/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10873820
Yeah, not a fan of whole grain pasta myself either, but I'd put up with it for a cute girlfriend like her because I'm desperately lonely and it's been too long since I dated so now I'm too awkward to get back into it and I expect I'll live in lonely misery for another 35 years and then die.

When I was a kid it was always wholegrain anything all the time with my mother.

>>10873846
How's your health ? because I have never met anyone eating whole grain since childhood.

I wonder if it really does anything in a long term

>>10873827
>Kate will never cook breakie for you

>>10873861
Brekkie has two ks and no a.

>>10873861
>>10873864

>>10873820
>any true health benefits beyond meme dieting
>getting fat as fuck and fast

yeah, no.

>>10873852
>wonder if it really does anything in a long term
Kept my muscle mass even when I never work out much.

>>10873820
Whole grain breads and cereals are fine, they have enough time to soak up liquid so the bran softens. The time it takes for pasta to finish cooking isn't long enough for the bran to soften though which is why whole grain pasta is awful. Maybe if you soaked it in cold water until it was mostly hydrated, then cooked it for a couple minutes, it'd be okay.

I think whole grain stuff tastes better most of the time, it has more flavor and a better texture. I love brown rice but can't stand white rice.

>>10873820
She doubles as cutting board lmao

>>10873820
I buy whole grain everything for the taste...

>>10873965
>wanting a unitasker wife

>I've had my fun and now I'm ready for a nice stable guy like you

Similar thing, I can't stand brown rice tastes like cardboard too.

>>10874000
brown rice became completely inedible to me after i found jasmine rice desu

>>10874005
Jasmine is definitely the master rice.
I buy it in 5-kilo bags from ethnics.

>>10874000
U wot? brown rice has a lot more flavor than white rice. Just takes longer to cook. Brown short grain rice is my go-to for making rice with bacon and peas.

>>10874009
The purple rice that I often see labelled as superfood is also pretty damn good, especially with butter but I haven't been able to find it in bulk yet

Jasmine rice made with either chicken stock or tea remains the GOAT, though.

Fun fact: all the cultures spawning the people with the longest average lifespan with good health in late life universally enjoy a diet including roughly 0% whole grain. They also universally enjoy a diet rich in a large variety of fruits and vegetables.

By contrast, people from cultures which greatly value whole grains over refined, such as Slavs, average about 5 years shorter lifespan than those which do not. They also don't value a diet rich with various fruits and vegetables.

The benefits of whole grain v refined grain are minimal and can easily be offset by having some beans or a fucking salad every now and again.
If you like whole grains, eat them. But if not, don't torture yourself shoving them down your gullet because the benefits are borderline nonexistant.

Now, to answer your question: short of oats, burghul, freek, rye bread and occasionally a sack of barley, no. I like those things every so often so I buy those things every so often. Whole wheat braid tastes like shit. Brown rice tastes like shit. And pastas/noodles made from whole grains taste like shit.

>>10874051
I also dislike whole-wheat-y hair. Whole wheat bread can suck a shit, too.

>>10874051
Anon I think the slavs have other dietary issues than whole grain, and other issues that could be contributing to a (relatively inextreme) statistical lifespan decrease.

My mother used to be a health nut and forced me to eat a bunch of shit when I was a child
>chunks of raw garlic
>honey with raw onion
>spoons of flaxseed
>chunks of raw ginger
>maca powder
>whole grain brown rice
I also wasn't allowed to drink soda or anything with msg such as instant ramen. She was also a terrible cook, microwaved plain potatoes with microwaved cheap hot dogs were a common meal. Every other meal was over seasoned and half frozen half burnt. She's a good woman but damn

>>10873820
why do all women have fat arms?

>>10873820
Wholewheat pasta is many times more flavourful than those bland offerings made from bleached white 00. As is the case with anything made from whole grain vice it's processed cousin.

>>10873820
>Tumblr nose

>>10874139
They don't, you just have a fucked up image of how women are supposed to look because you look at too much hentai.

>>10874266
>>10874139

Are you guys this ugly that you need to pull these tricks?

>>10874266
What even is "tumblr nose"? I know jew nose and nigger nose, but what the fuck does that even mean?

>>10874005
You can get brown jasmine rice

>>10873861
>lesbian cut
>showing bottom teeth when smiling

>>10873820

Yep, I like the taste and fiber's good for you. Eaten it since I was a kid.

