/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11142131
When done well, they're god tier.

Alas, a lot of the time they suck ass. Overcooked shitty beef with no sear. Fucking bisto gravy or some similar shit out of a packet. Canned veg, etc.

>>11142131
>>11142210
We have shit like this in 'murica too, it's ok at best, most of the time it's depressing and gross

It's not like "hangover brunch at l'express" is any less cancerous, but at least you can get a vegetable that didn't come out of a can without being driven out of town by the pitchfork mob on suspicion of being a muslim sympathizer

>>11142131

Where's the mash potatoes?!

English cuisine is only disrespected because of its simplicity in the face of French led gentrification of preparing and eating fucking food.
>There are people reading this who think that the way food is presented matters

>>11142131

Tejano here. Reminds me of being a child and going to my grandmother's house with my parents and uncles every Sunday.

It was always a roast without fail. Nothing fancy, just slow cooker fare, but it is definitely nostalgic.

Looks like shit but the English breakfast is a pretty good combination.

>>11142131
>Roast
>it's Baked

>>11142273
It does matter, slop-slinger. Go inhale a plate full of hash covered in canned cheese sauce.

>Boiled vegetables
>Probably Bisto
Love a Sunday roast but whenever I see them on this board it's always the sad, anemic Tesco roast of pussified post-war Britain when we all got jewed out of actually making use of animal fats and dripping.

>>11142639
If you inhale a plate full of hash you will be TOO HIGH

>>11142258
I prefer roast over mash myself

>>11142131
I only recall one Sunday roast I did not enjoy.
Fucktards who were invited over (friends of my wife whom I had never met) decided to show up 2 hours late and it didn't keep well, as I wanted to serve it semi-hot at least.
I have never met them again. I have no doubt it is because the Sunday roast was so fucking bad.
They seemed like shallow fucks anyway.
I mean sure, turn up two hours late to a party but not to a fucking Sunday lunch ffs.

>>11142258
roast > mash
mash only exists to suck up gravy and you have Yorkshires for that

Sunday roasts are massively overrated. I hate those fuckers and never plan to eat one again.

>le rosbif

>>11142765
>post-war Britain
I think this is probably true because when they describe roast beef (generally referred to as a "joint") in victorian and edwardian literature it sounds delicious cooked with bone in. Yet when you see it now, it looks like the lifeless, grey, dry molded and formed american grocery deli roast beef.

>>11142131
>buying your sunday roast
home cooked or nothing. buying it always turns out grey and disappointing

>>11143917
cringe

>>11142131
It can be great. It's kinda a shame that the dishes seen as most English now are just a pile of separate ingredients though, forgetting that we practically took over the world for herbs and spices. Maybe trends will swing back to the more interesting and unique combinations that used to be popular.

People poop on British cuisine because, aside from the truly batshit stuff that might have been eaten by nobility in the middle ages when they were stuffing literally fucking anything into pies like peacock tongue and beavers, it's cuisine has generally always been very basic and rustic with an emphasis on simply prepared core ingredients. In many ways this is similar to early Italian cuisine - in fact Bangers and Mash was around as early as 410 AD (sans the potato of course) probably thanks to Roman occupation and the confluence of the two cultures cuisine. Worcestershire Sauce is another modern descendant of this occupation, being an ancestor of the ubiquitous Roman Garum.

I digress though. British cuisine gets a bad rap through a combination of the natural decline modernity and convenience culture has on food culture, two world wars, and an alltogether more limited selection of ingredients (until they became a global naval super power in the 18th century and started stealing everyone's spices). A lot of it is some variation of a roast or sausage or fish, cooked along with vegetable, often served in or alongside a pastry crust of some kind. But while the cuisine is simple, if you look at the ingredients it's quite good. British grains, wild game, poultry, fish, cheeses - are all good.

All England lacks is a good GIMMICK. Some food it's known for above all others. Even it's national dish, Chicken Tikka Masala, gets associated with Indian cuisine (even though it was invented in England in 1900). English cheddar? Good, but you're probably not putting it up against the Italians and how fuck shit insane they are about their cheese. And you can hardly count fucking pies, pasties, popovers and pastries together as uniquely British.

No, if I wanted to select something uniquely British, being done in Britain better than anywhere else, endemic to a specific region of England?

Kippers, from the Isle of Man.

>>11144372
What the FUCK is a Kipper?

>The English philologist and ethnographer Walter William Skeat derives the word from the Old English kippian, to spawn. The word has various possible parallels, such as Icelandic kippa which means "to pull, snatch" and the Germanic word kippen which means "to tilt, to incline". Similarly, the Middle English kipe denotes a basket used to catch fish. Another theory traces the word kipper to the kip, or small beak, that male salmon develop during the breeding season. As a verb, kippering ("to kipper") means to preserve by rubbing with salt or other spices before drying in the open air or in smoke. Originally applied to the preservation of surplus fish (particularly those known as "kips," harvested during spawning runs), kippering has come to mean the preservation of any fish, poultry, beef or other meat in like manner. The process is usually enhanced by cleaning, filleting, butterflying or slicing the food to expose maximum surface area to the drying and preservative agents.

