/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Just order a whiskey, Chad.

>>11186081
Yes. "Neat" is the word. Everything else is by definition homosexual and/or feminine (not necessarily a bad thing).

>>11186087
Check out this old boomer

>>11186081
I don't understand it's just a drink what's so girly about food? It all comes out the same anyways no matter the gender

>>11186081
I'm beer 74 of the weekend, don't sweat it. If you like bunny fufu drinks who cares. Do you really care? Nobody else does
>oh look that drinks fag drinks
>whatever let's go back to focusing on me

>>11186096
>I'm beer

Whiskey rocks

>>11186081
Yes but as women drink beer and whiskey these days and guys drink cocktails and sweet drinks the walls have crumbled a bit and nobody really cares what you drink.

>>11186087
(not necessarily a bad thing).

>>11186081
Whatever you want. The cocktail itself isn't girly, it's a man being a pansy and making a scene about it that makes it girly.

>>11186092
Nah he's just describing flyover life from personal experience

I've lived there, I should know

>>11186096
Are you me?

sorry ladies

>>11186095
It's all about how certain foods/drinks are perceived in social settings and the normal consumers of those items. Kinda like how pepperoni pizza is a children's food.

>>11186081
>Are "manly drinks" a thing?
Old fashioned, Martini, Manhattan, Negroni, Sazerac, etc.

Basically any cocktail that is more liquor than mixer, particularly if it isn't very sweet.

>>11187400
perfect response.
/thread

>>11186081
Brown liquor(rum, whiskey, etc) with coke. Also margaritas in the right environment like at a Mexican restaurant.

>>11186081
Vodka martini, shaken not stirred.

>>11186081
Every time I see something billed as a "manly drink" it's solely because of the insufferable douchebaggy, dudebroey marketing campaign surrounding it. It's usually as sugar-packed and low-alcohol as anything considered a "girly drink", its supposed manliness comes only from the fact that its got a "badass" name and either edgy black and green/red labelling if its a prepackaged product or a dumb, gimmicky garnish if its a cocktail.

If your so insecure in your worth as a man that you need to change your lifestyle to fix it, go ahead and take belts of everclear straight out of the bottle. Otherwise, drink what you like and disregard anyone garbagey enough to assess you as a person based solely on your preferred method of getting greased.

I'd say something like a bloody mary, a rum and coke, and an old fashioned are manly

>>11187354
Thank you for reminding me of something. About 15 odd years ago, I remember always picking a bar up of pic related at a golf course which I went to occassionaly. Good fuck I'd love to see the reaction to its marketing nowadays.

>>11186081
Any drink can be a manly one if you drink it while grunting out puffs of anger like a primitive man-beast.

>>11187400
> Basically any cocktail that is more liquor than mixer, particularly if it isn't very sweet.

That's a shit definition, mate. It includes practically all sours: the base template is 2 oz base spirit, 3/4 oz acidic component (usually lemon or lime), and 1/2-3/4 oz sweetener.
So a margarita would definitely be a manly drink, considering it uses an 80 proof orange liqueur as sweetener. As would a gimlet, or even a cosmopolitan.
The eggwhite in an oldschool Whiskey Sour may take the non-alcoholic components over 2 oz total. Is that not a manly drink?
Also that same definition makes whisk(e)y and soda, G&Ts and Rum&coke non-manly, along with practically all highballs.

>>11187400
>>11186081
IF you want a manly drink, try a Boulevardier - the rye whiskey version of a Neegroni
its pure alcohol, a potent natural T booster

>>11187457
I always thought a bloody mary was a girl drink since my mom would have them all the time.

>>11187613
>its pure alcohol, a potent natural T booster
Assuming the common recipe (equal parts), a 18% ABV vermouth and a 50 proof Rye (could be bourbon too, but that doesn't really matter for this), that's 31% ABV before stirring, which will dilute it further. As compared to an Old fashioned, which ends up at about 37 percent before stirring, assuming 80 proof, 1 tablespoon of simple syrup (or soda water), and not counting the bitters (which would increase the total alcohol content by a tiny bit). So even with a lot of leeway towards the boulevardier, it's still less alcoholic in total than an old fashioned. If you want pure alcohol, drink everclear or Spyritus.
That said, the negroni and its variants are really good cocktails. Some find it too bitter, but personally I like to even cut the sweet vermouth back a little. Definitely do try it. Appearently, some people are insecure about it because it's bright read, but honestly, fuck those people.

