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Take an Uber or Lyft to a bar. Problem solved

>>11143042
>just spend an extra $30 every time you want to drink

OP, this is a common problem. Most people solve it by drinking at home. I wish it was different and I walk to a friendly bar, but here we are

>>11143028
Become a man of culture, and drink alone in your apartment while sitting on the floor crying because things didn't turn out the way you thought they would

>>11143028
>left Iowa for shitty big city
you deserve to suffer

>>11143093
That's not very nice lad

>>11143028
IC?

>>11143288
Des Moines.

Iowa City is a fun city too though.

>>11143028
Do you have friends? If so just drink at home.

>>11143028
what suburb? bloomington and lower is shit for nightlife

>>11143327
Edina.

>>11143329
Oh gross. Sorry man that’s just how zoning works out there. Suburbs suck dick

>>11143329
don’t know what to tell you, man
hopefully you can get out of there soon

>>11143028
get a cheap beater bicycle off craigslist
cruising home from a bar feels good man
>>>/n/bbg/

come here and post your height and i'll make you some recs

>>11143066
This. Either drink at home with friends over Discord/Skype, invite friends over to drink at yours or just move to somewhere with better bars.

>going to bars
Fuck off normalfag

wtf is a dive bar ? there is a pool you can swim into ? it's like a permanent pool party ? why do americans need that shit like its necessary for survival lmao

>>11143898
Google it Eurotrash

>>11143550
gets a dui when riding pedal bike home from the bar

>>11143329
Go to the Galleria and hang out with "speak to the manager" ladies drinking glamorous cocktails such as the Cosmo, Sex on the Beach, and the latest arrival, the "mojito" which is basically like a daiquiri, but with strawberries and mint (I think it's Mexican).

You can also choose from a fashionable selection of the latest wines like Rombauer, La Crema, and the new Australian Yellow Tail "shiraz" (if you think you don't like wine, try a shiraz, you might be surprised!).

There's also the bar at the Mexican joint in Southdale, they have the tequila, a fashionable new Mexican liquor that has taken the foodie scene by storm as of late (warning, you WILL go crazy if you have too many shots).

Lastly, for the jet set, you can find both P.F. Chang's *and* Cheesecake Factory on the other side of the Southdale complex. Careful, some of their food is rather ... I don't mean to be racist, but "intensely flavored".

Anyway, the midwest is way more cultured than coasties like to pretend, you just need to know where to look.

>>11143028
Drinking at home is the best. No stupid fucking music, no sports talk, no negroes unless I open my blinds, all my own youtube searches

>>11143028
Ames?

I live here and there's two breweries and a shit load of bars within walking distance

>>11143832
>drinking with others
Haha! No.

>>11143863
This.

Imagine having to live in the south

>>11143028
Just drink at home like a responsible adult.

>>11146316
Honestly, what difference does it make when you're driving to and from the bar either way?

I can't imagine living in a place where you can't just take the train or walk after getting sloshed.

I realize there are technically sidewalks in some parts of flyover country but the default assumption is that if you're on foot, you're either in some kind of distress, or a criminal, possibly both.

I would seriously kill myself if I had to live like that.

>>11146344
>Honestly, what difference does it make when you're driving to and from the bar either way
Ubering a short distance is cheaper than ubering a long distance
Drunk driving a short distance is safer than drunk driving a long distance
>I can't imagine living in a place where you can't just take the train or walk after getting sloshed.
Thats what the suburbs are. Its how most white Americans live every day
> the default assumption is that if you're on foot, you're either in some kind of distress, or a criminal, possibly both
um, no, the assumption would probably be you are doing it specifically for exercise. No one ever expects to see a criminal in the suburbs

>>11146373
>Drunk driving a short distance is safer than drunk driving a long distance
The fact that you think that's a completely normal, reasonable argument to make for driving drunk is batshit crazy
>Its how most white Americans live every day
And how most black Americans. And how most Hispanic Americans. You seem to have this weird, 1970s-era view of urban life, where it's all black people and burning overturned automobiles.
>um, no, the assumption would probably be you are doing it specifically for exercise.
Right. At night, dressed in non-exercise clothes, possibly carrying a backpack or a gym bag or whatever else you had with you when you went to the bar. In your head, does that make sense?
>No one ever expects to see a criminal in the suburbs
No one expects to see a pedestrian, period. Obviously, if they do see one, questions are immediately raised, see >>11146344

>>11146393
>The fact that you think that's a completely normal,
Who said anything about it being normal or being "OK"?

>>And how most black Americans. And how most Hispanic Americans
Statistically they are more likely to be in the city.

>>Right. At night, dressed in non-exercise clothes, possibly carrying a backpack or a gym bag or whatever else you had with you when you went to the bar. In your head, does that make sense?
The statement was walking in general, not specifically in the context of a bar.

>>No one expects to see a pedestrian, period.
At least you got one right.

A silver star for anon here.

