/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11590440
The fuck?

>>11590440
the coldest point would be the one facing my wife
hey, alright! you're a good crowd.

>>11590451
you know, like when you poor soup into a bowl fresh off the stove, you check for the coldest point to eat from by taking a little bit of each point on your spoon and slowly tasting it

>>11590468
I have never heard of anyone doing this and it makes no sense whatsoever but sure.

>>11590468
Isn't that shit, like, stirred?

>>11590496
what are you talking about? why would you want to burn yourself? So you find the coldest spot, and eat the soup from there. I thought more people do this...?

>>11590507
Either way, there's always a colder spot that goes right down to the bottom of the bowl. I've homemade soup, made canned soup, and ordered soup at the restaurant, and I've had the same experience every single time

>>11590440
posting in epic bread

>>11590515
It's soup, a dish mostly made of liquid. Why would there be a cold spot?

>>11590536
I don't know, I just figured it was like how the planet has colder spots even though under the surface, it's liquidy like soup
But the cold spot is always there, and I find it before starting to eat my soup
You should try it anon

>>11590440
what the fuck

>>11590553
Nah, I'm perfectly fine with soup eating habits that aren't insane.

>>11590440
I think what op is doing is taking small bites of his entire soup until he reaches the original spot where, because of how long he's been autistically examining the temperature, the soup has become colder.

>>11590536
A lot of soups are too thick to have natural convection. Thus the soup near the surface or the sides of the bowl will be cooler than that in the center.

Why doesn't OP make his soup slightly thicker then just add an ice cube

>>11590515
>why would you want to burn yourself?
I wouldn't. But hunting around for cold spots like some kind of turbosperg is not required for avoiding burns.

>>I thought more people do this...?
How many nanoseconds have you spent in the real world, anon?

HELL yeah

>>11590594
It's been working just fine for me, I've been doing it since I started eating soup and I even thought it was more common

>>11590596
>>11590604
no no, the soup's cold spot goes all the way down, to the bottom of the bowl. You use a bit of surface soup to test which direction on the bowl is coldest; and it's not always the same

>>11590605
maybe I will try that, but my method has been working pretty well

>>11590612
I just thought it was like, a soup hack.

>>11590604
Have you ever heard of stirring?

>>11590633
but that might make the cold spot go away, and I'd have to wait longer to eat the soup?

>>11590625
>since I started eating soup
Was this some kind of a markable point in your life?

>>11590625
Good luck op. I hope you are high on something and not always this crazy.

>>11590637
I think you'll find a uniformly cooked and heated soup will taste better, negating the slightly longer wait time

>>11590650
How is it crazy? I just know this cool trick to eating soup, and it works great. Really thought it was more known

>>11590638
yeah I started eating soup, and I found the trick almost right away

>>11590651
I like soup, but the cold spot just helps me eat it right away. The soup is already fully cooked!

ITT OP doesn't comprehend the second law of thermodynamics

>>11590440
What the hell you dumb OP just EAT THE SOUP NORMALLY PLEASE!

>>11590662
Cold spots indicate that it is not fully cooked, and there's really nothing wrong with that since it sounds like you're really re-heating canned soup, but if you ever make a soup for yourself, please stir it.

This is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. How could there be a cold spot in a liquid that was very likely stirred around right before serving hot. Just one spot.
I love the autism in this board.

I think OP may have only ever had soup heated in a microwave.

>>11590676
I said to another anon above that I do make soup for myself regularly (I like soup) and I also go order soup at restaurants. The cold spot truth holds!

>>11590678
I'm not sure, like I said I think it's some sort of soup hack (for eating soup). It's like a spot that is 3D in the bowl

based autistic OP

>>11590686
But I don't own a microwave

>>11590674
I am! With a spoon! But this trick is great to eat the soup better, and faster?

>>11590688
I don't believe you, but this is what you're experiencing: >>11590596
What are you diagnosed with?

How do you find the cold spot? Do you go in with a thermometer or poke it with a finger or how does this work out for you?

>>11590456
based dangerfieldposter

>>11590714
no no, you take your spoon, and you sort of sift little bits from the North, South, East, and West points on the bowl. One bite at a time from each part of the bowl. Then you pick the coldest spot, and search again around that area for the actual cold spot! Works every time. using fingers might ruin the point of the cold spot, to not burn yourself

>>11590704
i guess i don't get what you mean? It doesn't make me long to find the cold spot. Probably because I'm really good at it

>>11590726
Oh ok. Do you need a compass to determine where north is?

>>11590726
Is the cold spot usually the last direction in which you take a bite from?

How do you know that the real cold spot isn't in the middle of the soup?

>>11590734
No, I just say north is the point farthest away from me

>>11590746
not always! Like I said, I'm good at finding the spot now.

If it confuses anyone the method, I made a little bit of a guide to help new cold spot hunters out. I rushed it
I seriously thought this was like a well known thing, I always think I see people doing it in restaurants

>>11590753
Good question, but if you sort of think of soup as 3D cylinders all lined up and packed tight together, you have a cold spot and the surrounding cylinders are slightly cold, and the farthest cylinders are hottest... most of the time

>>11590756
Thank you for your helpful guide! :)

>>11590756
I'm still a bit confused. How do you determine the depth of the coldest spot?