>>11187734
>50 proof rye
t.mixologist

>>11187744
Ah, fuck, got me there. I don't usually deal in burger lingo as far as alcohol content is concerned, just thought it would be appropriate to use proof here seeing as I'm talking about american whiskey. Meant 50%, obviously, so 100 proof. The argument is still the same though, I did the math in %ABV.

>>11187400
Don’t forget the Rusty Nail

I'm so sorry you are all so insecure.

>>11187400
/thread

but you forgot Moscow Mule.

>>11187400
Don't forget about the Amber Moon. A true Gentlemans drink for hangover cure when you have an hard day of work coming at you.

>>11186081
Scotch, Whiskey, Brandy, Gin.

>>11186081
>Are "manly drinks" a thing?
Yes but if you're concerned with a drink being girly or manly you've already failed at being manly

>>11186081
Paper airplanes are manly
I would say last words are too. Most girls gag with chartreuse

>>11186081
There's a cocktail out there for everyone desu.

>>11187400
>Manhattans are manly

you realize this is a woman's drink through and through, right

Steelies

>>11187464
those bars are the shit, man.
>tfw eating a delicious yorkie bar
>fat SJW sees the wrapper
>OMG girlz can do anything boyz can do!
>she eats the bar
>God sees her consume forbidden fruit, and turns her into a pillar of salt

>>11188085

>>11186081

You can't gender a liquid, just drink the stuff you like.

>>11186081
Boilermaker is manliest.
Everything else on rocks/neat is just manly.
Most other two-ingredient drinks are neutral.
Most things 2/3rds non-alcohol ingredients are not-manly.
Anything involving at least 2 “fruit” flavored ingredients is universally not “manly”.
>sticky this post so every other 17 year old can see it uppon entering. We’ve done this a million times

>>11187457
Bloody marys are for 40 year old (white) women.

>>11186081
>So "girly drinks" is a word.
but "girly drinks" is two words

>>11188327
good post

>>11186081
WHISKY WITH BITTERS NO ICE

no poofta drinks aloud

>>11186081
No, just have some fucking class.

>>11187734
>Appearently, some people are insecure about it because it's bright read, but honestly, fuck those people.
My dad thought it was a girly drink when he saw me drinking one, he tried it after that. He was pretty surprised.

>>11187530
Kind of is on the specifics, but he did comment on the fact that those considered manly tend to be less sweet. I think that last parts a big factor

>>11186081
Well that is honestly very dependant on the country, because drinks, as well as ideas of masculinity, differ wildly.

Still in general, as a long time frequent traveler, I'd recommend you to avoid most mixes altogether. Unless they're very subtle mixes that enhance the taste of some quality spirit, or combine a couple of them, you should generally drink it as straight as possible. But certainly drowning any alcohol under gallons of fruit juice and soft drinks is unacceptable.

Among manly drinks:
>beer
Manly, but not classy. At least go with good ones, pick among small local productions or amber/dark beers run by real men, there surely are some nearby, and avoid going for big brands, avoid especially lagers, light/pale ales, and especially the piss Americans drink.
>wine
All of them, except dessert/sugary wines, and cheap sparkling wine that is neither Champagne or Crémant. There's no "color" that's faggy, there's just people that don't know shit about wine, with the exception of non-sparkling white wine maybe, which can certainly complement a dish, but that has little reason to be enjoyed alone unless it's really out of this world.
>brandy and eau de vie
Cognac, Armagnac, Brandy de Jerez, are all manly as fuck. Don't think anything in this category is faggy.
>whiskey
Taste some good ones until you can recognize which ones are good, which ones aren't, which ones you like. If you run into bad whiskey at a bar or party, don't think it is "unmanly", it happens, it's still manlier to bad shit whisky than to refuse it, but then make sure to complain loudly about how much it tastes like shit. Drink it fresh or cold, in a cold glass, avoid ice like the plague.
>rhum
Dark, gold, amber rums generally straight, clear rums are better complimented with a touch of lime. Make sure to cut that lime and squeeze it yourself for extra manliness, ti'punch style. Adding triple sec and angostura bitters is acceptable as well, probably the only mixes that are manly.