>>11146393
I am not advocating drunk driving at all, but it sure as fuck is better to do it for a small distance than a long one

Most black Americans live in highly urban neighborhoods, not the suburbs. The geographic distributions of these populations are wildly different
>1970s-era view of urban life, where it's all black people and burning overturned automobiles
I didn't say that at all. I live in an extremely walkable urban neighborhood, but I also grew up in the suburbs so I have some level of understanding of both

Sidewalks aren't busy in the suburbs because walking places for transportation isn't as viable and because there are so many fewer residents per street length, but the idea that there would be some nefarious assumptions is just nonsense. People still walk to their neighbors, and walk dogs, and walk for exercise all the time, just because the sidewalks aren't as busy as in heavily urban areas doesn't mean people don't see any walkers. Why would a supposed criminal be walking instead of driving in the suburbs anyways? That makes no sense where would a criminal be walking ot or from in the suburbs? If anything a non-local, like a criminal, would be considerably less likely to be walking than a benign local

>>11146416
The conversation was about walking home from a bar, do try to keep up.
>>11146436
I understand that Wisconsin has some weird fixation on the deep south and I guess your main claim to fame is "we don't have black people", but there are other nonwhite population groups besides escaped slaves, and reverse white flight has been in full swing for quite some time now. There are Indian suburbs, Chinese suburbs, Korean suburbs, Mexican suburbs, and so on.

At any rate, ask your buddies across the river about the Larnie Thomas case, your perspective on being a pedestrian in the 'burbs is clearly from a white point of view.

>>11143028
An uber is cheap af compared to the price of getting actually drunk when you go out.

>>11143066
It would never cost 30. Stop being a whiner.

>>11146456
>your perspective on being a pedestrian in the 'burbs is clearly from a white point of view
yeah, If you had specifically stated a non-white pedestrian in the suburbs you surely could have placed some racist motives on the observers but that is definitely not what was being said. This is really some absurd backtracking to say you were actually only talking about people that obviously look like they are not from the area

>There are Indian suburbs, Chinese suburbs, Korean suburbs, Mexican suburbs, and so on
What does this have to do with anything. You are the one whining about flyover and suburbs, so the conversation was focused on areas typical of that, the fact that different things exist in some places to a small extent is just a random non-sequitur
>I understand that Wisconsin has some weird fixation on the deep south and I guess your main claim to fame is "we don't have black people"
Wisconsin has black people, and the original subject Minnesota does too, but these areas take the geographic isolation typical of all of America outside the south and take it to a much greater degree. An overwhelming percent of the black populations of northern states live in highly concentrated urban neighborhoods. I don't know what any of this has to do with a fixation on the deep south.

>>11146497
>if you had explicitly brought up the fact that different races exist
Yes, it's clearly quite "absurd" for you to imagine that in places that aren't suburban dystopias, we take it for granted that we can WALK HOME FROM A BAR, regardless of our skin color, without having to justify our existence to police officers if we're coming from, transiting, or going to the "wrong" neighborhood.

>>11146497
Face it. He blew you the fuck out.

>>11146513
If you are walking home from the bar in the suburbs in flyover there is a 95%+ chance you are white, and if you are not there is a pretty good chance the locals know who you are. This is only really a risk if you are a non-local black person which was pretty clearly not the situation anyone was discussing until your first arguments fell flat and you had to change the subject

>>11143042
>>11143066
Or go to a place which provides a courtesy doorstop bus service in the local area. Just a thought.

>>11146513
have you ever been to a suburb? You barely ever even see cops doing anything besides running traffic radar

>>11143028
Hey OP,
South Minneapolis bro here.
I moved here from Milwaukee where there were 5 bars located within 1 block of my house.

the "drinking" scene here does suck. I can tell you, though, there are dive bars located within 5 miles of edina, however they're not really that good.

Sorry you don't like it here. It's not a great place to be a social drunk.. I don't really drink anyway tho so whatever.

>>11146519
if bringing up a bunch of non-sequiturs and constantly trying to change the scope of the discussion is "blowing out"

>>11146532
I like how you went from "no that doesn't happen" to "well, that's different, it probably should in that case".

If you didn't have your head up your ass I'd try and explain that this is literally what people mean by "white privilege", but I'm pretty sure you don't think that actually exists either (or if it did, it should).

>>11146535
Yes. I lived in several, Edina being one of them. It was really fun being questioned by police officers and store employees on a regular basis, as though my presence in white people land was a curiosity at best, or in some cases a possible emergency that needed solving.

>>11146548
>I like how you went from "no that doesn't happen"
No, I said that isn't what we are talking about and is a different unrelated concept. It doesn't apply to what we were talking about at all and you awkwardly tried to shoehorn it in

>>11146544
Sure. He blew you the fuck out.

>>11146554
if you just carry yourself like an educated person no one gives you shit

>>11146557
What we are talking about is walking home from a bar, in peace, unmolested by law enforcement officers.

Apparently in your head there's an unstated "while white" shoehorned into every single life experience, and if someone suggests otherwise that's "totally different, awkwardly changing the subject"

>>11146566
I have a pretty good idea of what you're implying, and no, that's bullshit. First of all Zuckerberg doen't get shit for "dressing like a thug" despite his sneakers and hoodies. Second, I mostly wore button-front shirts, tucked in, with a belt, because I'm a nerd, and always have been, even before "nerd" was something that jocks did to be cool. Lastly, news flash: you're a racist.

>>11143081
Turns out I've got culture coming out the wazoo.

>>11146574
>there's an unstated "while white"
if we are talking about walking home from the bar to your home in the suburbs in flyover, that is the default scenario. You cannot just respond to that with your super specific anecdotal exception, and then act like that applies to the situation in general. I think the situations you are describing are unfortunate, but that doesn't make them relevant to the discussion just because they also have to do with people walking.

