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>I deserve $15 an hour for this

>> No.10891221

please make these threads bannable, or at the very least give him a time out

>> No.10891233

Sage, report, and hide.

>> No.10891249
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10891249

>I deserve a country without brown people

>> No.10891274

>>10891213
You deserve a living wage if you're working full time. Why should the capitalists enrich themselves on the labor of people actually fucking working?

>> No.10891289
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>>10891213

>i deserve to exist

>> No.10891296

>>10891249
LMAO

>> No.10891302

>>10891213
*$15 an hour plus tip

>> No.10891316

>>10891274
Then do a real full time job.

Railroads are tossing $20,000 hiring bonuses at people. To work jobs that pay 75 to 125k a year. No education needed.

>> No.10891325

>>10891213
eesburche

>> No.10891328

>>10891316
Yeah fucking where? Flyoverland?

>> No.10891333

>>10891316
Get out of you straight white male bubble, dude. Most poor people can't do that kind of work.

>> No.10891337

>>10891328
If you aren't willing to move to Wyoming. Then you dont deserve to have a decent career.

>> No.10891340

>>10891337
Yeah, let me pack up the children and relatives I support and scrape up the money for a cross country move to a place where I have no community or roots.

>> No.10891343

>>10891333
I work with a 120 pound woman switching cars in the yard. She can pick up and replace 80 pound knuckles just as well as my 220 pounds can.

>> No.10891349

>>10891340
Pretty much this

>> No.10891355

>>10891340
>I want to sit here and get a well paying job dropped into my lap with 0 effort on my part
keep dreaming and stay poor bud

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>>10891213
>>10891221
>>10891233
>>10891249
Three replies in and reddit is already seething.

>> No.10891361

>>10891328
>Why can't I support myself?
>Spends $50 a day on haute food
>$2000 a month on rent
You deserve poverty.

>> No.10891366

>>10891340
Not sure if bait, but people do this all the time, all over the world. Some of them start out with even less than the average low-income American. Most of you ancestors probably did it. And moving to a different state in the same country isn't as drastic as moving to a whole new country.

>> No.10891367

>>10891340
Many of my coworkers did just that

>> No.10891373

>>10891274
no one deserves shit, you earn it, and the thought of unskilled labor making the same money as paramedics is fucking disgusting

>> No.10891386

>>10891361
Fuck no I don't spend money on food like that, nor is my rent that high

>> No.10891394

>>10891340
Who said it would be easy? Don't complain about lack of opportunity then reject one that comes to you because it's too hard.

>> No.10891416

>>10891316
yes goy destroy your body for us making money that you'll spend on healthcare costs when you're 50

>> No.10891451

>>10891373
So shouldn't paramedics also get a raise?

>> No.10891472

>>10891451
probably, but that doesn't mean skilless labor should be fifteen an hour. not when it's as easy as walking into any trade union filling out some paperwork, and taking a test, to get a paid aprenticeship and free schooling for said trade

>> No.10891481

>>10891472
Trade Unions are hotbeds of Communist activity.

>> No.10891486

>>10891472
This is the most retarded post ever-there are waiting lists for every skilled trade union in America. Even during the oil boom you had to have a decent amount of experience to get a skilled job in Dakota.

>> No.10891489

>>10891486
In Europe the are making people work for free to get training.

>> No.10891495

>>10891489
That's called an internship in America. Aka the exploitation of poor people by capitalists for free labor with the very slim chance of being hired. It's modern day indentured servitude.

>> No.10891497

>>10891481
then either join the military or live with yo parents or some shit like that till you get a real job. fast food jobs are meant for highschoolers, and they have no need of a living wage. the only other people who work fast food who deserve a living wage are the handicapped and retired, both of whom get monies from the gubment but the gubment won't give them enough to live on plus they have a need to feel like they're doing something constructive


>>10891486
oh boo fucking hoo, so you gotta wait in line for a good opportunity, that's because your dumb, impatient ass is the only one who can't see it's a good opportunity

>> No.10891498

>>10891481
and that's a good thing. except that in reality unions are full of bigoted nationalists in the US. not that anyone in this thread would have a clue about what a union is actually like.

>> No.10891505

>>10891489
yeah, they're called internships and they happen everywhere

>> No.10891507

>>10891495
I dunno about you, but every internship I've ever had was paid. Very well paid, actually.

>>indentured
lolwhut? If you don't like it, then go work elsewhere. There's no indenture (contract) with unpaid internships.

