/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11000989
Huh?

>>11000989
How come the staircase for protein and sugar only go up to 30, but the fat staircase goes up to 80? What happens when you get 80% of your calories from sugar? Or from protein?

>Visit /fit/
>Read sticky
>Never spread this nonsense again

>>11000989
*calories
Eating too many calories makes you fat.

reminder that you need fat to continue breathing
reminder that you don't need carbohydrates to do the same

>>11001007
Congratulations. You've spotted the intentionally misleading grahic.

>>11001063
>eating calories makes you calories
Huh?

>>11000989
The body burns dietary fat FIRST. Eating complex sugars and carbs makes you fat.

>>11001073
Stopped reading after the first word, huh? Don't worry, I'll say it again just for you:

Eating more calories than you burn makes you fat.

Reminder that OP is a huge faggot

>>11000994
Die already

>>11001094
I'll die when I'm good and ready.

>>11001056
Who are you quoting anon? Are you new?

>>11001142
Are you?

>graphical abstracts
This meme needs to die.

>>11000989
What the fuck is that imagine supposed to mean

>>11001229
It's a meme image from /pol/ it means nothing

>>11001229
YUM YUM

>>11000989
>mice, which evolved to eat grains, nuts, etc are resistant to carbohydrate diets
>humans that evolved in hunter-gatherer societies and subsisted off of meat heavy diets should react the same

ok..

>>11001252
Human evolution hasn't evolved in terms of nutrition since our early ancestors, which were primarily frigivores. You think we've had fire for 30 million years? Are you retarded? Go back to high school. Go Google the invention of fire and compare it to our closest known evolutionary ancestor.

>>11001082
how new are you.
huh?

>>11001252
>resistant to diets
anon above is correct, you're either in high school or younger or know nothing about nutrition
please go back

>>11001229
>>11001233
It's actually from a legit journal.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550413118303929?via%3Dihub
Pretty embarrassing.

>>11000989
For context, here's the link to the scientific article in which this graphic was posted. It was published in a highly reputable journal.
https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(18)30392-9

>>11001346
>>11001356
scientist hive mind

>>11001320
>30 million
Shit moves a smudge faster than that.
Modern humans are relatively recent, 100k or so. Dietary adaptation doesn't take 30million years

>>11001363
Nobody said it did, but you didn't adapt to carnivorous dietary systems in 1/30,000th of your lineage. Read a book. Humans are and have evolved to eat fruit. The reason we see the color spectrum we see is because sight adapted to nutritious FRUITS and berries of certain colors.
I hope you can come back with a cited source, because you're arguing with current scientific understanding of modern human evolution and anthropologic genealogy taught.
I'm sure you think you're something special though. Did enlighten us.

>>11001075
lol
the body burns alcohol first.
then glucose
then fat.
fat is the fuel of absolute last resort, your body tries to avoid burning fat until its starving. it will slow down its metabolism by up to 40% in order to save your fat for the inevitable famine.

>>11001375
>Humans are and have evolved to eat fruit.
in season. if you're eating fruit that are grown in a hothouse or shipped in from the other hemisphere then its gonna fuck you up. fructose puts on fat like nothing else, eating lots of fruit late in the fall to put on fat to get us through the winter was a great survival adaptation. eating fruit year round is a great way to discover assisted mobility scooters.

>>11000989
calories in and calories out.
just start lifting weights OP, don't be an estronaut.

>>11001375
>Humans are and have evolved to eat fruit.
What about the ones who can digest lactose past childhood? Is there a fruit that contains lactose?

>>11000989


>being this goy'd

>>11002215
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27136388
Lolno. Enjoy your fucked up metabolism mate.

>>11002207
>it will slow down its metabolism


Like metabolism speed is a variable that can be altered at whim, idiot.

Reminder that people who have a genetic predisposition to liking sugar are leaner and less likely to be diabetic.
Reminder that sugar is the strongest trigger for FGF21, which is anorexigenic, promoted insulin sensitivity and immediately prevents excess sugar consumption.
Reminder that 95% of people who report "food addiction" are attached to high-fat foods such as cookies, cakes, pizza, ice cream, donuts, bacon etc. (includes a reminder that the average person has such a deficient understanding of nutrition that they do not recognize these foods as being high in fat)

>>11002353
>metabolism speed is a variable
It is. See
>>11002344
for a really well known example.
>be dieting on popular TV show
>eat 750 cals less than normal adult
>lose weight
>plateau because metabolism adjusts
>show's doctor gives us speed to keep metabolism up
>lose weight again
>big ratings
>show ends
>no more free speed
>sadpepe.jpg
>metabolism now permanently stuck at 750 cals below healthy adult
>have to eat like 13yr old girl and exercise 6 hrs every day or get fat again

>>11001320
>frig
Watch your language, young man

>>11002359
>cookies
High carb, very addictive
>cakes
High carb, very addictive
> pizza
High carb, very addictive
> ice cream
High carb, very addictive
> donuts
High carb, very addictive
>bacon
Low carb. But also not addictive. Nobody eats a 2lb pack of bacon at a single sitting, not even the most extreme lardasses.
The high carb items on list are infamous for triggering binge eating. Your inclusion of bacon on that list of "addictive" foods is pure fantasy. Popular? Yes. But it does not trigger binging. There is no tv trope of depressed men eating a 5lb pack of bacon. There are tropes of depressed women eating a carton of ice cream or an entire cake.

