/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Who cares about health. Being vegan just makes you better than everyone else. Unironically.

>>10753067
the poblem with most diets is that people who manage to stick to a diet and loose a significant amount of weight go back to eating and gain it all back
it doesnt matter if you manage to diet for two weeks because you didnt really put in the effort but you have people who loose hundreds of pounds and then gain it all back and at that point you cant blame it on them being lazy and stupid
there is a big psychological element to obesity, food cant be adictive but yyour brain can be fucked enough that you eat food like a drug addict consumes drugs, its a bigger problem when its a life long problem (which is most cases) there are lots of active people who practice sports either proffessionally or as a hobby that get older and put weight because of the way they are used to eat

>>10753110
Women at my office were all about the "Whole 30 diet." It's a 30 fucking day diet. They all ate really well for 30 days and then that was it. What's the point?

>>10753086
Fuck off Todd.

>>10753067
Stuffing your face one seventh of the time is probably bad for your health and voids any kind of ethical stand you think you're making with your diet. The best way to enjoy your food is not to talk about yourself all the fucking time anyway, restrictive diet or not.

>>10753110
The real problem with dieting is that it just dont work

>>10753117
Shouldnt they have uh, restarted over the next month or something? Women are dumb as fuck so not surprised. Easier to complain that other women should get fat too than work to better themselves

>>10753117
not what i was talking about
>>10753143
but it does

>>10753161
I dieted for 3 weeks and i actually gained weight

>>10753067
But i thought the vegans cared abo....

>>10753192
Did you eat a bunch of shit labled "non fat" or something?

>>10753067
People get burnt out. Gotta sharpen the saw, as they say.

Honestly, every time I have tried to lose a few pounds on a really restrictive diet I end up gaining the weight back. Calorie counting is so much easier once you get a handle on logging everything and you can still eat everything you want in moderation.

>>10753067
If it works, it works.

>>10753067
seems like a decent idea

>>10753192
Probably because you were on a terrible diet. All else being equal, putting less energy into your body = you lose weight. It's that simple and not really up for debate.

>>10753206
I did everything your suppose to do
I switched to diet soda.I didn't put salt on my food. I ate lean cuisines instead of hot pockets and hungry man dinners. , I stopped eating dessert after lunch and dinner and only ate dessert as a midnight snack before I went to sleep so I wouldn't go to bed starving. None of it worked

>>10753243
did you count your calories?

>>10753067
Cheat day keeps your metabolism from slowing down on a low-calorie diet, so it makes sense once in a while.

Cheat day on a diet for ethical reasons sounds pretty fucking stupid though.

>>10753253
I didn't count them because thats to much to do when Im hungry but I did estimate the calories. I ate around 2500 a day.

>>10753243
I can't tell if this is satire

>>10753161
not what i was talking about

>>10753067
cheat days help stop your metabolism crashing

>>10753110
Also just lowing calorie intake doesn't really deal with insulin resistance, the main cause of obesity. For that you need reduced insulin over a longer period of time, so intermittent fasting or low carb, to help increase insulin sensitivity

>>10753117
Same. About 2 months ago it was the 30 diet that was hot with the women. No beer but all this vegan food was ok. Not sure what happened at the 30 day end

>>10753243
>I stopped eating dessert after lunch and dinner and only ate dessert as a midnight snack before I went to sleep so I wouldn't go to bed starving

>Americans are so fat they can't go 8 hours without food

>>10753117
Its /supposed/ to make you change your eating habits, get you eating less processed crap and more whole foods. The women in your office are thots that spent the whole thing like an fatty who gave up twinkies for lent. They had no interest in getting healthier at any point in those 30 days.

>>10753263
So you're going for a +200 lb lifestyle?

>>10753358
thats not thing for every obese person

>>10753434
Not every obese person, but if you've been obese for 5+ years then you're almost certainly on that path

>>10753067
>a study has shown
What did they look at a population of ten diabetic ethiopians or something?

>>10753243
3/10, got some retards

>>10753419
If you're a man and you're below 200lbs you're probably a manlet

Dieting is fucking retarded. Unless you specifically need to do a diet because a doctor told you to, there is literally no reason to "diet" in anyway that isn't just eating any and all food groups.