>> No.10891509

>>10891373
I make 60k a year doing fuck all in a warehouse :^)

>> No.10891510

>>10891498
Larping as a socialist really is the easiest way to rile up soyboy 'vark posters.

>> No.10891513

>>10891274
Protip: Every person is paid exactly what they're worth, which includes factors like how much pay your peers are accepting. If you want more pay, talk to your employer rather than being a whimpering child who cries to daddy government.

If the common pay of your peers is keeping your pay low, then bargain collectively.
Its not complicated.

>> No.10891515

>>10891507
>need experience for job
>only available relevant experience at entry level is unpaid internship

Don't know why I'm bothering with this post because boomers are literally incapable of imagining that other people's experiences and opportunities are different from their own.

>> No.10891522

>>10891451
that's exactly how inflation happens, which makes the original minimum wage increase meaningless.
> January 1, minimum wage goes up
> so does my rent
> my spending money stays exactly the same
minimum wage increases hurt people on fixed incomes (seniors and disabled)

>> No.10891529

>>10891513
>he doesn't know about discrimination, prejudice or systemic racism.

>> No.10891530

>>10891451
If you give everybody a raise, then you diminish the buying power of everybody's money, which leaves everyone back where they started.

If you can honestly tell me, "Why not just raise the minimum wage to $500/hr?", then you have your answer for "Why not 15/hr?".

>> No.10891531

>>10891416
I have excellent health insurance through the railroad. The pension is better than social security. It isnt that demanding on your body.

>> No.10891532

>>10891513
I really thought I was over getting mad at this website but fuck it is hard for me to swallow that people this sheltered are so cocksure about their inane drivel.

>> No.10891535

>>10891529
>He thinks descrimination, prejudice, and systemic racism are anything but memes

>> No.10891545

>>10891532
>Basically argue that unions are the way to raise pay rather than arbitrary laws
>Lefties froth
Are you really this dumb, or did you not read the whole post? (Or maybe you don't know what "collective bargaining" is in the first place?)

>> No.10891554

>>10891530
Isn't it fairly obvious to anyone who isn't a child that, just as some people deserve wages, some people are making more money than they have earned?

>> No.10891562

>>10891274
because the capitalist gets sued when unskilled labor causes a kitchen fire, or salmonella outbreak. For every successful restuarant, there's 10 gordon ramsey's kitchen nightmares that went out of business. no risk no reward.

>> No.10891564

>>10891554
*deserve raises, not wages

>> No.10891567

>>10891554
Sure. But what makes you, I, or anyone else qualified to decide who those overpaid people are?

Capitalism is far from perfect, but the market answers that question far more fairly and efficiently than any other system ever has.

>> No.10891574

>>10891340
your choice, don't complain about it

>> No.10891575

>>10891554
And that concerns you, why? Do you just hate people with more money than you? Children do this when one child has more of x than another child. "Whahh, it's not fair, xe has more than I do. Mommy, it's not faaaaiiiirrr!!!!"

>> No.10891585

>>10891554
You are attempting to judge "what a worker is worth" by objective means.
Economic value is always subjective. The product is ALWAYS worth what people are willing to pay for it.

As a worker, your product is your productivity. If you are one out of a billion interchangeable no-skill workers, of course you're not worth much money.
Similarly, the idea that executives and such are overpaid is based upon the common conceit that, "I could do that job, no problem. Why don't I get that kind of pay?", but this is an overestimation of your abilities.

Now, if you want to talk about childish attitudes, how about living your life in a constant state of envy towards the wealthy while never doing anything to fix your own situation?
Doesn't that seem childish?

>> No.10891594

>>10891545
You're sheltered because you assume that everyone has the right, in practice, to collectively bargain. Most low wage employees, first off, have never been presented with the idea of joining a union if one even exists and is active for their job in their area, and secondly don't have the time and education to research how to go about joining one, let alone starting one. So to say everyone gets paid exactly what they're worth is just flat out delusional. What people like you fail to realize is that how this shit, unions and worker protections, are supposed to work and how it works in the real world for uneducated minority workers are not the same.

>> No.10891596

>>10891567
It's not about being qualified. It's about admitting that condescending towards poor, unskilled laborers is completely arbitrary when there are plenty of wealthy, unskilled laborers to be angry about.