>>11188691
>herbal liqueurs
Only high-class ones, such as absinthe, Bénédictine, Chartreuse, génépi, Mechitharine, pastis, Kräuterlikör, or Krasnaya Polyana Balsam. Vermouth is debattable and can be quite faggy, just go with a good one, and avoid Martini.
>vodka and other pure ethanol spirits
Only when you want to get drunk, there's hardly anything to appreciate with those, but they often result in drinking contests which are manly as long as you're winning.

Yes, tequila and gin are faggy.

>>11187914
Based. Anything with ginger beer is good.

>>11186081
>"girly drinks" is a word
no, it is in fact a noun phrase

>>11186087
>(not necessarily a bad thing)
What are you, a faggot?

bovril and lion jerky

>>11186081
As I understand it, a "manly drink" is a dark liquor or a dark beer. Budweiser and all light beers do not count, for some reason.

Literally anything that's not served with a curly straw, drowned in fruit, or has a name that sounds like a gay bar's mixologist came up with it is manly when a man's drinking it.

Also
>>11188691
>>11188693
>saying gin is faggy while arguing in favour of cognac/brandy
Filthy Frenchman.

>>11188691
>>wine
Good wine, maybe. But the majority of it is shit, especially California Chardonnays and every Malbec ever.

>>11186081
>Are there mixes that are for men?
Mojitos? Screwdrivers? I have no idea

>>11189177
That doesn't make drinking wine faggy. It's just bad wine, no one knows unless they drink the same.

But then drinking even the best Cosmopolitan ever made is still faggy as fuck. There is the difference.

>>11189177
The majority of any type of alcohol is shit apart from obscure or very specific things.

>>11186081
I drink mojito, whiskey sour, or scotch on rocks. Also beer. Idk nor do I care what anyone thinks about whatever I'm drinking.

If you can't enjoy a "girly drink" without feeling like you are undergoing a literal sex change operation then you should be fine.

So many guys treat shit like this like elementary school physics where stepping into the girls washroom would turn you into a girl. Just do what you fucking want, do you think everyone will drop what they're doing and pay attention to you because you're holding a glass with some blue juice that tastes like sex? Let them be jealous, girl drinks are delicious as fuck

>>11186081
Absolut martini is definitely a Chad cocktail

>>11186142
Truth. Although this barrier is still in place in the pubs of England. Where if your friend asks what you're having, saying "a half" will get you "fuck off, you're having a pint"

>>11186095
If it doesn't make you wince a bit, it's feminine homosexual shit.

>>11186081
Just redpill yourself early and realize that drinking isn't manly. It is neutral.
t. 10 year alcoholic

>>11186081
J&B on the rocks

now chekem

>>11187400
>Negroni
that's a soft butch at most

>>11187400
Do you think a Clover Club is manly? It's 1 1/2 oz gin, lemon juice, egg white and 2 dashes grenadine.

>>11188693
vermouth is not a liqueur you faggot

>>11189329
>Just do what you fucking want
Eat shit, fucking libtard.

>tfw Italian
>having any kind of discerning taste when it comes to anything 40%+ is considered manly
>can enjoy any drink without having to engage in some idiotic pissing contest about who can order the worst tasting drink and lie about liking it

With that said, the low attention to drink quality means pretty much no one uses ingredients like gum syrup or egg whites, so even basic whiskey-based drinks end up being wrong 90% of the time.
My favorite ones are the Whiskey Sour and the Old Fashioned, but good luck getting a decent one of either without overpaying.

>>11190765
Being Italien and being manly are mutually exclusive, so of course there are no debates whether anything you do is manly. Nothing is: you're all girly faggots.

>>11190623
Eh, it might not be manly but flat out refusing to drink can distance yourself. I'm not saying that means you need to go out and get tanked every weekend, or at all.

Vodka is a the gay drink of choice because it has the fewest calories.

>>11190815
Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm not saying refuse a drink, I just think it's preferable to not get caught up in the meme in the long run like I did when I was young.

for me it's a girl's pussy juice, the manliest drink

>>11190953
eating pussy used to be considered the least manly thing a man could do with a woman

>>11186081
Some retard men seem to think so, but drinking something to prove how manly you are is like buying a nice car because you have a small dick.
Men don't have to constantly go around showing what men they are, the way women do. That's why companies are so successful at taking products and just making them pink and adding the phrase "for women" and charging like 30% more for it. Women are the retards who go for shit like that. And yes, a few retarded men.