>>10874051

>Equating poor, shitty countries with wholegrain

Nordics disagree with you. Slavic countries are a poor example and your generalization is without a good causal link.

>>10874137
I fuckin loved flax seed for some reason when I was 12. Used to actually eat spoonfuls of it lol

>>10873820
>>10873861
put a spoiler on these
jesus christ

>>10873820
>"Here honey, we are buying whole grain pasta, it's good for us!"
That line fits too well with her "happy with myself and my choices" face. Willing to bet her husband doesn't have a word to say in that household.
>"Ok, dear." *gives wallet*

>>10874137
I always thought health nuts are really good at cooking because they know what's good for the body, am i wrong ?

>>10874280
>>10874281
>>10874293
>maximus triggerus
calm down purple hairs, no need to get this upset.

>>10874450
I will do anything to be that soyboy just for one night

>>10873820
>grains

>>10873820
Where did her tits go

>>10873894
>Eating mayo by the spoonful
Goodness

>>10873820
>honey
>implying id date a girl with no tits

>>10874280
Bro it's not cartoons she has ham hawk biceps they are flabby and it's gross would still fuck her until my balls were dry though because I love flat chested girls

>>10874517
>girl

>>10874051
>Whole wheat braid tastes like shit. Brown rice tastes like shit.
fucking tastelet holy shit
I bet you cut the crust off your shitty white bread too

>>10874486
Yeah you are alot follow meme diets and don't know jack shit about food beyond what Oprah or soccermom bloggers tell them is the truth.

???

>>10874534
who even knows anymore, this world is shit. i just fuck my hand instead

>>10874543
Is your hand female?

>>10874540
beautiful profiterole too pure for this world

>>10873820
>That red nose
Is she completely shitfaced in that photo?

>>10874546
who knows anymore, maybe it has gender dysphoria idk

>>10874543
I fuck my hand
I make it cum

>>10874553
Why even care. Only thing that matters is if it turns you on or not.

>>10874517
>implying anyone will date a basement dweller

>>10873820
WHO the FUCK is this girl. she is gorgeous

>>10874626
>t. No tits roastie

>>10873820
>Put that shit back whole grain pasta tastes like shit meet me in the spice meet me in the spice aisle so I can snap the pics of you flashing your tits in the store, you did leave your panties in the car like a good girl right?
Seriously though whole grain isn't that terrible the blends (54% whole grain!) are absolutely atrocious I honestly never knew pasta could taste so awful

>>10873820
I buy whole grain pasta.

It’s more forgiving to cook (it doesn’t go from al dente to mush if you don’t take it out on the second it’s done).

It’s also doesn’t stick together like white pasta. But you need more sauce because the pasta itself has more flavor than the refined flour kind.

>>10874281
>tricks
someone's self conscience about their fat as fuck arms

>>10874654
>current year
>having arms

wew lad

>>10874000
>>10874005
>>10874009
>>10874010
>>10874019
Jasmine rice can be brown too. I love the taste and chewy texture of brown rice but it takes a lot longer to cook than white rice. Whole grain pasta takes a few minutes longer to cook but not vastly different amounts of time.

That said, red rice, black rice, basmati rice and Japanese rice are all delicious. Black or red rice can be boiled with a can of coconut milk and some sugar for a very easy rice pudding that tastes amazing and has a wonderful texture.

>>10874137
That sounds atrocious to do to a kid - I wouldn’t want to eat those things as an adult minus the brown rice. I don’t know what maca powder is like to speak for or against it. But that said, if she made you eat all those things for health, why would she give you hot dogs?

>>10873820
Who are you? Where's my wife?

>>10874676
I love wholegrain pasta and brown (non-milled) rice's, but fuck the red Thai rice from Golden Diamond.
Tastes like mush.

By the way, only black sticky rice can turn to pudding. The other black rice (like riceberry) aren't glutinous.

>>10873820
literally who actually eats pasta and bread products? Just eat brown rice that's all you need

>>10873827
Are you fucking stupid? You must be if you know you'll be unhappy but refuse to do shit about it. Get out there and try your best, even if you don't end up with a whole grain gf at least you'll have done something mildly interesting with your squandered life.

