/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11673934
Fruit is a meme, leafy greens and non root vegetables are the way forward anon

>>11674044
what a worthless responce

>>11673934

Let's see... What, oh what, could give you that gas after you're eating food in excess that your body can't process? Why it's your gut microbiome!
You don't just starve yourself, but you starve them too guy. All of the sudden you flood the gates with unprocessed sugars (plant cell wall materials, ...) and you assume it'll all go fine and dandy? These things start metabolizing like mad, and you assume it'll be fine with just eating vegetables..

>>11674085
What a worthless human being

>Eat an excessive amount
there's your problem

>>11674179
I haven't seen this gif in years. Thank you

>>11673934
>go on a 10 day waterfast
Why?

>>11673934
Fruit are not healthy. They are for putting on fat to get you through the winter. Dont fall for the vegan tricks.

>>11674209
The majority of fatties don't have the discipline to adopt long-term lifestyle changes, so instead they opt for whatever meme is making the rounds on social media. When it inevitably fails they fall off the wagon for 6 months or until the next new year, pick up a new meme, and repeat ad infinitum.

>>11674209
why not

>>11674179
not the point
This anecdote indicates a discrepancy with the nutritious value fruit has to offer your body and the additional disadvantages alongside

>>11674302
>why not
Because there's no logical reason to go on a silly meme diet.

>>11674302
>not the point
yeah, it is. eat any type of food excessively after not eating for 10 days and you're going to be bloated and gassy and feel like shit.

>>11673934
You should break your fast with lighter stuff, I suggest liquids (fruit juice, smoothies w/o anything acidic) or apple sauce, and then slowly introduce things like veggies/eggs/fruits. Or just learn better discipline next time and don’t binge like a fatty.
Pic related is my progress so far, I’m aiming for 7 days and then I’m planning to break it with an almond milk + spinach smoothie and some salad.

Good luck with future fasts anon <3

>>11673934
What fruit did you eat?
Watermelon is good for breaking a fast due it being mostly water.
Maybe you shouldn't have eaten an 'excessive' amount

>>11674302
>why not
Because it's worse for you than being a ginormous fatass that tries any other diet, or just does nothing cause you'll go straight back

>>11673934
i went on a 10 day eat-anything-i-want fast.
it was a good way to have anything i want and it was healthy and delicious too.

>>11673934
Macros dumbass. Eggs have fat and protein.

CARNIVORE DIET. YOU'RE WELCOME. MAINTAIN KETOSIS WITHOUT STARVING.

>>11674300
except fasting actually works really well

>>11673934
You're supposed to drink bone or chicken broth dipshit

>>11674340
except vegetables
idk how it works exactly either

>>11674359
every thread retards commenting when the point of op goes completely over their heads

>>11674532
IF or a single 24-hour fast/week has some benefits, but fatties don't understand research. So you get idiots like OP starving themselves for a week and a half and wondering why their body reacts to their first solid intake. And their solution? BLAME FRUIT.

>>11673934
if you have fucked up gut bacteria, they will eat the fibre you give them and process it by releasing toxic gasses. imagine a mismanaged compost pile that smells like ammonia and rotten eggs, that is what happens in your guts on a small scale.

Try introducing more pro-biotics before high fibre foods after a fast. Start with low fibre foods after a fast as well, like broths, kefir, yogurt, or long cooked low fibre vegetables.

>>11673934
Break your fast with liver next time. Chicken or beef works. I'm fond of breaking a fast with pate, gives me something to look forward to. Most of the minerals you are deficient in at the end of a fast are concentrated in the liver.

>>11674557
fatties should water fast for a month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfNRetld7nQ

>>11674569
this. if you eat fermented food after your fast and eat healthy for 1-2 weeks after your fast you can do in a month what the gaps diet wants to do in a year

>>11674680
*eat healthily

>>11674660
>links random youtuber for "proof"

>>11674569
op here
> imagine a mismanaged compost pile that smells like ammonia and rotten eggs, that is what happens in your guts on a small scale.
this is a really really good description
so what, you saying have fucked up gut bacteria ??

>>11674368
the instance in my example was primarily heaps of blackberries and raspberries
much like < img

>>11674691
>>11674683
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2018/02/story-angus-barbieri-went-382-days-without-eating/

>>11674706
our GI tract is populated by lots of bacteria that function to breakdown food into available nutrients. We have much more than one type of bacteria, but the largest population of pro-biotic bacteria seem to control the smaller ones, "obligate" bacteria when in proper amounts. If there is damage to the pro-biotic population of gut bacteria, the obligate types can multiply and their emissions are harmful to the body. Damage to the good bacteria may come from a course of anti-biotics, dental work, food poisoning, even sustained use of chlorinated tap-water can damage bacteria levels in the gut *have you had any of these?*. Basically the obligate bacteria are held in check by the probiotic ones, and the small trace amounts of bad bacteria produce poisons not nutrients. We carry a lot of future diseases around in our guts, and they are released or allowed to proliferate when our bodies and in turn, gut bacteria are mis-managed.

>>11674820
>links random blogger for “proof”

Fruits are CLEANSERS and vegetables are BUILDERS.

When you go on a fruit fast, it's so cleansing that it's very easy to experience cravings because your body is being cleaned on a cellular level. Parasites also (probably) have a role to play in your cravings since you are getting rid of their food source.