>> No.10891603

>>10891575
I'm comfortably middle class, so there's no personal interest here from me. I'm just pointing out that you're doing that silly American thing where you get angry at poor people who want to eat, when you could just as easily be angry at the wealthy for eating too much.

>> No.10891612

>>10891515
consider yourself lucky getting job training for FREE then. Compare it to going $70k in debt of student loans.

>> No.10891622

>>10891585
You've misunderstood my post, or I've misrepresented my purpose.

I'm criticizing idea that wages and "what a worker is worth" are anything other than arbitrary distractions from the heart of the issue. Minimum wage isn't about the value of labor.

>> No.10891626

>>10891594
>You need a union to collectively bargain
This tragic lack of self-sufficiency on your part is why you don't get paid well.

However, you're correct in that its possible that a work environment is simply not conducive to collective bargaining (i.e. the other staff are simply unwilling), but this comes back again to the quality of the worker.
If you are so useless that a corporation could simply fire its entire staff rather than let them unionize, then the problem comes back (again) to your value as a worker.

>> No.10891630

>>10891594
>So to say everyone gets paid exactly what they're worth is just flat out delusional
Your own post describes how this is not true.

A worker whose education is so low that xe is unaware of what unions are is indeed worth less than one who knows that. Likewise, a worker who is so busy or otherwise disadvantaged to the point that they cannot research something new on their spare time is also worth less than the alternative.

Let me ask you a question. Suppose you're responsible for hiring a new employee. You're looking at two candidates with identical resumes, except one of them "is too busy to do much outside of work" while the other is actively educating him/herself during their spare time. Which of the two do you think would be the better employee?

>> No.10891632

>>10891213
fast food was the easiest fucking job I've ever worked in my life, but the amount those fuckers make per person earning 15 dollars would still leave a huge bottom line for the owners.

Doesn't mean they deserve it.

>> No.10891633

McCarthy was right. Pinko commie scum have infested every facet of American society and need to excised becore their malignancy can spread to healthy minds. Sadly, it may already be too late.

>> No.10891637

>>10891603
>when you could just as easily be angry at the wealthy for eating too much.
What makes you think the two are mutually exclusive? Just because we're talking about the former doesn't mean we don't share your concern about the latter.

>> No.10891639

>>10891529
cash is king.
nobody who pays an above-market rate for the sake of racism is going to stay in business for long.

>> No.10891640

>>10891622
>Minimum wage isn't about the value of labor.
True. However, a "living" minimum wage has the same larger problem as communism:
If the lowest of the low-skill workers is making a "good living" in spite of his indolence, what incentive does he have to advance himself?

Economic growth is built upon ambition, and wherever you remove inequality, you also suppress ambition.

>> No.10891643

>>10891340
You don't pack shit, you leave and send the money and make bank until you can either move your wife/kids, or fucking die working fast food.

Retard.

>> No.10891657

>>10891640
>If the lowest of the low-skill workers is making a "good living" in spite of his indolence, what incentive does he have to advance himself?
This ignores the cases of children born into wealthy families who have no need to ever lift a finger. They have no incentive to advance themselves, but that doesn't stop them from doing it. There are hundreds of tech companies, nonprofits, etc. started by rich kids who had no economic incentive, but still chose to advance themselves.

There are ways to create ambition that aren't financial incentives.

>> No.10891658

>>10891626
You realize that unskilled labor positions exist because the jobs need to be done, right? A corporation isn't hiring people to fill these positions for charity, it's so they can make money off of their labor. So the people that fill these positions, by definition and the nature of the job, are unskilled. Low skill =\= low quality, or importance. So you aren't fucking useless for doing a job that a corporation needs to have done in order to function. And not having leverage to bargain doesn't make you a low quality worker, it means that your coworkers are likely afraid of retaliation because they can't take afford to risk losing their livelihood.

>> No.10891664

>>10891637
Take a look around America and tell me these two attitudes are not functionally exclusive.

>> No.10891666

>>10891554
That's a private matter between the worker and employeer, and should not be subject to government interference.

>> No.10891672

>>10891356
>muh garbage

>> No.10891675

>>10891596
Everybody knows that it's abitrary. News flash: life isn't fair. Some people are born with 10/10 bodies and no health problems. Others are born dead. Some people are born crazy intelligent. Other people are incapable of learning to speak. Yes, the world is arbitrary and unfair. The problem is there is no solution to this problem that doesn't fuck things up even worse.

