/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11419988
It definitely does. I am lucky enough to live a few miles from Founders and get to try some other variations. Good shit. A bit strong for my taste but I can appreciate good beer.

>>11419988
>Paying over $10 for beer
I know it's basically wine strength, but beer shouldn't be so expensive no matter what.

Authentic scottish tennents lager/beer brewed from scottish highkand barley corn.
Authentic english magners cider brewed from authentic west-country english apples.

>>11420055
>English magner
>label clearly states "Product of Ireland"
uh...

>>11419988
had pic related yesterday
well it doesn't lie it is indeed very peated, almost weirdly so for a beer. I liked it a lot

>>11419988
Downing my nightly case of Bud Lite.

>>11420040
Thats dumb, its really insane that even excellent beer is so incredibly cheap. CBS is literally better than any wine but costs a fraction of what the vast majority of quality wine does

>>11420040
$20 for a 4-pack seems ridiculous until you consider what you'd be paying for a pint of that same beer at the brewery's taphouse. And most of them are far cheaper than that.

>>11420040
High quality Beer is considerably cheaper than any high quality liquor or wine.

I think the best beer I’ve ever had was Moab Porcupine Pilsner and I’m not sure I’ll ever have a beer that tasty again

>>11420055
Isn't Tennent's like Olde English tier beer?

>>11420143
and also consider that higher ABV directly means more cost in making the beer

>>11419988
Currently sipping on a bourbon barrel aged imperial rye stout with vanilla. It's a collaboration between Listermann and Wolf's Ridge, called Wolfmann, naturally.

I got my CBS this morning. Have not tried it. also managed to snag two Bell's BBA Expedition stout. Can't wait to try that. I didn't even mention the Dragon's Milk gift set with the glasses.

>>11420149
also, at least with beer cost is generally pretty well correlated with quality unlike wine

>>11420180
ABV aside, the fuckloads of coffee, chocolate, cost of those bourbon barrels... you'd have to price the bottles high to even turn a profit.

>>11420186
that's true of wine too, it's just that the upper limit for wine is much, much, much higher and a single bottle is 750ml instead of 12/22 oz

>>11420195
I don't really agree the different between 25th percentile cost wines, and 75th percentile is almost nothing.
But with beer the difference is immense, no one would ever confuse $6 6 pack beer with a $12 four pack beer

>>11420195
depends where. in the Us it's often the case but in europe (or at least in france and belgium) big bottles are very often 75cl ones

>>11420195
>>11420225
Most US breweries use the 750mL bottles for special releases (like the CBS in the OP). The smaller bombers tend to be used for rotating or year-round releases (e.g.: Dragon's Milk)

>>11419988
It's a Leffe Brune kind of night. I'm probably going to sanitize all of my brewing shit and get a batch going tomorrow, maybe two - a pale/blonde and a porter or stout probably.

>>11419988
9:00 PM, cheap vodka time. My favorite time of the day!

Dranking one of these. Giantsbane from fair state just came out though so that's my next purchase

>>11419988
>tfw didn't buy CBS during the month or so it was widely available in Ontario at $8 CAD
That's like $6 bucks a bottle btw

>Heavily cutting back on beer (and drinking in general) because I'm trying to lose weight
>All I can think about is perusing my local beer warehouse store or cracking open my 2017 Bourbon County Stouts in the basement
It sucks.

>>11420507
Same here anon. I overdid it with beer and pizza this summer. Now have to crash diet.

>>11420507
>>11420515
Just start lifting and doing some cardio. That's how I keep somewhat in shape while having a couple a night

>>11420585
I actually lift a lot. I've started doing cardio daily now too. Trying to watch what I eat during the day as well.

My issue is that when I drink, I inevitably start to drink too much (very high alcohol tolerance) and also eat. So it's best if I just don't most nights.

>>11419988
Cbs was superior to kbs this year but i dont think the cbs was worth the 27$ i paid. This year the best stout i tried was beachwoods tovarish.

beer is for fagzzz, hard alcohol is tha way 2 go!!!!!! Absolut lee

Christmas is a comin’, the kids want more...

>>11420759
Ah that makes sense. I have a pretty low tolerance and after two beers I'm usually ready for bed so its pretty convenient

>>11420466
>it was widely available in Ontario at $8 CAD
Fucking how?

>>11419988
Stop drinking beer.

>>11421048
no

>>11419988
>tfw banished to the shadow realm

I've wanted and wished for this for almost a decade. Tonight, I finally tapped my first kegged homebrew.

>>11421162
Congratulations and cheers! What were you going for, and how'd it turn out?

>>11421188
This was a brown ale that I threw together with leftover malt and hops. Way too light but a good learning experience. I've brewed for a few years and half of the time I fuck up something and half of the bottles aren't much good. Hopefully the keg system will solve that!

