/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11083365
Steak.
Beef jerky.
Smoked chicken.
Salmon.
Tuna.
Cheeses.

>>11083365
How about stocking up on some self control so you don't need to strain your body and destroy your kidneys?

>>11083371
Tuna, Mackerel, or Deenz packed in OIL

>>11083383
>so you don't need to strain your body and destroy your kidneys?
or you know, just drink water, that works too

>>11083371
Imagine the smell.

Remember to eat berries, high fat yogurt, chia seeds, hemp seeds.

Celery and cheesy/creamy artichoke dips are great too.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext
For me it's dying 30% younger, losing most of my skin elasticity before 40, having weak erections and balding early just to shed a few pounds the lazy, unhealthy way

>>11083365
Cheese.
Chicken thighs.
Pork Rinds.
Quest Bars.

>>11083365
You need to eat vegetables too bro

>>11083507
>Chicken thighs.
dont eat this, its full of toxic trash

>>11083365
Activated almonds

>>11083556
basado

>>11083365
this shit was pretty tasty
https://www.ruled.me/buffalo-chicken-jalapeno-popper-casserole/

>>11083501
>aged 45–64 years
there's your problem anon, they were already well beyond saving

>>11083496
>berries
>keto
Seriously ?

>>11083549
So is your mom, but we eat her.

>>11083632
yes, are you daft?

>>11083632
berries are pretty much the only fruit good for keto

>>11083854
Avocado.

>>11083496
>high fat yogurt
I've been buying "coconut yogurt"
>33 gram serving
>8g fat
>less than 1g protons or carbs
It's a pretty good way to balance macros.
Then you can balance it with greek yogurt to balance them even harder.
>100g serving contains
>10g protons
>3g fat
>3g carbs

I think I might unironically spend 2-3 days just eating these two foods and nothing else each week.
>

>>11083383
It has more positive physiological effects than simple calorie control. That's just the beginning. Try it sometime. You'll be surprised at the improvements.

>>11083618
You can't read beyond the first two sentences anon? l2read a study

>>11083501
None of those people were in ketosis.

>>11083365
Chicken thighs
Shrimp
Green beans

>>11083975
>implying that even the <5% carbohydrates group going zero-carb to enter ketosis would somehow magically heal all the wounds, diseases, and dietary lackings that low-carb causes
This is your brain on ketardation

Salmon
Liver

Organ meats
Most sea food

>>11083985
>Green beans
arent those bad for keto?

>>11084019
They are ok, like other greens just make sure you stay below 20gr of carbs.

>>11083507
>Pork Rinds.
I have gotten so fucking sick of these.

>>11083383
Because you only have a certain amount of willpower during the day and I would rather use it on my goals rather than fighting my hunger urges.

>>11083986
You are not scientific. Sorry. There's no point listening to.

>>11083365

thats not really keto my man. you should be at like 70% from fat and that diet is much much higher in protein. if too much protein youll get gluconeogenesis meaning your body convert some protein to glucose which means you will not be in ketosis.

>>11084107

i mean the article you posted says that what they considered low carb was >40% which is by no means low enough for ketosis so i dont really know what your point is about that other dude not being science or whatever

>>11084111
so, whats a "true" keto?

>>11083383
[citation needed]

>>11084264
No tomato in the burger, half the almonds.

>>11084264
A cun guzzling faggot

>>11083888
>coconut yogurt
Sounds awful. What's it like?

>>11084068
Same here. They're just so easy to make, especially in the morning when pressed for time, so it's hard to ignore them.

>>11084286
Not him
It's more interesting than you'd think, a bit expensive, though.

>>11084279
>no tomato
I kinda thought those were ok.. I fucking love tomatoes so I would seriously hate to give up on them.

I had ketosis when I got diabetes (Type 1, I'm not a fatty) and I cannot imagine anyone willingly subjecting themselves to this shit. I was constantly hungry, thirsty and dissatisfied, it was horrible. Sure, I was losing weight but the fact that ketosis is the symptom of a severe autoimmune disease should suggest it's not a good or desirable state, right?

>>11084322
Ketoacidosis, is not ketosis. It’s too late for me to try to explain it. Smdh!

>>11084068
Use hot sauce.

>>11083365
That image is so retarded I'm at a loss for words. Keto is like the Trump of fad diets in that it's clearly a fucking joke but there are retards out there who take it serious as fuck for who know's why.

>>11084358
t. carblet

>>11084353
It wasn't ketoacidosis, I was diagnosed before it reached that state and it still fucking sucked.

>>11084373
There is no diagnosis, like seriously. Eat more than 50 grams of carbs and you will not produce ketones. Period.