Even in a communist "utopia" distinctions exist. Even if we conveniently ignore the gentic lottery, there's still the social one. You think that the average Chinese or Russian peasant farmer had a similar lifestyle to one of the party bigwigs even though everyone is theoretically the same?

>> No.10891679

>>10891486
First hand experience speaking
No you didn’t
Unless you quote my time working in grocery stores and retail banking

>> No.10891685

>>10891664
>Take a look around America and tell me these two attitudes are not functionally exclusive.
I've lived here for 36 years. People are constantly bitching about how rich people waste money on silly/frivolous things. Yet that doesn't stop idiots from blowing their paycheck on booze and cigs while posting online (using the current model Iphone) about how they can't afford rent and how they NEED a minimum wage hike.

>> No.10891687

>>10891675
Nothing about this post is reflective of anything else going on in this thread.

>> No.10891689

>>10891594
tell that to the uneducated steel workers who invented unions in the 1870s, or the illiterate mexican immigrant farmhands in the 1950s.

>> No.10891693

>>10891630
I mean, from the perspective of a capitalist, a worker that has no education to seek out solutions to collectively bargain, and no education to look for better opportunities, has no leverage to demand better pay or working conditions. So they would be a better value.

I work as an auditor and I go to some really shitty warehouses. A lot of these people hire homeless people from out of state or illegal immigrants precisely because they have no leverage to complain about their shitty working conditions. If they start getting lippy they get fired and replaced. And when you have kids and are working 60+ hour work weeks, you don't have time to "increase your value" even if you could afford it.

>> No.10891698

>>10891685
My point was that the people bitching about rich people wasting money are not the same as the people bitching about poor people wanting more money (when these attitudes become politicized).

>> No.10891701
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>fucking moochers!

>> No.10891707

>>10891689
Yeah, but you have to take political climate into account as well. If you're illegal, fucking forget it. And the culture is, for the most part, very anti union in general.

>> No.10891709

>>10891596
>>10891603
we hate them too, but that's a different thread.

>> No.10891716

>>10891693
>So they would be a better value.
Depends entirely on the job. For the lowest unskilled labor? Sure. For any position where skill and education matter? That's a different story. And remember that a lot of companies hire/promote from within. There are countless examples of people who joined a business with an entry-level job and ended up with high positions.

>> No.10891721

>>10891698
I bitch about both.

>> No.10891722

>>10891657
tell that to all the neets in mom's basement

>> No.10891726

>>10891675
This isn't right. If everyone isn't as ugly or miserable as I am then the system is corrupt and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt in my image because only I am wise and fair enough to envision a workable utopia.

>> No.10891727

>>10891701
McDon Corleone

>> No.10891733

>>10891693
Oh yeah, and wanna know why I'm the auditor with salary and benefits and they're the (less than) minimum wage laborers? Because my white parents invested in a college fund before I was even born while they probably grew up on food stamps or on the streets, or dropped out of school under the age of 10 to work on the family farm in Mexico. Even playing field, right?

>> No.10891735

>>10891658
you're right that low skill =/= low importance. it's your near-infinite replaceability that makes your time have low value.

>> No.10891741

>>10891657
>This ignores the cases of children born into wealthy families who have no need to ever lift a finger.
Sure, those exist, but they are rare cases.

Human greed is a powerful thing. Why choose to fight it when we can harness it instead? Especially when we can see throughout history that attempts at fighting it always fail, whereas harnessing it has brought about more advancements than anything else has?

>>There are ways to create ambition that aren't financial incentives.
Absolutely yes. But they aren't anywhere near as efficient, easy, or as effective as financial ones.

>> No.10891744

>>10891716
The lowest unskilled labor is what we were talking about. And to your "countless examples," the vast majority of people will die in the same economic class they were born into. That's just the bottom line.

>> No.10891746

>>10891741
Found the Jew.

>> No.10891759

>>10891744
>The lowest unskilled labor is what we were talking about
That's what you are talking about. I'm talking about jobs in general. All of them.

>> the vast majority of people will die in the same economic class they were born into
I'm not denying that at all. I'm just saying that if I'm hiring some dude to sweep the floors in my warehouse I'm always going to pick the guy who shows potential and MIGHT be able to to take a step up from that job. If he does, great. If he doesn't, no biggie.

>> No.10891770

>>10891693
unionizing decreases replaceability, that's whole point of going on strike. their fault for not seeing it.

>> No.10891776

>>10891733
So how do propose leveling the playing field, Mao?

