/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11286478
Try sprouted/germinated/GABA rice, it has a bit more nutrients.

at least we have brown rice, right? haha... yeah...

>>11286478
Use quinoa instead

yeah I'm sick of having to limit carbs
I want to eat ALL the carbs! Chips, crackers, bread... god.. BREAD. Rice, noodles, pasta. But no. I really don't want to be fat. And I don't do enough physical exertion to warrant the amount of carbs I truly want to intake.

Life is suffering.

>>11286478
rice isnt unhealthy you just gotta use your brain solve math problems after you eat it thats how asians eat rice and stay skinny.

>>11286478
>very unhealthy
Says who?

>>11286478
>very unhealthy for you
fuck off ketard. rice is one of the healthiest foods you can eat, fruit is the only thing better.

>>11286478
>Simple carbs is bad stuff meme
There's nothing wrong with rice if you aren't a fucking pig. Same with bread, pasta, or potatoes. It just can't be all you eat, but it's fine as a side.

>>11286513
i know this is copypasta but it's fucking true, I JUST WANT CARBS

>>11286524
>>11286516
>>11286525
samefag. also rice isn't any healthier than white/sourdough bread. sure in moderation it's fine but you can't load up on it like i want to

fuck how do the asians do it?

>>11286524
enjoy your beetus carbfag

>>11286534

They aren't snacking on chips and soda the rest of the time.

If you are talking about weight loss, it's been shown that doing low carb vs low fat doesn't really make a difference (Keto might boast longevity and health benefits from the ketones themselves). Calories in/out still trumps all.

>>11286493
I like the flavor and texture of brown rice more, but felt put off to eating it after learning it's higher in arsenic than white rice and pretty much any other grain

>>11286534
>fuck how do the asians do it?

Ask him.

>>11286537
t. fat fuck retard

>>11286689
>eat right
>feel light
lmao

>>11286478
Quit eating white rice and throwing shit tons of butter in it. It can be healthy how the fuck do you think Asians are so skinny?

The rice in OP's pic looks dry...

Calrose or equivalent medium grain rice should be cooked with a slightly higher ratio than 1:1. Especially if it's not sprouted.

>>11286507
Yeah just starve out an entire nation for your shitty meme grain

>>11286507
>eating bird feed

>>11286723
Being thin doesn't necessarily mean you're healthy.

>Try cauliflower "rice"
>Just tastes like shredded cauliflower
>Try konjac "rice"
>Just tastes like beads of gelatin

Fuck diets

>>11286729
It grow in Canada and I buy this one
kys sjw

>>11286788
Doesn't matter where it grows. Peruvians have been priced out of their life long staple because of world demand.

>>11286478
>be rice
>very tasty

Rice is extremely bland.

>>11286531
no its not, i wrote that like a couple hours ago damnit

>>11286807
Perhaps peruvians should make some GM quinoa that gets magnificent yields then

>>11286807
Thank you, you showed me the problem with my choice. Now, I'll only be careful to buy Peruvian quinoa to starve them more. The less shitskins there is in the world, the more of us can live.

>>11286729
Post your daily diet and you will be ripped a new asshole concerning the consequences it has on other countries and cultures. You think someone eating quinoa is doing big harm? What do you eat, big boy? Go on, lets have at it.

>>11286739
>>Try cauliflower "rice"
>>Just tastes like shredded cauliflower
What did you expect when buying shredded cauliflower exactly?

>>11286729
I don't give a shit quinoa is fucking delicious. Roast that shit a bit before cooking it in beef stock and it tastes amazing. I don't know how people continue to eat bland ass fucking white rice.

>>11286483
This. Sprouted rice tastes almost the same as white rice, just a bit "meatier". It isn't chewy or mushy like brown rice can be and it's actually much healthier than it.

>>11286513
I eat bread all day - breakfast, lunch and dinner. I work a desk job, and then I come home and sit here at my desk for an additional 4 hours or so. 6 ft, 130 pounds. I don't know what the fuck is going on, I was told to eat bread to gain weight... why the fuck are they lying to me?