Scotland and the Isle of Man are some of the last places in the world where this old and ubiquitous method of preserving fish is practiced traditionally. See, since WW1, most Kippers are dyed red to make the smoking process less intensive and faster. Traditionally, the fish is cold smoked for a very long amount of time to give it that characteristic red hue that earned it the name "Red Herring", a term dating back to the 13th century.

Brit here
I love me some Fish n' Chips every now and then

>>11144372
Good post, love a kipper. It's hard to think of other things that are particularly British, maybe brown ales and clotted cream?

>>11142131
No we can't. Just look at the microwave tv dinner you posted.
>potatoes + oil + oven
>boil plain veggies in water
>fuckin ovened plain batter
>bisto instant gravy

It's fucking embarrassing. This is what the your retarded grandma would cook everybody while still being subconsciously tethered to her ptsd from WW2 famine. Learn to home make a good stuffing and gravy and shit then post that instead you fucking neo-German.

>>11144372
>Bangers and Mash was around as early as 410 AD (sans the potato of course)
So just bangers?
>Worcestershure sauce
>ancestor of garum
It's the other way around
>bad rap
>rap

>Isle of Man
>England
Man you're just talking out of your ass

>>11144026
t. incel

Ulster Fry > Full English Breakfast

Ulster food is the bomb

>>11142131
What are those circles on top?
Looks good. Fairly standard meal in the US as well. I used to hate this kind of slightly bland comfort food, but I love it now.

>>11144287
I had French fries cooked in duck fat at a nice restaurant and it was one of the best things I ever ate.
The burger was good too; it had a duck eggs and foraged mushrooms on top.

>>11145303
Yorkshire puddings, basically like popovers.

>>11144395
So the red in modern kippered herring is a red herring most of the time?

>>11142131
British cuisine is the best in the world.

>>11144372
>in fact Bangers and Mash was around as early as 410 AD (sans the potato of course)
so you mean sausages

>>11142273
>English cuisine is only disrespected because of its...
....lack of imagination.

Look at the Cornish pasty as an example. Just shove some raw meat and veggies in a puff pastry with salt and pepper. How about maybe SEAR the meat, or maybe use something different, and add real spices and other veggies? NO fucking imagination, and if you try to change anything, some fat, pasty bong will cry that it's not a "proper pasty!"

The bottom line is that anybody living in the U.K. that had any talent and ability left for better places in the world, leaving behind the dregs and their inbred "aristocracy" to lord over them.

Sad, really.

>>11145374
>I only know about the traditional cornish pasty, therefore there are no other varieties of cornish pasty
The ignorant American strikes again.

>>11145530
>thinks a Cornish pasty is a Cornish pasty if it's made outside of the "official" recipe
You don't even know your own nation, Pajeet.

>>11145603
You can't complain that nobody has any imagination and that people whine about it not being "proper" and then bitch about examples of people trying something different not being proper. The corn syrup has gotten to your brain, Bubba.

>>11145326
exactly where the term comes from
people who had never seen herrings before assumed they were red, but it was just due to the kippering process

>>11142131
If it's done right with proper stock for the gravy and vegetables that aren't soggy, it can be amazing.

>>11145374
Cornish pasties are fucking delicious and would not be improved by presearing. It’s not imaginative to just treat meat the same way for everything. Don’t see you shitting on Chinese dumplings either

>>11145632
see>>11146074

>>11142131
roast beef is and always will be an abomination

>>11146198
What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

>>11145530
Those are pasties. Cornish pasties have PGI status. You can argue about whether or not that's a good thing, but you should see what absolute rubbish passes for a Cornish pasty in Australia.

>>11145374
If they were from a cuisine that you are taught to admire like French you'd praise their restraint. They are the way they are for a good reason. The meat and vegetables steam and stew together, the swede flavours the meat and potato, the meat flavours the vegetables.

>>11144455
>Isle of man
>not England
The Kingdoms united now Celt, you can thank King Arthur and Margaret Thatcher.

>>11147213
It's not part of england though you retard, it's a self-governing dependency of the uk.

>>11147181
>Those are pasties. Cornish pasties have PGI status.
The point was that people have tried doing something different with pasties for a long time, in direct refutation of anon's claim that we're too scared or unimaginative to deviate from the traditional cornish pasty.

The english breakfast is something special. I've never actually had it in england but i've had in other countries that had it catering to european tourists. I wish we had it burgerland

>>11145530
the lamb, peppered steak, as well as chicken, and mushroom all sound delicious

>>11142210
someone that can't take roast drippings and set them aside and put a little flour and butter/oil in a pan and make a nice gravy does not need to be cooking me any kind of fucking roast.

>>11142131
next time i make a nice chuck roast, i'm going to have peas and roast carrots with it, just because i like that picture so much.

>>11142807

Is there such a thing? I remember one time I was so high I couldn't figure out how to cover myself with a blanket. Another time I had the munchies but only had Cheez-Its and chocolate milk. Not a winning combination I have to admit in hindsight.

