/ck/ - Food & Cooking

source?

(not saying you're wrong, just curious)

also, for me, it's almond butter

>>11617890
Water scarcity is a meme. Oat milk is better than almond milk though

>>11617890
allergic to them anyways.

For me it's water

oat milk is better anyway

>>11617890
Also PUFA rich. Cashew is much better, but fucking expensive.

>>11618014
I mean yeah she was probably pretty happy she got to live instead of dying from starvation or a jackal ripping her gut open and letting her bleed out over the course of 5-6 hours.

also yeah water's usually my favorite. I don't realy like the taste of milk, too many calories for me too.

>>11618027
The alternative is not being bred into torture and a death at 1/20th of her lifespan rather.

>>11618034
How dare you suggest such reasonable alternatives

>>11618034
That's an alternative. But instead people will just turn to hunting and killing them instead, because some people like the meat and milk and resources.
It's like saying "the alternative is just to stop having war". Sure it'd be nice, but whoever stops first is going to get their face blown off by the competition. In this case, in terms of profit.

also cows of the modern age are dumb as a fucking box of rocks, if you let them out into the wild they'd freeze to death because they don't know how to do shit.

>>11618034
This was probably drawn by someone who is "pro-choice"

>>11618065
Totally accurate and fair comparison anon.

>>11618070
I mean that's the comparison so that image is going for. If his post isn't accurate or fair, then your image isn't either.

Can someone explain to me why the fuck oat drink is so fucking expensive? Oats cost fuck all, so why is oatly etc over twice as expensive as full fat milk?

>>11618070
Cats can do just fine by themselves though.

>>11618060
You could say that about a lot of domesticated animals. Also, hunting is way better for everyone and everything involved

>>11617890
The truck bees in to pollinate the Almonds. And truck them back out as they are rentals.

>>11618065

>>11618105
>human life is worth the same as animal life
this is your brain on an ideological starvation diet

The amount of soy in this thread is too damn high

>>11618070
Domesticated cats are among the most successful hunters on earth and can survive just fine without human care. Witness the "feral cat overpopulation" spergouts on >>>/an/

>>11618118
Nice Strawman
This is your brain on overconsumptive NPC ideology

>>11618084
Until they end up hunted to extinction because there's no sustainable product.
>buh hunting limits
and then we're right back at the begining, people wanting a change.

>>11618105
Joke's on you, though. I'm all for abortions myself. Especially when blacks get them.
I just don't want to pay for it. Just like I don't expect you to pay for my steak.

>>11618159
There are loads of sustainable meat alternatives and year round produce everywhere in the first world. Not to mention the advancements they're making with lab grown meat

>>11618027
When predators kill for food in the wild they kill as rapidly as possible since a struggling animal is very likely to cause injury. They usually go for the neck, either severing the spinal chord or puncturing the jugular/carotid arteries both of which kill fast.

>>11618156
>everyone I disagree with is an NPC
>every argument I can't refute is a strawman
eat some chicken ffs, your brain is literally atrophied

>>11618195
>meat alternatives
okay, people don't generally like meat alternatives though. So they'll stick to what they know instead because people don't like change. You can produce as much cricket meat and lab grown fungus as your heart desires, people are not going to want to spend $50 for a pound of lab meat, or eat fucking bugs. Sorry to break it to you. It ain't gonna change until it's cheaper than actual meat. Not the same price, people aren't going to want to try some new "weird" thing. it has to be cheaper. And that won't ever happen. the beef industry in particular will cut their margins even thinner if it means remaining in business.

>>11618233
Lab grown meat will be in direct competition with real meat in the next 2 to 4 years brah. Humanity advances. Sticking to the old ways is a quick way to stagnate or even fall backward. Sorry to break it to you, the meat industry is going to experience some turbulence real soon. Hell it already is. The trend right now is consuming less and less meat. More alternatives pop up every day

>>11618246
>the trend
no, the vocal minority screams about it. Meat still takes up just as much shelf space as it has for the last 3 decades. Hip and trendy restaurants now serve more vegan options. That's a good thing. Mcdonalds has vegan options even. Doesn't change that when you say mcdonalds, 99% of people think big mac and chicken nuggets.
Don't get your hopes up about that change. I'd like to see it if only for more variety and competition in the market. But I think it's unlikely.