>>11286478
Nah man. Everything nice is bad for you. Sticky rice, 30-year-old scotch, tobacco. You just gotta accept that being happy is off-limits in this world.

>>11286845

Quinoa bowl with Mexican avocado, Peruvian mango, Japanese blue fin tuna, Chinese sesame seeds, and Indian black tiger shrimp.

>>11286879
Go to bed skelly man.

>>11286534
>How the fuck do Asians do it?
They eat small portions of food in a balanced diet while drinking water and tea to stay hydrated and doing regular exercise.

>>11286879
Maybe you have a parasite

>>11286879
thats not so good man, stop eating all this bread and move a little

>>11286478
>be eggs
>very tasty
>compliments any food
>good for you

>>11286478
It's not unhealthy, you need to recognize the pattern of excess conservatism in the establishment vs a contrarian backlash.

For a long time the medical establishment basically said carbs are good, fats are bad. They always knew fat in general wasn't bad, but they thought that because fats are high in calories, a low-fat diet might be a good way to reduce calories. They thought saturated fats are bad for various reasons, including a strong relation between *serum* blood cholesterol and heart disease.

Fast forward 30 years and the evidence that dietary saturated fat isn't bad isn't quite so strong. And contrarians jump onto this an make it seem like there has been a conspiracy against fats this whole time.

A reasonable conclusion is that fat is fine, the ratio of saturated to unsaturated fat is important, and saturated fat may be bad. As far as carbs are concerned, avoid highly processed carbs, but white rice is not bad. The main problem with rice, and wheat to a lesser extent, is it's low in protein and so forces you to get protein from animal sources to make up for it. What I do is eat a small amount of grains, medium amount of legumes, and medium amount of animal protein.

>>11286534
>fuck how do the asians do it?
This is an example of a contrarian. The evidence (that Asians are very healthy despite a diet high in white rice) is right in front of them but they can't accept it.

>>11286525
Rice is a complex carb dipshit

>>11286881
lmao

>>11286973
>60% daily cholesterol intake per egg

>>11286620
>after learning it's higher in arsenic
Thanks for permanently ruining rice for me asshole

>>11286723
i dont use butter just a drop of oil and a tiny tiny pinch of salt. its so yummy plain already but you add meat and veggies and it becomes amazing

wish it wasnt bad for you :(

>>11287120
It's good cholesterol you vegan pilpul nigger faggot, 3 eggs a day is optimal for health, lifespan and muscle growth

>>11286935
I am going to bed soon, but that never gains me any weight, ass.

>>11286954
I tested for that.

>>11286960
I know it can't be good, but why is everyone saying that bread makes you fat when it clearly isn't the case?

>>11287067

>>Not a conspiracy

Yes it is a conspiracy. Its effects are still in seen to this day... >>11287120

>>11287126
Rice was already ruined for you, he just enlightened you as to why. You should be thanking him.

fuck i just wanted to complain about how much I like rice not start a diet shitstorm

i guess this is /ck/ nowadays though if you don't like a food or do like a food it's because you're fat/keto/vegan/retarded, jesus everyone just DIE

>>11287120
What's it like living in 1992

>>11287150
Please explain how there is a conspiracy.

My understanding is that there is a strong link between serum cholesterol and both total mortality and heart disease. There is a complex link between serum cholesterol and dietary cholesterol. In the past the latter was overestimated, and now the medical establishment recognizes that generally dietary cholesterol isn't important. But in some individuals (detected by having high serum cholesterol) it still might be.

>>11286478
Brown rice

>>11286947
dumbass. You think asians eat small portions and a balanced diet? What planet are you from? Asians eat tons and its 80% carbs, rice, noodles, tons of pork. Have you seen a "large" bowl of ramen in Japan? Its massive and yes they will eat all of that in one sitting, yet yurocucks cry about muh American portions. Ive been all over asia, its their genetics. We like laughing at fat fucks in the west claiming muh genetics, but they actually have a point. Your genetics a large role in how your body handles a lot of food.
I dont get where westerners get this retarded notion that asians dont eat a lot or they are just constantly working out or something. Asians dont typically ever go to a gym. You think just walking to the subway or to work and home uses all that food energy?
Ive dated a few asian girls, they weigh roughly 100 pounds soaking wet, and eat exactly the same shit I do, sometimes more. last gfs diet consists of Taco Cabana, triple steak burgers from steak n shake, whataburger, and panda express, doesnt cook (ever), and doesnt know what working out means, and she weighs about as much as a bag of groceries. lets stop kidding ourselves, asians just dont store fat easily.