>> No.10891778

>>10891759
Okay. I'm concerned about the material conditions of the working class. My problem with your attitude is that it does absolutely nothing to improve them.

>> No.10891779

>>10891698
we bitch less about the rich because we already have progressive taxes.

>> No.10891793 [DELETED] 

>>10891213

Butthurt wagie detected

>> No.10891799

>>10891707
except what you said is false because a bunch of those immigrants were illegal.

>> No.10891801

>>10891770
what state do you live in? because I can tell you that in Virginia I have literally never seen a single person in any class even mention a union, and I've spent time at farms and warehouses literally all over the state. I 100% agree with you that workers should organize, but the political climate is EXTREMELY hostile to them.

>> No.10891806

>>10891741
>But they aren't anywhere near as efficient, easy, or as effective as financial ones.
This efficiency, ease, and efficacy is only operative in a value system that treats human beings as cogs in an economic wheel. I completely agree that capitalism is a great way to motivate people to work, and has been responsible for more material advancement than any other system. Where I disagree is in placing these things above human dignity and expression, among others. The things that make human life worth living are devalued. We should not be comfortable with this.

>> No.10891810

>>10891778
>My problem with your attitude is that it does absolutely nothing to improve them.
You've got to be kidding me. Capitalism has gotten is to the point where even a "poor" person can afford to have other people cook for him, a car, a place to live, and all sorts of silly toys including the latest and greatest mobile phone. That seems pretty damn nice compared to starving to death with my fellow Comrade farmers.

I don't deny that the working class faces hardships, but I don't know of any system which will have them face fewer or less significant ones.

>> No.10891817

>>10891799
Yeah...WERE. That shot don't fly anymore.

>> No.10891821

>>10891316
first of all, source

second you'd only able to put up with that for a few years before it took a toll on your mental state and body. You'd probably work like 60-70hrs a week doing manual labor.


My advice is to find an entry level office job. It's great experience and a great way to move up. I got hired as a human resources assistant with no degree, only a few years of school.

>13.50/hr full time (work as much as i want) and im just doing this until school starts again in the fall.

Luckily my parents cover my rent which is about $650 each between me and my roommate, but i pay utilities, gas, car inusrance etc. But still if i went slightly above and beyond for a consistent period of time at my job id get a raise no problem. Too bad they let me just fuck around whenever i get my work done.

>> No.10891826

>>10891733
> parents improving life of children
> this is BAD and shameful situation
white guilt everybody
if you want to level the playing field, then tell your parents to adopt a nigger baby and abort your sorry ass.
> niggers just pop out another aids baby instead of using condoms.

>> No.10891830

>mcdonalds doesnt pay enough to workers
>they go on welfare
>now i have to pay them with my tax money
FUCK MCDONALDS

>> No.10891831

>>10891810
So basically what you're saying is that because some poor people can afford a few small luxuries they should be content with selling the hours of their life for a fraction of the value that their labor yields? And then still likely end up with crippling medical debt?

>> No.10891836

>>10891806
>Where I disagree is in placing these things above human dignity and expression, among others
Agreed. Though I fail to see how capitalism necessarily does this? And how any other system is necessarily better?

The communist system is the antithesis of individuality and expression since it strives to eliminate options in favor of more efficiency. I.e. in Mao's China you had no choice regarding what clothes to wear--those were issued to you. You had no choice what music to listen to--that was all propaganda shit and foreign music was banned, and so on.

>> No.10891841

>>10891778
Poor people in the US aren't even fucking poor. They're lazy and uneducated spend more time whining and complaining about perceived injustices than actually doing anything about improving their lot in life. It's never their fault that their lives suck, there's always a sinister force lurking in the background just waiting to kick the ladder out from under you.
t. raised by stupid single mother on welfare in the projects

>> No.10891842

>>10891826
>white
>still can't read properly

Really makes ya think

>> No.10891848

>>10891831
I don't think they should be content with anything. I think they can make their life into whatever they choose to make it.

>>crippling medical debt
That's their decision. I can't speak for everyone, but I can easily afford my own health insurance. It's simply a matter of prioritizing needs over wants. I cover costs like food, rent, and insurance before I think about spending money on booze or toys.

>> No.10891855

>>10891801
commiefornia, where the gub gibs instead. my position is that politics should have nothing to do with business.