>>11618118
>A fetus is a living being

>>11618246
>2 to 4 years
You wish. Those things always develop very slowly.

>>11618261
https://www.fastcompany.com/40565582/lab-grown-meat-is-getting-cheap-enough-for-anyone-to-buy

>>11618291
And it's not gonna have any strange chemicals in it, right? It'd be sure hypocritical of you to decry Mcdonalds for putting steroids in their chicken, only for lab scientists to do the same.

>>11618301
>strange chemicals
What's a strange chemical to you

>>11618246
>>11618291
I hope so, I've been following this shit for a long time and waiting. I'm not a vegan but I think if we could have real meat and other animal products without having to kill for it, then that's obviously better. Just hope it's nutritionally the same because some of the information from some companies had them saying it has no fat, no iron, etc. and trying to say it's healthier when they most likely don't know how or can't produce those things yet so they try to turn it into a positive. Even if it doesn't taste quite as good, I'd still switch to eating that instead if it was nutritionally the same.

>>11618070
Imagine being dumb enough to make this picture.
Imagine being dumb enough to repost it.

>>11618308
Yeah I heard about the fat thing too. Idk I'm pretty optimistic on the stuff. I should've dumped some money into the stocks awhile ago though

>>11617890
Everyone itt drives and everyone that sell almond milk too
>fucking oat water
Next I'll I'll be wearing a saddle and neighing

>>11617890
Fuck you, OP. My mother had an allergy. A bee killed her when I was seven. I watched it happen.

>>11618467
that's pretty cool right on man

>>11618034
>thinking a domestic breed could achieve its full lifespan in the wild

Nah most won't survive their first calving without someone there to pull the calf. Once again an "animal activist" shows how absolutely clueless they are.

>>11618034
>the alternative is never existing

I know vegans have depression related to their malnutrition, but does that mean you have to project your suicidal wishes onto every other living thing?

>>11618488
Sounds like you need someone to talk to, anon

>>11617890
>coasties stop drinking real milk because of cruelty or some shit
>end up ruining the environment looking for alternatives
great job guys

>>11618488
Projection

>>11618467
Pics or it didn't happen.

range ban vegans

>>11617890
>stop eating [x]
You vegans are getting too demanding.

>>11618304
Water

how bout coconut milk tho

>>11618654
Disgusting

>>11618658
okay yea but damn i dont want to kill no bees, i love those honey boys

>>11618545
We will literally die if we kill bees you ignorant sister fucker

>>11618667
Try rice milk. It's actually delicious

>>11618690
I love rice milk its actually pretty creamy for plant based milk, but its high in calories and since i drink alot of this stuff im worried about high consuption of rice products

>>11618329
Imagine being dumb enough to miss the point.
Imagine not looking at the picture and the pic it replied to and not seeing the overlap.

>>11618700
Exercise

>>11618755
i do, but if i can go lower kcal i will

How does water become "scarce" ? Does it drip into the earth and evaporate in heck?

>>11618673
We breed bee colonies by the thousands. If a few more have colony collapse you simply have to pay a little more so they can breed more.

>>11618196
>When predators kill for food in the wild they kill as rapidly as possible

And when humans kill farm animals by law they stun them unconscious before killing them with a bolt gun which is even more quick and painless to the animal. They literally do not feel a thing nor have any of the foreboding of a predator in their sight, nor feel it sink its fangs into flesh...

Predators may aim to kill 'as quickly as possible' but in reality you know as well as I that that is not always the case. Some predators do toy with their food, others injure the animal in such a way that it does not directly kill it. They wound their prey and thier prey can no longer keep up with the rest of the herd for protection. They fall behind and slowly die from blood loss/starvation in their physically weakened state.