https://youtu.be/qY7UJWHqvhY

>>11286478
Millet

>>11287230

In Japan, yes they do eat a small portion. A regular ramen bowl (IN JAPAN) has no more than 400 mL of soup, and no more than 150g of noodles. I know, because I worked in one.

And working class Asians in general work long hours. A regular 12 hour day is not unheard of in both blue and white collar jobs. More work = less time to eat.

And diabetes, CHD, etc is still on the rise in modern areas of Japan.

Those Asian girls you're talking about are going to have all sorts of problems in the future.

>>11286879
What makes you fat is eating over your average caloric intake. 1300 calories of meat and 1300 of bread are the same. Note how bigger people/creatures eat a lot

Who else puts some sriacha in the water when they make rice, gives a good kick

>>11286840
rude

>>11287145
Before I turned about 22 - 23 years old I could as many calories as I wanted, all day long, and I stayed 5'10", 140ish. Weighed even less in high school. Beer, burgers, pizza, candy, ...large meals. It didn't matter

Then as I got older it changed and I started to gain weight. Now in my 30's I have to very careful or else I'll blow up.

I don't know how old you are but I was in your situation once. Maybe you will always be like that, and lucky you!

>>11287414
i havent actually tried that. i'll have to try that next time i make rice it sounds nice

>>11287230
>Oh shit a mukbang video! This proves that Asians have magical genes!

>>11287230
bulimia.

>>11286478
>unhealthy
Stop being a stupid fat nigger cargo cult housewife and stop grouping disparate unrelated disjoint categories into a single meme classification. Go learn some fundamental nutrition before you spew diarrhea all over the board. If you have sufficient calories "left over" and have hit your fat and protein macros there is nothing wrong with eating rice as a filler. Treat it appropriately. Now do the world a favour and get your tubes tied.

If this was a troll well done you fucking got me.

>>11286513
t.virgin agriculturist

>>11286524
Rice is just cheap empty carbs used to keep peasants fed. There's nothing nutritious about it.

>>11286723
First off, being thin does not mean being healthy.

>>11286879
Literally kill yourself for being a brainlet, then consider the fact that an entire loaf of bread is only about 1500 kcal

>>11287120
What's it like being dumber than biologists, the niggers of the science world.

>>11287564
>eat rice
>get fat
>"stop being fat jesus christ"

>>11287595
>eat rice
>somehow violate laws of physics and spontaneously create energy

>>11286478
I love rice. It's great when you're hungry and you want 1,000 of something.

>>11286478
>rice is unhealthy
>asians live the longest

>>11287230
>Having your diet include Taco Cabana and Panda Express.
She isn't your current GF, right?

>>11287230
She was purging.

>>11287474
This chart is terrible. You have no fucking idea what the middle colors are supposed to be.

>>11286727
cringe

>>11286478
why do you think rice is unhealthy?

>>11286514

>>11287982
I know. Who the fuck would talk about cooking food on the Food & Cooking board?

>>11286880
>living a long life is preferable to living an enjoyable life
I want this meme to stop. I work out 3 days a week, do cardio on the other 3 days, and rest on sunday. I eat whatever the fuck I want and I don't care if drugs, booze, cigars, carbs, or red meat kill me at age 70. I don't feel like living like a decrepit old man for an extra 30 years tops, while descending into dementia and shitting my diaper.

>>11288008
Unhealthy habits might not kill you abruptly, they might simply reduce your quality of life. If you develop heart problems or experience a stroke, are you just gonna commit suicide after that? Probably not - hardly anyone ever commits suicide. And the effects of hard living are not confined only to a person's senior years. Look at Lindsay Lohan if you doubt that (an extreme example, granted). A 40-year-old person with an unhealthy lifestyle might feel or look the same as a 55-year-old who lived more responsibly. You can't dodge consequences by simply saying "I'll die before it matters."