>>11420761
>Cbs was superior to kbs this year
I almost wonder if Founders did this deliberately, considering how many people felt 2017 CBS fell short of the hype. Personally, I've seriously enjoyed all three iterations of the beer I've tried to this point.

>>11419988
No wonder you fags hate IPA so mucj, you're used to drinking straight up liquified sugar. Children. Looks good though and I live right next to Founders.

>>11420113
same except coors light

>>11421146
>12.2%
>looks like a Triple beer
How is this possible?

>>11421916
It tastes like what you'd imagine a $1.50 barely wine to taste like

>>11421919
meant to say barley lol but still stands

>>1142000
Eyyy what up G-Rap?

Thinking about calling it a day when it comes to drinking lads. My mom is an alcoholic and while I’m not the problem drinker I was months ago I think I’d be happier and have less regrets without alcohol in my life

>>11419988
Ba expedition exposes this stuff for the sham it is.

>>11421037
Not sure if Canada did, but non us markets has 12oz (355ml) formats.

>>11420040

It spent time in barrels. You've clearly never run a business.

>>11419988
Ba expedition exposes the adjunct sham for what it is. If you can find traeblud or the central waters maple stouts they will straighten your wig out but good.

>t. Michigan fag who trades the shit out of CBS.

Currently drinking meme for breakfast. It is pretty gud.

>>11422524
Central Waters is the best. Every barrel aged thing they do is excellent

>>11422531
Best may be a stretch but the barrel program is pretty good.

>>11422363
Good for you.

I know a friend of mine who became an asshole as drunk who basically did the same thing. Wanna distribute your collection to us without introducing shit like bitcoin and stuff?

>>11422552
Have you gotten to try Black Gold?

>>11422552
I'd definitely say the best. I havent found a brewery that consistently puts out great, or even just good, barrel aged beers. Somehow central waters has found the perfect medium where the barrel isnt too faint or overpowering for all their beer. I havent found another brewery who can consistently do that on the level they do

>>11422561
You need to try more barrel programs anon. I will concede that for the price point and volume of ba beer they produce it is a very high level program but finding better stuff I'm almost every category isnt very difficult. Big central water fan, not going to crown them king of ba when better brewers are out there.
>>11422557
Yep, very good.

>>11422567
I've gotten burned too many times desu. They're the only brewery that holds my confidence. Theres one local brewery that has a great and unique barrel program, but it's nowhere near the scale CW is.

>>11422574
The pitfalls of aging shit in a barrel lead to some pretty garbage product from alot of brewers. It's a very variable tradeoff flavor wise with a slew of vectors for infection. Add the popularity of ba stuff and the crazy prices that people where claiming for good product and alot of brewers rushed garbage beer into distribution chasing the dollar. Again, central waters has a good program and I'm a big fan.

>>11422596
Yeah me saying they're the best is just my opinion obviously. Like I said they're the only ones I trust anymore. Even founders has burned me, and if I'm going to spend that kind of money I want a guaranteed product. Prairie is good too though

Currently sippin a Blue Moon in the shower :^)

>>11421146
That's gotta be the most gaudy label for a tall boy of malt liquor, and buddy, I'm a connisuer. Where in what state? What does that taste like? Compared to 4Loko, Earthquake?

>>11419988
currently drinking some warm mulled wine and a zoller-hof

>>11423078
Nice mug

>>11423145
thanks

>>11422531
Cassian Sunset was so damn good this year

>>11423004
Got the cans in Vegas. Not made here but apparently the company that has them made is in Las Vegas
Better than an earthquake, little sweeter and lots of barley, but less hops so kinda plain. It's almost like a shitty barley wine, you can tell the alcohol is there but it's not considerably more apparent than a steel reserve. Very fizzy like soda and a little syrupy but not much aftertaste

Far less sugar than four loko but a girl probably wouldn't want this

>>11419988
How do you make your own beer/wine.
Which one is easier.

>>11419988
This shit is amazing. It tasted like an actual samoa cookie dipped in coffee.

Oh boy I sure do love these thinly veiled viral marketing threads, much better than those silly al/ck/ threads that were a part of board culture for half a decade and only stopped when ANBEV paid off a mod to ban the entire gen. Isn't this better? It is, it's really much better now that I have bots telling me which craft beer is the latest craze and I have shills giving detailed descriptions of beer that they're reading off of pre-prepared notes.

Great. Really, really great.

>>11423740

>>11423770
Why did you feel the need to reply with that gif? What's your problem?

top tier bitter coming in

The fanciest I get are Sam Adams Winter Lager and Octoberfest. I do sometimes get a variety pact which can include "coffee pale ale" and cocoa-flavored beer.

Sometimes I during Fall, I might get Festbier from Victory Brewing.