>>10873820
>implying I have a gf

>>10874676
I've been trying to get into brown rice because it's more filling and healthy, but I always get the chewy hard result, I try to soak them for 30 min before cooking, but the texture is just strange.

Any tips?

Also I can't seems to get into whole grain bread, they get dry super fast even in the bag when brought from store. I assume they are best not using it as is, but like butter one side and heat it in a frying pan first?

>>10874770
Obviously soak it, but make sure you give it a rinse before you cook it. Also, cook it a bit longer and use more water. Are you using a rice cooker? Those usually have brown rice settings.
Also, maybe your brand of rice is just shit. Try a different brand of brown rice, especially if you're using generic "brown rice" and not brown jasmine rice.

>>10874514
I'm sure he replaced it with pudding. Not that it's much better if he actually ate a whole jar of pudding.

>>10874770
How are you cooking it? Brown rice is a little tricker to do because of how much longer it takes to cook so if your heat isn't at the perfect setting it won't come out right. I just do it in the microwave actually, it's easier and actually takes less time. 1 cup brown rice + 3.5 cups water, cooked for 35 minutes then let it sit for 15 minutes to finish absorbing water. That's for an 800 watt microwave so you might have to adjust the time.

Whole grain breads can be a little drier because the bran absorbs more water though, try freezing it while it's still as fresh as possible and then thawing it as needed.

>>10874788
I soak them before cooking them on stove, 1:2.25 ratio. 20 min cooking and off heat 10 min. At least that's what most tutorial told me to

I haven't thought about using more water and longer time, I'll give that a try thanks

>>10874514
based vlaming

>>10873820
My gf buys into it.

I do a little but carb overload is carb overload. Whole grain is just less shitty for you.

>>10874970
Yeah 20 minutes isn't really long enough for brown rice, most instructions I've always seen say 45

>>10874986
Your gf is a roastie cunt desperate for any sort of validation who has literally zero mind of her own. I hope she gets a bad case of poison ivy

>>10873820
whenever im at my mothers she cooks using whole grain pasta and i find it to be more rubbery,

whople grain spaghetti seems almost springy, try to spin it around your fork and it just unravels

>>10874501
They were never implanted.

>>10873820
I eat wholegrain pasta 2 out of 3 times. Tastes mostly the same and is healthier, so why not.

>>10874137
Worth it for the soda ban alone. That saved you a lot of trouble.

>>10874750
I'm better off alone, it's just that if I wasn't and had a gf, such minor trifles as her whole grain preference wouldn't matter at all

>>10873820

It's all about the brand for me. I like some whole grain especially for heavy sauces with a lot of parm, or cream. I like veg pastas too. Plain semolina pastas especially for larger rigatonis are the best though. I'll easily drop a few extra bucks on these. But a lot of plain semolina brands just turn to paste too.

Just gotta find your brand.

>>10873820
is she wearing just an apron?

At least it's not gluten free pasta.
Bought that once by accidents because the package looked similar.
Shit fell apart when I mixed in the sauce which should have tipped me off. Tasted like absolute ass, that's when I looked at the package. Stuff was mostly chickpeas & corn.

>>10875481
>can't recognize a dress

>>10874526 that means your gay

>>10875481
yes she is chef Boyardees niece

>>10873820
>reverse image search
>nothing
>really mad now

>>10875612
read the thread retardo

>>10874139
Muscular arms are attractive tbqh, no I'm not gay

>>10874281
Using this cancerous forced meme reflects 10x more poorly on you than the crassest misogyny

>>10874051
>The benefits of whole grain v refined grain are minimal and can easily be offset by having some beans or a fucking salad every now and again.
>every now and again
You’re deluded

>>10875612
stop sucking at searching

>>10875765
Dumbass, those all belong to this thread

>>10873820
I like whole grain pasta, it has more fiber and makes me have better poops

but the window between undercooked and overcooked is smaller than with white pasta. so its mroe often fucked up

>>10874137
>health nut
>terrible cook

i'm sorry anon

>>10875612
You can do it newfag

They have anti nutrients.

>>10876047
Happens to me on brown rice too, fucked up and wasted several times to get the good result, perhaps try with some cheaper brands first?

>>10874137
>health nut
>hotdogs

>>10873820
She should iron that 'dress' or whatever that silly shit with front pockets is.