>>11084358
I see. But that comment has nothing to do with the image. Do you even understand it?

>>11084381
I was eating like two loaves of bread a day and was producing shitloads of ketones and losing weight horrifyingly fast, you incredibly stupid shit. Read the comment thread that you're replying to.

>>11084428
So it was ketoacidosis.

>>11084393
The image is meant to be ironic.The left is a stereotype of what a vegan/vegetarian would say to someone who eats meat, when the reality is that omnivores who don't adhere to meme diets generally eat everything, including all the same shit veg fags eat, but with animal products. Whoever made that image just shopped out everything involving carbs. Do you not understand that it's literally a joke?

>>11084433
It's not. You have performed weird gymnastics to pretend that it is.

>>11083365
Keto should only be considered when losing small amounts of body fat percentile.
Being a land whale and doing keto will cause early heart disease and strokes.

If your BMI is above 30%, you should CICO and no sugar/sweetener.

Redpill me on stevia while on keto
I dont have a problem with dropping all candies and sugar, i dont like sweets that much anyway, but im just too used to putting just a little bit of brown sugar in my coffee. Will I be fine with using stevia instead for my coffee while on keto?

>>11084453
Yes. There are arguments against the consumption of stevia, but they've got nothing to do with whether it's compatible with keto.

>>11084442
wrong

For all you keto haters and carb addicts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vYxOztmmfM

Keto literally cures cancer

Glucose fuels cancer cells

Ketones starve them

Have fun dying because your are too weak to resist bread

>>11084442
All carbs are sugar you retard

Bread and chocolate all create glucose in the blood stream and release insulin

>>11084322
Type 1 diabetes means all carbs you eat get pissed out again as glucose. This upsets the osmotic gradient in your kidneys, leading to excessive urination. Along with glucose, you piss out electrolites, among which potassium your body could have used to regulate your blood pH. So now you have dehydration, acidemia, hyponatremia, hypophosphatemia, hypomagnesemia, hypocalcemia, and hypokalemia. This is why you feel tired and weak.

If you're not diabetic, you're not pissing out massive amounts of water, glucose, and electrolites. Your body can regulate its blood pH and you won't enter ketoacidosis.

>>11084356
I've used a small amount of nacho cheese sauce.

>>11084432
From a google search:

>Symptoms of ketosis:
>Rapid breathing
>Flushed cheeks
>Abdominal pain
>Sweet acetone (similar to paint thinner or nail polish remover) smell on the breath
>Vomiting
>Dehydration.

I had 0 of these. Ketoacidosis is a severe and extreme condition I was fortunate enough to avoid, not ketosis, which I had.

>>11084518
One of the first things people complain about with keto is the stress it puts on the kidneys and the resulting thirstiness. Obviously because the body of a keto hipster isn't falling apart (yet) it isn't going to be anywhere near as fucked as a diabetic, but that doesn't mean keto is good for you.

>>11083869
But that's bland, expensive trash. Hell, I can't even find ripe ones to use.

>>11084562
The thirstyness is a result of 2 things.
1. Your body is moving into ketosis which breaks down the fat in your body. It's a chemical reaction and you need water to help that reaction continue.
2. With less carbs being eaten your body stores less water and you urinate more.

>>11084068
dip in sour cream

Keto is great after 1-2 weeks of suffering, which is way beyond a carbfag's willpower

>>11083365
I'm interested to see how the keto meme ends up. My guess is long term it's going to wreck people. Glad you fags are being the guinea pigs.

>>11084631
*dab dab*

>>11084780
Keto is not meant as a long term diet, and anyone pushing for that is a weak willed retard. It's good for taking weight off, but once you reach a healthy weight you need to switch off it. Countless medical professionals have stated this, and all research points to it probably being a really terrible idea to be on for more than a few months at most.

That said, I am switching off it after 9 months and 100lbs of weight loss. Never really experienced anything terrible except from abnormally oily urine, but that is just a symptom of ketosis. Will probably resume around new year's. Until then I'm keeping my caloric deficit and eating 30/30/40 CPF. Steadily going to ease into 40/40/20, so that I don't become diabetic from my likely fucked up insulin.

That's probably the scariest part of keto. You cannot healthily just switch off. Your blood sugar will cuck you into next week with too many carb bombs at once. You have to ease back in. The right way to do it is to increase incrementally by around 20-30 each week.

P O R K

B E L L Y

>>11083365
I don't like avocados outside of guacamole, I don't like almonds, I don't like bacon, I don't like protein wraps, and I don't like coconuts. Maybe keto isn't for me, I guess I could just eat rice.