>>11590662
>I just know this cool trick to eating soup
Things you never think you'd read

>>11590759
I have no idea what this means.

>>11590765
it basically goes all the way from the top to bottom of the soup bowl
>>11590753
>>11590759
I made pic related to show you what I mean about the soup cylinders

>>11590771
try it sometime anon, it has never failed me!

>>11590440
>Travel
>around the perimeter of a bowl
Are you half a centimeter tall OP? fucking manlets.

>>11590780
with your spoon anon, the spoon travels (you make it do that) but you know what I mean

>>11590779
Alright, next time I eat soup (tomorrow probably) I will do it and post results.
Good thread, btw. It's gotten a few chuckles out of me.

>>11590779
I made this for you OP you dumb faggot shit

>>11590797
ya, go anon! spread the trick! see if you can see other people doing it when you go to restaurants too

You should mark your bowl where the cold spot is and see if the mark matches up next time you eat soup. Irregularities in the bowl may be the cause. If so you would save time by pre-charting your bowls.

>It's like a spot that is 3D in the bowl
>think of soup as 3D cylinders all lined up and packed tight together
This is hilarious.
Also I'm going to try this the next time I have soup.

OP, do you have a name for this little activity?

>>11590827
this guy might be onto something. with some more research into this we maybbe able to produce bowls with intentional irregularities to have a consistent cold spot, say in the middle, every time. think of all the time we can save with this!

>>11590827
>>11590840
I usually use a different bowl depending on the kind of soup, but maybe that could work? I'll think about it. I'm pretty happy with the speed I can find the spot right now as is

>>11590828
Good! Give it a try! It's a neat trick/soup hack.
I guess I just started calling it soup hack in this thread, haha, but I never had a name for it before. And I'm not sure if soup hack is a good name because there's lots of hacks for eating soup
but I usually like to pretend I'm an explorer, except a bit in reverse: im in the *arctic* and I'm searching for the *warm spot* haha

>>11590854
cold spot hunting?

>>11590440
>Autism- The thread

>>11590440
B A S E D S O U P P O S T E R

OP needs to learn some fluid mechanics. This is simply not how temperature in soups works (particularly, "soup cylinders").
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_equation

>>11590864
no one cares about that gay shit; we soup cylinder now

>>11590869
"Soup cylinders" are irrational and deranged. Take your delusions back to 4chan.

>>11590861
okay! let's all be cold spot hunters!

>>11590864
I didn't click the link but how is it that I can find the spot every time if you think it doesn't exist? It's literally always the same depth and radius too, just big enough that it goes a little past my spoon's radius
pic related

>>11590882
>but how is it that I can find the spot every time if you think it doesn't exist?
Because you're schizophrenic.

>>11590827
I don't think irregularities in the average round bowl would matter much. If anything does matter, it's the direction from which you pour the soup in the bowl.

OP, have you been consistently pouring the soup from the same direction in your cardinal system? If not, try pouring it from the 'north' everytime and see where the cold spot emerges.

>>11590879
>>11590883
Can't you just try it out? No? then don't come attack us!

>>11590885
But some of my bowls are much deeper than others
Today I started off by pooring the soup with the pot opening facing towards me, and then partway through I made a bit of a mess and nearly burned myself, so I switched to pooring into the bowl with the pot opening facing away from me, and the bottom of the pot facing towards me
I could try it out, but the cold spot is different basically every time you have soup

>>11590895
just tried it. didn't work. why do you lie, OP?
unless you can provide proof then this is all a big ruse.

>>11590895
What the fuck do you mean by pot opening? Are you tilting the pot as you get soup?

I don't like it

>>11590909
Just this time, because I only made enough for one bowl. When I got a big crock pot or a big pot, I use a ladle. and then they just serve it to me normally in restarants I guess.

>>11590907
Maybe you need some practice..?

>>11590909
I've stopped trying to make sense of any of this and am just waiting for the next insane rambling.

>>11590918
>Maybe you need some practice..?
Proof or else this is all a lie for attention.
How hard is it to make a YouTube video if you're not lying?

>>11590440

>>11590895
>made a bit of a mess and nearly burned myself

>soup cylinders

>>11590440
>tfw trying to process this thread
i'm very confused,OP

>>11590756
> It doesn't make me long to find the cold spot. Probably because I'm really good at it
op i'm lauffing

>>11590934
I could answer any questions... I made a few diagrams posted in thread to help.... but I could make more if you have specific questions....
it's really not that hard, guys..

>2009 + 9 and counting
>he doesn't look for cold spots when eating soup
Never gonna make it.

>>11590946
what soup is the best soup for warmness,op?

>>11590946
Please do. I'm very interested in soup cylinders, cold spots and the science behind all of this. Could you possibly make a vertical diagram of these cylinders?

What's the best soup to make so I'm sure all my soup cylinders are the same temperature?