>Almond trees
>demanding water
wtf, the trees grow wild there, and it's mediteranean-dry climate.

>>11618034
>the alternative is cultural genocide and you obeying me because I was first in the cult and thus at a higher social class
YIKES

>>11618246

>Muslim populations rising
>Central part of faith includes the slaughter of an animal at time of year and to share that animal meat with the community or poor

Too bad bub. Vegans aren't going to get to any substantial number to overcome religious sanctioned meat slaughter.

>>11618860
The rampant incest in the middle east will naturally quell the population with horrific genetic mutations and diseases

>>11618258
https://youtu.be/Fat-ASCJWZo

>>11617890
>water intensive
Yes, of course. Water absorbed by tree roots is destroyed forever and removed from the ecosystem.

>>11618196
You’ve literally never seen a cat with a mouse.

>>11618164
based and redpilled

>>11618308
It's the morally right thing to do regarding meat, and it's hopefully not too far off into the future. Vegans and vegetarians will flock to cultured meat once it's affordable.

>>11619171
That's a caul birth you absolute flyover brainlet Kool aid chugging fucktard

>>11620068
I don't care about context. If you don't think the fetus in the video is alive at fifteen weeks you're subhuman.

>>11617890
Now I'm curious, what do people do to trees with a shitload of flowers to mak them harmful to bees? And does the same apply to cherries?

>>11617992
Depends on the area.

>>11619070
Good thing they get plently of genetically diverse women to breed all across Europe

>>11620125
How did so many fine countries turn into literal cucks in less than a century

>>11620137
You know how.

>>11620137
True. Americans should have killed european refugees on sight.

>>11620083
>I don't care about context.
Ah. I see. Enjoy your magical thinking..have a good night.

>>11620167
So you can rationalize that the fetus in the video responding to stimulus is not "alive". Your ideology has blinded you.
>have a good night
Running away little bitch.

>>11620143
Blaming the jews is just a cop out that negates the personal responsibility Europeans and americans need to take for ruining western civilization through bunk elected officials.

>>11620190
>A child that is.already born is a fetus.
I see your utter retardation has blinded you. Sadly you're too dumb to run away, thus I must. For both our sake.

>>11620199
You can blame the host or you can blame the virus. Europe and America have been subverted by an insidious force via otherwise noble social constructs.

>>11620207
Oh, you're playing the gotcha game. So that child wasn't alive fifteen minutes prior when it was safely tucked away in its mother's womb. I see now. You're the one practicing magical thinking.

>>11617890
gonna go buy some almond milk

>>11618034
this is the shittiest pic I have seen in a while

>>11620207
What an absolute brainlet.

>>11618105
I value human life more than animals.

>>11620098
>what do people do to trees with a shitload of flowers to mak them harmful to bees?
Pesticides. Also bees are trucked in from all over America to pollinate the almond orchards in California. This makes it very easy for honeybee diseases and pests to spread as the bees from different colonies mingle. Once pollination season is over, the hives are trucked back to their original apiaries, where the bees then can spread the diseases they picked up to the local honeybee population.

>>11618196
Lol you are so wrong. Watch how hyenas eat sometime, you'll have nightmares

>>11618196
Delusional af
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmwC9HzcWbQ

>>11618246
Then why the hell is good ribeye still $17 a fucking pound?

>>11618034
by this logic vegans should be anti abortion but i doubt that's the case for many

>>11620217
Who's playing gotcha? Seems like you. You're talking about abortion, which is rarley available after 24 weeks and even then never as late as a full term child ffs. Now YOU are relying on the technical definition of fetus to advance your argument by posting a child that has been born then saying well fifteen minutes ago it was a fetus. You're a fucking moron.

>>11620265
Stop trying to defend abortion so hard, Shlomo. We're onto you.