>>11084264

looks like this

>>11086241
>I don't like bacon
Know that any opinion you have on any topic is garbage.

>>11084830
So you kept a calories deficit for 9 months, and this is somehow a miracle weight loss treatment?
Gee, I wonder what the secret to this could be?

>>11084506
Or you can reach ketosis by not eating at all.

>>11084453
Stevia scores 0 on the Glycemic Index. It's one of the superior alternative sweeteners.

>>11084068
I don't eat them much. Never was into chips or salty snacks. They're great as a breadcrumb substitute though. I consider them a pantry staple.

Keto has zero metabolic advantages
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/83/5/1055/4649481

>>11084506
There are hundreds of types of cancers that all operate drastically differently

Cancers can run on anything. You don’t understand oncology

im trying to lose weight, am now 78kg, want to go down to 68. im counting calories, doing 1500 a day. would keto be quicker?

>>11083501
>didn't read the paper
The lower carb consuming individuals in the study consumed almost no fruit and vegetables. The lower carb individuals are also much fatter. These are not people with lower absolute carb consumption, but with a much higher consumption of animal fats and proteins, on top of a normal consumption of carbs. Then there is a finding that individuals who increased plant consumption while lowering carb consumption had much better outcomes.

>>11086647
Tell me what your average meals are like.

>>11086597
>You don’t understand oncology
>Get patient sloughed off from cancer surgeon who removed all of the tumor, examined sentinel and 3 other lymph nodes and no cancer found, so no spreading
>meet with vulnerable cancer patient and scare them to death that they must have a $300,000 regimen of chemo/radiation if they want to live 2 more years
>patient shits their pants, nods head, oncologist collects $100,000 in kickbacks from our friendly neighborhood GMO/chemotherapy pharma company
Oh, I think we understand oncology very well.

>>11083365
Cauliflower, zucchini, broccoli, mushrooms, salad; are a must for me.

>>11083854
Kiwi, coconut and passion fruit are also good

>>11083869
On itself is boring, but you can make great dishes with it.

>>11084562
The thirst only happens during the adaptation period.

>>11083383
This. Why don't people just fucking eat less. Y'all act like losing weight is some form of black magic

>>11086317
>gee willikers, you mentioned nothing about this but I'll knee jerk anyways
Only thing Keto has going for it is satiety. Nowhere in my post did I claim otherwise.

Are there any good alternatives for onions? They seem to have so many carbs. I'm not on keto, but I fast on a frequent basis, and tend to prefer less carbohydrates in my diet.

Otherwise, do you think that it is acceptable to eat onions as adherents of keto?

so what if i eat everything on the right as well as healthy complex carbs, while throwing in extra fruits vegetables and healthy dairy

>>11084381
>Eat more than 50 grams of carbs and you will not produce ketones. Period.
Except thats wrong on several levels. The most basic is, that peoples bodies are going to have different thresholds based on their activity levels. Your average office worker may be below that but thats not a hard and fast rule.

>>11084506
>Keto literally cures cancer
No, it can starve some specific cancers, but others can also thrive off ketones. Best solution like most things is to take a moderate stance

>>11088640
As someone who isn't trying to strictly stay in ketosis, I don't think you should really worry yourself about some carbs in onion. Particularly given the other benefits of eating onions/garlic

Anything is okay on keto, it just depends on the dosages.

>>11088891
Thanks Anon. Looking forward to tossing up an onion in my food tomorrow (been fasting all day). Good luck with your fitness endeavors.

carbcucks btfo.

>>11088290
Arent zucchini bad for keto?

>>11089074
>4g for ~200g per zucc
It's not that bad.

>>11088411
It's not just about losing weight. You can be better than you are.

How do you guys usually cook your greens? I've been just steaming broccoli and eating spinach straight.

>>11089470
I steam or saute my broccoli in olive oil.
Spinach, I love putting in my omelette, chop a few jalapenos and you are golden

>>11086243
Only if you are epileptic child.

>ketards

>>11088411
Because it's also an efficient way of packing in large amounts of protein. If you're cutting on a fairly tight calorific budget, then you've got very few calories left over for carbs after you've gotten sufficient fat and protein anyway. If you're just some fat housewife then yes you're pretty much as well off just eating a standard 30:35:35 diet in smaller amounts.

People do meme it too hard though.

My FAVORITE keto meal is always wings. I'm lazy with it though, so my wing recipe follows the Serious Eats oven baked wings recipe... Salt and Baking Powder, let sit uncovered for 24 hrs, bake. Add sauce at end. SO good.