I'm so happy I logged on today

>>11590975
Chad inherently knows where the cold spot is without thinking about it.

Why don't you just drop an ice cube in your soup like my mom used to do, OP?

>>11590965
Okay, I'm not very good at paint drawing but here is what I made. Let me know if this clears it up. Picture the cilnders in a bowl though! This is just an example.

>>11590975
>>11590977
haha

>>11590981
But why would I, if I have the cold spot?

>>11590971
>>11590957
honestly I don't think there is one. I've had all soups: creams, thik soups, broths, cold soups (gestappo?), bisques, chilis, noodle soups, packaged, at restaurants, home made in crock pot, home made on stove top, and it seems like there's a cold spot every time!
I'll let you guys know if I ever find a non-cold spot soup, although I would be disappointing and unfamiliar to eat

>>11591005
Hang on there's something I don't like about my image: it doesn't really convey that the spot is 3D, the length and size of cylinder.

>>11591005
ah yes this is how soup works i see now

>>11590971
Rhode Island clam chowder, south county style.

>>11591024
No problem. paint is fun, reminds me when I was a kid and we had one family computer and no internet, so I just played around on paint haha
although I'm not a good artist, but hopefully my soup diagrams help potential cold spot hunters (and non-believers)

>>11591019
>cold soups (gestappo?)
why are we bringing east berlin into this now?

>>11591005
Thanks op. This is what has been missing from my life. Now I can finally learn how to properly eat soup.

OP, how long does it take you on average to find the cold spot? a minute or so?

You said you're really fast at it now, how long did it used to take you?

>>11591005
how are the cylinders equal depth in a bowl

Get this fucking nerd off my board

In general your whole theory doesn't account for different depths

It's falling apart if you think about it

>>11591045
It's more like a hack to improve your soup eating game, aha
>I made a game for you anon!

>>11591064
>>11591071
It's okay if they're different depths! I don't mind. mostly, they are the same depth tho, and the cold spot is usually where the cylinder touches the very bottom part of the bowl anyway

>>11591068
Shut your whore mouth. OP is a man of fine food science.

No I was wrong, it accounts for depth

Sorry professor soup

>>11591075
Thank you, that's very nice, I appreciate it
I wish I could find a nice picture of a soup for you, but there's so little ariel shots online from what I can see

Toasting an epic bread.

>>11591044
sorry, I meant gespatto. The cold soup! I wonder if it has a warm spot, haha, maybe you can find it?

>>11591074
>>11591061
please respond

>>11591061
Not even a minute, I can find the cold spot in like, three spoon scoops max. I can just try some of a pole and know right away if it's near the cold spot.
Dont really remember it every being very hard for me. Maybe it's one of my 6th senses

OP you should be using a constant irrational rotation dynamical system to determine where you eat your soup. You need an ergodically mixing method if you want to sample all the points in a dense sequence to find a decreasing subsequence converging to the coldest point in the soup.

>>11591098
uh, anon that's cool and all but it's not that hard! with practice you can learn to find the cold spot quick like me and others. I believe in you! Eat your soup!

OP you need to get one of these and really get this soup cylinder dilemma figured out.

>Soup cylinders
We call those "soup cans" OP.

>>11591106
They do make food-safe thermocouples, you know.

>>11591113
No, haha, not the cans! Inside the soup bowl afyer it has been poured out, right? there's cylinders in canned soup, homemade soup, and restaurant soup

>>11591106
That's a fun idea!

>>11591118
But one of those looks much cooler. No pun intended.

OP was not a faggot today

>>11591138
You know what looks cooler?

>>11590756
REEEE NORMIES GET OUT THIS IS AUTISM BOARD NOW

>>11590440
I am confused

>>11591105
No OP, this will not do. The soup forms a compact set in R^3, since it is closed (due to gravity) and bounded (since it fits in the bowl). Also, the function determining soup temperature is clearly continuous in the spatial dimensions. Therefore some spoon of the soup attains the infimum of the range of the temperature function, and the so-called "coldest part of the soup," i.e. a value at which this minimum is attained, is well defined.
Now, to locate this point, we can employ the classical heat partial differential equation which simulates diffusion in a set. Here, we'll use the boundary condition that the bowl begins at a constant room temperature, as does the air. We'll also need an initial condition - here, the temperature of the soup at each point at time t=0 will be determined by its position in the pot pre-pouring.
Propagating the system forward by convolving the heat kernel with the initial condition and normalizing for boundary conditions, we then have, for each time, a function of soup temperature parameterized by distance. Now we can apply a convex optimization method to locate a suitable local minimum. We'd expect it to be near the surface, since that's where the soup gets the most exposure to the air, so we'll pick k points on the surface using a poisson disc-sampling stochastic algorithm (don't wanna pick points too close to one another!) and find local minima near each sample.
This is a much more rigorous and developed plan of action than you suggest. I recommend it because you indicated that you'd like to eat from the coldest point of the soup first, but I'm not sure how you're able to find that to any degree of accuracy without a mathematical proof that the point you've found is indeed the coldest.

>>11591159
It's ok anon. Soup physics just isn't for everyone.