You straight up said without any qualification that people in the suburbs will assume a walking person is a criminal or in distress. That is an absurd statement on its own, it was only several posts later of backtracking that you qualified the statement to be about the tiny subset of the initial case in which its a person who looks like they are not from the area. Do you not see how this is a dumb tactic?

>>11146605
>it's irrelevant because it doesn't affect me
Yes, I picked that up from your first few attempts at downplaying reality. Clearly, if someone doesn't agree, then they must be stupid, right?

>>11146580
>First of all Zuckerberg doen't get shit for "dressing like a thug" despite his sneakers and hoodies
I am not saying white privilege does not exist, but that does not change the fact that you can easily use it to your advantage by just dressing and talking like a normal adult. If Zuckerburg looked like a white trash methhead he would similarly not be trusted by normal society. People do not trust poor people

>>11146272
I don't know if this is pasta but I enjoyed it very much thank you

>>11146616
If you try and apply your very specific exception to a general situation and seriously think it makes for a useful argument, that is dumb. It has nothing to do with agreeing, its your inability to follow basic logic.

You stated that the OP would be assumed to be a criminal for walking in the suburbs. This only works with the incredibly improbable assumption that he is a black person who is unfamiliar to the neighborhood. You must realize that this is an absurd assumption giving that we are talking about a guy who lives in the suburban upper midwest and posts on 4chan. The portion of such situations where your anecdote is relevant must be far below 1% and therefore not relevant to this discussion. It is of course a real issue, that deserves attention in some form, but it just has nothing to do with what we are talking about

>>11146623
What kinds of clothes are you picturing when you say "normal adult"?

As I already explained to you, I dressed like a socially awkward nerd when I was living in those areas. Brooks Bros shirts, chinos or cords, ugly black leather shoes (Rockports, Mephistos, or equivalent). Not really a "normal adult" by any means, but hey, I was in my late teens and early 20s. I didn't own my first hoodie until I was in my 30s. I didn't own jeans until a few years ago. As I type this, I am wearing the only shorts I have owned in the last 20 years.

As a white man, what kinds of clothes should non-white men wear, in order to avoid harassment and gunfire from law enforcement?

>>11146393
What are you so fucking mad about?

>>11146651
>You stated that the OP
I never said a word about the op, and the only reason any of this seems "absurd" is that you're not used to talking to people who experience stuff like this, and you believe that to whatever extent they might, they probably deserve it for looking like "thugs".

>>11146654
So you dressed like a nerd and everyone still assumed you were a criminal just for walking? Seems unlikely. Maybe you aren't particularly good at reading other people's motives and feelings and are projecting your assumptions of how you expect them to react to your non-whiteness onto then

>>11146272
I've been to the Galleria and it's not that great of a mall. Allen Edmonds is the only store in there that I would go to more than once a year. If I really need to go to clothes shopping it's either online, Brooks Brothers downtown, or Nordstrom at the MOA. I go to a lot of estate sales and thrift shops and try to buy as much clothing used as possible.

Since I work in the area I've been to PF Chang's, Rojo (that's the Mexican place), and the Buffalo Wild Wings at Southdale. I've also been to Pittsburgh Blue and Crave at the Galleria. Both are overpriced and nothing special.

If you're looking for good food in the area, JK's Table has the best bahn mi and sushi in the south suburbs. It's one of the few Asian places that can do foods from more than one cuisine right. It's just a lunch cafe that's mostly frequented by people from the DQ headquarters, but it's excellent. Better sushi than Nakamori which is generally considered the best sushi place in the area.

The best restaurant in the area is Cadao Express. It's a little Vietnamese place in a strip mall in Richfield, and they make fantastic pho. Get the special pho with tripe, beef slices, and meatballs.

>>11146539
Which spots besides Sandy's tavern? Sandy's is decent but closes too damn early.

>>11146539
I like the Twin Cities, just not a huge fan of the south metro. I stay here since I work here though.

>>11146668
Maybe it's time you let go of your just world hypothesis. Even small children are smarter than this.

>>11146316

this is some serious midwest cope

>>11146640
I'd be surprised if someone wrote a pasta about eating and drinking in a Minneapolis suburb

>>11146666
>is that you're not used to talking to people who experience stuff like this
because the vast majority of people walking in these areas never experience it

Note your initial comment in this line
>>11146344
You say:
>the default assumption is that if you're on foot, you're either in some kind of distress, or a criminal, possibly both

If you do not qualify this statement by saying you are referring specifically to non-locals that are black, the comment makes absolutely no sense.
If you want a discussion about how racist white people are go ahead and frame it like that, but you didn't. You chose to make a general statement about people walking in the suburbs being automatically assumed to be criminals. Its just a fucking nonsense statement in that context. Then you continue to backtrack over several posts and shift it into a comment about a very specific situation that no one was previously discussing

>>11146681
I am not going to say you were never profiled or whatever, but you were pretty fucking clearly projecting your insecurities onto white people. Not everyone is out to get you, most people don't care about you at all

>>11146456
>The conversation was about walking home from a bar, do try to keep up.
Way to sound like a douche.