>>11142131
Wtf is those things in the middle? Are they bones with hollow marrow or pig ears or something? Absolutely disgusting, brits truly are subhuman.

>>11144455
Whoa would anyone check out those digits

>>11148511
they're batter poured into cupcake tins half filled with heated oil/beef dripping

no meat just gravy sponges

>>11148511
They're just popovers.

As an American looking in from the outside, people seem to hate British food because it is homey and unpretentious. The meals themselves are not particularly complicated or potentially offensive, and they generally consist of staple ingredients long established in the western world and its various cuisines. Thus, a lot of food snobs turn their noses up to it.
I find British food (as well as British pub culture) to be comfy as fuck, and a quality Sunday roast is god-tier.

>lamb
>Pork
>beef
>chicken
Which is the best of the 4 for a roast?
Personally learn towards pork due to the crackling that it gets.

Love a beef roast. Sometimes we even have them on a Tuesday!

>>11149159
Beef is standard for me since that's what nearly everyone did when I was growing up in England. I love all of them, but Beef is "the" standard for a Sunday Roast IMHO.

I love nice roast pork with crackling, but I see that as more of a Danish thing than an English one.

>>11149159
I'd agree, but only just, it's difficult to decide. Pork with good crackling is hard to beat, especially value wise, but then slow roast lamb shoulder can have even more juice and flavour. Sirloin with a solid fat cap is great, but can be expensive, and when roast chicken is done right it stands up to the others.

>>11147999
oh sure, just like Hong Kong "isn't" a part of China and Puerto Rico "isn't" a part of America ;)

Isle of Man more like isle of bitchboy lmao

>>11144427
All I can think of when someone says British Cuisine is a canned meat pie.

>>11149159
Aside from being a retard and saying "chicken", it's just a matter of preference. For me, it's beef.

>>11144450
>Pretending Brits can season foods.
>Pretending anyone but the French can make a good sauce.
>Topkek

>>11150852
go sniff your own farts, frogboy

>>11142131
"The Englishmen understand almost better than any other people the art of properly roasting a joint [of beef], which also is not to be wondered at; because the art of cooking as practiced by most Englishmen does not extend much beyond roast beef and plum pudding."
-Pehr Kalm, Swedish-Finnish explorer and botanist, 1748

1748

>>11148511
That's yorkshire pudding. Come on. You should have a bare minimum knowledge of cooking (and have graduated high school) before you post here

Yorkshire pudding is the food of the gods. Other culinary cultures can't compete.

>>11151171
>finns and swedes, the ultimate cuisine arbiters, praise english food
topfuckingkek!

>>11151171
>scandinavians talking shit
lmao go eat some more rotten fish

>>11145296
>Ulster food is the bomb

shut up irish cunt

>>11142258
It's called a roast dinner not a mash dinner

>>11142273
The only people that care about pasties being 'proper' in the U.K are the cornish.
And they aren't to be trusted, the further west you go in England people get fucking weird

>>11149168
>being unemployed

>>11144372
It's nice seeing the Isle of Man getting a bit of recommendation but m8 don't call us a region of England!

Kippers are nice although they tend to whiff out the house a bit when you cook them. A hot Manx crab bap is also fucking delicious and I recommend it thoroughly.

We have (had) some truly amazing ice cream too for the longest time as a law stated that ice cream sold on the Isle of Man had to contain specific ingredients and not contain others. So much so that it was changed as other companies were complaining it was a barrier to free trade (trade in the shitty stuff that passes for ice cream nowadays!).

> people literally thinking that meat and potatoes is underrated

>>11151530
But you can put onions carrots and celery in the broth to make it extra faggoty.

>>11151530
meat and potatoes is underrated
everyone is too preoccupied with "omg more spices more sauce more unnecessary bullshit" to just appreciate a simple meal of roasted meat and vegetables for the humble, filling comfort food that it is

>>11142131

That looks pretty good. What's that gloop at the top of the picture?

>>11145316

I've heard that goose fat is about the best thing to use for cooking, especially with potatoes.

I've yet to see it in the stores, though.

How can I get a homemade Sunday roast in Scotland? I’ll be staying there for a few weeks.

>>11153702
Don't you own an oven? It's not different from a normal roast.

>>11145374
>muh sear
Not everything needs to be seared you pillock.

>>11153696
Looks like cauliflower cheese to me

>>11153717
It's not hard to learn how to sear. Just learn how to sear, and then you will be cooking better.

>>11151510
>hot Manx crab bap
A more English phrase has rarely been spoken

>>11145374
t. self-hating guardian poster

>>11153768
nope, just a thick seppo

>>11153700
Where do you live? You might be able to get a vegetable shortening like Trex, which gets you the crispness, though obviously not the same flavour.

>>11153702
You'll probably see a few places offering it, just ask someone old and local which one's the best. Or befriend a family.

>>11153755
>Manx
>English
Retard.

>>11154600
>Manx
Charlie Manx?
Has anyone really that comic book? Wraith? Its super weird.

FUCK IRISH PEOPLE