>>11591167
>I'm not sure how you're able to find that to any degree of accuracy without a mathematical proof
Maybe OP is part soup

>>11591159
Would you like me to make another diagram anon? Let me know

>>11591184
Ah! That makes everything a whole lot easier - all OP needs to do is put the part of him that is soup into the soup, and then heat will naturally flow from that part of the soup into OP. Once OP removes himself from the soup, that part of the soup will now be colder than the surroundings.
Unless, of course, OP is made out of hot soup.

>>11591167
Look, you can try and bring up science all you want, you can go and on and on.
But OP has done this multiple times, and has proven his method works. Science says a lot of shit, but the facts here are telling you something else and what are you going to listen to? Theoretical or concrete proof?


Now, until any of you accurately test this yourself and report back the results, I don't want to hear another word of how it doesn't make sense

>>11590756
>I always think I see people doing it in restaurants
D-do other people really do this?!

>>11591228
I think the reaction in this thread clearly indicates otherwise.

>>11591208
What the fuck did you just say to me? Did you just tell me that my proof was "theoretical" but NOT "concrete"??!?!
MY PROOF WAS FUCKING CONCRETE AS ALL SHIT. OP HAS DEVISED A SIMPLE EMPIRICAL ALGORITHM FOR MERELY APPROXIMATING A LOCAL MINIMUM IN THE SOUP.
It's fucking embarrassing, honestly. Humiliating. Trying 3 fucking spoonfuls? How the FUCK IS THAT GOING TO GET YOU ANYWHERE?
How can OP even PROVE that he has found the absolute minimum temperature of the soup? If you don't do any math, then you need to TRY EVERY POINT OF THE SOUP to make sure you haven't missed one! And the instant you've made an assumption about the gradient descent of soup temperature, guess what buddy, you're using FUCKING THEORETICAL MATH!!!!
Never, EVER respond to me with this EMPIRICIST BULLSHIT ever again.

I never realized soup was such serious business.

>>11591236
Sounds like you're getting all worked up because you know you're wrong.
You're throwing theories and hypotheticals out there, but you haven't tried this yourself. It's a very effective way of eating soup and OP is really onto something here, but you've gone full autism trying to dismiss his simple tip to help the rest of /ck/.

As for how he can prove he found the absolute minimum, that's besides the point. He's just finding what seems to be the coldest part and his experience in the field leads me to believe his approximation is much closer than whatever bullshit you're throwing out

>>11591258
Ah I see, I'm dealing with a brainlet here... Go read Principles of Mathematical Analysis by Walter Rudin and maybe then we can have a real debate over what constitutes the objective best soup-eating advice. For now, I will concede that OP's method is perfect for brainlets who do not come equipped with suitable PDE simulation software and at least a Bachelors in Pure Math.

>>11591274
More theoreticals from a retard too caught up in his web of hypotheses to face reality.

Try this yourself. Then and only then can you report back. I did and I haven't enjoyed soup like this in years

this is a verry reddit thread.

>>11591235
I don't think 4chan is very indicative of the real world

>>11591327
OP here, I'm very glad it worked for you anon! Soup gang!

>>11591340
Exactly, so if even this pool of freaks, outcasts and redditors is completely bewildered by it, it's gotta be highly unusual.

Hasn't it occurred to you that the place you perceive as the coldest might feel so because your mouth warned up from the previous tastings? I recommend drinking warm water/green tea beforehand to prepared your mouth before eating hot stuff.
Anyway, toasting with le vin baguette.
>>11591330
Oh shush.

>>11591327
I'll never try such a primitive method. I of course prefer to eat the part of the soup that is of average temperature first, so that the hottest and coldest parts have time to cancel each other out. So I will not be trying either method.
I may, however, publish a paper detailing my soup-eating proposal. Thank you for your input, I'll be able to address it with a rebuttal in my introduction. No worries, you'll get cited.
>>11591342
Fuck you. Fuck you for your worthless inaccurate minimizing method and fuck you for convincing others that it's anything more than psuedoscientific bullshit.

>>11591361
>I of course prefer to eat the part of the soup that is of average temperature first
What's your method for deducing the average temp?

haha XD guys i made a funny. COLDEsT PART OF A SOUP XDDDD DOESNT MAKe Ny SENSE BUT ITS FUNNY CAUSE ITs qwuirky and RANDUMB woof AWOOoooOoOo

good meme guys lets force it, we are legion

>>11591374
cranky because you burned yourself aren't you

>>11591368
mean value property of harmonic functions trivializes finding the average point

>>11591350
How come sometimes I get the cold spot right off the hop?

>>11591361
Wow anon ya you sure are so much smarter than the rest of us; your impractical, time consuming method of selecting the coldest soup cylinder sure makes you smarter than everyone else in this thread, and not the least bit autistic.
You fucking asshole, you do realize real scientists prefer practical methods over autistic theorizing? You piece of shit?
People were doing this kind of science long before science was mainstream and respected. Just look at the father of genetics; you think he knew what the fuck a gene was? No! But he used practical methods to do science! He is better than you!
And OP has probably opened a long shut gate regarding practical soup science! And you! Are! Too! Stupid! To! Take! A! Step! Back! And! Not be a fucking NPC!!!!