Otherwise, it's just Boston Lager, Coors regular (not Lite), or occasional European amber lager from a microbrewery.

>>11423760
Not everything is a conspiracy dude

>>11423770
>>11423832
Answer my question fucking faggot. Worthless piece of shit you deserve to have your balls chopped off and get raped.

>>11423622
Beer is miles easier, if only by virtue of not having to worry as much about yeast nutrition.

>>11423740
Their cherry cordial stout was better.

>>11423906
Ok any sites that can walk me through it.

>>11423906
Not if you're doing all grain because you have the mash and sparge. Even extract is more time consuming and complicated because you have to carbonate it.

>>11423934
For wine this is good
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/index.asp

Beer
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/

How do I 'harden' my stomach? I can't handle much alcohol and it sucks.

Does it get better when I build up my tolerance?

>>11424226
Sure or make sure you eat food so you don't feel sick

This because it's in season

>>11424226
Basically just drink more

>>11424288
That stuff, ruthless rye, and celebration ale are all dope seasonals

Wisconsin anon reporting in

>>11424614

Please ship me some raspberry tart for the love of god

>>11423892
Based schizo

From tap

>>11424614
Just opened up one of their new chocolate stout 4 packs

>>11424626
Borderlands here. How far away are you?

>>11424288

I smash on an entire 6 pack of that then feel like shit

>>11423740

Disgusting

>>11424507
I still cant find rutheless or bigfoot on east coast! Fugggg

Off the back of CBS, KBS tasted almost underwhelming. Poured an EMJ after finishing off my CBS bottle, and honestly... appreciated the roastiness of the Jesus even more. Stouts are fucking amazing.

>>11424649
Me too, loving it so far. Some reviews say it's overly sweet but I find it pretty balanced

>>11424702
Yeah, I like it, sweet, but no more than expected for a milk stout

>>11420161
That thing was shit

I had it at the shitty BJs type restaurant in the Salt Lake City airport and I was very disappointed

>>11424690

Fire up this bad boy.
Phenomenal

>>11424886
I've seen a few oyster stouts on shelves at my local bottle shop (Great Lakes anniversary ale especially) but have yet to try any. What do the oysters contribute? How does it mesh with the rest of the stout? I'm intrigued.

>>11424886
I wish more breweries did oyster stouts

>>11424796

I cooked for BJs for 2 years.
Horrid beer. Absolutely horrid.
Made by Gordon Bierch or Widemier or some shit.

I live in Santa Rosa, CA
Where Russian River brewery is
Right in between Bear Republic Brewery and Lagunitas.

I never had a chance to be sober.

>>11424895

I'm not sure about the others but Henhouse Oyster Stout is just the perfect stout to me. Smooth.

Weihenstephaner and Modelo interspersed with bourbon sips.

>>11424909
For me, it's Chico CA

>>11424895
Try it. You get a slightly deeper roasty character, some will also find the beer slightly salty. I havent cracked a gl ani yet but look forward to it.

>the gl is like $10 for a large format bottle

Also of note: if you like any stout/porter outside of pastry bombs you will probably dig it.

>>11423760
I suggest you go fuck yourself with a BadDragon brand dildo.

Go bitch about a sip or mc chicken thread.

>>11424895
If it's made properly you should get a briney taste to it. It's really damn good

>>11424895
If you are GR bro, witchs hat makes a killer oyster stout and has the same distributor as evil twin in se mi. If you can find sea kitty do it.

>or road trip to south Lyon. It's not a bad drive and I had some great beer their today.

>>11424971
Based. How tough is it to get king sue?

>>11425010
>>11425020
Well, it didnt take much to sell me on it. I'm gonna grab the GL oyster stout at some point this week. I adore stouts that lean towards the savory side of things.

>Also of note: if you like any stout/porter outside of pastry bombs you will probably dig it.
My current favorite stout is Evil Twin's EMJ, if that says anything about my garbage taste.
Dont get me wrong, dessert stouts have their place, but that's the kind of beer you just have to be in the mood for.

>>11425048
Sadly I dont live in GR. I'm smack in the middle of Asheville NC, which still puts me in a very good position for some fantastic beers on a whim.
>tfw fresh Burial beers on tap whenever I feel like

>>11425058
pretty tough, they make it only once every few months with no pattern that I am aware of and it usually sells out at retailers the day it arrives. I've only ever managed to get some at the store a couple times, but once I made the drive out to their brewery and got a growler of it. It is an excellent beer, actually worth the hype

>>11424687
>bigfoot on east coast!
shit, dude, I'm even seeing that shit at Harris Teeter at this point. Where even are you?

>>11425118
I have a good buddy who works in iowa and fishes in decorah a bunch. He drives home to MI quite a bit so I may ask him to stop.