>>11146686
it mainly stems from the European populations that settled the areas, and their culture/religion

>>11146701
> you are referring specifically to non-locals that are black
I never said anything about "non-locals that are black". I'm not black. I am very visibly not white either, but I used the news case about the black man because it was known nationwide. I also lived, worked, and paid taxes in the area, by most reasonable accounts, I was a "local".
>>11146706
Pic related
>>11146710
I repaid condescension in kind, sorry you can dish it out but apparently not take it.

>>11146720
If you were a "scary" non-white person in an overwhelmingly white suburb people were probably at least generally aware of you.

Also, trying to put white people's racism against black people and transferring it to other non-whites is very problematic. White populations don't have nearly as strong, and much less negative prejudices toward other populations. Hispanic people can generally straight up pass as white in these areas if they dress like white people and are amongst white people, and no one cares at all about Asian populations in general, probably will assume you are good at math and were adopted by a local white couple.

>>11146738
>As a white man, let me tell what it's like to be you
Thanks bro. We solved racism today.

>>11146763
my position allows me to analyze the problem from a much more reasonable and less emotional position than you apparently

>>11143028
>i want chicken wings and the bar across town has the best
>i don't want to have to talk to anyone or eat in public, but i can't just pick them up because they turn soggy and gross if they're in a takeout container longer than like 2 minutes
help me

>>11146767
Yes, the takeaway here is that if it doesn't affect you, it's not real.

>>11146781
When did I ever say racism is not real? I think its pretty obviously real, but also people who are subject to it are very likely to see it beyond where it exists and become paranoid about it as this guy obviously has

>>11146769
try pretending to be a well adjusted member of society who doesn't have autism. if that doesn't work get the wings as takeout and run as fast as you can into a wall headfirst faggot.

Thanks to /pol/ for turning a thread about bars into a discussion on race relations

Don't live in the suburbs of the Twin Cities, what the fuck are you doing? Move to Uptown like all the yuppies and go to Tilt every day.

>>11146787
>don't dress like this famous tech billionaire, it's perfectly reasonable to assume you're a violent outlaw if you wear the Zuck uniform and have dark skin, instead dress like some unspecified "normal people" that I refuse to define, you should just like, be like me, I dunno, like, look normal, then I bet everything would be fine
>also racism is mostly not even there, especially not all that racist drivel I just told you, that's just your imagination
Mmmmmmmkay

>>11146814
>it's perfectly reasonable to assume you're a violent outlaw
I didn't say that, I said you can often avoid the unwanted and unwarranted assumption by carrying yourself like a normal person

You really must love twisting other people's statements in obviously unintended ways. You can't even make a post without bringing up some strawman that no one was even arguing

>>11146834
It's why I hate niggers. You can't just have a normal conversation with one, it always devolves into "yo man you bein racist right now" when there was no racism. So fine if I'm just automatically racist I guess fuck niggers.

>>11146834
>avoid the unwanted and unwarranted assumption
Which unwanted assumption, if not a criminal one? The assumption that the person is really good at Super Mario Bros 3? The assumption that the person believes that souls are real? The assumption that the person collects orchids?
>carrying yourself like a normal person
Which you then refused to define, thanks for that.
>>11146846
At least this one isn't in denial. Although I am not black, as I believe has already been mentioned.

>>11146858
>Which you then refused to define
Normal is just however people in the area act, speak, and dress. If you want to fit in act like a typical local person. A lot of people are racist in abstract terms especially on the internet but when faced with a person of another race who otherwise seems pretty much like themself they aren't as bad

I am curious though, which non-black population experiences constant assumptions of being a criminal in the suburbs for walking on a sidewalk?

>>11146796
It's kind of hard to talk about the relative pedestrian-friendliness of different areas without getting into what "pedestrian unfriendly" means, and from there it's a short hop to "nigger nigger nigger, you should just restrict your apparel to a set of choices that some white person has not declared "off limits to your kind" and then you too can go home from the bar without being arbitrarily harassed by law enforcement.

Pic related, it's where I live now. Needless to say, pedestrians are not viewed as a sign of some kind of impending danger here, walking home from the bar is the default option.

>>11143028
drink at home
bars are for normies

>>11146880
Probably a fucking dune coon who thinks it's cool to have his wife up in a niqab parading down the street and building Mosques shouting unintelligible nonsense 5 times a day anywhere outside the middle east.

>>11146880
A typical local person drives a car, that was the whole point of the observation.

>moves to the Twin Cities
>doesn't live in the actual cities

doing it wrong

>>11143028
>dive bar
I bet you only like “hole in the wall” restaurants too, huh, Brandon?

>>11146891
Almost all conservative muslims in Minnesota are Somalians. You don't seem like the geography type, so I'll just add that Somalia is a country in Africa and people from Somalia are generally considered black.

>>11146902
This seems like a weird thing to get mad about. What is the acceptable term for them?

>>11146903
I don't really care where they're from, all I care is that they're being deported and no more of them are coming, finally.

>>11146909
It’s just massively overused, in my opinion. Also seems to just be hipster speak for a non-franchise place.

>>11146915
If you're going to get mad about it you have to come up with an alternative. How am I supposed to differentiate between the kind of place that calls itself Cru or The J Bar and the kind of place that calls itself Boozie's or Gunchie's?

>>11146914
That's nice, but we're talking about bars, remember? Bars are places where alcohol is consumed. Alcohol, which is forbidden in Islam. Not something that would really worry a casual Muslim, but someone whose wife is in a full body tent, and praying 5x daily, probably not the demographic that would concern this thread.