>>11590440

>>11590440
based

>>11591374
>being this hot soup cylinder

>>11591361
TRY THE FUCKING SOUP

>>11590440
It is considered bad manners (For very, very formal occasions) to blow at your spoon or swirl it. The correct way it to eat soups from the outside where it is colder.
Or you could wait for the Court’s fool to be eaten by the bear during the show and quickly blow at your soup while everyone else laughs hysterically

Put me in le screencap XD Hi plebbit!

>>11590515
There's no coldest spot you fucking idiot

>>11591573
I don't have to blow at my soup, because I eat from the cold spot

>>11591627
>There's no coldest spot you fucking idiot
Then how do you disapprove the scientific proof in this image right here >>11591005 ?
You can't!

>>11590440
>eating soup after the age of 6

>>11591488
>1488
ABSOLUTELY
B A S E D P O S T I NG

>>11591488
b l e s s e d

>>11591691
>he doesn’t conduct scientific experiments on soup
Ywn make scientific strides in the field of 3D heat cylinders in liquid, anon

>>11590756
>>11590779
>>11590882
>>11591005
>>11591074

>>11590515
>there's always a colder spot that goes right down to the bottom of the bowl.
i think you're delusional, anon. There is no colder spot, and any lack of burns caused by "finding" one is just from placebo.

>>11590779
This anon needs to work on physics problems, their thinking is clearly on a higher level than ours.

I am highly skeptical of the existence of a "cold spot" in soup for several reasons.
When you are actually cooking the soup there may in fact be a cold region (heat travels from the stove to the pot and into the soup), but you're supposed to be mixing the soup while it cooks. This would dissipate any "cold spot" with the rest of the liquid and will create a homogeneous temperature for the entire volume of soup.
Perhaps you could still make an argument that another cold region is created when pouring the soup from the pot to a bowl, but I don't see how (if it even exists) it could be so significantly different than the rest of the soup that you would be able to determine it is indeed a cold spot.

My first reaction to reading your posts is that you simply test the soup until it actually becomes cool enough to drink, but you attribute that only to the spot you happen to be sipping from. Your concept of "soup cylinders" doesn't make any sense either since as soon as you move your spoon or take some soup in it you are displacing lots of soup around it that will fill in that cylinder, making it warmer.

>>11591815
You’re not purposefully trying to get burned idiot read the OP. He’s trying to enjoy his soup

>>11590801
I was out to dinner with partner and family. His brother is a tad off, but I doubt mind at all, something different u suppose. He does this weird stare down down thing and will start making faces, but this time he just said mud farts. It literally played out like your pic with my uncontrollable laughing.

>>11591880
This thread is giving me the same laughs, but on a whole different level, btw. Thanks, OP.

>>11590840
But the middle is always cold if you don't stir and heat it up post stir.

I NEED TO SEE THE FACE OF OP

>>11591891
You never know until you test all the soup cylinders.

>>11591896

There will be no more talk of soup cylinders on this board. This thread is under quarantine.

>>11590779
>3d cylinder

>>11591904
>globe
Fake news. Ulillillia is redpilled and would never keep something like that in his apartment. Or as it's know in the UK; his flat.

>>11591019
>gestappo

>>11591167
Just let the man enjoy his soup

>>11591167
are you the Gestapo soup man?

>>11591200
Hello, do you think you could try making another diagram but with more of an explanation of the math/physics side as well??? I'm not sure I get it right off the cuff. Thanks in advance!

>>11591098
>>11591167
>mathematicians making everything more complicated than it actually is and find the most insane solution possible
Assuming both the dish and the soup are isotropic, and the system is stationary (I'm ignoring the transient due to the dish heating up from room temperature) due to the axial symmetry of the problem, the solution will be axially symmetrical too, meaning that there will be a gradient of temperature through the entire volume of the soup. Convection is the main responsible for the heat exchange in this particular problem because the soup interfaces with air and with the dish, which then interfaces with the air, meaning thus that the gradient in temperature will be stronger towards the free surface of the soup due to the dish acting as a thermal resistance. In other words the soup will be coldest at the surface, then slightly warmer on the interface with the dish, and then it will get hotter towards the baricenter of the volume.

>>11592205
>In other words the soup will be coldest at the surface, then slightly warmer on the interface with the dish, and then it will get hotter towards the baricenter of the volume.
This all depends completely on the temperature, mass and material of the bowl when the soup is poured in.

>>11592267
>no bike pump
Shit chart

Am I retarded? I can't stop giggling at soup cylinder.

>>11591019
>gestappo
oh my god, HAHAHAHA

Soup cylinders do NOT exist.

>>11592338
They're magic soup tunnels and if you're lucky - you can find the cold one!

>>11592338
You just don't see the bigger picture man.

