/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11554669
>deconstructed
Irks me the most. It's being lazy as an excuse to charge more for a dish.

>>11554669
>our famous fries
>at a place you've never heard of
What did they mean by this?

What is the soup du jour?

>>11554694
soup of the day? It's french. we couild probably look it up and find out pretty quickly

>>11554694
>du juor = french for "day tour"

It's a pretentious way for saying "our currently touring debutante" or "the whore we've got for the day or every other day every week"

>>11554669
That's a pretty bullshit list. Where the fuck are you? Ohio?

>>11554699
>>11554703
Mmm. That sounds good. I'll have that.

>>11554669
Frog here
Everytime i see soupe du jour or a la carte bs i want to burn the whole restaurant.

>>11554676
Base and pills

>>11554669
Not strictly applicable, but it upsets me that at places like Starbucks, every normal/rudimentary food ingredient NEEDS to have some bullshit descriptor

It's not bacon, it's "double smoked" bacon
It's not bread, it's "artisan bread"
It's not eggs, it's "cage free" eggs

Fuck off, seriously

>>11554747
But the libtards lap this shit up.
It’s not going anywhere ever unfortunately.

>>11554747
This.
>Farm fresh milk
>Imported fair-trade coffee/cocoa/cacao
>Sustainable sourced fish
>Himalayan pink salt

>>11554669
>and served with X’s famous fries!
>literally just normal fucking fries.

Why do this? Whenever these chain restaurants try to make things seem signature, it just emphasizes the soullessness of the restaurant. I’d prefer they just improve their dishes instead of creating a brand

>>11554669
None of those are words. They are all phrases. Pathetic. You are totally illiterate from my perspective.

>>11554798
>illiterate
noun
1.
a person who is unable to read or write.

Good work.

>>11554669
Kale and quinoa

>>11554669
>pic
bread with holes big like that annoys me.

>>11554707
(You)

>>11554669
ORGANIC
HALAL
VEGAN FRIENDLY
or the one I eat a lot of
INSTITUTION USE ONLY

>>11554669
>famous fudge
>easy cheesy baked potatoes

>>11554669
>turkey
>heh

Whats the issue with fish of the day?
I live in a coastal town, and the small restaurant i often go to, usually has this since they just buy whatever fish the fishermen caught in the morning and use it. Its always fresh fish that was still swimming few hours ago and not some shit that they delivered from abroad and has been frozen for weeks

>>11555539
There's nothing wrong with any of those descriptors except perhaps "deconstructed." OP is just frustrated he doesn't have enough money to visit a restaurant other than mcdicks.

>>11554669
>rustic

>>11554669
I tought this was a meal plan and was exited

Deconstructed is the the answer to the fact that you cant innove that much in cooking anymore.

>>11554669
>homemade

>>11554747
You are retarded. These are all different and better products.

Why are you bitching that normie restaurants are trying to serve better food?

>famous / award winning wings
>famous / award winning ribs.
The amount of places I've seen that shit on a menu...

>>11554771
>himalayan pink salt

Take that back. Right now.

All those words have a specific meaning and are useful to describe products and dishes

>>11556652
It's literally just salt that is pink due to some impurities. It's no different culinarily from regular white salt, you literally pay more for it because it looks pretty.

>>11554669
>Locally sourced

>>11554675
"deconstructed" makes it sound like it was constructed and they took it apart.would it be as popular if they called it by a more accurate name? "unconstructed"? probably not.

>>11554669
>artisan *anything*
especially if its at like, a fast food resto or something where they absolutely definitely are not hiring artisan master craftsman to handcraft each product. fuck off mcdonalds you lying bastards

there are people who work hard their whole lives for the privilege to call their product artisan and that term has just been fucking ruined for them.

>>11556686
Let's say you go and buy a "deconstructed" hamburger. You're paying more so the restaurant can hand you a plate with half a bun, a patty, and one leaf of lettuce with a tiny smear of ketchup on one end. Wa fucking la.

And despite all this these "people" eat it up. I don't get it.

>>11554747
Hey I have herseys chocolate, should I just call it chocolate?

Not too sharp there bud.

>>11556708
well the idea is that you can adjust the quantities and combos as you eat. it should keep the meal more interesting and interactive.

but I agree, its kind of a rip-off, especially since most eateries really exploit of the cost savings opportunity and you end up paying more for less material and less work. Ideally with a deconstructed meal you should get more variety and options in place of reduced quantity of individual components.

One nice thing is that almost categorically you can expect ingredient quality to be higher with a deconstructed meal. they cannot rely on masking sub-par ingredients with each other since it is expected that the customer will be trying the components on their own.