>>10876058
What does this even mean? Will they annihilate upon contact with normal nutrients?

>>10876085
It's called linen dummy. That's one of its characteristic

>>10876030
>#foodbags
>cyrillic writing
>this thread
>hurrr there's no results!

>>10876225
That Russian site is full of virus

>>10874266
???

>>10875595
But I don't like penis, I like giving girls nipple orgasms though and it's easier with flat chested girls

>>10876151
It means there are some things our body lacks enzymes to break down they 'coat' the nutrients we do have enzymes for so our body doesn't absorb the nutrients

>>10875612
based floridians

>>10876299
stupid cuck boomer

>>10876309

>>10874137
hows ur health now? are you /fit/?

>>10876336
>t. Doesn't know anything about nutrition

I'll bet you think raw veganism is the healthiest diet

>>10876326
>Thinks a nipple fetish is a cuckolding fetish
Why do /pol/tards project their repugnant fantasy on everyone else? Why are they such repressed homosexuals?

>>10876425
calm down sv3rige bro, I am a healthy omnivore.
I just have not read anything about what you're speaking of, all I can imagine are magical lipids that seek out the protagonist nutrients that our bile salts can't break down for some reason.

>>10876425
there is no such thing as a healthy diet

get the right amount of nutrients and you're good to go, you won't get any benefits from certain special foods or whatever, you only get the negative effects from eating too much/too little - meaning that you can eat either a proper diet or an unhealthy diet

once you eat roughly what you're supposed to, other factors outside of nutrition matter more; exercise, environment, exposure to pathogens, genetics

>>10876441
>likes giving women orgasms
>not a cuck

lol

>>10873820
i like her tiny titties

>>10874526
>>10876874
>>10876299

>>10876449
Don't remember where I learned about them as it was awhile ago but I remember the studies talked about raw eggs in particular (there was an article that mentioned the scene in Rocky and how his body just got cholesterol and salmonella from drinking the raw eggs) and I believe raw cashews once the oil is cleaned off of them are practically pure carbs unless they are roasted due to antinutrients it is an umbrella term in food science I think for just anything that prevents our body from absorbing a nutrient we can absorb from something after the cooking process.
>>10876471
Proper diet=healthy diet it semantics

>>10873820
I'd almost consider dating a white woman if she looked like that.

>>10876892
>Likes titties
>Must be gay

>>10873861
>brekkie

>>10876058
the anti-nutrients in whole grains are inconsequential

>>10874366
Fun fact #1: of the top five countries with the longest average lifespans, not one is Scandie (or """"""Nordic,""""" as you put it). And all of them prefer eschew whole grains outright.
Fun fact #2: if we increase it to the top 10 countries, only two are Scandie, neither of which is Norway. And the other 8 overwhelmingly prefer refined grains v whole grains.
Fun fact #3: if we extend the list to include all four of the Scandie nations (Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Danmark), it has to go allllllll the way down to #28 to get them all in there. And the other 24 all overwhelmingly prefer refined grains v whole grains.

>>10875737
>you're deluded
Except I'm not. Evidence seems to imply that diets heavy with whole grains aren't nearly as good as diets eating refined grains with a large variety of fruits and vegetables. Furthermore, of the world's five blue zones (microcultures which live the longest on earth, including Adventist vegetarians, Sardegnans and others), only one doesn't eat refined grain in heavy quantity (instead, they eat yams/sweet potatoes as their primary carb source).

>>10876971
So are the nutrients in the first place. : )

>>10876901
>Preferring girls without tits

>>10877328
>diets heavy with whole grains aren't nearly as good as diets eating refined grains with a large variety of fruits and vegetables
That's kind of a dumb comparison. You should be comparing diets that are mostly the same except for the refined and whole grains. And a diet heavy in refined grains will have nutritional deficiencies compared to the one with whole grains, so you can make up the difference elsewhere but you're still missing out on some nutrition.

Those countries probably also eat more refined grains because it's better for long-term storage to refine them since the oils in the bran are what can go rancid.

>>10877331
If you're going to go with that kind of thinking, then nothing is really nutritious or important because you can always get it in other foods too.

>>10877428
>You should be comparing diets that are mostly the same except for the refined and whole grains.
Dude, what?

>>10873820
who is this semen demon?