>>11592249
As I said I'm ignoring transients because eventually the bowl will reach stationarity, and so the soup. As long as the soup has higher temperature than the air around it (and around the bowl) there will be heat exchange with the air, and so there will be a temperature gradient in the system. If the bowl's thermal conductivity is really good you can practically ignore its contribution and consider the soup in contact with the bowl as it was directly exposed to air, meaning it would be no different thermally from the free surface of the soup; instead if it's really bad you can consider the bowl perfectly isolating and the only heat exchange happens at the free surface of the soup, meaning the soup would get hotter the deeper you go. The bowl's thermo-optical properties would dramatically change the thermal response of the system if the bowl of soup would be into vacuum, where heat exchange through radiation is the only way to dump energy and effectively establish temperature gradients in the system, but that effect is negligible when there's already convection at play.

>>11592357
Well if you want to go full autist then you can add the humidity and temperature of the air. It won't change that much unless you are eating your soup in the antarctic or the Amazon though.
I'm pretty sure soup cylinders won't happen no matter what the conditions are but who knows.

>>11591432
Can you go fuck yourself for me? I literally PROVED RIGOROUSLY that a COLDEST POINT IN THE SOUP EXISTS and then PROCEEDED TO DESCRIBE A FOOLPROOF METHOD FOR LOCATING IT WITH HIGH TIME EFFICIENCY!!!!!
You STUPID FUCKING PRACTICAL ENGINEER TIER """SCIENTISTS""" COULDN'T FIND THE COLDEST FUCKING POINT IN THE SOUP IF IT WAS STIMULATING YOUR FUCKING PROSTATE!!!!!!!
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>11591862
I already proved in this thread that the soup DOES HAVE a spot of minimum temperature, because temperature is a continuous function and the soup forms a compact set.

>>11592338
FAKE
NEWS

>>11592410
>i dont understand thermodynamics

>>11590440
OP spotted

>>11590625
Have you ever eaten soup that wasn't microwaved? Cause this is only true for microwaved soups.

>>11592425
No, I don't! Why would I understand thermodynamics, I'm a mathematician!
If the soup doesn't act like a linear PDE, it's not worth studying.
Of course I forgot to include convection flow, and I don't know whether that's a linear term. Wonder how that changes things. Not that it matters, just do the same thing as I said but with the right PDE for heated fluid flow.

>>11592434
You obviously don't have OP's skill of detecting the coldest soup cylinder.

>>11592434
I mentioned a couple times in thread that it's okay; it works for canned soup, homemade in crock pot, homemade on stove, and restaurant soup!

>>11592439
>mathematician
>only works with linear PDEs
return your degree you brainlet

>>11592267
Huh?

>>11591019
For me, it's Gestapo, the BEST cold soup cylinder

>>11592543
I work with nonlinear ODEs and dynamical systems, PDEs are great but they're fucking stupid when they're nonlinear.

>>11592649

This is hands down the best thread on /ck/ in many months

>>11592705
Huh?

>>11591019
It's ok anon, you're not the only one
My family makes fun of me, saying that I'm "Making the Gestappo" every time I start blending the tomatoes...

So this is what STEM looks like.

>>11592705
No it isn't it would have been way funnier if he had actually plotted coordinates seeing that he put a x-y axis on the soup not to mention he's eating cream of mushroom but the pic is tomato basil. The idea is alright but the execution is horrid, lazy, and forgettable.

>>11592725
>he doesn't know what a stock image is
god can you fucking trolls just fuck off and let us ENJOY ONE DAMN THREAD

Today I learned that liquid soup is partitioned into fucking cylinders

>>11592812
anon this whole thread is a troll thread

>>11592902
*3d* cylinders. Get it right please.

>>11592417
>>11592357
>>11592205
Look, I know you're trying to help OP, but you're really not. You recommended Rudin? There's a finite set of soup cylinders in a bowl, real analysis is irrelevant for finding the cold spot. And the "stationary" assumption you make in your proof is fallacious. This has nothing to do with empiricism vs analytical proof, you have failed to model the soup bowl at all, and the "FOOLPROOF METHOD FOR LOCATING IT WITH HIGH TIME EFFICIENCY" is an infinite sequence that I can get to take arbitrarily long by demanding arbitrary accuracy. Yeah, I know you conveniently forgot to mention that, and it may have escaped other anons, but I noticed. Your brilliant mathematical method for finding the minima takes INFINITELY LONG.
Just admit it, OP's soup hack is pretty nifty.

Does this help

>>11592974
Hey, that's pretty good!

>stir soup
wa la

>This thread

It's all turbulent flow due to convection currents on this scale, and once you disturb it with your spoon you've artificially changed the flow patterns even more. If you stir the soup in a strictly circular motion you may create some actual predictable flow and convection patterns but they will not last depending on the viscosity of the soup. Reynolds numbers will be very high in any case, since the soup bowl is small, the flow velocities are low and the fluid is relatively viscous and impure.

>>11590440
>>11591074
>>11591005
>>11590779
OP, you're based and techpilled, don't let anyone tell you otherwise

I don't think you guys get how amazing the soup cylinder idea is.
OP fucking discovered integral calculus by himself.