I also eat a lot of veg, my favorite of which being cabbage for bulk (Eggroll in a bowl!) or in soups... or Asparagus for a fast microwaved veg. 12 spears of trader joes frozen grilled asparagus is 25 cal and 2 net carbs. Add fats and flavors, and you've got a super tasty side.

I don't get avocados a lot, I never seem to eat them before they turn. Instead, I get guac singles.... Spicy guac 100 cal singles from aldi's are like 2g net.

Also, Zuchini is great in a gratin (pic included). and cauliflower rice, made into fried rice, is a favorite staple for me.

>>11084068
Use them as "nachos" and cover in meat and cheese guac and sour cream. They're great.

Also, crushed, they are by far the BEST breading for "fried meats" that need a crust, better than whey, better than almond flour, nutritional yeast, coconut flour, etc.They don't taste like pork rinds then

>>11088640
If you still want to have onion flavor, a way to get it with far less carbs is 1-2 stalks of green onion.

>>11089074
zuchinni is great for Keto. I make chips out of zuchini all the time to dip in sourcream

>>11092979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5dijYpJ4PA here's a great comparison of all those breading types. These people do a lot of keto recipes and comparisons, while also frequently showing "day of eating" type videos.

>>11084552
so you had 0 of the symptoms of the condition you had?

>>11084552
I'm in ketosis.

I went to the doc last week.

Breathing is fine, better than ever.
Skin looks great, actualy less acne and no flushing.
No pain in my stomach etc whatsoever, unless I am physically constipated (It happens)
My breath smells normal, partner (not in ketosis) noticed no difference
I never puke, or even feel queasy unless I'm smoking and cough too much
I do drink a TON of water, because if I don't I will get dehydrated.

>>11089149
There is literally no other reason for keto. It's pure weight loss. Other than that, it tears your insides apart. You should only be relying on it for a short period of time, it's not a lifestyle to maintain. You could just stop shoveling Twinkies and HoHos into your fat gullet and drop a few pounds that way, but you retards are beyond help that you can't imagine not eating a brick of cheese every day.

>>11092979
>>11093012
thanks for the info. I'll try this shit out.

Is almond flour just a big meme?

>>11093210
>"cough cough 420 blaze it!"
>keto fags are also dudeweeds

go figure

>>11084293
They’re a fruit for a reason

>>11093316
almond flour is nice for some baked goods and breading options. Sometimes I like to toast it with butter for topping things

>>11088786
A balanced complete diet? What are you a fag?

Why is keto triggering the buttmad fatties so much on this board? Is it because you mongrels are too far gone and cant drop the snickers bar for a day?

>>11083365
Broccoli, spinach, cabbage. Those should be the bulk of your diet (by volume).

>>11093784
This.
Also, chinese(napa) cabage, its GOAT for keto, just lightly sautee it in some olive oil

>>11083940
>It has more positive physiological effects than simple calorie control.
Yeah, for people with epilepsy, and nobody else. Keto is just "Gluten Free" for people who somehow manage to be even bigger insufferable twats.

>>11093707
/ck/ decided hating vegans was too mainstream so they decided to get triggered over something even less common

I've literally never encountered this supposed "smut keto" archetype, which says a lot. I've run into one or two smug vegans out of dozens of normal acting vegans so at least there is a grain of truth to that one

This one is just retards going online looking for a reason to get triggered

>>11094103
Fucking this. I find it hilarious that all these foods, dishes, and recipes that have been around forever are now suddenly "soooooo keto".

I give this shit another year before some other fad diet that "makes me feel so good" rolls out.

To the people who truly take that diet seriously: can you actually see yourself sticking to this for the rest of your life?

>>11094135
Take a deep breath and calm down

>>11094135
Why are you guys so triggered by people enjoying themselves? If keto works for some person and makes him feel good, whats your issue with that?

>>11094159
The fact that somebody has to follow a trendy diet to feel good is probably what triggers most people. What happened to using common sense and not eating garbage and making sure you exercise? That's typically made people healthy and happy.

>>11089015
>m-muh fitness
cringe

>>11094163
Oh, I wonder why people like eating garbage and not exercising you retard.