>> No.10891866

>>10891596
sorry but the ability to network and be personable are in fact skills

>> No.10891873

>>10891836
>I fail to see how capitalism necessarily does this?
It's been a common criticism of capitalism since before Marx. The most efficient capitalists will make their workers work the longest possible hours at the lowest possible wages while charging the highest possible prices. This leads to a system where human life is only as valuable as the labor it produces.

I certainly don't view communism as a viable alternative. The problem is that this kind of discourse always devolves into "capitalism is better than communism," as if those are the only two options. It's a way of ignoring the problem.

>> No.10891874

>>10891622
>hurr only manual labor involves effort

>> No.10891880

>>10891630
the one who's too busy. good work ethic and not likely to leave for a better job anytime soon

>> No.10891883

>>10891873
>as if those are the only two options. It's a way of ignoring the problem.
Feel free to suggest an alternative then, I'm all ears. I didn't mean to shoehorn you into the commie box, I'm just in the dark here. you're offering criticism but no alternatives.

>> No.10891889

>>10891325
nice!

>> No.10891897

>>10891880
>good work ethic
Where are you concluding that from?
Remember, resumes are identical. The only logical conclusion is that the "busy" person is horrible with managing their time and/or prioritizes education lower than anything else.

>> No.10891900

>>10891866
Being personable is an unfair trait to base hiring on because some people just lack social skills. Like Asians. That's why Harvard began to consider personality in the admissions process as a way to admit more non-asians (blacks) over Asian candidates with higher GPAs and admission test scores.

>> No.10891902

>>10891883
I thought minimum wage itself was his suggestion. It inspires all the "oh no, commies!" criticism, without actually deviating too far from capitalism.

>> No.10891910

>>10891866
>>10891874
Nobody else mentioned networking or manual labor. You guys sure you're in the right thread?

>> No.10891964

>>10891883
For starters, Increase the Earn Income Tax Credit, peg state minimum wages to lagged 5 year productivity gains, and increase federal investment in early childhood education.

>> No.10891970

WOW I SURE DO LOVE DISCUSSING FOOD AND COOKING IN THIS THREAD ON THE FOOD AND COOKING BOARD

>> No.10891973

>>10891497
>fast food jobs are meant for highschoolers
According to who? God?

Pretty sure they're meant for whoever will do them.

>> No.10891986

>>10891973
and it's also what's known as an entry-level position, you're not supposed to get paid $15 hour for punching in orders that the back is inevitably gonna fuck up anyways
Learn to take an order and care about your job before saying everyone deserves $15 for a McJob

>> No.10891990

>>10891986
Did McBurger Bell mess up your order again? Take a deep breath. It will be okay.

>> No.10891997

>>10891990
Yet you think they deserve a living wage for being a walking talking waste of air? You're fucking delusional
I bet your a baristafag

>> No.10892004

>>10891986
>you're not supposed to
According to who? God?

>> No.10892011

>>10892004
According to how the fucking world is kid, sorry but you don't matter and the world isn't going to bend over for you
Learn to adapt or shut the fuck up

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>>10892011
>According to how the fucking world is kid
Ah, yes, the "this is how it works and we should never strive for anything better" personality type.

>> No.10892043

>>10891821
My dad used to work for Canadian National and aside the pay it was shit and most of his coworkers weren't exactly the kind of people who would live long healthy lives. I don't think ever told me of someone reaching the government tier pension. He got in few accident so he ended up in the only comfy job in CN which was operating a turning bridge.

>> No.10892051

>>10892025
The only way to get better is to actually get better, giving people something for nothing doesn't spur innovation, it creates dependencies
Someone who works at McDonald's is neither an innovator nor do they have any kind of tangible skill you stand around all day taking orders and punching them into a terminal
Baristas are the fucjing worst little entitiled shits I've ever seen, they think they should be making bartender wages for making shitty coffee
Get an actual tangible skill that makes you a valuable asset, working at a McJob does neither

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>>10892051

>> No.10892057

>>10892055
t. Butt lasted burger flipper
Get a real job you fucking hippie

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>>10892057
>everyone can work to get a better job
>this is a totally realistic expectation
>even though there aren't enough better jobs for everyone
>and if there were, and everyone could get one, there would then be no one to work mcjobs
>i am very clever in my resolve!

>> No.10892079

>>10892051
This, there's no good reason to pay artificially inflated wages to unskilled labor.