>>11288036
None of my meat-eating, alcohol drinking, family members has had cardiovascular disease. The smokers haven't had any cancer yet and I only smoke the occasional cigar. I am not worried about my vices having negative consequences before my 70s. Sucks to have shit genetics or to be a couch potato I guess.

>>11288036
None of my meat-eating, alcohol drinking family members has had cardiovascular disease. The smokers haven't had any cancer yet and I only smoke the occasional cigar. I am not worried about my vices having negative consequences before my 70s. Sucks to have shit genetics or to be a couch potato I guess.

>>11288093
i think i read this reply or a similar one in a different thread about 20 minutes ago. i wish i could use my family to justify my decisions and deflect all criticism

>>11286513
Do like pic related. Unlimited carbs everyday and he is lean as fuck. I do the same. 5'9'' x 150 lbs, I lift ad I am super ripped. Carbs won't make you fat, but will make you lean.

>>11286513
>eat carbs
>go to gym
>burn carbs
I don't see the issue desu

>>11288096
>deflect all criticism
>genetics isn't real

I enjoy my life the way I'm living it right now and I am not going to swear off the things I find enjoyable just because doing so may let me shit my pants in a retirement home for some extra years.

I never said I was planning to develop a cocaine habit while mainlining cheeseburgers and surgically grafting my ass to my couch, but orthorexia is still a mental disorder. I do what I can to stay healthy, within reason. Swearing off red meat, egg yolks, dairy, and simple carbs is not reasonable. Just make sure you exercise regularly and stop worrying so much.

>>11286879
The average human Only Stores 10% of carbs to fat stores. It's hard to gain weight on a carb heavy diet unless your digestion is really out of balance.

>>11286534
The asians have climbing diabetes rates despite not being that overweight (Japan is only 2% less than the U.S. in people diagnosed with diabetes), so maybe they're not doing it that well. It doesn't help that they're eating more white bread and sugary foods than they used to a few decades ago.

>>11288112
>I need to go to the special inside "calorie burning place" to sweat
Roastie detected

>>11288008
>3 days of cardio a week

Gains goblin coming for u

>>11288193
>I'm afraid of cardio
Fat fuck detected

>>11286478
It's not necessarily unhealthy.

rice is the staple for pro cyclists

>>11286840
What color do you think Peruvians are, you fucking idiot?

>>11288193
>exercising for hypertrophy instead of functional strength and aerobic conditioning

>>11288300
>functional strength

crossfit faggot detected

>actually worrying about meme nutrition and meme fitness

Eat mostly clean, whole foods. Mostly, or entirely, plant based. Exercise regularly. If you eat trash, or eat extra food, exercise more. It is L I T E R A L L Y that simple. Anything other than this is a meme.

>>11287230
It's hard to take you seriously when you back your claims with a binge-eating Youtube meme video instead of studies.

>>11288284
Poo, dots and feathers my dude

>>11288319
can't agree more, anon.
dumbasses seem to need these clutches like fad diets while making stuff more complex than needed

>>11288300
if your trophy aint hyper yer fuckin up kid

>>11288335
What are you saying here?

>>11288319
>If you eat trash, or eat extra food, exercise more
You vastly overestimate how many calories can a body burn during workouts, shit advice.

>>11288319
>If you eat trash, or eat extra food, exercise more.
Exercise won't make you healthy if your diet is full of unhealthy food. Eating 2k calories in sugar every day won't be okay just because you walked a lot.

>>11288404
>Exercise doesn't burn calories

You have to go to college to be this stupid

>>11288404
That’s why I said to not do that most of the time. But if you, compensate for it. Stop trying to justify being fat and following your stupid fucking meme diets through mental gymnastics.

>>11288397
No, I’m really not. Maybe if you’re doing meme workouts or cardio, but you can burn insane amounts of calories through weight lifting. I’m also not referring to your eating disorder binges, I’m talking about a milkshake or a piece of pie or something after a day of otherwise clean eating.