>>11554669
>Umami
>Foodie
>Mouthfeel
>Fast Casual
>Artisanal
>Notes of [Flavor]
>Buddha Bowl
>Choice of Protein (Just say meat you pretentious asshat)

>Gluten free
>It's not even made with fucking wheat

>>11556790
foodie is the worst

>>11555405
I sincerely hope someone made a good screencap of that thread

>>11556790
What the actual fuck is a Buddha Bowl? Image search just shows mishmash salad/wok shit in a bowl.

>>11556790
>protein

im about to snap

>>11556790
>Choice of Protein (Just say meat you pretentious asshat)

What if they have tofu on the menu? WHAT THEN FUCKER?

>Vegan Beef
>Our local Californian Carolinan Cowboy King Racho Rodeo Smokin' Hog Tyin' Country City Burger With Cheese
>Supreme
>Queso
>Mongolian

>Just like mom used to make

>>11556686
Should be called unassembled

I fucking hate the du jour shit. We serve "pasta of the day" which actually is fresh made pasta, but in two types, two different sauces and 4 toppings. "I'll have the pasta of the day" aight cunt, spaghetti or fusilli? Pesto or pomodori? Any spinach of mushrooms?
Also, our fish of the day is always the one that's closest to turning.

>>11558212
>our fish of the day is always the one that's closest to turning
that's every restaurant's "of the day" items.

There's a reason most soup du jour has a stock base, it's all the meat that was going to sour the day before.

>>11557991
>like mom used to make
>mom is dead
makes me cry every time

>>11556704
Maybe they should get the word protected by law like some professional positions do.

Fuck artisan branding. Seriously.

>>11556798
Go to the grocery store and see random ass products like steaks and heads of romaine lettuce
>GLUTEN FREE!
The retard fads have finally found the rural midwest.

>>11554669
>umami

it's just salt dumbass

>LAVA SALT

>>11554669
>fish of the day
Legitimate if a store buys fish every single day
>a la carte
Things that are extra to a dish are considered a la carte
>farm to table
This is good if a restaurant is buying ingredients from local providers

Otherwise good list

>"fish" of the day and not CATCH of the day
Fish of the day is just whatever fish they're featuring, and it's usually the fish that's going to fucking expire so they can cut their losses. CATCH of the day means it was fucking caught that day (or rather it does if the restaurant has any credibility whatsoever and isn't just using it as a catchy line, it should be obvious i.e. is there a fish market in your town?) so it's actually fresh.

>>11558889
>people with ciliac disease
>fad

>>11559005
>farm to table
I agree, it's just the restaurants that claim it even if it's obvious bullshit, ie. McDonald's.
>>11559014
Catch of the day is fine.

Managers special makes me cringe, as it's usually a shitty unpopular dish and they want to move an expiring product.
Maybe there's room for
>managers special fish of the day.
That would get some autists seething.
Also, this thread needs more "hubby" posting.
>Hubby's meal was so big he could barely finish!

>>11559057
Most people who eat gluten free do not have celiac's, which only affects about 1% of the population in the US. They're mostly just trend following retards who think it's the hip healthy thing to avoid gluten.

>>11559059
>manager's special fish soup du jour

>>11554669
I sometimes find the fish of the day to be quite nice but places around here usually have fresh fish and do change the fish of the day daily, places that do this are good. Though some places cheap out or are shit and they usually have bad food around any way

>>11556790
>>11556813
>>11557743
>>11558919
Are you legit upset about shit from a decade ago?

>>11559238
Dude, these are flyovers, they've just heard these terms in the last week or so and suddenly feel inferior.

>>11554703
I love French, just recently learned that the word "fiancee" comes from the French term "financier." Makes sense!

>>11554669
>gourmet
>hand made

>>11557752
>What if they have tofu on the menu?
Then you get up and leave. That's the point, retard.

>>11559238
Everything later than the 90s feels recent to me. You'll probably get that way too when you're older.

>>11556666
The impurity is rust, but Himalayan rusty salt doesn't sound as good.

>>11559784
But lots of chink restaurants offer tofu as a protein choice.

>>11559789
I get Chinese food delivered when I'm at work reasonably often and I've never seen the menus for the ones by me use the phrase "choice of protein." It's usually just beef, chicken, or shrimp, and if there's a tofu dish that gets its own entry somewhere else on the menu. In any event there's no reason to say "choice of protein" when what you mean is "your choice of meat with some shitty vegetarian alternative also available."

>>11559762
the fuck you're talking about fiancee come from the french fiancée since it's the same word with the same meaning

>>11558889
i'm like 99% sure that when it comes to produce being gluten free, it has to do with the pesticides used on them and shit, some of which apparently contain gluten, hence, gluten free produce being a thing. and with meat, a lot of time wheat is used as a filler. use google you dumb shit.

also
>retard fad
i mean, it is a retarded fad, but also, some people have celiacs and shit.