>>11590779
>soup cylinders
My sides hurt so much

Hey someone should try using a thermal imaging camera. I have one, of this thread is still up tomorrow I will have soup for lunch and post results.

>burn units HATE him
>learn this one wierd trick

this thread is like a fever dream but in a good way

>>11593799
Excuse me, can you elaborate on what you meant by this post?

>>11592971
The middle one isn't me. But god fucking dammit, you're right. At least my work will be relevant when OP generalizes to infinitessimal soup cylinders. Though you're wrong, I never ask anyone to do test out soup points in the whole sequence. One can find a subsequential convergent in finite time if one has the space ready to analyze (which it is thanks to the PDE sim). We're limited only by measurement approximation.
In a theoretical platonic universe in which the soup is a stationary continuum of soup cylinders following the classical heat equation to a tee, and in which we can pick out the limit of a sequence simply by knowing it exists and is unique, I have solved the problem.
If, in this platonic universe, you are so inclined to add fluid dynamics, be my guest. I lack the thermodynamic background to model heated fluid movement. This would be an excellent discovery to add to the many wonderful findings of this thread.

>>11593808
Is... is this a huhpost?

>>11593808
it's like I'm hallucinating weird shit

>>11590440
>not using polar coordinates

are you a brainlet anon?

>>11592974
>>11593051
I think this method is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oAjcLD34kc&feature=youtu.be&t=6

Does this only apply to soups without pieces of food in them or all soups?

What about stews?

>>11594218
>What about stews?
Spots the Calvinist.

>>11590879
This is still 4chan, sweaty. Doesn't matter what Hiro renamed it to.

>>11594527
>ending a sentence with a preposition
huh?

>>11594527
>sweaty
>Not sweetie
There is still hope for this place

This thread is what I live for.

Lol so random and quirky, let's all pretend to be retarded together

>>11590536
Brainlet question

>>11594779
You don't have to pretend

>>11590779
>soup cylinders

>>11594786
Retard answer

Okay, I said last night that I would eat soup today and hunt the cold spots. So I just ate a bowl of my mum's butternut squash soup and it does work to an extent. But you quickly eat up all the colder soup and are stuck with 2/3 a bowl of hot soup. I personally enjoy near-scalding food so I just kinda take a big spoonful right from the middle of the bowl.

>>11594883
So Randumb!!!! This is why I le love le 4channel

>>11594551
Do you speak Latin, you pedant? In English there's no rule against ending a sentence with a preposition. Get out of here with your prescriptivist bullshit.

>>11590440
I mix the bowl before I eat it

Wtf is everyone on about?I do this and everyone I know.Just a question where are you all from?I'm from eastern europoor country.

>>11594979
Maybe it's an Eastern thing.

>>11590440
I do this lol

>>11590468
Why don't you just use your infrared thermometer? That's what I do.

>>11595191
Far from it, dude.

>>11594942
...are you sure? i've spent my whole life trying to keep prepositions from ending sentences. was i being autistic? is it being "not a rule" something new?

>>11595395
How would you say that sentence?

>>11595424
I probably would just remove the "to"
Doesn't matter what hiro renamed it.

>>11595524
Renamed it what? You're missing a word there, champ.

>>11595395
>was i being autistic?
yes

>>11595572
Alright, doesn't matter to what hiro renamed it.
Or, probably better, what hiro renamed it to doesnt matter.

>>11590440
H U H?
U
H
?

Boasting in a epic tread.

How the hell is this bread still alive?

>>11595524
That sentence is grammatically incomplete.

I don't see any columns, just that it's cooler around the periphery where the bowl has absorbed some heat.
Maybe if it were heated in a microwave it would have OPs columns.

>>11595395
The taboo against ending a sentence with a preposition is an antiquated "rule" that does not reflect how English is spoken, or has been spoken for centuries. It comes from Latin, where it makes sense, but certain grammarians have been trying to get people to follow it in English for no good reason. It would be like screeching when someone uses a space between words because in ancient manuscripts, they didn't use spaces.

Actually, is pretty similar to the autists who yell "reddit spacing", as if it's impossible for two new lines to be helpful in formatting a 4chan post.

Omg do a screencap compilation of this pls its pure genious

>>11593613
Bumping for this

All right, I run a little simulation. Convection works as expected, but since I took water as a flui I guess that due to different viscosity an actual soup would behave similarly but with lower velocities. I didn't expect this particular stratification of temperatures, but there you have it. This is what happens when you pour soup in a bowl and let it sit for four minutes.

>>11590779

hhhhhhhahahahaha

I kind of think that what OP is trying to talk about is reasonable enough,
("When soup is poured into a cold bowl while hot, it cools in a difficult to predict way, do people try and find the coolest spot like I do so that I can eat the most soup at the best temperature?")

It's just the way the OP was set up made him seem like some kind of deranged soup-prospector, and the follow up diagrams don't really help.

>>11596534
You cant missunderstand the soup cylinders man. Theyre simple 3D zylinders with cool soup that go to the bottom of the bowl. You get yer compas ready start north and find the cool spot anon its not that hard is it now

>>11596349
What software is this?