>>11288430
>Most strength-training workouts burn only a modest amount of calories compared to aerobic activities. Half an hour of moderate weightlifting burns 112 calories if you weigh 155 pounds and 133 calories if you're 185 pounds, according to the Harvard Medical School.
That’s a quarter of a double cheeseburger, you fucking tool.

>>11288284
>triggered

>>11288439
Yeah, and vigorous weightlifting burns 266, and that’s only for a HALF HOUR. And it also helps you burn more calories throughout the day while at rest, you’re not burning off all the calories you eat in your workout, in one day, dipshit.

>>11287589
> t.Took one physics class now shitposts on 4chan all day over his tendies

>>11288457
Are you literally retarded? That guy wants to buy Peruvian produce... to starve the shitskins. How is pointing out such retardedness being triggered?

>>11288439
What's your point you fat fuck?

>Boohoo if I walk to my front door I don't burn 6 gorrillian calories

>>11287695
I really appreciated seeing this wholesome post nestled inside this tire fire of a thread. Rip Mitch.

>>11288468
Are you saying that it's retarded to starve the shitskins? You sound like a literal cuuck

>>11288507
I'm saying that buying food from a country of brown people to starve brown people is retarded.
Also, no, not being a sociopathic genocidal weirdo has nothing to do with cuckoldry. Go back to your shithole of a board.

>>11288461
WOW SUCH VIGOROUS TRAINING SIR, I bet people compliment yourself in your gym on your ruthlessness all the time. I bet you follow Jocko and Goggins. Give moving the goalposts a rest though. You burn at most 400 calories at rest after your vigorous training. It won’t help you if you eat trash, as you tried to imply in your first post, then “eating trash” suddenly turned into milkshake after a day of clean eating, that still can fuck up your macros goals btw.

>>11288470
I’m not American.

>>11288545
>Cuckoldry has nothing to do with cuckoldry and stop pointing out that I'm cucked because there is nothing wrong with it

>>11286478
>very unhealthy for you
what

>>11287711
Its unhealthy in the sense that it adds up faster than other foods so you need to seriously limit your intake.

>>11286879
If you are under 30, shut the fuck up until you turn 30

>>11288470
His point was that you grossly exaggerated the calories burnt through lifting and denied that cardio was better for burning calories, which it is. At the end of the day though, eating less is always superior to exercising more if you're cutting. Obviously you should combine the two but people tend to not realize just low little calories exercise burns.

>>11286807
They can eat rice

>>11288577
Don't give a shit about your pbsession with cuck fetish.

>>11288008
Anecdotal evidence here.
My grandmother lived to be 106 years old and all she ate, basically, was carbs, olive oil, butter and tallow. Know what killed her? A few months before her final birthday, she fell out of a tree. At 105 years old, bitch was climbing trees because "the best figs are at the top." When you break a bone at that age, it's a death sentence, so she died in horrific pain five months later, aged 106. Had she never fallen, she'd have outlived us all.
Into her hundreds, she was more active than most people I know. She didn't drive because old Leb women are notoriously cheap and driving costs money so she walked everywhere for everything. To the supermarket for groceries, which she'd then carry home on her back. To the doctor's office for check ups. To the church to talk shit with the church ladies on which ever church lady was out of ear shot. She gardened and grew her own vegetables, tilling her soil by hand. She was a beast and far from decrepit or frail nor was she suffering from dementia.

>>11288779
>you grossly exaggerated the calories burnt through lifting and denied that cardio was better for burning calories, which it is

No his point was that lifting weights burns calories and he is right . you complaining that you can't shove unlimited food in your gullet after weightlifting is a separate problem

>>11288843
Why are you defending cuckolding?

>>11286729
This is the only reason I eat quinoa.

>>11286729
It's mechanized and grown other places now, even Spain. There was never a problem, just a butthurt carnist with an axe to grind. I get it at Costco for $2.15 a pound

>>11286513
I maintain my sub-20 BMI by carbing up all day every day with starchy whole plant foods. It costs more energy to turn fat into fat. Read some actual peer reviewed papers instead of blogs and "man bites dog" headlines. Resources like sci-hub make paywalls trivial to bypass for anything not already on NCBI

>>11288900
ope just gonna sneeeaaak in a correction to this post I mistyped. I blame this shitty keyboard I'm using because I spilled water on my good one last night.
*less energy to turn fat into fat
*more energy to turn carbs into fat

>>11286478
No

>>11287067

saturated animal fats and heme iron will progress you to diabetes.