>>11558889
my friend with celiacs loves it. He described it as the first time he's had pancakes in 10 years.

>>11559877
But pancakes are shit.

>>11559867
>use google you dumb shit.
How can you google something you just pulled out of your ass?

>i'm like 99% sure-
You made it up. Don't lie to me.

>>11559881
>the shit
fixd

Old World Style
WTF is that supposed to mean?

>>11556790
>mouthfeel
I'm still mad however many years later with how utterly redundant and pretentious that word is.

>>11556752
its hershey's, not chocolate
>mic drops

>>11559800
shrimp isn't meat

>>11560205
I don't understand why that word took the place of the word "texture", which describes the same thing and also doesn't make you sound like a five year old.

>>11554669

>>11560513
This was actually a pretty good burger from what I remember. It was the only decent thing on the menu along with the chicken tenders

>>11559867
people are refusing to buy meat that's been fed gluten?

>>11554675
Deconstructed is supposed to mean you took the same ingredients and broke them down to use them differently in a traditional dish than you typically would like curing egg yolks and shaving them over the pasta dish instead of making a traditional carbonara the egg is in the dish with everything else you would expect but in a new and modern way. It gets misused alot desu

>>11555632
>There's nothing wrong with any of those

Eh.

"Artisan bread" - makes me suspicious of everything else. Why call that one out in particular?

"Our famous fries" - get fucked. Either they ARE famous, in which case I already know about your fries and you don't have to waste my time calling them famous, or I *don't* already know about your fries and you seem pathetic as fuck for calling them "famous."

"In-house BBQ sauce" - see Artisan Bread.

"Fish of the Day" - often completely fine, but occasionally you find somebody selling the same fish-of-the-day every day and at that point, just add it to the menu you freaks.

"Manager's special" - so I can expect if I order something else, it's worse?

"a la carte" - that one's fine (or at least, I haven't seen it misused)

"Soup du Jour" - see Fish of the Day

"Deconstructed" - that one's fine.

"From the Larder" - directly a buzzword. Might as well serve your vegetables "From Sysco," it fucking will has to come from somewhere.

"Farm to Table" - This one either means "was originally from a farm," in which case it gives me zero fucking information, or it means "we bypassed traditional logistics and acquired this from a farm instead of a middle man, which means we enjoyed none of the advantages of scale and polluted significantly more than if we got this from a soulless farming corporation, in direct contradiction to the green image we're trying to project," which sets my blood to boiling.

>>11554771
Those all mean something other than your garden variety version of the ingredients though

>>11559005
>This is good if a restaurant is buying ingredients from local providers

Get your fake green movement off my food board and, preferable, away from all humanity.

>>11557482
That is a buddah bowl

>>11554747
the starbucks sous vide egg bites piss me off, they are just reheated to rubber in store anyways

>>11554747
But double smoked bacon is different to regular bacon. The taste is not the same. I prefer unsmoked bacon. "Cage free" eggs also refers to the fact that they're not buying them from battery farms which is a concern for some people. The artisan bread thing is fucking redundant though.

>>11555757
THATS RIGHT. WORTH THE 5000% ADDED COST. BETTER INGREDIENTS. SUSTAINABLE, WITH ECO FRIENDLY FOOT-PRINT, AND GREEN.
OPEN UP FOR YOUR GREATEST ALLIE.

>>11560682
>I like to eat shit because sustainable living is a conspiracy

>>11554703
>>11559762
being actually fluent in french makes visiting /ck/ difficult sometimes

>>11560513
probably not even bad desu they'd just mcchicken it so there's a clump of lettuce and barely any sauce, im sure

>>11560338
But it is meaty

>>11554669
>100% arabica coffee
Grrr....

>>11559867
Celiac here.
Get fucked retard.
Pesticides don't contain gluten. "Gluten free" tags at stores are used to push product onto idiots who don't know better. I had to inform a fellow customer the other day that canned tomatoes are gluten free and she didn't believe me. Bitch, I have celiac disease and bloat up like a CattyN fanart if I even get cross contaminated. I know what's GF and not.
Next time you're in a grocery store take a look at what has "gluten free" tags and what doesn't that is obviously gluten free.

The only things people should worry about that aren't labeled are chocolate bars and prepackaged nuts (cacao beans and nuts usually get processed on equipment coated with wheat to keep them from sticking - eg most Planters products and most American chocolate).

>>11560524
I think that anon meant fillers like in sausage and hot dogs. Of course, only cheap meat for poorfags has grain as a filler, which is clearly labeled on the back of a product.