Eat meat, eat fat, eat carbs, and so on. Don't go crazy and eat only fats and only sugars and shit, but just eat a balanced diet of all food groups, is it really that fucking hard?

I am disgusted that people think "dieting" is somehow bad or to be ashamed of.

I've never been fat in my life, I have a 30 inch waist, a 38 inch chest, and chiseled abs, and I'm unashamed to admit that I will actively deny myself some kind of delicious, nutritionally unhelpful pastry for breakfast on a regular basis (there are some amazing spots near my office), and I regularly think about my macros. I enjoy the pastries a few times a week, and I enjoy other desserts from time to time as long as they are high quality. For example this morning for breakfast I had a kouign-amann made by an A-list pastry chef (he's not obscure, you definitely have heard of him if you give a shit about food, although I know most of you don't). For dinner I am having sauteed green vegetables with pecorino, and another protein shake. It's give and take. Obviously, when I am not shoveling 900 calories worth of butter and sugar down my throat at breakfast, I have more leeway with dinner.

I am not on a cut at the moment, I have nothing against desserts, although I refuse to eat low quality snacks (anything mass produced). If I'm blowing my TDEE it had damm well better be worth it. I also enjoy high quality alcoholic beverages even though they contribute nothing to my physique, but only in moderation. Point is, I am always "on a diet". There is literally nothing wrong with diets. It's like being on a budget, but for food. Being on a budget doesn't mean eating sawdust and cat food, it just means not blowing money on more Enzo Bonafe when the shoes I have will suffice.

I think it is crazy that people are supposed to be ashamed to care what they look like. I also spend a lot of money on fine clothes and getting them tailored just right, what's the point of not looking great? You might as well kill yourself. 100% unironic post here but I'm gonna post the toddler hipster because I know how this sounds on this website of all places.

>>10753586
t.obese, misshapen Mark Rippetoe victim

>>10753110
This. I've been fat as long as I can remember, and now I have to limit myself to 1700 calories per day just to stay sort of chubby. One month of normal eating and I'll turn back to the kid my brother used to bully ;_;

>>10753684
t.

>>10753712
>implying I would ever defile my body with tattoos
My opinions resemble those of a far left moonbat until it comes to disgusting "expressions of individuality", that includes piercings on women other than the earlobes, any piercings on men whatsoever, tattoos of any kind, or other body mutilations. I work hard to look amazing, that thing is as pitiable as a subway rat but I have more empathy for the rat.

>>10753684
>a 30 inch waist, a 38 inch chest

Yeah, you're a manlet. Everyone you meet is LAUGHING at the insane autism you have over your diet, your workout obsession, and your preening. It's COPE

>>10753726
>{thing} is autism
When 4chan says this, I know I'm doing something right.

>>10753737
OK big guy. I'm sure everyone you work with is impressed at how well you fill out a Small shirt.

>>10753750
I wear a children's size large

>>10753750
I don't wear shirts sized "small/medium/large" to work, because I'm not in construction or sanitation.

I've lurked >>>/fit/ long enough for the term cheat day to instantly cause be revulsion. You fat fucks are only allowed cheat meals, not days!

>>10753684
>I've never been fat in my life, I have a 30 inch waist,

choose one chubby

>>10753712
>toxic masculinity

>>10753704
>One month of normal eating
1700 calories a day is normal eating

what is 'cheat day'? oh yeah, you're too weak willed to just enjoy a bit of something. you feel like you deserve to 'pig out'!

if you like soda, why not plan for it in your daily food intake, and just enjoy a single small one? if you like gas station taquitos, why not pick ONE up on your lunch break?

why do you either have to abstain or eat until you vomit? that's a very unhealthy relationship with food!

>>10753773
32" is hungry skeleton unless you are a woman

>>10753762
You are correct. Healthy eating should be the norm and allowing yourself one meal a week to indulgence is all you should do. It's honestly not difficult as long as you cook all your meals and try to avoid processed garbage. Most people really don't seem to care about their health and appearance or taking the time and work to improve either one.

>>10753812
I'm 6'1, I'd hope I'd be allowed 2000 with no major repercussions

>>10753067
Moderation is a good thing, shocking I know.

>>10753947
Most people binge eat on their cheat days because you have to make up for going 6 or more days without real food.
t. Vegan with experience

>>10753117
Whole 30 isn't bad but if you lack the self discipline to continue anything it teaches, it won't work.
That's every diet tho.