But hey don't let me stop you from being cool and brave on this underground hacker website.

>>11143028
I'm not 21 so I must brew all the alcohol I drink

>>11146924
I dunno, maybe like “traditional”, “casual”, “older place”, fuck, just SOMETHING

>>11146941
They're supposed to be dumps, not just old and traditional. AKA dives.

>>11146941
They aren't traditional, though. They're just kind of shitty in a really specific way. There's absolutely nothing wrong with describing a low-rent local bar as a dive.

>>11146941
Non-chain, independent, non-franchise, those are all adequate terms, and I agree with you about "hole in the wall"

"Dive bar" though is a useful term, I guess you could just say "shitty bar" but I can think of a few bars I consider "shitty" that aren't dive bars, whereas "dive bar" represents a very particular kind of shitty.

>>11146950
“Casual” would fit then, don’t you think?

>>11146957
Casual includes franchise bars

>>11146957
That would encompass all bars without a formal dress code.

>>11146948
>describing a low-rent local bar as a dive.
I don't think that's a good description of a dive bar, because Irish bars are basically "low rent local bars" but they are sort of a category of their own. Same goes for the various Dominican and Mexican bars around the city.
>>11146957
Nah, most bars are "casual", a dive has certain prerequisites:
-No good liquor (JW Black is the "nicest" scotch allowed)
-No good beer, preferably mostly canned and bottled, Heineken is the "nicest" allowed
-Cheap. This is important because there are some places serving shitty drinks that are in no way cheap
-Dark, dingy, loud
-In general this is a white people genre, of unspecified white mutt heritage.
-If it has any historical claim to fame, or is notable in any way whatsoever, it is not a dive bar, no matter how well it fits the profile otherwise

dude I live 15 minutes out of st paul and theres 4 bars within a mile of my house, two of them being 2 blocks away, where the fuck are you???

>>11146976
Do they really have to be loud? Depressingly solemn seems more fitting to me.

>>11146980
just saw edina, sorry mane, look into moving over towards oakdale, woodbury, south saint paul, inver grove heights, and eagan.

>>11146992
Or just into the city. It's not that expensive

>>11146998
I guess, I didnt like living in Minneapolis, the night life was great but fuck driving in or out of that city. I was happiest when I lived in Oakdale, close enough to the cities to go out but plenty to do around the area.

>>11147013
I only lived there during college, but I thought the area around West Bank was pretty great, and I've enjoyed myself when I visit my friends in Uptown these days

>>11146883
except that none of that had anything to do with what we were talking about, you are just trying to shoehorn race into random stuff to make people seem racist

>>11146895
a typical local person drives a car most of the time for transportation, but its not like it is weird to see people on the sidewalks at all, its not uncommon at all to see people walking

>>11147072
>random stuff
We were talking about walking, remember? It's not "random stuff", it is in fact the actual topic of conversation
>>11147078
>but its not like it is weird to see people on the sidewalks at all, its not uncommon at all to see people walking
It's uncommon. And it's extra uncommon when one of those people doesn't "look like a regular normal guy", to use your terminology

Sucks to be you, I guess. There are two bars at my corner and I'd guess dozens more within 10 blocks of my house.
Depending on what you consider outside of walking distance,' Ubering/Lyfting there/back could cost you as little as a few dollars extra. Nothing to get too upset about.

>>11143028
You mean to tell me there are people out there who go out to drink?

>>11147093
>And it's extra uncommon when one of those people doesn't "look like a regular normal guy"
I fully agree that that is much less common, but that had nothing to do with the subject which was walking in general, which you insisted would convince people you were a criminal without mention of race

I grew up in nice affluent 95% white suburb, and people never walked as a primary means of transportation, its just not a viable lifestyle. For the most part people only walked if you happened to be particularly close to the destination (which just wasn't often the case since most of the area is residential only), but it wasn't weird or confusing at all to see people on the sidewalk. People just go on walks, its a thing people do, especially with dogs but not exclusively. Also people know their neighbors, its not at all weird to walk to a neighbor's place for a beer or something. Or teenagers walking to babysit neighbor kids, or kids just out and about in general
This concept that people in the suburbs are suspicious of people on the sidewalk in general is 100% nonsense, and its just absurd that you continue to back it. If anything, the incredibly unlikely situation in which there was a criminal around it would be assumed they were driving as why the fuck would a criminal walk all the way to the suburbs, it makes no sense. None of this world you are trying to build makes any sense

>>11147132
How else am I going to get beer from the tap? I'm not going to buy an entire keg of everything I want to try.

>>11147236
growlers

>>11143315
This isnt Facebook nigger

>>11143042
>>11143066
Or maybe just don't drink you fucking addicts

I can understand needing a drug to wake up and get ready to work, who the fuck needs a drug to relax and unwind? If you aren't so tired it comes naturally you aren't working hard enough

>>11143028
I lived next to two pubs. One got shut down 5 years ago after someone was murdered in it. The other was owned by jamaican yardies and was closed down after a massive police raid and they arrested the two owner brothers who were running a £2 million heroin and weed ring out of it.

Now I have to walk ten minutes to the nearest one.