>> No.10892083

like they used to say in the ussr
>you pretend to pay me I pretend to work

>> No.10892086
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>>10892070
>I didn't take school seriously
>internships? Fuck that
>I should be entitled to higher wage than I'm worth because I say so!
This is why your movement will never gain traction, you are spoiled children who only want immediate gratification and don't take the long term effects into the equation
You are destined to fail as you always have

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>>10892086
>ignores the argument
>argues against a straw man instead
>"heh, that'll show him"

>> No.10892111

>>10892101
>ignored the argument
Like what you did? I provided my points, you stuck your fingers in your ears like the brat you are and said uh uh

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>>10892111

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>>10892115

>> No.10892143

Can't wait for robots to replace retarded minimum wage workers

>> No.10892146

>>10892143
Same. Automation is going to be the best thing to happen to mankind.

>> No.10892152

>>10892143
What do you do that's so irreplaceable?

>> No.10892165

>>10892152
Shills hot sauce on an anonymous image board.

>> No.10892175

>>10892165
kek

>> No.10892179

>>10892152
Run a construction company

>> No.10892197

>>10892179
Yeah completely irreplaceable. Good for you kid you will never be replaced.

>> No.10892206

>>10891233
Sage just stops you from bumping the thread, and does nothing to hurt the thread. Why do you idiots treat it as some sort of downvote?

>> No.10892214

>>10892197
The grunts get replaced by technology, not the people running things.

>> No.10892219

>>10892214
Whatever you think kiddo.

>> No.10892220

>>10891343
That's a load of bullshit and only a retard would believe it. At least make up a decent lie.

>> No.10892228

>>10892011
>all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds
t. Pangloss

>> No.10892229

>>10892219
So you think when someone wants to build a home or fix something they are going to hire a fucking robot anytime soon?

>> No.10892243

>>10891343

no one believes you because that's not how things work.

>> No.10892273

>>10892229
Yes in my lifetime.

>> No.10892289

>>10892273
They might exist in terms of one-off demonstrations but there are far too many variables involved for manual construction labor to disappear in the next century.

There is no job on earth where robots have entirely replaced human labor.

>> No.10892295

>>10892229
Unless you are the biggest construction company on the block you will eventually be priced out by a multinational that can afford more and better robots than you. Bad luck.

>> No.10892318

>>10892295
At that point my option would be to go in a different direction, or whine that I deserve X amount of money.

>> No.10892335

>>10892295
That argument is no different from some guy in 1800 stating that you will eventually be priced out buy a guy who can afford a bigger steam engine than you.

>> No.10892400

>>10892289
>There is no job on earth where robots have entirely replaced human labor.
Imagine actually believing this.

>> No.10892459

>>10891316
i apply at the rail road every fucking year and they never hire me
what the hell?

>> No.10892547

>>10891249
Jfc

>> No.10892555

>>10891532
Just inbred Alabama conservatives that have literally no idea how the world works

>> No.10892566

>>10891821
These kind of posts ALWAYS end with the "parents pay my rent/car insurance/etc".
Fuck off and die

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10892568

lol angsty teen communist scum itt

>> No.10892764

McDonald's only pays 9.50 an hour around here. Even if you become a manager you don't make over 11. (The janitor at my job works there part time)

>> No.10892786

>>10892568
>commie
>libtard
your insults stopped being effective in the 50s

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>>10891233
>>10891221
>>10891249
>>10891274
>>10891289
>>10891333
>>10891328
>>10891340
Get a real job lmao genuinely pathetic

>> No.10892796

>>10891316
>>10891316
I'm gonna need a link right now. I'd move to Wyonowhere for that.

>> No.10892798

>>10892786
>dat edge
Anything else you want to parrot your community college teacher about?

>> No.10893003

>>10891498
UWUA forever!

>> No.10893054

>>10891451
Don't paramedics make like 100k a year?

>> No.10893100

>>10891486
You can still make 70k out of highschool by just goimg to the oil fields.

>> No.10893114

>>10891316
Link me to one right now and I will apply. I

>> No.10893238

I'm beginning to think that railroad 125k thing was a lie.

>> No.10893248

>>10893114
>can't even be bothered to look it up himself
you were born for failure

>> No.10893260

>>10893248
And you were born a lying homosexual. Like fathers, like son.

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>>10891213
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
>mfw you're a beta and nobody respects you

>> No.10893312

>>10891316
>manual labor

no thanks

>> No.10893359

>>10891213
OP is an enormous faggot and anyone that is serving him should be making $30/hr as adequate compensation.