>>11596627
Solidworks, a 3D CAD program. It has simulation modules, which to be fair are kinda shitty (they're not Ansys or Nastran, to name a few), but they're easy enough to use on the fly and most importantly they are integrated with the 3D modeling system itself.

>>11596677
Ah. I've used quite a lot of SW but never needed that module. Probably why it looked so familiar.

>>11596626
>>11596534

Op fails to grasp complex fluid dynamics, as well as z axis. Polar coordinates is also superior form of dividing the soup.

THERMOGRAPHIC SOUP ANALYSIS THREAD.
Which method is most reliable in detecting soup temperature distribution?

>>11596349
based solidworksanon

>>11590553
holy shit whos your dealer
i want whatever youre microdosing

>>11590456
>My wife likes to talk after sex
>So the other night, she called me from a hotel room

I get no respect

>>11596996
I like this cat picture a lot.

>>11596327
see
>>11596106

>>11597027
Save it, it's all yours my friend =)

>>11597259
Needs a version with the last image in >>11592267

>>11597259
I'M FUCKING DEAD

>>11597314
Oh hell yeah. Thanks buddy.

>>11590596
This

>>11596794
*thermodynamics

>>11597259
perfect

>>11597259
Ten out of fucking ten

>>11596349
I guess that settles it

>>11597511
Came back to post this just for you.

>>11597259
>>11597788
I can't breathe. Thank you for these, anon.

>>11590553
>the planet has colder spots even though under the surface, it's liquidy like soup
Words to remember

>>11592902
what's non-liquid soup?

this is a serious reddit thread, newfags

>>11597879
It's when you freeze it and use complicated methods trying to get it to melt so you don't freeze your tongue.

>>11597788
kek

>>11597884
fuck off, fun police

>>11597892
>frozen soup
Ok guys listen up. I think I've cracked the case for optimal soup cylinder spotting. You first freeze your soup. Then drill out a cylinder with pic related. Heat the rest of the soup somewhat but not fully. Then insert the drilled out part back IN and heat the soup to optimal temperature! and you KNOW where the cylinder is! This way you don't have to search for it.

>>11597951
but how do you eat the soup with a spoon as the rest of it cools?!???

>>11597970
No no no. You heat the soup wholly but the drilled out part while warmed up is still cooler than the rest of the soup. You don't just dump the frozen cylinder in and call it a day. You still need to heat it some more.

>>11597951
Foolproof.

>>11597884
Well you would know, reddit.

This thread is so retarded I'm not even going to post what i was going to anymore. Good job OP

When the soup is in the can, and it's hot, isn't it just one soup cylinder?

>>11598159
Yeah but what if you are eating out the soup can sideways? Then are there multiple side cylinders too??
we need OP to get on this

>>11595395
If you literally look up the definition of preposition, one of the examples has one at the end of a sentence

Op, what happens if you stir the soup AFTER finding the cold cylinder?

>>11598182
Then the cylinder is lost forever. Like teardrops in the soup.

>>11598222
checked

OP is making 4channel.org/ck/ look dumb.

>>11598222
>he speaks the trips of truth

>>11598169
>Eating out of a soup can sideways
Keep this thread alive so I can do this. I need a couple of days to prepare.

>>11596229
Umm sweaty, the whole premise of the reddit spacing meme is that redditors have a weird tendency towards over-spacing, often going as far as putting each sentence on a new line. I think you'll find that if you separate your long posts out into reasonable paragraphs instead of reddit spacing, people will stop bullying you.

>>11596349
Absolutely based

>>11590440

>>11590756

>>11590779

The absolute state of /ck/

>>11598222
>Like teardrops in the soup.

Mixing the soup before eating it is small brain. The soup isn't paying you to do work on it. Eating from cold cylinder first subverts the soup agenda.

>Le dumb statement
>le reaction image reply
XD

>>11599817
Literally 4chan throughout the years since its inception.

Things that are impossible to discuss on /ck/, updated edition:
>soy
>hot sauce
>energy drinks
>mcdonalds
>air fryers
>pepperoni
>new addition: soup
Anything else?

I tried it and it actually works.

>>11599810
Mixing makes it lukewarm

>>11598182
Don't do this, it makes mustard gas

>ITT- The Cult of the Soup Cylinders.

>>11597259
>giant bowl of soup in his lap
Caught me off guard

>tfw the thread will be archived when you get home from work
Goodnight, Sweet Bread.....

ni[B][B]a just immerse the soup bowl in a bigger bowl with cool water in it. Heat sink that mofo
My secret is revealed

>>11600811
bumping for your dubs, anon have fun at work

>>11599977
Based digits of truth.

Alright, guys. I decided to try this out. How do I find the fuckin cylinders, OP? Redpill me, pham.

>>11601401
>20 minutes ago
It cold now
RIP soup cylinders
You will be missed

>>11601401
This is a real problem. I couldn't replicate OPs cylinder spot technique either.
Do we have any co/ck/s here who could engineer a simple machine that would create a cold cylinder in the soup? Maybe some kind of coil that you could dip in the bowl and you would just know where the cylinder is?