>>11618673
Swriois question: what is it about almonds that is bad for bees? Aren't honeybees "farmed" for the purpose of pollinating almonds which would increase the demand and therefore population of this introduved species? Are the almonds being treated woth neonicitinoids or something (which would be illegal and the neonic's fault not the almond's)?

>>11618196
Veganism has merits but don't pretend nature isn't cruel and horrific

>>11620265
If you can't connect the fact that a 15 week old fetus looks and acts like a human baby to pre-24 week abortion being an abomination, there's no de-programming you and you're better off just being culled for the sake of the herd.

I've yet to find a better milk than almond milk.

It's cheap, good, and soy/estrogen free. What else should I be drinking if it's so bad for the environment? Oat milk is too expensive.

>>11618078
(((big oats)))

>>11620271
Oh cool. A misdirect and ad hominem. Thanks for playing.

>>11618014

The suffering makes them taste better.

>>11620273
nvm this guy answered it
>>11620236
also fuck me and my typos I may actually be retarded

>>11618467
She must have done something pants on head retarded if she got stung to death. Bees don't just go around stinging people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQJ8bJj1XIs

>>11620283
So you're not defending abortion? Nice misdirect.

>>11620280
>a 15 week old fetus looks and acts like a human baby
it doesn't.
>The bulk of the scientific literature on the subject, however, finds that the brain connections needed to feel pain are not in place until at least 24 weeks, which is also the earliest possible time a fetus becomes viable outside the womb.
>Crucially, the co-ordinated brain activity required for consciousness does not occur until 24-25 weeks of pregnancy. We cannot say when consciousness first emerges, but it cannot rationally be called before the end of the second trimester at 24 weeks of pregnancy.
>Some campaigners have incorrectly stated that the formation of organs in the first trimester means that a baby is fully formed by week 12. While most organs are indeed present as very basic structures by week 12 of pregnancy, they are in fact missing many crucial components and some, such as the eyes, liver and pancreas are only beginning to develop. Importantly, the thalamus (necessary for pain and conscious perception) does not appear until the end of the second trimester, and the folding of the cortex does not develop until the third trimester.

>>11620281
Have you had hazelnut milk? It's hard to find because fucking nutella buying all the hazelnuts but they're mostly grown in like Nebraska and Oklahoma with no extra water and little to no pesticides. Hazelnut milk is absolute GOAT tier.

>>11620301
no but that sounds good. i live in austin so there's a lot of this boujee shit around i'm sure i can find it. i'll keep an eye out.

>>11618467
>A bee killed my mother
And now we know the origin of Monsanto

>>11620300
>working this hard to justify murder of the unborn
Yup, marked for the cull.

>>11620318
>Many believe that a human being is defined by a unique human genome, and a new life begins at conception. Nobody can really tell you when an individual life begins, however depending on your values, the facts can help show when a life does not begin.

>A genetically unique cell called a zygote is formed at fertilisation (normally two weeks into the gestational period). This divides into a “blastocyst” over the following seven to 10 days, until implantation in the womb at three weeks. The implanted blastocyst becomes an embryo at eight weeks, and can only begin to be considered an immature foetus by 11-12 weeks.

>If life begins at fertilisation, then the morning-after pill, which is legal and accepted in Ireland, is a form of termination that would be morally indistinguishable from a late-term abortion.

>>11620331
Anything after 3 weeks is objectively murder.

>>11620212
I blame the host for not keeping healthy and staving off the virus. Jews have been around for thousands of years. Blaming them for this is just passing the buck.

>>11620341
This right? Sharks gonna shark, jews gonna jew. It was mens greed, and the need to keep Jews around so that they could commit the sin of Usury while circumventing moral and ecclesiastic law, that caused them to invite them in.

>all this abortion hate

I've never understood why 4chan attracts so many hardcore christfags these days

>>11620350
People on /pol larped as stormfags until the dim.thought they were unironically welcome.

>>11620350
newfags from reddit came and saw people being ironic and thought they were serious. that's literally all it is.

>>11620350
We're tired of (((their))) shit and realizing that we don't have to take it anymore. Simple as that.