>open a fresh bottle of neipa from a small local brewer.
>find a shit load of hop solids (I'm not taking a better picture, it's ground up cone for sure)

Whelp, it sure is fucking hoppy.

>>11419988
The bar i work at just got in Founders Dank Wood after we ran out of CBS.
Both of those are really fantastic

>>11425223
Dank Wood and Barrel Runner really just didnt sit right with me. I have yet to try a barrel aged IPA that I enjoyed. Dank Wood just felt like a worse version of Devil Dancer, and BR just smelled too strongly of paint thinner with weak hop flavor. To be honest, if they hadn't pulled a saving throw with CBS, I was gonna give the next Founders BA release a miss. What were they thinking with those two?

>>11425223
>>11425268
I meant Better Half, not CBS. CBH this year ticked all the right notes for me.

>>11425178
totally worth the stop if he is in the area, they make some of my favorite pale ales ever. Every single pale ale from them I try is impressive

>>11425275
Sir i think you might have had too much.
It's time to leave

>>11425279
You cant tell me what to do
You're not my real dad

>>11425268
Dankwood didnt do it for me. Red IPA is a meme ass oxymoron anyway. Doom from last year aged into some pretty great shit though and is a real ipa.

>>11425313
>>11425268
u gay

>>11424651

Too far <\3. Near trump and dc

>>11425318
Because founders pushes out gay shit to keep tha San miguel overlords happy on the backs of it's old barrel program cred? How is that lizard of koz working out for yah champ?

>>11425322
>tfw buddy got his bi yearly divery of cranbic, Belgian red , raspberry tart and enigma and hasnt popped any with me yet.

>>11425337
Buy some nice beers to share with him and stop freeloading, you fucking cretin

>>11424626
>tfw I can buy all their special releases and as much raspberry tart as I want within a 20 minute drive
I still prefer Minnesota beer.

>>11425341

>Nigga, you gay.

We trade shit all of the time and I'm carting ticked release shit 200 miles.

>>11425341
That's a big assumption. You can contribute to a friendship in other ways that makes it reasonable to expect a friend to share some beer

>>11425313
I completely forgot about Doom. I retract my previous statement, that beer was actually fantastic, which makes DW and BR even more tragic, in retrospect.

>>11424507
>>11424656
It's my new go-to beer for the rest of the year.

>>11425367
Fruit wood was a bit of a turd last year also. The beers they have trimmed make sense on the backs of declining sales versus cost and capacity for those lines but it is still sad to see. At least they still make centennial.

>>11421037
>>11422483
>12oz (355ml) formats
This was the case, yes. Just looked at OP's post again and noticed it's a larger bottle, I'm an idiot.

>>11425384
I would have loved to have CBS available in 4-packs. The 750mL bombers have a habit of being overpriced and inconvenient all around...

>>11425384
It's ok. 750's are what our brewers do with limited release shit to show us how much the fucking hate us. Especialy galling is when the strong arm the distributor into both bottle formats and it makes it all the way down the chain to the consumer.

"To get the one four pack for $25 you have to buy a 750 which costs $22. That's the bottle limit dawg."

>So if I buy the format I dont want of huge shit that I'm not really going to enjoy drinking a giant fucking bottle of for nearly twice the price you will give the privilege of giving you money for the beer I want?

> "yup"
>after I pay for it can you take this 750 and shove it up your fucking ass?

Hard pass.

>>11425010

I don't get salty in the least.

Got this stuff from Hofbrau..Really fucking good like im drinking actual german beer

>>11425445
Are you the one who said briny? If so look up what brine is.

>>11425403
For us they just came in individual 355mL bottles. Which is actually even more ideal since you can spend 8 CAD to try it, and not have three expensive beers left sitting around if you didn't feel they were worth the money.
>>11425415
That sucks man. I do envy the selection you have in the States though; our beer/spirits laws severely limits what's available to what the government owned company feels it should stock. Also means that sometimes you'll find a great beer that is flat-out unavailable for years at a time because the company decided none of their stores should stock it: happened to me with Tank 7 (back now), La Chouffre, Founders Breakfast Stout seems to be gone again now, etc. Allegedly we had Dogfish Head beers at one point but I have no evidence of that and am sadder for it.

>>11425489
Yeah Michigan and alot of states have wonky rules governing what's availible etc that have all kinds of shitty effects on the market.

All the lagers I've ever had have been the most disgusting beers of my life.

Why is it so popular

>>11425541
Craft or mainstream? What types of beer do you prefer? Bottom fermenters make alot of style and you may be suprised.

>>11425554
>>11425658
Here's the thing though, if I ever actually want something crisp I head straight for a cider, cause that's guaranteed not to taste like ass somehow.

