

It’s like you’re missing the entire point of BASELINE

>think modern evidence has vastly overtaken the lipid hypothesis as understood in the time from your pic.
Receny. Bias. Is. Not. An. Argument.

You need to explain what is outdated or invalid. We’ve repeated the validity of the lipid hypothesis FOR DECADES. I’d say that’s more valid than some two year old study that doesn’t even calculate baseline scores or manipulates it by utilizing hyperlipidemic patients or comparing eggs to pure lard

>Sic. They did however at the time have little clue about the relevance of the cholesterol fractions as predictors of CVD
And this is just you desperately speculating at this point. Genetics do not matter

All LDL particles are atherogenic
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S073510971204942X

Out of all the risk factors for atherosclerosis, guess which one(s) made the list? Hint: not genetics!!!

Maybe deferring to modern stupidity isn’t such a great idea

>>11699476
Link about atherogenic risk factors.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603726/

>>11699356
https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.com/action/getSharedSiteSession?rc=1&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.atherosclerosis-journal.com%2Farticle%2FS0021-9150%2812%2900788-5%2Fabstract

>fasting LDL cholesterol levels are determined mainly by cholesterol production levels in the liver overnight, and have little to do with what the patient consumed the previous day

>>11699448
Imagine being this fucking retarded. You should probably kill yourself.

>>11699664
Got any points you wanna discuss champ? I'm totally ready for ya. My aim is always to help, not hurt. I might be wrong, and I'm sure you'll elucidate me quickly.

>>11699587
Okay, you got me ... I was wrong. The postprandial vs. fasting cholesterol seems indeed disingenuous and I was indeed naive.

>>11699356
Atherogenesis: A Postprandrial Phenomenon
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/222498/

>>11699859
Yes, yes ... enough.

>>11699435
>one gram of protein for one pound of body weight
Nope. Unless you're a professional athlete on steroids and a regimented training program, than .5 to .6 grams of protein is all you need. Anything more just gets flushed down the toilet.

>>11699893
A gram of protein per kilogram is enough for your average sedentary person, but not enough for an adult male that lifts weights. Youd know if you did

>>11693934
>60% carbs
>lard and beef tallow are bad
>saturated is bad

How's your pre diabetic doing ?
https://youtu.be/PE_Ht576bN8

>>11700941
Mentally deficient former fatsos who need a religion to not stuff their faces aren't the most reliable advisors. The religion combined with the mental deficiency and all.

Asians eat shitloads of carbs and are healthy. They eat white rice now gimmicky brown rice either. Whats their secret?

>>11701452
Superior genes.

>>11701452
Being a limp-wristed beta cuck numale that kills himself over sexual repression is far from healthy

>>11700829
It's plenty for anyone that lifts for fitness, including YOU and 99.999999% of people that lift.

You'd know that if you actually lifted.

>>11692069
>Vegetables have no calories
But that's not even true you moron

>>11701756
Ah yes, the noble incel who keels over his 8th McChicken of the day at age 40

>>11699448
Next time just mention unpasteurized milk at the very start so nobody has to read the rest of your worthless post.

>>11701807
Go ahead and eat 2500 calories of broccoli, numbskull.

>>11692069
>grains
eat whole grains, retard
>fruits
eat actual fruit and stop drinking juice, retard. the fiber is actually important
>protein
>animal fat, eggs, and meat
there's more sources of protein than just animals, retard. try eating some fuckin beans sometime
>plant fat
are you for fucking real? nuts are extremely healthy for you, dipshit
>fish
>expensive
sardines? tuna? jesus fucking shit

>I'm lifting
DRINK MILK YOU FUCKING MORON

based & redpilled thread

here's what you do op:

-meat-only diet
-nofap
-sleep on the floor
-cold showers daily
-do rackpulls instead of deadlifts, front squat instead of back squat and dumbbell bench instead of barbell bench

voila

>>11702082
>meat-only diet
imagine the smell

>>11702021
Those few extra nutrients in whole grain dont make anyone with half a brain pay twice the price for it. I do not drink juice except when used as a mixer.
>what is bioavailability
>implying i can afford nuts as a staple in my diet
>implying the sea isnt as dirty as a toilet seat
Enjoy your heavy metals. Also, have you tried eating legumes consistently? Fuck those braaaaaaps

>>11697772
>I dont want to fuck up my heart with animal fats and dairy, my colon with meat, my livers and kidneys with a constant overload of protein and the rest of my body with excessive carb consumption
you sound like a massive meme victim
what i did, was firstly figure out which should be some keystone foods to eat everyday and how much in order to reach my 3000 calories a day
so e.g. eggs every morning, chicken every evening, avocados daily
and you take into account the affordability, so you can actually keep up the keystone foods in long term, and just avoid trashfood. trashfood is easily detectable with even an average IQ

>>11692069
Nothing processed or prepackaged. That's the most important rule.
High in oily fish, olive oil, and vegetables. Eat raw or as close to raw as you can when possible. Frying the plain fish in olive oil also makes a nice treat.
Yogurt and milk. Maybe some butter too.
Moderate meat.
Some carbs, but not loads. Small bowl of rice with each meal as a guideline.
No refined sugar at all.