>>11620366
haha yeah! you sure showed him!

>>11620366
>implying the whole world is just jews v christians

what a fuckin ego

>>11620366
This much cringe in just one post!
A tip o the fedora to you too sir.

>>11620318
>>11620337
I'm anti abortion but you're a fucking retard

>>11620366
jesus man please step away from the internet

>>11620363
not true. nobody larps in /pol/

>>11618014
Hanging them upside down and slitting their throats is what mudslimes and kikes do. No cow being tortured to death like that is happy or tastes good which is why they have to use so much spice or weird time consuming processes with their beef.

>>11618246
>the trend right now is consuming less and less meat
Maybe in Fagifornia. In the real world people eat the same.amount of meat that we always have.

>>11620309
>boujee

>>11618034
>humanely
>not swinely
fucking vegans

>>11620484
This is the kind of thing going on in California. Don't think we're all soy cucks.

>>11618105
Animals don't have souls
>>11618118
This

>>11620741
fucking source my dude?

>>11620930
@bartz.barbecue on Instagram
Traveling BBQ truck that frequents LA area breweries
Also look at @heritagebarbecue for similar itinerant bbq in Orange county (pic related is theirs)

>>11618034
>eating a baby
If this is anything other than anti-veal propaganda they fucked up (even though veal age is more like a teenager development-wise, so still pretty embarrassing).
>muh male newborn chicks
Yep, those don't make it to the table. 0/10.

>>11618196
Wolves kill shee just for fun

>>11621852
>If this is anything other than anti-veal propaganda they fucked up
Suckling pig ...

>>11617890

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory

Just added a 10 lbs bag to my next Amazon order; thanks for the tip, OP!

>>11618196
Pack hunters just swarm and feast, don't worry killing it. Lone hunters make sure it is dead before they eat.

>>11620914

Humans are merely animals, good and evil are a meme created by kin selection and reciprocal altruism, and the universe doesn't care.

>>11622163

>>11618070
lmao the butthurt libertarian salt in response to this image is hilarious

>>11618196

When predators kill food in the wild, they don't actually bother making sure it's dead before they begin to eat. As long as it's disabled and can't move, they will eat it alive, letting it suffer in total agony as it watches and feels itself get devoured. While some species to tend to deliver killing blows, this usually comes at the end of a long hunt where the victim was harried, harassed, and bled out until the point of utter exhaustion, and is by no means "killed as rapidly as possible."

>>11622314
Fun fact: Humans are the only animal that kills and tortures for "fun." You make it sound as if wild animals are as evil as homo sapiens which derives pleasure from killing and torturing both life and the earth itself.

>>11622356
>evil and good exist in nature

>>11622356
>Fun fact: Humans are the only animal that kills and tortures for "fun."
Not even remotely true.

>>11622356
you have obviously never owned a cat if you think that's true, cats will torture mice and frogs for hours until they are dead

>>11622240

Oh (((You))).

>>11622356
>Fun fact: Humans are the only animal that kills and tortures for "fun."

lol ignorant vegas, I grow chickens and practically every year some animal kills some of them, it's usually a weasel or fox, but sometimes its a raccoon, they don't eat them, they don't even take bites from them, they just kill as many of them as possible. One year I had a weasel get inside the house and kill over 20 chickens, it didn't eat any of them before leaving.

>>11618673
Are honeybees the only pollinator? Are honeybees native to the Americas?

>>11618034

Wolves and bears do not typically kill in that fashion for one. Sounds like you're parroting vegan propaganda without doing anything of you're own research.

>>11617929
do some research, one almond takes about 4 litres of water to grow.

>>11618208
Imagine being so retarded you didn't learn your fallacies in middle school. What country are you from anon?

>>11622479
What? How was that implied? Are you stupid? God I love these vegan threads. It always brings the DUMBEST fucking people. It's like going to the special Olympics to laugh at retards. Easy.

>>11622356
Fun fact: you're an ignorant retard.