>>11083365
Currently doing plant-based ketogenic diet with intermittent fasting

Last night I had:

> Pre-dinner snack
Several types of olives and some steamed brocolli sprayed with mct oil and a mix of sodium and potassium chloride

> Green Salad
Mix of spinach and greens, celery stalks, radish, avocado, green bell pepper, raw red onion, and peanuts, with a mayo and tomatillo hot sauce dressing

> Cabbage wrap
Cabbage was salted and steamed to soften. Spread on a layer of baba ganouj, crispy fried zucchini, roasted asparagus, crumbled/seasoned/fried tempeh, and some vegetarian black pudding made of minced roasted mushrooms, walnuts, pureed fried onion/soy sauce/spices, held together with konjac with chunks of konjac and tofu mock fat

> Leftover mapo tofu
Toasted szechuan peppercorns, fermented black bean-garlic and broad bean-chili paste, and because I'm white and therefor apt to ruin ethnic recipes, also toasted some star anise, a mix of hot chilis, some coriander seeds, garlic and ginger, added some sesame oil and stirred to coat, then poured (through strainer) into a pot of some fresh mushroom stock and simmered a few minutes.
Fried tofu in some of the oil that was left behind until slightly golden, then tossed into the stock and simmered a few minutes more, using a couple ladels of stock to try to get the rest of the oil into the pot.
Scooped tofu into a baking dish with some of the stock, mixed in some separately roasted-and-ground szechuan pepper, and then braised it.

> Dessert pie
Made a thin crust by mixing together almond flour, ground flax seed, and a little MCT oil and camelina sativa oil, and pre-baking; for a filling, blended silken tofu with stevia, lactic acid powder, vanilla, salt, and lambda carrageenan/xanthan gum mix, poured onto chilled crust, topped with a few blueberries

I'm confirming ketosis using a combination of urine strips and a breath tester.

>>11094280
...and your point is? what does that have to do with fad diets and people using them to feel healthy/happy?

>>11083371
>Beef jerky.
No, there's sugar in that.

>>11093226
>no other reason for keto. It's pure weight loss.
Just not true, look at peter jordanson

Why are soyboys generally obsessed with pasta? It's just something I've noticed

>>11083365
More leafy greens like spinach, kale, collards or mustard greens, cabbage, etc. Broccoli, cauliflower, sprouts.
Keto is low-carb, not no-carb. If you did any research, you'd find you can eat up to 50g carbs every day and still remain in ketosis, and you should eat in a range between 20g and 50g of carbs every day, even doing keto. Don't avoid vegetables altogether, they're very important.

>>11084019
>>11084021
>>11089074
Uneducated.

>>11084111
That's bullshit, you need to set a protein min goal, limit carbs, and fill the rest with fat. Dumb 70/65/60% ratios makes people under eat protein.

>>11095543
You dont like pasta?

>>11095808
The whole concept of "undereating protein" is ludicrous unless you're talking about cases of literal starvation.

>>11095608
What do "50 grams of carbs" look like?
Like, explain it to a retard, is this 2 bananas, a bowl of broccoli, etc?

>>11093210
>Smokes
>Breath "smells normal"

>>11095933
100 grams of broccoli have 7 grams of carbs but 2.6 grams of that is dietary fiber which does not count towards allowed carbs. That means you can eat more than one kilogram of broccoli and still stay in ketosis.

>>11083365
stop trying to convince yourself that eating copious amounts of saturated fats is doing anything for your lifespan.

>>11094135
i know there's the odd person that go on about keto like its religion, but for the most part people just use it as a quick way to lose weight/get healthy (which it's pretty damn good for) and never plan to keep it up permanently

>>11096953
>wanting to live longer than 40 years.

>>11084631
ten years down the line (lets be honest, you won't be keto for not even remotely close to that long) you're going to feel like shit.
quit following meme diets.
Work out, and eat a balanced diet.
Play the long-term game, and quit trying to get rich quick. Be comfortable with who you are.

https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/a22786890/low-carb-diet-early-death/
Eat a moderate amount of carbs. A balanced diet and some regular exercise is superior to any meme diet unless you have legit medical dietary restrictions.

>>11097761
why didn't you link the study in the first place? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30135-X/fulltext

Also
>sample size of over 15,000 between the ages of 45- 64 years

>>11097761
Why exactly do doctors often recommend a low-carb diet for people with medical issues?

>>11097906
Made by some vegan shaman jew with a bias and doesn't even prove a direct causation

>>11098426
Because doctors want people to get sick so they can sell more medicine.

>>11098426
Because fat people want the easy way out, and making chicken wings and steak "health food" is very easy for these fatties. I am assuming you mean fatties by saying medical issues of course.

fast>keto

>>11097906
>self reported study

Might as well wipe your ass with it.

fat fucks

>>11094178
Triggered fatty over here, lads!
Stop hating me for my ripped body, and gain some self respect.

> Animal fat and coconut oil
Enjoy your heart attack and ictus in your 40

>>11101722
dietary cholesterol has negligible impact on blood cholesterol

>>11101817
I remember being 16 and googling Time magazine headlines to substitute research

>>11101838
now you're 20 something and still doing it.