Keep going, and get on a parasite detox in order to kill the cravings.

>>11674827
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/
https://www.reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/wiki/studies
https://idmprogram.com/difference-calorie-restriction-fasting-fasting-27/

>>11674903
>parasite detox
a cyanide pill?

>>11674511
>Let me wreck my body starving it completely of needed carbohydrates, while putting a huge strain on my kidneys overconsuming protein

>>11675217
>garbohydrates
>needed
laughinghyenas.avi

2:3 IF, protein bomb on first day after fasting, then ketogenic diet until the fast resumes

"Fasting is beneficial if you are eating a diet that contains carbohydrates. The reason fasting is beneficial is because of the absence of damaging, inflammatory carbohydrates in the body, not the lack of food.

Sugar damages our bodies in many ways. There is no benefit of eating sugar, so eliminating sugar is a huge relief to our bodies. You can read all about the why and how sugar is so damaging in this article by Gary Taubes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=0

Eliminating wheat products and gluten is another reason fasting is beneficial. Wheat products, even so called healthy low carb fiber rich wheat products, are damaging to our bodies in many ways. The over consumption of wheat products is responsible for the growth of many metabolic diseases like Celiac disease, Diabetes and Heart disease. Wheat products also use up more nutrients in your body creating the need for supplements.

Fiber is another product that is wreaking havoc on our digestive symptoms. The human body cannot digest fiber. All it does is run through our intestines scaring them up and stealing water and nutrients from our bodies. Since I started a zero carb diet over 8 years ago, I can personally testify that no fiber is needed for intestinal health. In fact, the reason I am still ZC after all these years is because it cured me of life long digestive issues. Read all about the dangers and problems caused by dietary fiber here.
https://www.gutsense.org/fiber-menace/what-is-so-menacing-about-fiber.html

Fruit is high in carbohydrates and fructose. Fructose is more damaging than sugar (sucrose), especially harmful to our immune systems. I wrote a little about that in this post. Why would we want to put anything in our bodies that is going to suppress our immune system?! You can read more about the specific dangers of fructose here.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/86/4/895/4649668"

>>11675338
missing links on fructose
http://www.zerocarbhealth.com/index.php/category/diet/sugar-sweetners/
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/leukocytic_index.html#.XCaWRlxKiCj

>the countries with the longest life expectancy consume a great deal of carbs
It's almost as if carbs are a good thing, in moderation, and ketofags/carnivores are just peddling the latest fad diets that don't yield real results

>>11674823
>*have you had any of these?*
none
only non-chlorinated tap water (europe)

i think you're overcomplicating things, cause this does not add up

>>11674903
are you high?

>>11675217
>needed carbohydrates
your liver will produce every carbohydrate you truly need

>>11675338
hate to break it to you but you're not zero carb. When you exhale CO2, one of those oxygens comes from H2O and the other comes from carbohydrates.

>t. organic chem student

>>11675338
>>11675546
carbs effect us mentally the same as hard drugs uppers, psychostimulants, just to a (much) lesser extend

>>11674903
>cleanser
>detox
Bullshit detected.

>>11675619
That's a ridiculous crock of shit. The healthiest, longest-living people in the world get 45-55% of their daily calories from carbohydrates. Anybody that rails against an entire macronutrient is ignorant, end of story.

>be eating small amount, healthy foods and losing weight leading up to christmas
>Parents come over for christmas and insist they prepare everything
>Eat fuck huge amounts of sandwhiches and seafood and other bullshit
>Gassy for 3 days, liquidy shit
>Never again

>>11675634
i didn't speak of physical effects
i also never claimed hard drugs are inherently and exclusively negative

>>11673934
So what would happen if you instead of eating, got completely wasted on alcohol on day 11?

>>11676095
alcohol is already pretty much at maximum impact capacity and especially velocity after more or less 2 days probably, but yeah the impact would be extreme.
idk if it would provoke those same unfavorable effects

>>11673934
Fruits are a meme. They are basically vegetables with sugar. You can get all your minerals, vitamins and fibre from veggies.

How the fuck do people do fasts or water fasts? Do you not work or something? If I go a day without eating the next day I'm absolutely crippled by migraines

>>11678178
because you're an addict and don't know it

>>11673934
It's just you.

>>11678178
>If I go a day without eating the next day I'm absolutely crippled by migraines

You have a medical condition of some kind. That's not normal.

>>11678351
you can't claim that without trying it yourself

>>11678178
Neets

>>11674961
>links Amerilard study as “proof”

>>11678627
https://www.snakediet.com/

>>11673934
>>11673934
of course fruit isn't good for you retard
Why do you think steve jobs is dead af now
&he ate exclusively fruits

>>11675303
>>11675587
I imagine that if you work out frequently or have a high-labor job then removing carbs would be rather detrimental to performance

>>11678346
Am I also a water addict? An oxygen addict? I have a relatively active lifestyle so eating is kinda necessary to keep up the pace.

>>11673934
fruits are considered healthy because they contain a lot of nutrients and are less calorie dense than a lot of foods in a traditional Western diet. An apple has as many calories as 2 rashers of bacon. I could easily eat 10 pieces of bacon but I would be tired of apples by the time I got to 5

>>11679685
it's all in the ingredients
for example >>11675619

>>11679802
more likely by the time you got to no 3 or 2 even

>>11675217
I eat about 200g of pasta everyday and even I know you're retarded.