Try that out and see how you do.

>>11701881
It's undeniably better than pasturized, which is proven with science, so what do you mean little guy?

>>11702745
>Nothing processed or prepackaged.
This goes a long way to not being obese as (((they're))) always trying to sneak in more sugar/salt/fat into shit to beat the competition and get you used to buying their bullshit.

Whole proteins are easy to find, and cheaper when you buy in bulk, so buy whole chickens, turkeys, roasts, etc...

Buy fresh veggies and fruit if you can afford it, but if not, frozen is fine, and some shit can be better in cans, like tomatoes.

Don't buy bread, buy flour instead and make your own. Potatoes are cheap, and rice isn't that bad either.

It's not hard, you've just got to de-program yourself thinking that buying and eating pre-made or fast food shit is "normal". It's not.

>>11697481
>get diabetes
>a-at least I have high testosterone

>>11692069
>protein
>strains your liver and kidneys
>animal fat, eggs and meat (point above also applies)
>muh cholesterol!
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/10/latest-study-shows-that-33-gkg-high.html
>https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health

>>11704374
>die early from heart failure
>a-at least I showed the jewish system how my primal ancestors ""lived""

>>11692069
>>11705747
>>11692876
>Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease.
>The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades.
>The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI.
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/saturated-fat-good-or-bad/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/
>http://www.uib.no/en/node/103172
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-studies-on-saturated-fat
>http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html

>>11692069
>eggs
>https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-health-benefits-of-eggs
>https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-reasons-why-eggs-are-the-healthiest-food-on-the-planet#section1
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=eggs
>http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/189529
>http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8539
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=egg+yolk
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/07/egg-ology-today-underappreciated-health.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/11/underestimated-vitamin-d-sources.html

>>11692069
>fish
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/09/faster-muscle-hypertrophy-lower.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/02/minimal-amounts-of-fish-peptide.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012/06/fishing-for-better-wheys-to-improve.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/04/fish-and-krill-oil-both-work-but-their.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/05/fish-oil-compromises-fish-improves.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2012/05/fishing-for-muscle-cod-protein-promotes.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/06/whey-protein-hydrolysates-were.html

>>11702634
>eating meat daily
who is the meme victim

Saturated fats, trans fats, and refined carbs increase serum cholesterol and atherosclerotic risk
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/77/5/1146/4689813

Dietary cholesterol increases LDL oxidation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10704618/

Dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterol, a meta analysis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1534437/

The progression of cholesterol and atherosclerosis
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.cir.0000103664.47406.49

Saturated fats impair antioxidative properties of HDL and disrupt endothelial function
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16904539/

Coconut oil is nearly as horrible as butter for LDL cholesterol and serum lipids
http://www.jlr.org/content/36/8/1787.full.pdf

Meta analysis claiming saturated fats are harmless is seriously misleading
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2014/03/19/dietary-fat-and-heart-disease-study-is-seriously-misleading/

Egg consumption increases LDL levels and LDL oxidation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9001684/

>>11705747
>>11705761
>>11705769
>>11705774
As much as i hate walls of text i want to thank you for the effort a lot

Due to measured levels of dioxin that exceed safety standards, the National Academy of Science has for years recommended that people avoid eating a diet rich in animal fats.
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/hurtful-food-my-reaction-to-looking-at-an-oily-cheese-pizza.html

Change in quality of life and immune markers after a stay at a raw vegan institute: a pilot study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2486444/

The role of diet and physical activity in breast, colorectal, and prostate cancer survivorship: a review of the literature
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3251953/

Interindividual differences in response to plant-based diets: implications for cancer risk
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677005/

An impact of the diet on serum fatty acid and lipid profiles in Polish vegetarian children and children with allergy. [Eur J Clin Nutr. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21048771

Effects of a long-term vegetarian diet on biomarkers of antioxidant status and cardiovascular disease risk. [Nutrition. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873

Vegetarian diets and the incidence of cancer in a low-risk population. [Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929

Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk
http://www.cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/meat.php

Understanding the Problems with Dairy Products
http://www.nutritionmd.org/nutrition_tips/nutrition_tips_understand_foods/dairy.html
1. Osteoporosis 2. Cardiovascular Disease 3. Cancer 4. Diabetes 5. Lactose Intolerance 6. Vitamin D Toxicity 7. Contaminants 8. Health Concerns of Infants and Children

Nutrient Density of Animal and Plant Foods:
http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/article17.aspx

Nutritional Update for Physicians: Plant-Based Diets (a summary)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

Effects of a long-term vegetarian diet on biomarkers of antioxidant status and cardiovascular disease risk. [Nutrition. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873

Vegetarian diets and the incidence of cancer in a low-risk population. [Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929

Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk
http://www.cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/meat.php

Red meat and colon cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558046

Study finds unsafe mercury levels in 84 percent of all fish
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57563739/study-finds-unsafe-mercury-levels-in-84-percent-of-all-fish/

