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Why do you think cheese and wine has been such a thing throughout history? I know I enjoy it and have done it over and over again in my life but I'm curious if someone has some more insight.

>> No.11250002

>>11249998
idk but i love me a fat dick in my mouth and around my lips

>> No.11250765

>>11249998
Shelf life.

>> No.11250769

>>11249998
huh?

>> No.11250783

>>11250002
Kys yourself

>> No.11250824

>>11249998
They both keep longer than regular food with little or no refrigeration.

>> No.11250856

>>11250002
>around my lips
what kinda wizardry is this?

>> No.11250861

>>11250783
>Kys yourself

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>>11250783
>>11250002 #

>> No.11251792
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Try this for a change. You take a nice strong Belgian pale or dark ale, for example a triple or quad. Then take a cheese (any cheese) and dip it in a mustard. Then eat the cheese and drink the beer together with a splash of dick & ass juice . Thank me later.

>> No.11251841

>>11250002
jewish poster?
>>11249998
add dry fruit and some cold cuts and repost this

>> No.11251879

>>11251792
Great recs anon, but I have to say, nothing goes better with cheese than a nice sour Geuze, or Belgian Red.
Rodenbach is 10/10

>> No.11252008

>>11249998
Cheese is creamy, strong and can overpower the palate. Wine is acidic, tannic and palate cleansing.

>> No.11252012

>>11250765
>>11252008
these

>> No.11252023

>>11251879
Which cheeses go well with beer? I mean, better than red wine?

>> No.11252041

>>11251792

eewww

>> No.11252042
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>>11252008
>there's only 1 type of cheese
>there's only 1 type of wine

>> No.11252044

>>11249998
I love feeding my wife wine and cheese because it gives her the best braps. The pricier it is, the better they smell.

>> No.11252061

An actual cider can work even better, since you can get them especially tart and tannic.

>> No.11252069

>>11252044
Truth, I sucks when you're broke though and have to resort to the bike pump.

>> No.11252071

>>11249998
They both originated due to necessity in the stone age. Grapes and milk are not things that keep for very long. Wine and cheese can keep for long periods of time in stone-age storage conditions.

In addition, lactose intolerance was, and still for the most part is, the norm for humanity. But for pastoral communities, it was a major advantage if you were able to drink milk straight out of the cow. Eventually, they adapted to be able to digest lactose. The other major group that was lactose tolerant was northern Europeans, since due to the lack of sunlight in the winter, milk was a valuable source of vitamin D to them. But if you weren't from either of these groups, the only way you could take advantage of the milk that your animals produced was to make cheese, which breaks down the lactose in the milk and makes it digestible.

>> No.11252079

>>11249998
>Why do you think cheese and wine has been such a thing throughout history?
Did you just assume I am white with European ancestry ?

>> No.11252086

>>11252008
Ricotta and Mozzarella do not overpower the palate.

>> No.11252095

>>11252071
Then why are most melanin-enriched people lactose tolerant? It's only asians and some whites that can't drink milk.

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>>11252095
why do you lie on easily verifiable facts?

>> No.11252137

because church rites and middleage's fasting days where you were not allowed to eat meat

>> No.11252156

>>11252105
Well im not lactose intolerant and no-one in my family is and we're all definitely melanized. Maybe your facts are bunk.

>> No.11252167

>>11252156
I know I shouldn't expect any kind of intelligence from your kind but I didn't know it was that bad
Fuck off retard

>> No.11252168

>>11252095
>>11252105
Lactose tolerance is actually quite prevalent in some parts of Africa. East and central Africans have lots of pastoral ancestry, and are highly lactose tolerant, but north and west Africans are completely lactose intolerant. Black people in America demonstrate higher rates of lactose intolerance because they were almost all from west Africa.

>> No.11252170

>>11252156
the map is lazy semplified, there are populations even in africa which are not lactose intollerants

>> No.11252232

>>11252105
I'm always confused by this graphic.

What does lactose intolerance even mean in this context, I see asians and black people eat icecream and milkshakes and shit all the time.

>> No.11252488

>>11252232
It's just a meaningless attempt to spew wh*te supremacy. My Korean waifu guzzles milk w/o any issues whereas our wh*tetrash neighbor is lactose intolerant and can't even handle pizza.

>> No.11252496

>>11252232
There's no lactose in cream, so ice cream is okay for most people. Cheaper ice cream is made with milk, but it's in small amounts, and usually ice cream isn't eaten in large quantities, so it doesn't cause an issue. I think most lactose intolerant people can have up to a cup of milk without issue. But if they start going over that, that's when digestive troubles start. Cheese is also low in or totally free of lactose.

It mostly just means you can't digest large quantities of it. I can drink a quart of milk and feel fine, but someone else who is okay with ice cream will drink a quart of milk and have severe cramping, diarrhea, gas, etc.

>> No.11252499

>>11252496
>Cheese is also low in or totally free of lactose.
Yogurt too

>> No.11252547

>>11250002
fpbp

>> No.11252590

>>11252496
>no lactose in cream
brainlet
>Cheese is also low in or totally free of lactose.
aged cheeses yes, fresh cheese like farmer's cheese or fresh mozzarella no
>>11252499
false, yogurt just comes with a high enough load of lactase to ease the burden

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>>11252008
>palate cleansing
it completely changes your palate you fucking retard, do you even know the basic of fucking wine pairing you stupid fucking americunt

>> No.11252853

>>11252590
>no lactose in cream
>brainlet
Yeah I was wrong about that, although it does have about half of what milk has so that means even lactose intolerant people can probably have up to 2 cups of it, which is more than most people eat of ice cream.

> fresh cheese like farmer's cheese or fresh mozzarella no
Yes, the whey is what contains most of the lactose. Ricotta has like 95% less lactose than whole milk.

>false, yogurt just comes with a high enough load of lactase to ease the burden
Neat.

>> No.11254138

>>11252496
>There's no lactose in cream
Wrong of course, as you worked out.
However this is one reason why sour cream exists. It's the cheese of cream basically.

Also, there are a variety of soured milks which exist so that lactose intolerant populations can drink milk.
I have some Mongolian curd milk in my fridge, it's sour AF but actually not bad.

>> No.11254159

>>11254138
>I have some Mongolian curd milk in my fridge, it's sour AF but actually not bad.
Sounds interesting. I'd like to try kumis at some point.

>> No.11255295

>>11252042
Obviously there are exceptions. There is a broad spectrum of wines and cheeses and pairings vary. Some cheeses might not go well with some wines or even any wines. The vast majority of cheeses have a way of taking over the palate, through richness (creamy cheeses) or strength (blue cheese) or even sweetness or saltiness, which a certain type of relatively tart, tannic wine can cut through to prevent it becoming unpleasant
>>11252086
I would say that they can create a cloying, overly rich sensation in the mouth which wine can cut through.
>>11252695
Perhaps palate cleansing was the wrong phrase. I am basically trying to say that wine can cut through and reduce a strong flavour which is overpowering the palate, as well as tasting nice in combination with it through contrast.

>> No.11255373

>>11249998
Wine tastes sweeter with cheese as its concentrated salty flavour contrasts with the wine.