>>11101852
No. I’m 54 years old. Literally ask me anything

>>11101838
>Dietary cholesterol has an important effect on the cholesterol level in the blood of chickens and rabbits, but many controlled experiments have shown that dietary cholesterol has a limited effect in humans. Ancel Keys, Ph.D. N Engl J Med 1991; 325:584

>>11101865
>Adding cholesterol to a cholesterol-free diet raises the blood level in humans, but when added to an unrestricted diet it has a minimal effect.
Nice attempt at editorializing though

>>11101817
dietary cholesterol sure, unsaturated fat has a high impact on blood cholesterol

>>11083383

Yes goy, eat kraft mac'n cheese and Wonderbread instead of meat and fruit. Because sugar and starch are good for your kidneys! :^)

>>11101878
>to a cholesterol-free diet
I like how you completely ignored the important part of that sentence.

>>11101914
I like how you actually ignore the most important part of unlimited. It’s clear that you have never ever read any of Keys’ work and are just thinking you’ve made some shocking discovery in which he’s contradicted one of the most prominent findings in his career. What he’s actually referring to is the fact that cholesterol levels plateau when you’ve consumed enough dietary cholesterol and the addition of any more cholesterol or cholesterol in general has no effect on these levels. This is in reference to a shoddy anecdote of a man with dementia self reporting he eats 25 eggs a day despite contradicting accounts from others. But of course you’ve never actually read Keys and think you made some sort of astounding discover that you and only you have discovered

I hate cauliflower, but I'm OK with broccoli and spinach.

Is that unusual?

Keto4life. Why? Not just the weight control, it keeps your teeth and gums very healthy, mosquitos don't want to bite you anymore, it reduces/prevents inflammation which makes everything in your body work better, e.g. helps allergies, depression, indigestion, the list goes on an on.

My favorite recipe recently is to make some keto mugbread (put low-carb flour, an egg and baking powder into a mug and the microwave for two minutes, cut into slices). Then put some berries and whipped coconut cream on it, yummy.

I like to make cabbage soup. Boil some cabbage, and then add whatever spices and broth and meat, maybe a little bit of carrots, onions, etc. Sesame oil is a god-tier seasoning that goes with most things, add a little bit of that too. Cook an omelet and roll it up and cut it into thin strips and add to the soup, it's kind of like noodles.

Also you can make protein shakes, mixing and matching protein and fiber drink mixes, nuts and seeds like hemp, pecans, almonds, maybe add some greens like spinach.

It's easy to make sugar-free gelatin or gummy candy. Also you can get away with a bit of dark chocolate.

Some fruit is okay, usually I get frozen berries, you can probably get away with a single apple a day.

On keto you get to happily fill up on fat. It's easy to make a creamy beverage, make it taste good with salt, stevia/erythritol/etc, chai/pumpkin spice and so forth. Make sure you measure how many calories are in it though. A cup of pure cream has 800 calories, make sure you water that shit down plenty. You can also make nut milk by putting nuts in a blender with water and then straining the solids out. Then I save the solids in the mugbread or protein shake.

But seasonings are your friend, easiest thing to do is eat the same thing everyday but with different seasonings. You can eat plenty of salt because on keto your body flushes it out quickly. Best seasoning: smoke paprika, sesame oil, ginger, cayenne, garlic, onion, or just buy some premixed spices.

Anyone ever made some kind of keto chips before?
I'm thinking of heading to the shops to get some zucchinis, then slice them thinly, season them and chuck them in the oven for a while.
Is there any better alternatives or tips?

>>11102048
Potatoes you faggot

>>11083365

> On keto you must eat dangerous amounts of protein! Protein is bad for your kidneys unlike sugar and empty starches!

> Fat is bad for you! Look at this study about "low carb" diets that is barely controlled and isn't even keto at all.

> Keto is too extreme a diet! You can't eat any fruits or vegetables on keto ever!

But it's true.... Keto *is* dangerous, it rapidly causes foaming of the mouth and cancer from ignorant contrarian fags, just look at this thread.

>>11102097
Huh?

>>11101838
try harvard med school when researching next time

>>11102048

It's not worth the effort.
If you want something chip-like, the best thing to do is bake/fry up some cheese or meat until it's crispy.
Or buy some veggie chips e.g. carrots chips from the store and don't eat too many of them at once.
Then there's pork rinds.

>>11101886
Monounsaturated fats have the greatest effect on reducing high blood cholesterol levels and may actually increase “good” cholesterol, or high-density lipoprotein. Polyunsaturated fats are considered heart-healthy, too. According to Harvard School of Public Health, unsaturated fats also reduce inflammation.Mar 28, 2018

first result on google

>>11102106

Didn't mean to reply to the OP. This is in reaction to the dumbasses in this thread regurgitating the same old tired ignorant myths over and over again.