>>10753684
Because food is the only thing that makes me happy
And not only eating it, making it brings me a lot of joy, sometimes I go to the supermarket and buy a ton of beef if it is on sale and I out it all in the freezer and I look at it and think of all the things I can make, sometimes j splurge on all sort of spices and fancy ingredients and I can't afford anything else for the month, I take hours to make a meal because I try to get everything perfect and k cook for people every chance I get
Maybe you have better things to do than eat, I dont that's the life I live, nothing else I have ever tried has brought me anything but pain, people have certainly been he me way too much pain
If it means being unhealthy, if it means being gross, if it means hurting myself I don't care, why would I give up the only thing in life I enjoy?

>>10754081
Your post is self defeating.

>>10753086
I'm meat eater but agree with this unironically

>>10753067
Cheat days are good so long as the other 6 days you're really excersizing and eating well. You still eat 'well' on the other 6 days, things like chicken eggs steak rice potatoes etc but on a cheat day that's when you have deep fried foods, dessert, fries, beer, milkshakes, etc. again, you just have to make sure you're eating well and excersizing during the week or else it won't feel as good

>>10753067
Every diet book since 1970 has had a cheat day. It's insane that these "scientists" get our fucking soda tax dollars.

>>10753067
Here's my rule for any article with infamous bs line "scientists now say" or "recent study shows".
1. it must link the article DOI or ISBN or what ever, if it doesn't its worthless.
2. The When I read the scientific article it must lead to the same conclusions. Some journalist isn't qualified to deduce conclusions on their own, that's how the "taste bud sections of the tounge" myth started.
3. if the article is too complex to read, there's a REALLY good chance that the journalist is bs, the odds are if I can't understand it, some journalist can't understand it.

>>10754152
No one cares what you think you dumb soygoy redditor

>>10754123
>you can’t cook unless you are fat

>>10754181
I never fucking said that

>>10754196
You heavily implied it

>>10754300
>heavily
Lel

>>10754300
No, for me personally loosing weight would mean that I don't get to cook for a long time or I can't make anything beyond boiled chicken and salad because I'm really fucking fat, I never meant it as a board statement I was talking about myself

Where all my cronuts at?

>Rare and Appropriate

>>10753067
Cheat days only work if you're doing a diet that makes you miserable and is unsustainable in the long term.

>>10754344
That's why most vegans and vegetarians have a cheat day.

Or you could follow our bodies design and do intermittent fasting.

>>10754613
And drink your own piss

>>10754614
Huh?

>>10753067
I've lost 35 kilos so far having a pseudo cheat weekend. Basically I've eaten about 500-1000 under my goal calories per day monday-thursday. Which saves up about 3000-4000 calories for the weekend. I can use that to make some really calorie dense meals and eat snacks without going over my weekly goal.

It's made it way easier than earlier times I've tried because there's no feeling of "Now I can't binge ever again" every time I start. Instead I can just look forward to all kinds of tasty foodstuff during the weekend.

>>10753145
And again - that is just so integral to their short-sightedness. This "LOWER THE BAR!" mentality will only land them flat on their face once they realize that if fat and ugly become the new "beautiful", then in-shape and pretty will become the new ULTRA-BEAUTIFUL, and the dynamic will stay the same. They want to make it so that the standards of beauty lead to men being more attracted to larger-bodied women than smaller-bodied women, but then go on a tirade about how they don't just want to be fetishized for their bodies. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU CAN'T HAVE LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU WANT AT ONCE OR SOMETHING

You have more success just accepting good, healthy food into your diet and eating a really small treat every day or every other day. There are low calorie treats that are easy to fit in. If you think skinny people don't eat burgers or chocolate then you're actually retarded.

>>10753067
I never had a problem with maintaining a healthy weight and I'm almost 28 years old now. I always had a six pack even when I ate junk and drank heavily. And I've never been particularly dillegent with my workouts (though I always did some form of physical activity). So when people talk about how much they struggle with their weight and come up with all these meme reasons to excuse why they're fat it all seems so foreign to me. "Oh I know what the problem is, it's that I didn't have a cheat day! DUH!!!". It's so retarded, really. Maybe stop eating yourself to death you dumb bitch, and do some light reading on the conservation of energy while you're at it.