>>11191023
what about pegging?

>>11190934
>I just think it's preferable to not get caught up in the meme
As someone currently caught up in the meme, yeah, I know where you're coming from. I'm on my way out at least. Doesn't help that I'm suffering from a few injuries at the moment, I find having a exercise routine helps me keep everything in check.

>>11191096
Pegging is a hard one to place for me. A lot of guys around here seem to go directly to man being penetrated by female, dominated by female, but skip over the fact that shes being put in to an awkward position for the guys pleasure

>>11191023
does anybody really eat pussy or is this just one of those joke sex acts like a "dirty sanchez" or whatever

>>11191023
By the Romans who were notoriously massive faggots even in their day the Greeks made fun of them for it and Greeks are obsessed with anal it was considered unmanly by a culture tyst thought trur love was a 40 year old man pozzing a 5 year old boipuss

>>11191106
>shes being put in to an awkward position for the guys pleasure
welcome to the world of heterosexual sex. it's awesome, even when the woman is dominating you it's really just you low key telling her what to do

>>11186142
Corona and Fireball doesn't count as beer and whiskey.

>>11187908
this

>>11188011
E X A C T L Y

Manhattan

>>11186081
Just fucking order what you want, provided it's in a place that caters to the sort of drink you want. A martini isn't girly in and of itself, but you're probably going to be disappointed or send a bad vibe to others if you order one in a biker bar that pretty much serves cheap beer and whiskey.

>>11189101
Dark beers are usually sweeter, which isn't necessarily manly at all.

>>11190714
Fragile boy, tsk tsk tsk

>caring about what people see you drink

>>11188085
>Steel Reserve Alloy
Not the gayest drink you could choose. But definitely a bit bi.

>>11187443
Hard cider in my part of the world (central US) has long been considered a girl drink by everyone I knew. I laughed at those Smith and Forge commericals that were "super manly", because it has as much sugar as soda, while only being as alcoholic as your average ale.

At least London dry ciders are tart, only have like 10 grams of sugar or so, and a pretty gender neutral drink over the pond. But we have very few good ones over here.

>>11188693
Idk why, but we used to make fun of the exaggeratedly long Galliano bottles as being gay and phallic.

>>11188078
How? The cherry?

>>11191647
This, the "manly" beers are only the biggest name lagers like bud lite (not bud lite lime though, only fruits want fruit), with some exceptions like guiness. Craft beers or any that are perceived as too fancy are for sissies (which is half right because hipster IPAs are a dime a dozen)

>>11188085
>Be me
>Be me wanting some Steel Reserve
>tfw mom was being weak, and I had to beg my sister for a Steel Reserve
Whatchu all know about that? Probably nothing.

>>11186081
>Caring about what others think

>>11186081
non-light beer, and straight brown liquor
>Are there mixes that are for men
brown liquor plus bitters

>>11191726
the fuck men drink Bud Light? surely their market is mostly women

>>11191726
Only flyovers hate on craft beer. None of the working class in new york would care if you had a founders stout.

>>11191940
Clearly you've never been to any sports game

>>11191665
American hard ciders are soda tier. Like angry orchard thats just too damn sweet

>>11191945
None of the stadiums near me sell Bud Light

Manly drinks are expensive.

Man drinks are whatever you want because secure men do not give a single fuck.

Definitely not coffee

>>11187427
Literally 100% of the people who order these are women and faggots.

Source: have tended bar for 10 years

>>11191974

>posts a cat
Lol sure thing onionboy

>>11186081
Drink what the fuck you want, and what tastes good to you. Don't be a fragile ego'd fuck.

>>11186081
radical feminists may have started and immediately ruined the term "toxic masculinity" but not ordering a drink because you think some dipshit yokel will call you a girl sound p gay

>>11186081
gin whiskey non mixed drinks in general

>>11187427
Isn’t that basically just 6oz of cold vodka with a couple drops of vermouth?

>>11186081
>mixes for men
Scotch, ice, glass
Scotch, glass
Whisky, Glass

>>11186096
>I'm beer 74 of the weekend
fuck man how you doing i aint seen you since last weekend hey sorry I threw you up man i guess my body still wants me to live but don't worry we'll get that fucker next week

>>11191990
Shaken is also the absolute worst way to get it idk why Bond fucks it up all the time

>>11191968
Mmm, looks like sewage.