>>10877438
Comparing a diet with refined grains and lots of fruit and vegetables to a diet with lots of whole grains and little fruit and veg is bad when trying to assess the nutrition of grains because there are too many other differences.

>>10873820
aww, sweetie, don't you remember our leaky gut syndrome discussion?

>>10876378
I got cancer unironically

>>10877328
>durr Sardinia is part of Italy so dey eat pasta all da time

You're a joke and you're wrong about everything.

>The classic Sardinian diet consists of whole-grain bread, beans, garden vegetables, fruits, and, in some parts of the island, mastic oil.

https://www.bluezones.com/exploration/sardinia-italy/

>In terms of meals Ikarians typically have a late morning breakfast comprised of goat’s milk, yogurt and or cheese, fruits, herbal tea or coffee, whole grain bread and local honey.

http://www.island-ikaria.com/about-ikaria/Ikarian-Food-Diet

>Eating whole wheat bread (versus white bread) reduced non-fatal heart attack risk by 45 percent.

https://ucdintegrativemedicine.com/2017/05/living-long-loma-linda/

>>10877509
>Eating whole wheat bread (versus white bread) reduced non-fatal heart attack risk by 45 percent.
>t. literal vetrinarian

>>10873820
It doesn't taste any different to me than any other pasta. Pasta doesn't really have a distinct taste imo. It seems more like the carb-bedding for the protein and sauce than something that is supposed to add 'flavor'. Most pasta dishes are basically soups that add pasta.

>>10877509
>culturally isolated

I find this one interesting. The whole "who fucking cares what happens to the outside world" attidute makes for some really strong community bonds.

>>10875144
There are worse sugary beverages his dumb mother likely permitted.

>>10877411
Fuck off reddit

>>10874051
if anything slavs only living 5 years less (though my specific slav country is actually 2 years above USA) is suprising, considering how rampant alcoholism and eating just meat is
if we're doing science by just mashing some data we vaguely remember and coming to wild conclusions, then whole grain keeps slavs alive despite their best efforts and is some kinda miracle food
my point is you're a moron

>>10876085
"Naked apron." It's actually a fairly major fetish in japan.

I fucking love ancient grain pasta. Can't eat white shit, tastes like sticky worms.

>>10878662
You're a woman, aren't you?

>>10878674
Male, 24.

>>10878681
Same thing these days.

>>10878686
yeah

>>10873820
Just started eating brown rice. Pretty good. The only disadvantage is that I can't use chopsticks (I live in Japan) to eat it since it doesn't stick together like white rice.

I watched an interview with a rice farmer and he was explaining that brown rice requires less work for the producers since you don't need to polish it, but it ends up a bit more expensive due to the lower demand.

>>10874005
>>10874009
>>10874676
Never heard of Jasmine. Might try later.

>>10878705
>a bit more expensive due to the lower demand.

Uh, what? It's more expensive because it's food for diet-conscious rich people.

>>10878733
Might be another motive besides that one. But it isn't that much more expensive. At least here in Japan.

>>10874750
Fuck off back to plebbit

>>10878739
>At least here in Japan.
Could it be...

>>10873820
I fucking hate whole grain and never buy it. It has fiber though so if you're some kind of degenerate that doesn't eat your vegetables you could use the whole grain.

>>10874000
You need to cook it out longer. I use a rice cooker and just add more water than i do for white rice. Brown rice is actually sweeter and goes well with a can of beans dumped into it.

>>10877643
He's right. Liking flat chested girls is a gay withdrawal.
First you'll like flat chested girls,
Then you'll like tomboys,
Then you'll like traps
Then before you know it you'll be sucking dicks on grindr barbecues.

>>10878764
>Then before you know it you'll be sucking dicks on grindr barbecues.
You say this like it's a bad thing.

>>10873965
>>10873982
God damn it

>>10878764
>not liking flat chested girls, tomboys, and traps
What a faggot.

>>10874491
So would I, it's just being that soyboy for life that's the problem.

>whole wheat baguette

Fucking retarded concept.

>>10873827
Cuck.

>>10878957
You rang?

>>10878959
No, but it's nice to see pleople owning up to their flaws.