>>10753067
Overriding your natural eating habits is a constant expenditure of willpower. If I didn't let myself not eat myself sick every once in a while I'd stay a skeleton forever

>>10753067
This applies to anyone, because in nature you arent supposed to eat exactly 1900 calories everyday or be able to lose a consist amount of weight over a 90 period because you decidee you wanna be 15lbs lighter to fit in a dress. Your body hasnt the slightest idea what you want out of it, which it tells you through hunger and common sense, so obviously giving it what it needs to function properly is your best bet. Which wouldn’t be a problem if you listen to it by not doing something retarded like paleo vegna atkins low carb whatever.

>>10753067
Cheat meals can help stay motivated, but you don't need motivation when you have determination.

You still lose weight faster when you have no "cheat days", and even then, I remember a long time ago when we would talk about "cheat meals". Won't be long before "cheat weekends" become a thing.

Myself lost 30kg on a so-called "keto" diet with zero cheat meals.

>>10753067
People think it's "I eat healthy for a few years, exercise, lose the weight, then I go back to doing what I was before." The reality is you do all that - and you never stop. That's why all these people "fail" at "diets." It's not a diet, it's a lifestyle change. It's why "dieting" never works becuase people view it as temporary. If you want to be fit and healthy, you have to change your life and not just your diet. If you go back to doing what you did before, you'll look like what you did before.

>>10753086
I'm a true vegan
I disagree with this

tfw on my cheat year

>>10753943
Being 6' 1" doesn't mean anything. Some people who are 6' 1" have an optimal walking weight of 150 pounds and some are 240 pounds.

>>10754919
That isn't how physics work, newfag.

>>10754919
Most people most importantly fail to realize their idea of a "regular diet" is shit. The "weight loss diets" are the true regular diets, anything else makes you fat.

>>10754316
or do a meat/fish only diet, eat as much as you want, and still lose weight

>>10754926
>tfw my cheat life is about to end

>>10753067
I vaguely recollect a 90s B pommy sketch comedy with a sketch about a diet plan where some fat guy ate whatever he wanted once a week. I would have link a YouTube link of it right here if I could remember what it was. Trust me, it would have been funny.

>>10753067
Ketogenic diet basically regulate your hormones so you'll feel less hungry so you don't need cheat day.
The only times I cheat keto when my noisy aunt served me carbs

>fatties lack self control

big if true

>>10753198
>begans caring about anything other than their own self importance

>>10753586
This is the male version of bragging about your big tits. You think you sound attractive but you just sound obese

>>10756221
If you're a guy and you weigh under 200lb you're a lanklet or a manlet

t. Girl

I've been losing weight past couple of months and I'm not really sure I get what the whole dieting is all about. Why do people struggle with it so much? I'm probably doing it somehow wrong, naturally, and I couldn't keep this up the same way forever, but I haven't really struggled with keeping losing weight or had any issues with craving/wanting to stop at all. It's one of the easiest and most lazy things I have done in my entire life.

>>10757377
>t. girl who is definitely under 200lb

Who knew /ck/ was /nutrifit/

>>10758035
I'm 5'5" and I weigh 105lb, tubby. :3

>>10753067
well strict daily calorie limits are a bit silly since you have a bit of leeway and can eat a load on one day and not so much on the next
it balances things out

>>10753067
face palm. I would hate to see this persons facebook page.

>>10759146
jfc eat something

>>10753067
I eat meat like once a week.

>>10759512
Your bf's cock doesn't count

>>10753067
>A recent scientific study has found that.
literally marketing lines.
Fuck off

>>10753086
>being a literal soyboy.

>>10760759
>being a soyposter

>>10754811
>liking women with tits, thighs and ass is a result of propaganda

Well consider me propagandized

>>10753086
>vegans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZneYxAjOsc

>>10753086
Veganism is an eating disorder.

>>10762541
This is sadly true

>>10753684
can you record a video of you reading your post and then post that?

>>10754913
>I remember a long time ago when we would talk about "cheat meals". Won't be long before "cheat weekends" become a thing.
This is what caused me to plateau last time I tried to lose weight. To be fair, I did end up plateauing just 20 pounds above my goal, and haven't gained weight again, but my once a week meal became all weekend, and then I would cheat once throughout the week too.