>>11187464
This was a genius stroke of marketing. I was in high school when they went with that slogan and girls were buying them by the truckload in "protest".

>>11189681
What the hell is "a half"?

>>11186081
fuck off alcoholics. alcohol is poison. sage

>>11193105
A half pint.

>>11193115

>>11186081
No. Any given asshole will will question your sexuality over not liking exactly what they like and nothing else. Just try new things and decide what you like.

Then call people girls if the disagree.

>>11186087
>Everything else is by definition homosexual

>he's never had a good old fashioned
>he wouldn't enjoy a manhattan either
>he doesn't like any kind of mule
>he can't enjoy a gin or vodka martini with blue cheese olives
What's it like being an insecure tastelet?

>>11186081
Yeah its called learning to make it yourself and having your own home bar + making your own beer and wine

Anything I like is manly, anything I don't like isn't.
Simple.

Also I happen to not like large amounts of sugar or fruit, and I happen to like middle to large %abv

Is it full of sugar?
It's a chick drink.

That's all there is to it.
Same applies to sugar-based "coffee" beverages like starbucks.

>>11187354
No, it's for queers now

if its served in a coupe it's faggy as fuck.
You might as well introduce yourself as a bitch boy looking for fag hags to watch sex in the city with.

>>11187530
>As would a gimlet

Except a Gimlet is a manly drink, or haven't you read Raymond Chandler?

>>11194621
Boomer! get out!!!

>>11186081
If you don't know what to get, just get a rum and coke and stop bitching at us.

scotch neat, maybe with rocks if I'm ordering some budget stuff

>>11187427

James Bond only used Polish vodka in his martinis, as the Poles invented vodka, they were anti-communist and the Vesper Lynd character was based on Polish WWII secret agent Krystyna Skarbek.

>>11194667
Nowhere in any of the bond novels is a specific brand of vodka mentioned in the ingredients for his martini.
Not once.

>>11186081
anything that taste like shit
because getting over how awful something is until you trick yourself into liking it is ver macho

Manliness isn't about what the cocktail is. Its how you order it. You can order yourself anything from a boilermaker to a cosmopolitan, and if you order it with confidence, you're manly. Literally, all there is to it.

>>11194870
>Manliness is how well you take a cock up your ass as long as you don't grimace, it's manly. That's all there is to it.

>>11188354
Bloody marys, done right, are a beast of a drink and will put hair on your nipples. I can think of no less manly drink except whiskey from the bottle after hauling the cork out with your teeth and spitting it casually over the bar.

>>11188790
Rum and ginger. Eather dark and stormy, or a Caribbean mule. Ice and lime. Done. Tasty and refreshing, gets you battered. I like a nice goslings black seal and its not expensive .

>>11194686
Cocktail historians have said that the most common vodka back then was a 100 proof rye vodka though.

>>11194879
>trying so hard to form a correlation between gay sex and adding a couple pinches of sugar to an alcoholic drink
i bet youre the type of dude who would hold his cig with the thumb and index finger because its the only "manly" way to hold a cig lmao

>>11187371
Pepperoni pizza is delicious and fuck anyone who says otherwise. Oh i need artisan tomatoes and goat cheese. Fuck you, eat my dick.

>>11192120
And you give a shit about being -seen- to drink something. Way to be a faggot.

I like gin and tonic

>>11191968
>That price
>That reaction
Pretty much what I was thinking. Its a bunch of expensive alcohol that should probably stand alone/be used in simpler drinks to actually appreciate, all mixed together

>>11194686
>Nowhere in any of the bond novels is a specific brand of vodka mentioned in the ingredients for his martini.

It wasn’t mentioned in the Bond novels, it was comments from Ian Fleming.

>>11194127
>Also I happen to not like large amounts of sugar
This is my biggest issue with modern cocktails

>>11188366
> But girly drinks is two words
By Allah he's right!

>>11187427
Fuck James Bond. Shaking your martini is straight retarded. You always stir it, gently, and let the ice melt a little before you pour.
Also, habanero stuffed olives are a good garnish alternative.

>>11188085
Whats with this flavored shit? Steel reserve is already easy to drink, do the added 500 calories worth of high fructose corn syrup make it even better?

>>11186081
>whiskey
>cubes
b00m