>>11147278
there is a difference between needing something and enjoying something. People do things they like to do all the time for simple enjoyment, not because of necessity

>>11146306
>going to a bar to drink by yourself

>>11146494
>cab prices are the same everywhere in the world
t. retard

>>11146563
>t. autistic teen who uploads «x DESTROYS y in debate»

>>11146566
This is sadly not true.

>>11146202
>gets a dui when riding pedal bike home from the bar
I've ridden through breathaliser stops blind drunk on my bicycle more times than i can count, cops do not give a shit, infact, they appreciate that you're not really endangering anyone but yourself.

>>11146580
>Lastly, news flash: you're a racist.
And there you lost the argument completely. Literally kys retard. You had valid points but dont throw that word around like a kid thinking he knows the intentions of people he dont know. This is why people hate liberals.

>>11148197
Not him but your 'intentions' and your self image are meaningless.

When I was in college a nigger police arrested me for walking back to my apartment instead of driving when I was drunk. Charges ended up getting dismissed but it was a pain in the ass

>>11147429
I drink "alone" at the bar all the time and get to know the bartenders or the regulars. It's nice to go somewhere that you know you can have a conversation instead of drinking at home alone. Maybe grab some food too.

>>11148206
er, what? story?

>>11148203
What? Did you even grasp a word of what I was saying?

>>11148197
I don't feel like reading your gay comment thread, but calling everyone you don't like a liberal is just as retarded as calling everyone a racist.

>>11148264
>you lost the argument completely
>Literally
>[you're right but >muh intentions]
>[you don't know me, kid]
>[>muh liberals]
Is that the jist of it?

>>11148264
You can be a racist, regardless of thinking that you're not, and not intending to be.
Kind of similar to being a cunt.

>>11148257
There isn't much of a story. i was very drunk and didn't want to drive home so i decided to walk the 1/2-1 mile home. I can see my apartment building from where I'm at and blue lights pull up behind me and he asks for my license. He asks what i was doing out and i told the truth because there was no hiding i had been drinking. Handcuffs me and tells me i'm going to jail ( I don't remember exactly how he worded it but that was what he meant) and I start cussing at him so I also get charged with disorderly conduct. Spent the night in jail. Get a lawyer because I don't want anything on my record appear in front of the judge and the charges are dropped.

>>11148321
>get harassed by police
>abuse police officer

who was in the wrong here? everyone

>>11146393
Hey nigger, I biked around at 3 am on a fucking trekke bike with a nexus 5 in my left hand blasting plastic love and cops didn’t even look at me

>>11148267
>>11148299
>>11148267
Jesus fucking christ no wonder your country is far down the shitter.

My entire point is that shouting out «racist» freely makes you seem like an absolute mouthbreater and it dilutes the word. I am by no means a racist but you cant expect to win anything except contempt if your final response to anyone who does not share your perspective is «ur a racist» (unless said anon really is a racist, but this was certainly not the case to which I replied to).

Now I clarified what I meant. If you still want to argue a strawman be my guest

>>11148552
>Now I clarified what I meant. If you still want to argue a strawman be my guest
kek, nice projection lad
1. not an amerishart
2. didn't read anything else u said
3. never called you racist
4. just because you think you're not doesn't mean that you aren't
5. try not to be so triggered by the word

>>11148552
>I am by no means a racist
t. racist

>>11147136
>without mention of race
You keep adding this part to push your agenda. Notice how your entire argument revolves around trying to convince me that the REAL problem is I wasn't wearing an extremely specific ensemble of clothing (of undetermined make or style), or that I should have thought twice about not "looking like a local" (in some vague undefined way that totally has nothing to do with race, because you said so, even though we're running in circles trying to get you to define what it DOES have to do with)

>None of this world you are trying to build makes any sense
The experience of being on the receiving end of discrimination, and how to deal with that, usually doesn't make any sense to someone who has no frame of reference other than being a member of the majority group. So usually the person who is struggling to make sense of it comes up with increasingly ludicrous explanations, which all ultimately end up sounding like "that's what Jesus wants", probably because on some level you feel as though the mere mention of a racist incident somewhere in flyover USA means you have to personally answer for the behavior of all white people everywhere since the start of recorded history, because as we both know any member of any one race is automatically the official spokesperson for every other member of that race, right?

>>11148350
In the future, get some lights. That's very dangerous.

Since you're a lagdroid poor, I suggest Cygolite, they're reliable, and reasonably priced. If you want to spend real money I have some other suggestions.

>>11148552
>describing racist acts as racist, and people who perform racist acts as racists, is why America fought a civil war over slavery
True. I wonder why some people object?

>>11143028
>When I lived in Iowa
Lol the flyover state resident complaining

>>11148887
>being this ignorant about the civil war

drink alone at home like a normal person
when im my own bartender its waaay cheaper and nobody gives me shit if i drink the whole bottle in one night

>>11148941
Oh sorry it was about states rights and "heritage"

>>11143028
>Living in the suburbs
If you don't have kids, there is absolutely no reason to live there

>>11148947
I bet you think we joined ww2 to save the jews and Vietnam was because of the Gulf of Tonkin incident

>>11148947
honestly the confederates are more legitimate than the liberals, which is the real reason they try to erase them
there are statues of them and the rebel flag still flies wherever americans are still really free because their cause was just
the faggots tear down their statues because even 150 years later the rebellion trumps political correctness

>>11148947
lol public school

>>11148957
>da JOOZ
You're going for too much at once here. Keep it focused, don't play all your cards at once, and you might get someone.