>>11002207
>the body burns alcohol first.
>then glucose
>then fat.
Ok so everyone should be drinking alcohol as their primary source of calories?
Based /alck/poster

Want to lose fat? Stop eating food. That's it.

Maybe some exercise to not lose muscle.

Then start eating food when you're not fat anymore.

>>11002398
It's the same logic that says we should use carbs as our main calorie source.
>>11002410
This

>>11002396
>There is no tv trope of depressed men eating a 5lb pack of bacon
.....have you been on the internet? have you never seen the deeply hillarios and sad circuses of fragile masculinity where people wrap everything, top everything, stuff everything, or just replace everything with bacon?......

>>11002423
People like bacon. Wrapping something in bacon for flavor is not remotely the same thing as eating a carton of ice cream or an entire cake at a single sitting.

>>11002396
>Nobody eats a two pound pack of Bacon in one sitting
I do fairly regulary when its around, I fry it very chewy and just eat it at the entire meal. I am 120lbs.

>>11001356
For every legitimate study that show this, there are 50 other legitimate studies that show the opposite. Nice cherrypicked study, opie. Now go back to that big trailer park we so fondly call /pol/

>>11002432
im not talking about wraping something in a strip of bacon...im talking about the recipee videos were people encase things in a-2 sleaves of bacon or weave blankets of bacon and wrap things in it....there has been a thing for some years now of using too much bacon

>>11001356
For every legitimate study that shows this, there are 50 other legitimate studies that show the opposite. Nice cherrypicked study, opie. Now go back to that big trailer park we so fondly call /pol/

>>11002485
Still waiting for credible stories of someone eating a multi-pound slab of bacon all by themselves. You can whine about using an extra slice of bacon all you want, that's still not demonstrative of addictive behavior. Adding lots bacon to a high carb dish is not evidence that bacon is addictive, because carbs themselves are known to be addictive. Find evidence of someone binging on bacon by itself, the way people binge on donuts, cake, ice cream, pizza, and supersized big gulps. If you can't then kindly fuck off.
>protip: you can't

>>11002396
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzuTwYB-y80

>>11002396
>Nobody eats a 2lb pack of bacon at a single sitting


You have not met my wife :(

>>11001252

You do realize that 80% of our diet was from the gatherer part of hunter gatherer right?

Meaning roots, leaves and mostly plant material.

It actually was heavier in leafy greens, vegetables, roots, berries and fruit than meat.

Certainly still guides our eating behavior away from MOUNTAIN DEW XXL™ and DORITOS EXTRA CRUCH™ but to say that it favored meat or fat is erroneous.

>>11001320
>frugivores
stop

>>11001320

Our ancestors ate roots more than fruit.

>>11000989
>absolutely no source what so ever

Trash

>>11002207

You forgot Ash. And that is only if your body is not in a ketogenic state.

As a matter of fact if you aren't in a ketogenic state your body would rather waste than tap into fat stores.

This isn't really an argument for a carb rich diet, it actually detracts from your argument.

>>11002359
>Reminder that people who have a genetic predisposition to liking sugar are leaner and less likely to be diabetic.

Source right fucking now.

I'd bet my house this is not only impossible to prove but dead wrong.

>>11002456
i want to lick that tummy

>>11002359
>Reminder that sugar...immediately prevents excess sugar consumption.
hmm

>>11002854
It does not spike your reward centers like fat does

>>11001375
Humans as we know them today have evolved to ear fruit, of course! That's why we have:
>Forward facing eyes
>Canine teeth
>Persistence hunting stamina

When you pretentiously tell people to "read a book" are you talking about the fiction you like to read?

>>11002542
I asked for proof that bacon is addictive and all you can find is a bacon eating competition. Thanks for proving my point. Carbs are addictive, as evidenced by the fact that people will gorge themselves on their favorite carbs for no other reward than the eating itself. Protein and fat are not addictive.

>>11003235
Fat spikes cck and leptin which are both satiety hormones - they make you feel full. If sugar prevented excess sugar consumption then you would not see so many fatties chugging their 48oz big gulps.

>>11004577
When i eat pork rinds it looks like the world is going to end.

>>11000989
>eating fat makes you fat

The 70s is call and you are idiot