/ck/ - Food & Cooking

nothing wrong with sugar as long as you have some fiber with it. sugar spikes are whats really dangerous, diabeetus doesn't occur from sugar consumption alone

>>11148253
You need sugar to live. Don't eat like a fucking barbarian and you'll be fine.

>>11148253
I've had plenty of both sugar and cocaine. The comparison is a load of shit. It's just fearmongering by anti-sugar people to try to sell their new diet book with sensationalist claims. Sugar isn't great for you if your diet is improperly balanced, but that's about it; the cocaine comparisons are ridiculous.

>>11148253
It's so full of bullshit it's running for president in 2020 after a series of agressive and egotistical tweets.

>>11148322
MUUUUH BLUUUUMPF

>>11148253
>he thinks chemical formula having similar numbers mean the molecule is similar

They look nothing alike. The atoms are configured completely differently.

>>11148279
You sound stuck on sugar. I'm starting to see what OP is talking about.

>>11148253
>H2O = Water (water)
>H2O2 = hydrogen peroxide (Poisonous antiseptic)
I been reading "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Hydration" by David L. Who, and he says that water is almost like cocaine, but water is worst than cocaine due that produces dysentery, malaria and drowning. I have no idea how works english, so anyone could please be so gentle to tell me if this is a big pile of bullshit?

>>11148384
kek

>>11148367
>t. Ketofag giving himself diabetes
Try just eating as your ancestors did before the industrial revolution. You'll probably find your health improves

>>11148384
>David L. Who
Pottery

>>11148365
I second this.

Compare these
C6H12O6 glucose
to
CHN cyanide

>>11148253
you can run through a lot more complications through daily cocaine use vs daily sugar use.

plus naming the chemical formula of a substance doesnt mean its at all related to something else. theyre not even isomets, or have the same structure, let alone the same polarity, or effects. c6h12 is way different than c6h18, and c6h12 doesnt even have to refer to benzene.

>>11148393
I think your comprehension needs a little work. We all know what was meant by "sugar" in the original post. You don't seem to.

>>11148253
Structure dictates function

Also, you're a faggot for posting chemical formulas.

I do agree with you that sugar, in excess, is pretty detrimental to health. Most people would be shocked to know that the increase in coronary heart disease for the last 5 decades is directly linked to the increase of sugar consumption, not fats. Fats are good and necessary.

>>11148253
Strychnine: C21H22N2O2
OMG did you know that sugar is literally rat poison?!?!

>>11148443
I tried it and it made mustard gas, don't do this

>>11148456
>and c6h12 doesnt even have to refer to benzene.
of course it doesn't, the formula for benzene is C6H6

>>11148253
You need pyruvate to initiate the Krebs cycle (pic related), which is essentially a cleave of the glucose ring structure into two identical molecules. You cannot live without sugar. Cocaine acts on your nervous system, not on your metabolism. Sugar is more readily available (consumer wise) so it's much easier to "overdose" on sugar than it is on cocaine, thus you get a prevalence of diabetes and gout. Moderation is the key to everything. Also stop reading pseudo science.

>>11148253
>I have no idea how works chemistry
English neither, evidently.

>>11148384
Literally kek

>>11148274
You dont need to eat sugar to live. Your liver can make what little glucose you need out of protein and fat.

>>11148253
you should probably defer to doctors if you want answers. stupid people can and do write books thinking they're onto something or for money

>>11149045
>what little glucose you need
you need a lot of glucose to live

>>11148253
>implying CICO is real
why do we need to have these threads every day?

>>11148253
>C17H21NO4= Cocaine
>C12H22O11= Sucrose(sugar)
>implying empirical formula means anything

>>11148253
>there is carbon and hydrogene so it must be the same molecule

>>11148322
Gronarg Plarb!

>>11148253
>Cocaine is safer than sugar
Can't tell if this is bait or if you're just this retarded.

>>11148274
so, maybe I need cocaine to live too

>>11148253
>sugar is almost like cocaine
That's not how chemistry works, dude.

>>11148539
Real talk though, thinking of sugar as poison is the best way to break the addiction

Low-IQ diets for low-IQ people

>>11148322
Based and redpilled

>>11148274
>Don't eat like a fucking barbarian

Hey, don't talk shit about barbarians. Some barbarians had pretty good diets, mostly lean meats and foraged vegetables/fruits. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the next fad diet is called the "Barbarian Diet".