2/10 I replied, but your game needs work.

>>11148973
>implying I'm saying anything bad about jewish people
Not everyone is a /pol/ boogeyman

>>11148975
Another reason why you suck at this, it's way too early to try and play the moral high ground, you need to play that card 4 or 5 moves in. Lacks strategy, lacks focus, F- see me after class.

Also, this is the food and cooking board, if you want to do babby's first attempt at being edgy and provocative there are dedicated boards for that.

>>11148997
How is that provocative? Also, this thread lost it's way multiple posts ago. Why are you so angry and claiming that I said something disparaging about jews?

>>11149014
I'm not the angry one here, and I never put words in your mouth. But you did put words in mine, which is probably why you're projecting like mad about people being angry, and people allegedly saying you said stuff that you didn't say.

This really didn't turn out well for you. Better luck next time.

>>11149015
On this site when someone replies to a comment that happens to mention jews with DA JOOS, it's typically because they assume that person dislikes jews, sorry if I misunderstood. I'll concede you didn't put words in my mouth if that wasn't your intentions, but then you proceeded to say I was being edgy for saying that the civil war wasn't fully about slavery, that was a minor part for most of those in the government, just like freeing the jews in labor camps wasn't the reason the world signed up for WW2, and was certainly a very minor reason why the USA decided to participate, and the Tonkin incident is the same. All of these reasons were mostly used as a way to promote the wars to the people as just and righteous, some of these were more just than others.

I'm sorry that I implied you were angry. You come off that way through text, at least to me, especially when you said I was trying to be "edgy", when I'm not. You also keep replying in what I perceive to be an extremely catty manner which I find to be a bit telling of the overall tone of your posts, but I could be wrong. It's pretty early in the morning now, so it's time for me to get ready for the day. See you around, anon.

>>11149043
tl;dr

>tfw /pol/ spills into a /ck/ and turns a thread about BARS into a bunch of retarded arguing

Goddamn you faggots, shut the fuck up and talk about bars.

>>11149208
/tv/ in /ck/ is fine tho rite?

>>11149208
alcohol isn't even supposed to be discussed on /ck/ at all

>>11146763
>that picture
Oh hey, the sjw reddit faggot from another thread is a total sjw reddit faggot here, too. Imagine that!

>>11149222
Yes it is. I didn't use to be allowed though.

>>11143832
I'm a fat neckbeard on 4chan so maybe my views are distorted, but somehow I would feel like less of a loser just drinking and watching TV than I would feel from drinking with people on discord.

>>11146720
"Victim blaming" by current memes is 99% bullshit. Basically suggesting for someone to take any precautions is considered "victim blaming" by the regressive left

>>11149643
>just be born a totally different race, it's common sense! these people were asking for it

>>11149654
Take it up with your karma pal.

>>11143028
Five miles is walking distance.

Sounds like market opportunity Anon

Start your own bar

>>11146272
Fantastic post

>>11149654
>doesnt appreciate white people
>goes to a site thats 80+% white
Just go to worldstar.

>>11149703
>I don't recognize this person's right to exist, so they probably don't recognize mine either
Now kids, this is what we call "projection"

>Move from twin cities to Wisconsin
>Bars everywhere
>12 in walking distance
>Every where sells alchohol from gas stations to carner sandwich shops
>Everyone drinks openly walking down the sidewalk
>My appartment is a bar
>I am in heaven

>>11149711
>are minorities treated bad
They are in China, Africa, the middle east etc. No mandatory diversity training there lol.

>>11149711
no. celebrities here.

>>11149711
lol we hand out shit to minorities on a silver platter, reddit.

>>11149711
I think it's more about all the non-white countries being shitholes.

>>11149751
>sorry but if we let you in, we'd lose our "culture"
>test scores and GPA aren't really a good indication of aptitude anyway, we need to assess the big picture, like what's your last name

>>11149762
Ironically white people are the ones against Affirmative action and for meritocracy. But that would be (((racist))). Polla show like 70% of whites against race based admissions, i mean its not like it benefits us

>>11149785
>i mean its not like it benefits us
Except that it does, unless you genuinely believe that the number of black kids from the projects admitted solely on the basis of race is statistically significant. If you knew what was best for you, you'd fight tooth and nail to preserve affirmative action. If not for it, the halls of MIT, Juilliard, Cal Tech, and UC Berkeley would be almost entirely Asian with a large Jewish minority. The white angos would be in the corner with the black kid on a basketball scholarship and the mexican from east LA.

>>11149803
All the Ivy Leagues are already 99% Jewish

>>11149806
Not even close, spend less time on stormfront

>>11149803
lol: the post
The intellectual abilities of slopes is vastly exaggerated

>>11149813
whats stormfront? i spend all my time on /ck/

>>11148901
He's right about how many bars we have though. If there's a state that cares less about regulating alcohol, I don't know it

>>11148193
i once rode my bike to the bar around 11pm, after i was already plastered from drinking at home, drink as much as i could until closing and I was fucked. i puked on their steps as I was leaving. i dont remember anything other than getting on my bike and waking up in the hospital. my bike was totally twisted. I think I got hit by a car but no one was totally sure. I woke up and the fucking doctor was like hey look at that poster and tell me what it says, then takes my cath out and it hurt to pee for 2 days.
that's not the only time that cath pull happened. i got really plastered once and dropped acid and did a bunch of coke and got pushed out of a vehicle because i was acting up. my left leg got stuck in the wheel well kinda and it tore a bunch of skin off my calf. i dont remember anything other than hitting the ground and waking up in the hospital. doc told me about the drugs i said i did, but i didnt remember anything. was p cool.