>>11622437
Habitat destruction and pesticides have diminished the non-honeybee pollinators far below levels necessary to pollinate even a fraction of the agricultural crops which is why farmers pay a shitload of money to have apiaries truck in honeybees for pollination of crops.

>>11617890
I am mildly allergic to almonds, so sure thing OP

>>11621727
Fuck, I'm in NorCal. Any good shit like this around Sacramento? I just moved here from South Carolina in August.

>>11622140
Ah yes, that most popular of dishes

>>11623381
wow, you sure showed him.

>>11618196
Centipedes.

>>11617890

Mm mm, bitch!

>>11618014
They must be retarded if they think a child wrote this.
Even worse if an adult has piss poor handwriting with a limited vocabulary wrote this

>>11618034
I'd love to see a black mirror episode like this

>>11621727
>>11620741
I'm here in Monterey
I'm gonna have to make a trip now.
Thank you

>>11623943
You have great local beer up and down the Central Coast, but it's still worth taking a socal long weekend trip to tour the brewery and food truck scene. The drive is less than five hours as long as you avoid peak traffic.

>>11620741
>>11621727
Santa Maria style BBQ is fantastic. Easily the most underrated of the genre
>>11623807
Kinders is a great regional chain in NorCal. Their ball tip and tri tip sandwiches are dank. Anyone that does a good tri tip tho will be a good lead, peep mom and pop corner stores and see if they're smoking something its usually tri tip or chicken quarters.

>>11618196
you've never seen that liveleak vid of crocs going after a zebra, have you?

>>11617890
Fuck bees

>>11622356
t. took freshman humanities course

Mark Twain is a retard btw

>>11617890
Nothing wrong with this at all

>>11618034
So many butt-blasted carnists, sorry m8. It invariably becomes “but you’re not pro-life”!!!! even if you are

>>11625648
https://youtu.be/8CvqmD0CZao

>>11625820
>not the Super Mario Galaxy version

Pathetic

>>11618034
A swine will happily eat a human child if given the chance.

>>11618673
Cool.

>>11622306
>3(three) whole responses
Marxists never cease to amuse me

>>11622356
Oops, looks like your argument fell apart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_killing

>>11618196
Uh, no, retard. Predators try NOT to kill them so their hearts can keep pumping fresh blood. They eat them torturously from the ass up while they scream in agony

>>11618196
In the wild a lot of predators basically torture prey by handicapping them so the young predators can practice killing them and since theyre so small and inexperienced its extremely painful.

Bees started this shit, i'm ending it.

>>11618291
>Literally eating cancer

>>11617890
If you eat literally anything farmed by major corporate farms you are contributing to the extinction of pollinating insects (and by extension the total collapse of our food supply). Enjoy having grocery stores full of every vegetable and fruit you could want while you can, because in a few decades that won't be a thing anymore.

>>11618291
Not going to happen in the near future, they're just shilling for more VC cash. They don't have the tech to create growth medium from plant matter, that might be solved with genetically engineered bacteria and yeasts ... that's existing tech. The far bigger problem is how to clean it during production.

Dialysis is a far inferior, highly complex and expensive alternative to a real kidney and that's a billion dollar industry which has existed for over half a century.

Until we have Star Trek replicators or we can just genetically engineer tubular cows without a central nervous system, the only scalable way to get animal cells is for a normal animal to grow them.

>>11617890
they cost a lot of water, they HELP bees. so it evens out for the lefties.

>>11620300
>>11620350

Denying that a human fetus is alive is pseudoscience. So if someone hates abortion because they realize its murder. I can't say they are inherently wrong.

>>11629102
there's a big leap between "alive" and "human being"

>>11620684
Kek

>>11618467
t. Maculey culkin

>>11628981
The almond industry doesn't help bees lmao. See >>11620236

>>11617890
Fuck bees and fuck bee keepers

>>11625898
>if you're not a libertarian you're a marxist
exactly the kind of thinking I'd expect desu