For beers it's either good Hefeweizen styles or some dark ale, I'm still exploring that rabbithole. Yeasty == Malty > Fruity Hops >>>>> Clinical Hops

>>11425541
I'm with you, I am trying to find a nice and crisp lager but they all taste pretty off.

>>11425541
>>11425658
Try a fresh pils or schwarzbier if your into dark stuff

>>11425197
That's gross, people seem to think that NEIPAs are supposed to look like the dregs of a fermenter.

>>11425796
>good Hefeweizen

Maybe I'll buy it next time I do my beer run

Drinking some Sierra Nevada coffee stout from their snow pack. Bretty good

>>11425841
I don't think that at all. Tbh I was shocked to find it. Stumbles in production are no fun but I'd be pretty disappointed if I brewed this shit.

>>11425470

No..
Dude from Santa Rosa here.
I work at Bear Republic Brewpub.
Bug fan of Henhouse.
That Oyster stout is just smooth as all fuck.

>>11425850
Ill advised if it ain't summer where you are. Good Hefes are fresh and local, the only mass produced one I've found that seems to somewhat travel okay is Weihenstephaner

just bought this cheap shit, is it any good?

>>11425841
>people seem to think that NEIPAs are supposed to look like the dregs of a fermenter.
um, they are

>>11426411
Faxe isn't so much "good" as it is "effective".
I had no idea we were exporting that piss.

>>11420179
Finnfag here who has had both the weak and strong version as imports. Yes, it is.

>>11426924
Turbidity is ok for the style but its alot higher outside of New england. The beers I've had from trillium/lawson/alchemist/nebco/etc tend to have alot less sediment than stuff from other regions. Remember the idea is "hazy" not orange juice. Hop solids in final packaged product is a fuck up.

>>11427247
>Remember the idea is "hazy" not orange juice
um

>>11427281
Yeah, you dont see the difference to this?

>>11427401
In my experience I have never had a NEIPA that was too turbid, in general the mediocre ones I have had have all erred on the side of not enough turbidity, generally the best ones are quite turbid

>>11425896
Yeah the sea kitty has less of the "oyster flavor" than something like bad mother shucker from arbita. I honestly chalk it up to better oysters being used by the smaller brewers. If you have the arbita, you'll taste it more in the better brews.

Why is everyone in this thread using a glass?
Just drink it straight from the bottle.

>>11427510
Because some beers honestly benefit from being able to smell the thing as you taste it. Smell is deeply tied to the sense of taste and some of the aromas are more easily detectable with scent.

Also: you are a retard

>>11427610
Nice reddit spacing pal.

Love it. Definitely not a session beer.

>>11427510
you should never drink straight from a bottle when a glass is available, gotta get your nose in there for the full experience

>>11427633
>knowin how things are spaced or something on reddit
You can leave

>>11427633
Found the retard.

The only thing more neckbeard than an IPA is a limited edition sugar stout.

>>11428058
>stop liking good things

Very nice ipa!

>>11423078
Glögg säsong redan?

>>11428167
Euro bro! I was shocked to see boss tweed on the mikkeller web shop. Glad you enjoy it. They are doing great things at old nation and looking forwards to the ddh 43.

>>11428372
You think we will get it here as well?

Sipping on this one now, very funky!

>>11428372
>picture got eaten

Is it worth the hype?

>>11428452
Yes. Beautiful year round imperial stout. Storm king is also good and year round I believe

>>11428394

>>11419988
Oh nice. Had Firestone Walker's Agrestic last night.

Holy.
Shit.

>>11428481
Meant the DDH M43!

>>11428493
300 case release =/ picking up 3 cases weds

>>11428503
You are American right? 300 Cases total makes it very unlikely to get further out than the state of Michigan.

>>11419988
Pretty great beer.

Fremont's barrel aged beers are even better. Dunno what they're doing right to make such decadent, tasty bba stouts, winter warmers, and barleywines instead of gross bourbon bombs (see: many offerings from the bruery), but I hope they keep doing it for a long time.

>>11419988
Overall I would say that KBS and CBS don't really taste too much differently to me cold....when you let the bottle get closer to room temperature and then have at it, though, CBS tastes all the more delicious and unique. However, I think it is pretty stupid when people spend 100s on just a beer.

>>11428513
I'm 10 miles from the brewery. It wont be found outside of the line at the brewery on Wednesday. They are expanding production on some of the pilot stuff but it will be a while before it gets any where. 2 years ago boss tweed was the same kind of production so maybe some day.

Sorry for the confusion. Kind of geeked it's in Europe at all.

>>11428552
We got some earlier this year as well. I think some strings must have been pulled to make it happen for sure.
It does spread the name of the brewery beyond the state of michigan for sure.

>>11428571
The variant m43's have all been crazy good. Small brewery that is growing steadily so hopefully more gets to your side of the pond.

>>11428606
Hopefully!