>>11149938
you need to find jesus, my son

I rode my bike drunk several times years ago but now I'd feel bad. Eventually I realized that the argument that "I'm only risking my own self" isn't cutting it.
The truth is if you do something dumb while riding a bike, vehicles may swerve in order to avoid hitting you, and this may in turn put them at risk. It's really not like most drivers are just going to be like "ha ha this drunk ass went in front of me, I'll just run him over then because it's his own fault."

>>11149951
ride on the footpath if you're that drunk

>>11143028
Stop being poor

>>11149959
No, the proper thing to do is just walk with your bike. A drunk bicyclist riding on a footpath is a menace to pedestrians.

>>11149959
u can get a ticket for riding a bike on the sidewalk here in CT. and getting a ticket means they know ur drunk and boom DUI for riding a bike.

>>11143028
Minnesota has fucked liquor laws. No liquor or strong beer in grocery stores or gas stations. Just liquor stores, which have to close at 10. Stay in Iowa, I'm trying to get back.

>>11149942
i made it to work on time both days after those accidents.

Former cop here.
Once I had to arrest a drunken beaner riding a motorcycle on the sidewalk because he knew it was illegal to drive drunk on the road.

It's not never not ok to ride a bicycle but there's definitely a large intoxication gap between when it's not ok to drive and when it's not ok to ride a bicycle

>>11149971
oh is that the proper thing to do is it?
heavens forbid i become a menace

>>11149993
fuck u pig

>>11150011
>It's not never not ok to ride a bicycle
hmm

>>11149993
Fucking pig, what meme law did you charge him under? Racist

>>11149993
*puts hands up* don't murder me officer, I swear I'm over 56% huwhite

Who here /allowedtobuyalcoholonsunday/?

>>11150040
I hate you

>>11150023
owi and possession of a stolen vehicle (imagine that)
pretty sure he was deported too lol

>>11150040
michiganfag here. Beer in convenience stores and gas stations, hard liquor in grocery stores, sold every day of the week. Feels comfy.

>>11149976
Hey, at least now they are allowed to sell it on Sundays.

>>11150018
yes, a menace, society doesn't need your drunk ass barrelling down a footpath where elderly people might be walking or parents might be pushing their baby strollers. Get your drunk ass off the bike and walk carefully.

>>11150052
we can get hard liquor in gas stations
t. yooper

>>11150040
See
>>11150068

>>11150074
>muh babies & the eldery
kek i don't think so at 3am faggot

>>11150080
Literally the perfect time to take babies on their daily crawl

>>11150080
if there's literally not a soul in sight then OK but even if you hit another drunk who's walking home then you're a douche

>>11150095
you're grossly underestimating how competently i can ride a bicycle when i'm blind drunk lad.

>>11150112
wow, an alcoholic retard who's super confident in his ability to perform activities requiring alertness and coordination while drunk. how original

>>11143028
Why the fuck do people even go to bars? Drink at home. It's so much cheaper plus you don't have to deal with annoying music and cunty people.

>>11150128
cliches are cliches because they're true

>>11150128
Fact: I shoot better when I'm a bit drunk.

>>11150131
According to the eating at restaurants alone thread, /ck/ is overwhelmingly full of sociable normies

>>11150141
Oh, good, this one is shooting guns while drunk. Have you tried juggling chainsaws, because maybe you'd be good at that too.

>>11150131
Why do you go to such shitty bars?

>>11150152
I don't go to any bars because I can just make the drink at home with little effort and cheaper.

>>11143028
>Twin Cities suburb
Drinking is not allowed in Muslim communities

>>11150148
i swear to god i would shoot you if i could if you dont shut your mouth

>>11150158
I'd better watch out. Because you're such a good shot when you're drunk.

>>11150169
I really am. I would have been good in the wild west. Pardner.

>>11150155
You have space for several dozen barrels of different beers?

>>11150112
A buddy of mine got a DUI while biking drunk, ironically because he lost his drivers license for driving drunk. The judge threw the book at him and he got the full penalty for 2nd offense, poor guy. Has a degree in chemistry but can only get a job in non-union sweatshop factories that specialize in hiring ex-criminals and paying shit wages. Don't be that guy.

>>11150200
Funny, my DUI later on would result in me getting a much better job then I could have. Weird how that works.

>>11150200
he really should have straightened up all the way after the first dui. Also after the first one there's no excuse for him not to know it's illegal to ride a bike drunk too.

>>11150200
Thanks for the warning, but I don't actually like in a draconian nightmare society, so you don't have to worry about me

>>11150219
I don;t know. Getting a dui on a bike is pretty weak. Cop was a chickenshit asshole if biker dude didn't talk his way into it.
t. former cop again

>>11150267
it was almost certainly the later. people cry about all kinds of bullshit charges while ignoring the valid universal charge for being a dick to a cop

>>11150157
I wonder what the story is behind the guy taking the picture

>>11150200
It’s impossible to get a dui on a bike where I live, not that it’s a good idea. You can still kill yourself