>>11102048

I wish I had some crispy keto cookies. I've made cookies out of almond and coconut flour but the texture is meh. I heard isomalt is good for making crispy cookies but its expensive.

>>11102048

>>11102142
>>11102116
>>11102048
>>11102035
why are ketofags so desperate to pretend to eat carbs? I thought they were so proud to be so ethical and virtuous? are they really like the baptists who only drink vodka because they think other people can't smell it on their breath?

>>11102201
Why are you so upset?

>>11102201

> ethical and virtuous

you are thinking of vegans
people mostly do keto to lose weight, not to trigger you and hurt yoru feelings.
and people like to be creative and invent shit, because we got big protein brains. but a carb brain like you wouldn't be able to understand. go eat your "healthy" Wheat Thins senpai.

>>11102226
I miss wheat thins

>>11102226
>abloobloo waaah im better than you!!

yeah so non-virtuous right, go eat some bread for your glucose deprived brain you caveman shitter

>>11102234
I miss a lot of things. at least i'm on it for another 3 months.

>>11101903
>Because sugar and starch are good for your kidneys!
>meat and fruit
>fruit no longer has sugar in it

>>11088411
Food addiction is a real thing and it's fucking hard. You can't just drop food cold turkey like cigarettes or some shit, you will always have to eat.

>>11102413
That's stupid, look up Marc Lewis and take control of your life. That's like saying exercise addiction is a real thing, because you have to walk from point A to point B.

>>11102425
It's not like saying that at all because the point about always having to eat was not proof of food addiction being a thing but rather a point about why it's hard to control. If your argument is literally just "read someone else's book" then maybe you should reconsider arguing at all.

>>11102452
It was the analysis pathological behavior analysis from a neuroscience and developmental Phd doctorate, you dumb nonce. You don't have to stuff yourself into oblivion every time you eat, just like you don't have to eat a 5th of bourbon whenever you have wine with dinner.

>>11102467
>It was the analysis pathological behavior analysis
Maybe you should have him check you out. I looked him up, I know why you mentioned him. The point is that dropping the name of someone who supports your side isn't an argument and it's fucking dumb when you're going to act intellectually superior for having done it.

>You don't have to stuff yourself into oblivion every time you eat, just like you don't have to eat a 5th of bourbon whenever you have wine with dinner.
Yes, you don't have to be an alcoholic. You don't have to be chain smoker or a heroin addict either. Does the lack of a need for these things stop people from becoming addicts?

>>11084322
I'm also type 1, started the ketogenic diet 3 weeks ago and literally ALL of my health issues are gone. I don't even have to inject anymore. (my pancreas still works 10% of a normal one, which is all it takes to cover keto carbs)

I'm losing weight, my acne is gone for the first time since I was 12, I no longer ache, I think clearer, etc. Etc. Your doctors were misinformed. Ketosis is 100% natural, babies are in ketosis, and most people go Into it lightly each night. You must misunderstand the differences. Basically ketosis is 1-4 ketones, what you had was likely 16 or more.

I've had Ketoacidosis too, and it is an entirely different ballgame!

>>11083869
Avocados are berries I thought.

How do you count sugar alcohols? I've read some sites say that it's 1/2 of it counts as carbs

>>11102765

It depends wildly, different sugar alcohols are different.

Basically: Maltitol sucks. Xylitol is good, Erythritol is perfect.

http://www.sugar-and-sweetener-guide.com/glycemic-index-for-sweeteners.html

>started keto
>have the worst case of diarrhea and i shit water fot the last week
is this normal?

>>11103242
yeah, you'll get over it soon. the worst part is the possible rash you'll get.

>>11103242
Yes, once you've done keto you'll get diarrhea from eating carbs again.

Is it true carbs inherently inflammatory? Mark Sisson claims it makes your face look puffy. Anyone noticed any changed in their looks?

>>11102628
>Ketosis is 100% natural
Natural doesn't mean good. Just wanted to point out that's a fallacious argument.

>babies are in ketosis
Source? Almost 40% of the calories of breast milk comes from lactose, and isn't the keto diet supposed to be less than 10% carbs?

One study says that only some babies are in ketosis, but if they're in ketosis with 40% of the calories coming from lactose, maybe it's only because their stomachs are too small to fully supply all the calories they need? So they're in ketosis only to use up their fat stores?

Most people eat too many carbs, especially refined ones, but I don't think that means they need to be limited so extremely. I get acne if I eat more than a few grams of refined sugar but my skin is fine if I'm drinking milk with lactose in it.