>>11428606
Its really crazy that its available in Europe at all when most states can't even get it

>>11426411
french here, this was sold in 1L cans here, but I haven't seen one in years, dunno if it's even still sold
memories of me and the guys always drinking this at SSBM session we had once or twice a week when in high school. its only use is to get drunk for cheap

>>11428636
We do pay for it thought at about 10 buck an can. Insane prices for beer!

All good, but the Sea Dog is truly outstanding.

This could be rough

>>11428780
Is holiday cheer decent again? They went from subtle peachiness to shitty tartness to awfully over sweet and artificial

It's not a beer but I had some homebrew mead. Not as sweet as I'd hoped but hopefully the next batch will be.

>>11429367
How long did that take to make? How long have you been doing it?
I've been really interested in taking up brewing mead

>>11429392
Well, that was my first batch and I left it for around 9 months which was probably too long. This second batch I'm only going to leave until it clears before bottling which will probably be 3 months in.

What is the best hop and why is it Citra?

>>11429443
1. Citra
2. Mosaic
3. Nelson Sauvin
4. Centennial
5. Azacca
6. Galaxy
7. Simcoe

really too many options for me to continue this list and I am probably forgetting some great ones

>>11429472
That's a pretty based list anon, A+

>>11428746
It is excellent beer though. If it makes you feel better all of the excellent shit from your shores is expensive as all hell here (or they contract brew it in Dorchester and its just kind of expensive). As another poster mentioned it doesnt see national US distribution and has chronic shortages in Michigan so it's cool to made it that far.

>>11429472
>no Goldings
>none of the noble hops

hipstery

>>11430640
This.

>in the distance... the soyboy ipa poster hears his call.

>>11429443
Sorachi BAceD

>>11429443
>>11429472
>>11429499
>DUDE HIGH ALPHA LMAO

I'm happy to have this one in stock again

Friendly local store has both in stock. What do? 39$ for the wine aged seems nuts but I'm curious and reviews seem to love it.

>>11429443
I'm a sucker for el dorado

>>11432491
39$ is retarded, however, the best versions of big stouts are aged in wine barrels imo. The flavors naturally go together much better than bourbon barrels.

>>11422531
>>11428534

>>11432538
So it stands to reason using some of the best wine barrels in the world would be a good choice then, right?

>>11428402
>Today we mourn the loss of my glassware and the pouring of this fine beer into a big ass wine glass because I opened it and then realized my tulips were cracked.

>>11433012

>>11432809
I dont think you're going to see a lot of difference between that level of wine and say something like apothic, simply because the beer will take over most of the flavor and the subtleties people look for in higher end wines wouldnt travel well

>>11428452
good but oskar blues ten fidy, gigantic most premium, and bells expedition stout have it beat

>>11428452
there was also that one by de molen that was called rasputin until they got a cease and desist from north coast. That's better too.

>>11430652
>>11430640
old school hops are not as good as modern hops. Even old school American hops popular 15 years ago are blown away by the modern popular strains. Its a marvel of the science of plant breeding

>>11420007
Fellow GR Anon! I live 3 blocks from founders myself.

>>11428452
Entry level. The mouth feel is much thinner and the carbonation is too mich for a stout. Still if you like old rasputin, you will like other stouts.

>>11433911
Old school English hops are the only ones I care about or notice.

first time having it, apparently the recipe changes a bit every season

>>11419988
Sounds a lot like pic related, the best beer I've ever had. Would I be able to find this at somewhere like Total Wine and More? I don't live in the US so I'm not that familiar with the breweries there but I do spend a bit of time there and would like to track it down.

>>11435334

>>11435335
CBS gets euro distribution. It's even in a better bottle format. You would have to check with some euro anons but San miguel has a 30% ownership stake so I'm sure they handle distro. If you are in the us total wine does carry it but its normaly a bourbon county tier shit show.

>>11419988
Only the best, son.

>>11423838
Seen that on Two Fat Ladies - they did a tour of the brewery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMBWCRbejnE

>>11435334
That's what I buy the anchor christmas ale for. Shits delicious every year. Stone had a great christmas release one year that tasted like a christmas pudding or some shit. It was like, 08 or 09 vertical I cant remember

>>11436617
The vertical epic series isnt a Christmas ale.

>>11436617
>>11436656
To expand on this: the vertical epic was 12 beers made once a year on the month and day that corresponded to the series. For example 08 was bottled on the 8th day of August in 2008. They were all Belgian strong ales that were intended to be cellard and all opened at once in 2012 with a wide variety of adjuncts. 12.12.12 had pretty traditional Christmas ale ingredients. Go figure. https://www.stonebrewing.com/beer/stone-vertical-epic-ales#ageGatePassed

09 was a chocolate orange inspired dark strong and 08 was a hoppy golden strong

>>11436547
Damn, I miss those old bittys. They had that dry british humor and made proper good bong food, they did.

