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11347719 No.11347719 [Reply] [Original]

Is bread actually better in France than it is in America?

>> No.11347729

>>11347719
Yes.

>> No.11347786

20 years ago.

>> No.11347787

>>11347719
Only the fresh one in the bakery yes

>> No.11347791

Top tier bread is much more common in France, but there are a handful of places in the states that have world renowned bread, like acme. Same with cheese: French cheese might be better on average, but Humboldt Fog is one of the best cheeses in the world that's not go-fuck-yourself expensive.

>> No.11347805

>>11347791
This. General standards for bread are much higher in France than in the US. Same goes for food quality in general. But the US is a pretty rich country, and rich people like nice things and are willing to pay for them. So you can find good bread here. You're not going to find it in the supermarket, though. It'll be at a dedicated artisan bakery, and it will not be cheap.

>> No.11347838
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>>11347719
Yes, but it's best in Germany

>> No.11347840

>>11347838
German baking is top tier. Poland, too.

>> No.11347848

>>11347840

Vollkornbrot is fucking amazing. I'm thinking of opening up for retail on Sundays essentially just so I can have an excuse to make/sell it.

>> No.11347853

>>11347791
I do feel like theres a lot more diversity in bread in Germany/France than the US.

Maybe I don't know bc all of the artisanal bakeries around me push sourdough primarily

>> No.11347855
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>>11347840
Any recomendations for Polish baked goods? Gonna go there for a couple of days next month.

>> No.11347856

controversial but ultimately undeniably true opinion: rye is a meme

>> No.11347863

>>11347856
I agree, but rye and wheat mix is goat-tier you faggot.

>> No.11347879
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>>11347855
really depends what region you visit exactly, but it's generally very easy to find good bakeries and good or even great bread is very cheap here
many bakeries offer pączki, which are almost invariably good

as far as bread goes, Poland is most famous for it's rye and whole wheat bread, we don't really have a long tradition of making white bread

>>11347856
rye is great both for bread and vodka

>> No.11347935

>>11347719
Yes. In fact almost every food product I can think of is better in France than America. Including burgers.

>> No.11347949
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11347949

>>11347879
and don't forget rye-whiskey, that stuff is good, too.

I will be near to Lowicz, is there any regional dish you would recomend? (anything, not just baked goods)

>> No.11347953

You can pick pretty much any market or bakery in France and get pretty good bread. Certainly some will be better than others, but on a whole it'll all be pretty decent. In the US, you need to know what you're looking for. A few places will make very good bread, but the majority will just have additive-ladened mass-produced trash.

>> No.11347983

>>11347949
>years of Polish independence from USSR, Germany or Brussels: 0.

>> No.11348021
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11348021

>>11347983
> still have pork, booze and compfy wellfare-bucks from euros
your move amerimutt

>> No.11348131

>>11348021
Ok you got me, I'm buying my whole pork bellys from Poland because they're superior meat/fat ratio than US (even pasteured) and a fair price. Used to get comparable quality and pricing from Canada but our friendly neighborhood cheeto fucked that to hell.

>> No.11348170

>>11347719
The bread I buy is made in France and flown in.

>> No.11348177

Homemade bread is perfectly adequate at releasing serotonin when eaten.

>> No.11348179

>>11348170
Found the environmentalist

>> No.11348191

>>11348170
Pain Poilane?

>> No.11348337

Yes but only because Americans are capable of ruining every single fucking food and everything is better literally anywhere else. There is nothing special about French bread.

>> No.11349958

>>11348021
I’m not American, Soicuckzy.

>> No.11350561

>>11347855
if you want savoury baked snacks, get a pasztecik or a cebularz

>> No.11350589

>>11347848
This looks like hot ass mate

>> No.11350626

First thing I got in Paris last month was a pseudo-banh mi, I thought it would be crap but then I bit in the bread and it was amazing. Also good croissants everywhere. I thought we had good bread in Montreal but forgot how much better it is in Furansu. And here it's a coin flip whether a croissant is good and fresh or old and mushy.

>> No.11350668

>>11350626
>tfw not nearly enough options for nice crusty bread around here

I lived in Montreal for a few years and while it was good, I'm seconding that it didn't live up to France. Could be confirmation bias as a visitor but still.

Live in downtown ottawa now off of parliament hill and there's like two places max with the bread I'm into. The rest is all mass produced flavorless stuff. Bums me right out

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>>11347719
Yes for fresh bread you buy at the bakery, but your buns are better. You can't find good buns or even industrial bread loaf in supermarkets. The strangest thing is our local burger chain (came from Belgium) called Quick, where the buns are dry as fuck. Some boomer must think that the french consumers like dry bread or nobody has the guts to tell those boomer that their bread is shit.

>> No.11351167

>>11347719
Yes. The same in Germany. Bread is amazing in both these countries. Although Poland is also up there

>> No.11351202

>>11347719
It's not enriched, so it doesn't constipate, and it's much cheaper, 0.50 - 2.00 euro for a baguette.

>> No.11351283

>>11351202
I have a dutch, 2 German, and about 2 different French bakeries here. Prices like you quote are meaningless.

>> No.11351307

>>11347838
We don't have much, but we have our bread

>> No.11351324

>>11351307
Germs do bread better, they can make something other than white bread.

>> No.11351531

>>11351283
>french bakery
>not in france
hmm