I've been getting these itchy little red bumps in random places in my body, I think it started like a week after I began keto (about to reach the third week next tuesday). Is it part of the transition into ketosis? They itch for a pair of days more or less and then they're suddenly gone.

Whats the verdict on coconut oil for keto compared to butter, lard or beef tallow?

>>11103442
I got a rash too but much more extreme. started behind the ear and within two days went down my chest and back. then it started to have shit ton of pustules. shit went on for weeks until doc gave me an antibiotic after giving me like two different medications.

now it's just a very dry chest and bumpy back.

I looked it up online and apparently it's either a negative reaction to ketones or nutrient deficiency.

>>11102628
>Ketosis is 100% natural
Really? Hunter-gatherers ate mostly fat and protein but carbs were still at least 20% of their diet

>>11102239
>glucose-deprived brain
>he doesn't know about gluconeogenesis
>he doesn't know about beta-hydroxybutyrate
why are vegans so ignorant of science? is it the vitamin deficiency?

>>11103525
Yeah there are still some hunter-gatherers who have been documented getting like 10% of their calories from honey alone, on top of eating fruit and tubers. And evidence was found of bread being made from wild grains by hunter-gatherers.

You can get the benefits of fat in your diet without having to go full keto.

>>11103276
insulin definitely is inflammatory. and carbs do make you retain water like a motherfucker. the amount of water you retain varies, but 8-20 lbs of water on a carb diet vs a keto diet is pretty typical.

I recommend health insurances because ketoacidosis is going to fuck you up

>>11103400
if ketosis were natural but rare you might have a point, but given that people who have normal blood sugar control go into ketosis every night, its a pretty good argument that it isn't bad either. and given the evidence that failure to go into ketosis at night is highly predictive of future metabolic problems, would seem to provide evidence that ketosis is actually beneficial. that some people have metabolisms so out of whack that they have to use a meme diet to get back into ketosis doesn't change that fact.

>>11103607
if you're a type 1 diabetic. if you aren't then ketosis doesn't lead to ketoacidosis. ketoacidosis involves both sky-high ketone levels and sky-high sugar levels, if your body makes reasonable amounts of insulin then neither of those can happen, the insulin/ketone control loop does not appear to be susceptible to insulin resistance. some doctors freak out about ketosis anyway, because ketoacidosis is deadly and they have malpractice premiums to worry about so they err on the side of caution. but ketosis itself is very common, most people go into ketosis while they sleep. the cortisol spike that wakes them up in the morning triggers the liver to release glucose and gets you out of ketosis.

>>11102201
you have confused teh meme keto diet with the meme vegan diet. ketofags are all about hormones and counterregulatory cycles, vegans are all about moral preening and virtue signalling.

>>11102048
I make crackers.
1 cup flax meal
1/3 cup finely shredded parmesan
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1/4 tsp salt
1/3 cup water
knead until its a firm dough
roll thin on a silicon mat, with some wax paper on top to keep it from sticking. if it doesn't roll well then add more water and knead some more. you want it to be about 1/8" thick, and the same thickness throughout. score it with a pizza cutter so you can break it into clean pieces later.
bake at 400 deg for 15-20 mins, depending on your oven and how much water you added. once the water evaporates it will only take another minute or so for the parmesan to melt. it should be firm but not hard when you take it out, it will finish hardening when it cools. makes 100-130 crackers.

>>11103459
Holy shit that sounds insufferable. Mine isn't so bad, I simply get one or two little red bumps on my waist or arms but they itch real bad.
I still wonder if they'll go away eventually because I plan to stay on keto for at least two months until I lose some considerable weight while I lift.

>doctor says cholesterol is high
>try to start eating healthier
>look up keto
>people say it makes them feel better, but consists mostly of foods high in cholesterol

What do I eat??

>>11103681
>What do I eat??
Are you overweight, and/or do you eat a lot of sugar/refined carbs? Both of those can contribute to high cholesterol, so just eat less in general but also less sugar/refined carbs.

>>11103681
See
>>11101865
Eating cholesterol doesnt actually affect your cholesterol level much, because your body makes nearly enough cholesterol for its needs regardless of what you eat. If your cholesterol levels are low then eating foods high in cholesterol will raise your cholesterol levels to normal levels, but if you consume more than that then your body will simply make less cholesterol, so the cholesterol levels dont change much. The total cholesterol number doesn't matter much for your health anyway btw, that was demonstrated decades ago, HDL seems to be helpful for preventing heart attacks while triglycerides seem to cause them. Eating saturated and monounsaturated fats raise HDL, while cutting carbs lowers your triglycerides. Keto diets do both, so the changes in cholesterol composition will make your doctor happy.