>>11435286
um, why?

>>11436739
It must have been the 12 then. That and some hennepin from ommegang are the two beers that got me hooked on the craft stuff. Didnt know beer could be that good. I was 22? Something like that

>>11438196
They rereleased 2 of the verticals, 02 and 08 so who knows you may see them again.

Just got back from my first shift at the local taproom. Pretty exhausting job but awesome for trying tons of beer

drinking this at the moment
i don't normally drink oktoberfest beers but this year i've had all of them i can get my hands on

excellent !

Bought a 4 pack of pic related for the weekend. Missed out on the last release of it and heard good things so I'm stoked to try it out

>>11438142
Prefer floral and mildly sweet aromas and flavors to citrusy, piney, and crazy fruity ones

How long do you need to let Trappist/Abbey style beers age to get a noticeable aging effect? That is, assuming them aging is a real thing and not a meme.
I've got some I've had sitting in a drawer since I bought them early October and I'm wondering if it's worth leaving them until Christmas, or if you only get the effect of aging if you've left them long enough for future archaelogists to marvel at.

What about this beer guys? I think it tastes pretty good. Also, does anyone drink Guinness here?

>out of beer
>mfw sippin palm bays because i have like 100 hundred of them in my fridge left from my wedding

>>11441253
congratulations

>>11441190
Good pils. Guinness draft blows ass. Extra stout is solid

ON reporting in
never had a genuine trapiste enkel before, but this one is pretty good. i also had the soursop berliner from CA a while back and fucking loved it.

>>11440319
good lad

ive got some chilling in the aging cabinet

>>11441301
Why don't you like Guinness Draft? It tastes amazing. How does the extra stout taste?

Anyone ever tried Duchesse de Bourgogne?

>>11441570
It doesnt taste like anything and there are plenty of better stout options on and off nitrogen.
Extra stout is a little unique tasting to me for a stout. I haven't had it in a while but I remember it having more fruitiness to it than I expected. Other than that it has a good body and hits all the other checkmarks of a quality stout

>>11441591

yeah it tastes like balsamic vinaigrette

So, ddh is kinda dumb.

>>11441855
Why

>>11441561
I shared it with friends yesterday, it quite pins the nail on the baltic porter style, lots of candied fruits (not sure about the value of this translation) and the fenugreek juste comes right in to bring some toast
I have several other beers from them waiting for the cold to really set in (Tart of darkness, Share this mole, Happens it's tuedsay and Mélange 3). dunno about the last 2, I think they're going to sit in the cellar for quite some time

enjoying pic related as we speak

>>11423740
too sweet, but good for a beer float

>>11439286
this and the vitus are both top-tier

The best

>>11442011
It's really really hoppy with almost bi bitterness to speak of. But if guant juice bomb.

>>11442025
Min bror

Rate today's custom six

>>11422531
Black Gold this year is excellent!

>>11440773
You should probably be looking into why aging works for these beers and then adjust age to taste.

Alternatively you could stock up now and pull a bottle out every 6 months or something for next 10 years. You were gonna wait for bottles to age anyway.
But a lot of places recommend 6 months to a year as a starting point.

>>11442991
>>11443002
Put down the bottle

>>11441779
Oh. Well I guess I won't get it then since even here in Belgium it costs €3 per small bottle

>>11443154
I'm so fucking sick of this hazy ipa fad, especially when all the West Coast breweries are jumping on the bandwagon.

>>11443504
>jumping on the bandwagon
You mean doing it better than the easterners?

OYE CUNTS
as someone who prefers hard cider over beer, what is a beer that is comparable in terms of being comfy tangy slightly sweet and refreshing

>>11420120
>CBS is literally better than any wine

>>11443154
god i would love to try an almanac ipa

>>11443733
Probably Saisons or some form of Sour beer.
As a general rule, ales are fruitier, lagers are crisper.

Have you explored hard ciders much? It would help if you weren't an American cause I have no idea about the cider culture there

>>11441591
its well worth 3 euros mate

>>11420785
Trent? Fuck you.

>>11443733
sours

>>11443752
alright then i guess one bottle can't hurt
I just hope other anon isn't right

>>11443716
>has never had a fresh neipa.
West coast ioas are trash.

>>11443943
I have a fridge full of Monkish, pal.

How many beers do you have to drink in order to get drunk?
Is it normal that 2 beers are enough for me? I know a lot people that drink 10+ beers a night...

>>11445452
I can't really drink beer fast enough to really get drunk, just tipsy. I switch to vodka when I want to get drunk/go to sleep.