Like Bacon, Sausage and Hot Dogs? Then Beware: They May Raise Your Risk of Death, New Study Finds
http://shine.yahoo.com/shine-food/like-bacon--sausage-and-hot-dogs--too-bad--cause-that-stuff-l-kill-you--new-study-finds--174609721.html

Study Points to New Culprit in Heart Disease
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/study-points-to-new-culprit-in-heart-disease.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"Neu5Gc elicits an immune reaction that might contribute to a whole spectrum of human-specific diseases"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3346666/Mystery-of-the-meat-eaters-molecule.html

Restriction of meat, fish, and poultry in omnivores improves mood: a pilot randomized controlled trial
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/11/1/9/abstract

Harvard School of Public Health » milk is NOT the best source of calcium
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

Eating less meat and dairy may help reduce osteoporosis risk, Cornell studies show.
http://news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

Milk--the promoter of chronic Western diseases
PMID: 19232475
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19232475

Acne, dairy and cancer (PMID: 20046583)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18398033?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=2

Hormones in milk can be dangerous By Corydon Ireland
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html

Pork May Raise Your Risk of Death, New Study Finds
http://shine.yahoo.com/shine-food/like-bacon--sausage-and-hot-dogs--too-bad--cause-that-stuff-l-kill-you--new-study-finds--174609721.html

Milk consumption: aggravating factor of acne and promoter of chronic diseases of Western societies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483

Milk Consumption and Prostate Cancer
http://pcrm.org/health/health-topics/milk-consumption-and-prostate-cancer

Dairy Linked to Acne Development
http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/dairy-linked-to-acne-development

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM&feature=player_embedded[Open]
Celebrated Cornell University professor T. Colin Campbell Phd, presents the overwhelming evidence showing that animal protein is one of the most potent carcinogens people are exposed to.

TMAO: A Toxic Substance Formed When You Eat Meat Can Make You... Dead Meat
http://www.forksoverknives.com/tmao-a-toxic-substance-formed-when-you-eat-meat-can-make-you-dead-meat/

Meat, dairy may be as detrimental to your health as smoking cigarettes, study says
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/meat-dairy-may-be-as-detrimental-to-your-health-as-smoking-cigarettes/

Vegan Blood Fights Cancer 8x Better
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/developing-an-ex-vivo-cancer-proliferation-bioassay/

Animal Protein and the Cancer Promoter IGF-1
http://nutritionfacts.org/2013/02/14/animal-protein-and-igf-1/

Vegan diet in physiological health promotion. [Acta Physiol Hung. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10943644

Vegans have higher testosterone

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/

- Processed meattrash lowers sperm count

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/

- Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976

- Casomorphine in milk is addictive

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738

- Milk gives you prostate cancer

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754

- Milk gives you acne

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483

- Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848

- Meat gives you colorectal cancer

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/

- Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589

ESTROGEN FROM RED MEAT CAUSES CANCER:
IGF-1 Levels of vegans and others: http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/cebp/11/11/1441.full.pdf
IGF-1 in blood correlated with cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2743036/pdf/ukmss-27731.pdf
IGF-1 and Cancer growth: https://academic.oup.com/edrv/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/er.2008-0022

95% of cattle are given estrogen to increase growth:
https://ofbf.org/uploads/OFBFHormoneUseinAnimalAgriculturebriefing.pdf

Mammal estrogens are 10,000x more potent than xenoestrogens and meat can contribute to 40% of estrogen intake:
http://tinyurl com/yayt4qlc

Adolescent Daily Milk = 302% increase prostate cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249408/pdf/kwr289.pdf
Increase in prostate cancer with dairy Japan: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12710911

Vegan Patrik Baboumian Breaks World Record for Most Weight Ever Carried
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL4lb6IevWw
Rates of cancers, especially hormone-dependent cancers such as prostate cancer and breast cancer, are significantly lowered when omitting animal products, like cow's milk, from the diet. Not only that, but plant foods, such as soy and flaxseeds, have protective effects on the body to prevent or reverse the development of these types of cancers.

Flaxseeds and its effects on prostate cancer:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15134976

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064574

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21764858

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11445478

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11911282

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18471323

Flaxseeds and its effects on breast cancer:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20724470

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21900107

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21915130

http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/11/10/3828.full.pdf+html

Soy and prostate cancer:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19838933

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10189040

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25367323

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15351581
Soy and breast cancer:

http://journals.lww.com/nutritiontodayonline/Abstract/2013/03000/Exploring_the_Soyfood_Controversy.5.aspx

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14729654

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19318430

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19996398

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221874

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20956506

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22524810

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21357380

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22539238

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23725149

Dairy and prostate cancer:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20358466

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25989745

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16094059

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357167/pdf/brc0005-0044.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15203374

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249408/pdf/kwr289.pdf

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/canres/58/3/442.full.pdf

Dairy and female cancers:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15531686

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11408508

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11875733

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25648405

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871675

>>11706924
>not eating meat daily
>>>/lgbt/