>>10873949
That makes no sense

>>10873827
>putting up with anything you don't like because of muh vagina
I honestly think you'd be less miserable dying alone

>>10874280
>>10874281
ROASTIE ROASTIE OH SO TOASTY

>>10878764
>Like smaller breasts
>Next thing you know you will be become an insatiable cock mongrel

>>10879142
According to 4chan even the slightest compromise in a relationship is a deal breaker

>>10878764
big tittied tomboys are objectively the best don't even fucking try to argue this

>>10879177
>Cameraman getting his own reflection in the shot

>>10873820

Wholegrain pasta is a waste of time - the flavour and texture is significantly worse in exchange for a very small increase in fibre.

If you want a 'healthy' alternative to pasta, you're better off going for red lentil or bean pasta. At least you get a lot of protein that way.

Wholegrain mustard is good

>>10873827
Everyone mocks you but deep down they know you speak the truth

>>10879403

>>10879312
>I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

>>10874353
It's called a pixie cut you uncultured fuck

>>10877509
wut
i am sardegnan. i never in my life see whole grain bread as something common. we do not eat it much at all. in fact i do not think we eat it any. maybe they are translating wrong hard wheat flour as whole wheat flour? we use the hard wheat or the semolina wheat flour for our bread, not the whole wheat flour.

Who is this slag?

>>10874137
I'm sorry dude, but your mother is not a good woman. If she was she would have put some effort into learning how to cook.

>>10873827
And this post is the reason you're going to be a sad cunt. Women don't want to date a unconfident loser, they want someone they can rely on / laugh with when they're "in need" themselves.

>>10879848
I thought women were strong, independent and don't need no man

I usually eat whole wheat or grain cause I’m not a fan of bleached grains and the shit companies add to white bread and pasta. Hell I mostly even make my own pasta out of zucchini whenever I can.

>>10873820
"No we're not. That shit shrinks your titties."

>>10873820
>t. mommy never makes me tendies

Short grain brown rice is way more chewy, nutty, and flavorful than any other kind of rice, while not being bitter or gritty like other whole grain products sometimes are. If you don't like it there's something wrong with you.

>>10873820
only if she fries them desu

>>10879177
it'd be pretty funny to see her try to fight against a dude that could actually bring himself to try to fight back

>>10880117
naievity incarnate

>>10874651
>>10873820

I think wholegrain pasta is ok, but damn it takes forever to cook.

>>10873820
I think whole grain pasta is really good with pesto, otherwise it's awful.

>>10873820
Is she only wearing an apron?

>>10880369
No

But I'd like to imagine that

>>10880393
It's not a stretch, it really looks like it's just an apron.

>>10878744
Ken-sama died in the 2011 Earthquake.

>>10880465
There has never been proof

>>10880393
It's too large for hadaka apron.

The part at the upper front should be no wider than the straps, that way when she moves the edge will rub against her nipples as it constantly exposes/covers them up. Also needs a big frilly bow in the back.

>>10873871
A nu

>>10874353
>lesbian cut
get out of your mom's basement kid

>>10880471
Just let him go, Anon.

>>10880117
>>10874540

>>10881978

>>10881985
If she ever got pregnant her kid would starve desu

>>10881992
who is this semen demon?

>>10881985
>zéro déchet
Absolutely gay shirt

>>10881992
>>10881985
>>10881978
>>10876055
>>10873820

>>10881992
but that is simply wrong

what would happen is she'd end up with flapjacks after ceasing breastfeeding

>>10879878
That's why you're a retard.

>>10873827
>tfw I have been on my first date at 26
It was pretty awful lol.

>>10873997
Meanwhile sadbois over here never had any fun

>>10876299
>I like giving girls nipple orgasms
What?

>>10874137
>was forced to consume maga power
>now loves trump

I wonder if there is a correlation...

>>10879305
because people on 4chan pretend to know what relationships are like

>>10881872
Everyone can claimed that on Google, her wife never say they live in japan

>>10873846
when I was a kid, my mom always bought skim milk. I didn't taste 2% until I was about 10 at a friends house and I thought is was the best shit.

>>10874137
>mother used to be a health
>microwaved cheap hot dogs were a common meal

How does this even make sense?

>>10880117
Why do you hate women?

>>10880117
My favorite thing about modern TV shows is that the female characters get into fights and that means you can sometimes watch them getting beaten up

Some shows are practically unwatchable except for having hot chicks getting beaten up sometimes, which basically is enough to keep me watching

>>10884494
being a health freak is the same as being retarded