>>11445452
I feel pretty solid after 2 or 3, but I'm not a fat ass or someone with something to prove so I never really try to push my tolerance

>>11445452
A double IPA followed by a single is my ideal buzz. Pints, of course, and always with a meal. Any more than that and I start to feel sick / can't drive for several hours. Beer automatically regulates my alcohol intake because of fullness.

>>11443733
The end of a rope

>>11429443
Citra sucks, i like Sorachi Ace

>>11443154
looks like a customized headache. Why wouldn't you mix in some lager or dark porter? Or do you like being an insufferable hophead?
>>11443733
Have you tried Lambic?

>>11419988
CBS > KBS and anyone who disagree is an idiot.

Today I've drank a bottle of Chimay Grande Réserve barrel aged 2018, aged on oak whiskey barrels. It was not as good as last years rum barrel aged, just slightly better than the ordinary kind. I also drank two beers from Founders, the Better Half one was really good, a perfect blend of sweetness, darkness and fullness. The other one was meh. Also downed 3 local shit lagers just to keep the buzz up during the day.

>>11443733
Do you like your cider dry or sweet? If sweet, try some fruit beers. Lindemans Apple is one of the more well known. If you like dry ciders and really want to get into beer I guess some fruity, non-bitter IPAs could do the job. Look for New England IPAs, DIPAs or possibly imperial IPAs.

>>11426411
the standard 5% faxe is ok if it's cool enough
the 10% has to be frozen by ice giants to taste like shitty very alcoholic beer at best

It's like liquid heroin.

>>11443154
I'm kind of over the haze craze, but I'm just glad you're happy anon 4/5

Founders Imperial Stout > CBS and KBS and its discontinuation is a terrible loss.

>>11446112
Same. Back to regular ipas for me

>>11445906
Isn't heroin usually administered in liquid form?

>>11446176
I mean, you can smoke and snort it too

>>11445841
Lager is for basic bitches. I don't like porters. Pale Ales and IPAs and sours are what I do.
>posts the most basic bitch lambic ever
>>11446112
>>11446164
I like clears too, but I'm already sitting on too much Pliny and a four of Noble Citra Showers.

>>11446130
My favorite founders beer has to be breakfast stout. Its available year round and its a solid stout.

My least favorite has to be lizard of koz

>>11446712
Non pleb choice coming through.

>>11429094
Are either of those from Praire?

>>11447027
The two on the right are.

>Pretty Good Count: 5
Here are the beers in this thread that are Pretty Good:
Fat Orange Cat White Stout
Central Waters' barrel program
New Clarus Cho
Pilsner Urquell
Sawdust City Belgian Enkel

>Pretty Great Count: 2
Here are in the beers in this thread that are Pretty Great:
Founders Doom
Fremont Brew2000

>>11447140
Founders Doom is average at best. Malt bomb.

>>11447027
Paradise and xmas bomb

>>11447262
I'll take midwestern IPA for $1000 Alex.

>>11447140
Ready to revise this?

>>11447262
Don't shoot the messenger

>>11446712
>My favorite founders beer has to be breakfast stout
Neat, I've never tried it and have a bottle waiting to be consumed tomorrow night.

>>11447365
get fucked you dog. p-please tell me what hill farmstead ipas are like

>>11447365

Dat Florence Puncheon tho

>>11420040
Go fuck yourself

It’s not just the alcohol content that determines the price, just butt chug some rubbing alcohol you shit.

>>11424226
>wanting to have to drink more to get drunk
literally why

>>11424226
This is the smart way
>>11424236

Otherwise simulate college by doing shots of aristocrat until you throw up, eventually you will be able to drink more.

>>11448756
It's just a guess but if you actually enjoy beer you might want to be able to enjoy more than one or two without getting wasted.

>>11420040
>durrr if it doesn't have more than 15% alcohol then what's the point of drinking it
I hate people like you. I bet you drink Everclear straight because it's "the highest".

>>11448592
#6,#7 or #8?

>>11423078
>Zoller-hof
My man

>>11449095
That beer looks incredibly smug.

>>11449160
Yup. It has reasons though.

>>11433911
Fun fact: very few modern hop varieties are the product of breeding.

>>11449241
Ment to say plants not varieties.

>>11447262
That's a product of aging also. The drink your IPA's fresh thing isnt a meme.

>>11419988
I'm still waiting for CBS to come to Toronto as it's apparently hitting shelves later this month.
I have one bottle of KBS left that I'm having tonight along with Tennant's Imperial Stout, I've never had CBS and hope I can grab a couple to have for Christmas and New Year's. Otherwise we have some decent barrel aged stouts and porters here in Toronto so if I miss out its not too bad.

>>11421037
>>it was widely available in Ontario at $8 CAD
He's lying, CBS when it came out 2 years ago went flying off the shelves. Only KBS stays on the shelves and that one is $7 CAD for a bottle.