Just about my favorite food in this world is white (sometimes microwavable uncle ben's out of laziness) rice with marutomo soba tsuyu, a pinch of avocado oil and some bomb ass sashimi. I know soba tsuyu is for soba and not for rice but I just don't care call the cops.

>>11286735
>>11287579
fuck off fatties

Imagine if ketofags had to explain themselves in front of the ghosts of the bazillons of people that lived in agricultural societies and ate almost nothing but grain in their entire lives
There also could be a second session where they talk to the european royal doctors that usually had to help their lord with constant gout
It'd be a sight to behold

>>11288874
Because your fetish doesn't bother me. Live and let live and all that.
Although it'd be best if you keep it to yourself instead of bringing it up in every post.

>>11288966
Being overweight is definitely unhealthy but that still doesn't mean thin = healthy. A lot of drug addicts are thin.

>>11288977
and in the next decade when the ketofags are on dialesis because of all those "HEALTHY" ketones, everyone will weight in with the next big thing

>>11289012
With them, and all the gymbros abusing protein isolates, will it be a highly profitable time for urologists?

>>11289739
>salt more prevalent than ever
>bodybuilders taking strange hormone pills to reverse tranny themselves
>everyone obsessed with PROTEEINNN
>nobody paying attention to sodium:potassium ratio
Yes

>>11289749
You don't think there will be a net decline in stones with people switching from soda to seltzer? Do they find some other refined bullshit to make up those calories?

>>11287711
>implying Asians don't eat other food and have non-sedentary lifestyles while not consuming tons of pre-packaged foods full presevatives, processed sugar, and corn syrup

>>11288776
Not him but I'm 34 and I am like 5'11" 140lbs. Have been since I hit puberty

>>11287230
>Your genetics a large role in how your body handles a lot of food.

>one shot at life
>store fat easily
>store fat in the worst areas to store fat

this is epic

>>11288776
Hey hotshot, I'm 32. And like I said: bread with breakfast, lunch and dinner. I keep hearing assholes like YOU say that "OH YOU JUST WAIT", yeah, well I'm still WAITING. When is your shitty point going to become reality?

>>11290909
And then your life proved him right.

It's kinda funny how simple it is to make good choices: simple or complex. Bad or good choice. But people still don't get it. Must be simple people eating simple carbs and complex people eating complex carbs.

>>11287230
>Amerilard being this mad that other countries are healthier because they eat better food in smaller portions
Enjoy your HFCS injected everything.

>>11291154
Smaller portions yes. Better food, no. Japanese food has just as much added sugar as American stuff, if not more.

>>11287474
This chart is fucking bullshit, an average Mexican meal is 3000 calories, including mandatory soda. Even the poorest eat tortillas and beans, more than enough calories to not lower the general average too much.

>Ctrl+F
>wild
>0 results

Once again /ck/ has proven to be complete food plebs

>>11290909
You got memed by the Western civilization to think that your life is something special.

>>11291318
Looks like fucking tried out metal turnings.

>>11288312
Crossfit is for faggots. I do strict form compound lifts and calisthenics. I also cycle, run, and swim.

>>11286478

It's my preferred delivery method for arsenic.

>>11291318
>undomesticated rice
Probably not healthy to modern humans now.

>>11287067
Wypipo and asians are not the same thing lad

>>11286478
>tasty
oh, sweetie... i dont know how to tell you this... it really isn't tasty at all

>>11286723
Asians also have a very high rate of beetus because of all that rice.

>>11292441
It is in porridge form.

>>11292451
>The rate of diabetes in Japan is 7.2%, vs 12.6% in the U.S.

https://medium.com/the-mission/why-japanese-men-have-far-less-heart-disease-badbc3841322

>rice
>unhealthy
I hate everyone on this board