>>11148471
Paleotard myth #56

Status: BUSTED

>>11148471
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>>11148471
HFCS consumption is down as well and the lead researcher for the sugar consumption rates included HFCS in the study

>>11148253
the chemical formula means dick as far as functionality goes. Cholesterol based hormones are very similar but produce vastly different results. It's a big load of bullshit. The only thing they both do is trigger a dopamine response, but a ton of shit does that

>>11148253
>Haha dude they've got similar empirical formulae
Absolute brainlet

>>11149612
>Dopamine response
Lol dude wanking = sugar lmao

Please go back to middle school to learn chemistry basics

>>11149094
wrong

>>11149888
>your brain doesn’t need glucose
Yours obviously is deprived of it

>>11149094
The lower limit of sugar you have to eat each day in order to live is zero grams. The lower limit for carbohydrates in general is also zero grams. The liver easily makes what you need, and what you need isn't much; we haven't successfully found the lower limit, but subjects have been taken down as low as 20mg/dl without issues.
>>11149903
Might want to study up on some biochemistry before embarrassing yourself like that.
Your brain doesnt actually need much glucose, and it is quite possible that it doesnt need any at all. It has been verified to run almost completely on betahydroxybutyrate under the right conditions.

>>11149979
>might want to read up on biochemistry

>your brain doesn’t need glucose!!
Lol

>sugar
>sucrose
>come from plant
>cocaine from plant
>wonder why made from same shit

>>11148253
Congrats op u r dumb as shit

>>11148365
You'd be hard fucking pressed to find anything in everyday life without C, H, O, and N

>>11149503
>Real talk though, thinking of sugar as poison is the best way to break the addiction
Or instead of playing retarded mind games with yourself you could just plan out a diet and follow it.

>>11149094
you can take all the sugar you need from fruit

LOOK ME LOOK ME
I ALSO WANT TO BE STUPID

>>11148253
no cocaine's side effects are still worse

>>11151440
>A marijuana overdose is even worst that the cancer produced by Tobacco

Nani?

i thought i was on /vr/ and those brains were metroids

I’ve done cocaine and comedown isn’t that bad but it’s way worse than a sweet tooth.

>>11151658
>getting fat is worse than destroying your internal organs

>>11150708
>what is salt

>>11152370
Salt has those.

That's the reward centre of the brain, doing literally anything pleasurable should activate those areas

>>11149567
Sounds like Paleo

>>11152866
Typical table salt is Na Cl and I.

>>11148253
sugarcane
cocaine

>>11154179
sugar cane
cock cane

>>11148253
Sugar doesn't make my heart feel like it's going to burst out of my chest.

chemical names mean fucking nothing you fags that pull this shit are so stupid
the chemical compounds being similar means absolutely nothing when they're not identical
you know the difference between sugar and coke? its chemical makeup

>>11148384
>David L. Who
Nice.

H2O = water
H2S = hydrogen sulfide

Good one

>>11148274
>You need sugar to live.
Incorrect. Any person can go their entire lives without eating added sugar in anything: not cereal, not in their coffee drinks, not baked into bread or in snacks or anything. In fact, you could even go your entire life without eating anything with sugar at all. Meat and leafy veg will sustain you.

>>11148253
He only means that sugar is like cocaine in terms of addiction and the way the brain responds to it. Excess sugar consumption, especially as found in the avg American diet, can cause diabetes - but excess cocaine use can cause heart failure.
It's kind of a far reach as an equivocal comparison but he's not really wrong, just exaggerating.

>>11155564
Except eating in and of itself will engage the same reward pathways, generating a very similar brain image. If you’re hungry, then you can eat broccoli and it will light up these same areas.

>>11155585
>If you’re hungry, then you can eat broccoli and it will light up these same areas.
Not for me senpai. Broccoli only lights up the DESGOSTANG areas of my brain because it tastes like farts smell.

>>11148253
If you eat a pound of sugar you will probably at worst vomit or make your kidneys a little angry. If you eat a pound of cocaine you will die. Which one do you think is worse?

Related: https://youtu.be/OHQP6GyXRGg

Dude's a total fag, but it's the most complete story of Pablo EskoBear.

>>11148274
>you need sugar to live
This is demonstrably untrue.