/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10656702
‘vark and ‘deenz

>>10656702
How is the best, most versatile method of coffee making (costing no more than $30) a meme?

>>10656702
Copper pans. Should have just stuck with cast iron.

>>10656828
French press is cheaper and better

>>10656868
French press can make one style of coffee (two if you include cold brew). Aeropress is far more versatile in terms of brewing.

fucking bullshit ass sucking plastic trash

>>10656702
Yeah, every time I buy a coffee machine I end up getting lazy after one time using it and just go back to buying coffee from dunkin donuts or starbucks again.
I don't know how you people have the energy to keep up with self-inflicted brew-slavery.

>>10656868
lmao french press is shit, there is no comparison with an aeropress whatsoever.
the only comparable device in the same price range is a moka.
the ONLY downside of an aeropress is that it's a pain in the ass to make more than one cup, but that shouldn't be a problem for most of the anons here.

>>10657013
Calm down, Mike.

>>10657018
I get 3 pounds of ground coffee for $9. Autodrip was $15 and has lasted 5 years so far

>>10657030
Cost isn't the issue.

>>10657028
I'll boil 18 eggs and you try to stay calm after using this trash, Ike.

>>10657036
Then get a keurig even my retarded gook gf can open her slanty eyes enough to insert a tide pod and press go

>>10656702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWkmcfQdt4

>>10657027

>>10657018
Working first shift gives great encouragement to having a delicious cup of coffee. Also being surrounded by coffee shops that get fucking raided at 5:45 in the morning encourages me to make my own damn cup.

A french press with a good electric kettle can have you a full pot of coffee in 6 minutes. A keurig can get you one in two but the taste is crap.

>>10657027
Hi shill

>>10656828
the plastic melted on the one i got for my parents, the concept may be good but the product itself is crap

>>10656702
For me, it's the McChicken

>>10656828
>plastics
enjoy your autism

>>10657045
Don’t be mean to your gf anon

>>10657266
She tries to stick stuff up my butt let me be mean to her this is my only refuge

I've tried a Zojirushi rice cooker and a Vitamix blender based on /ck/ trolling. Holy shit this garbage does the same thing as a pot of water and a $30 Waring blender.

>>10657534
bad post

Aeropress is pretty good. Haven't used mine in months but I got it for free so

>>10657145
Maybe your parents shouldn't have tried heating it up on the stove

>>10656828
The cheapest and most versatile option will always be the pour over, they're $10 for a ceramic one and don't require proprietary filters or encourage retarded usage like the "upside down method"

>>10657249
>BPA and phthalate free copolyester
>muh plastic boogeyman

>>10658170
A pourover is not more versatile than aeropress though and I'm not sure how flipping it upside down for longer steep times (which isn't even necessary) is retarded. Also most pourover setups have "proprietary filters" so literally what is your point

>>10657281
I wish I had a gf to stuff things up my butt.

>>10658170
They also use 1.5x as much ground coffee to produce a brewed coffee of equivalent strength, and require an unbelievable attention to detail to get a good cup. They're fine if you're an autist and don't mind blowing through beans at an incredible rate, or a luddite who's afraid of change, but normies have transitioned to aeropress.

>>10658180
>proprietary
Which ones?
You only have 3 kinds. The flat bottom cone (melitta), basket and conical cone (eg. Hario)
None of these are limited to one manufacturer and all of them had their patents expire over 90 years ago

is butter in coffee a meme? i don't want oily shits

>>10656702
V60 is best device

>>10658186
It really doesn't take that much attention to detail whereas v60 is notoriously hard to use consistently and again you're really limited to one style of brewing whereas the aeropress gives you more options. It's not like you're forced to be autistic over it but it does give room for experimentation, why does having options trigger you so much?

>>10657336
how

>>10658201
Ok I was really only thinking of chemex so I'm wrong but it's not like the aero filters are exactly hard to come by. You never even backed up how a pourover is "most versatile"

>>10658186
This is the dumbest post I've ever read.

>>10658256
>I don't care about the outcome, I just want something I'm used to
At least we know which of the two groups you're in

>>10658268
The one that didn't buy into the aeropress marketing

>>10657028
No, fuck off.

>>10656828
It's not the best, but while it's more versatile than French press there's not much reason for me to get one. French press does multiple cups, doesn't waste paper, and prepares a brew that's just the way I like it. If I'm not using French press or an automatic drip machine, I'll just get a cup from a coffee shop. I could get a pourover setup but the time involved doesn't really save me any money than just having some hipster do it for me.

>>10657281
>She tries to stick stuff up my butt
You say that like that's a bad thing. You don't deserve her. Let me have her instead.

Drinking coffee made using a plastic container is just asking to fill your body with BPA, phytoestrogens and other harsh neurotoxins.

I just realized that I have a Japanese cod brew coffee pot. I know nothing about coffee. What type of grounds should I use to make cold brew?

>>10657568
You think I'm kidding?

Soyboi

>>10656702

>>10658329
>>10658174

>>10658329
BPA isn't anywhere near as badas it was made out ot be

instead of publishing the results from his unrealistic experiments, the scientist who started it all hired a publicity group.

Not saying they're not bad, but there are a fuck of a lot worse things out there.

>>10658296
>I could get a pourover setup but the time involved doesn't really save me any money
Pourover is faster than FP

>>10658752
Not if you're doing it right.

>>10656702
the cast iron meme, i got one, cooked with it and didnt wash it like everyone said. my whole family came down with legionnaires disease after a month of cooking like this and then i washed it and it turned into a rusty pan that i threw away and my garbage men refused to take my trash because it weight like 100 lbs that week so i buried it in my backyard and now all the grass around where its buried died.

>>10658174
>All plastics don't release endocrine modifiers when heated
>He fell for the BPA-free meme
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL another one grows tits. Enjoy the transgenderism.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4063249/

>>10657013
I can eat 50 eggs

>>10658186
It's literally the opposite you absolute Keurig-drinker. Full immersion methods like the Aeropress use more ground coffee to produce the same amount of brewed coffee of equivalent strength than percolation methods like pour over or espresso, because percolation is by nature a more efficient way of extraction. Here is Matt Perger (pbuh) explaining the difference in efficiency:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RvU41meSjo

>>10658900
Anon we can only wish to be as high test as you someday by virtuously avoiding all soy and plastics. Holy are thou.

>>10659827
>huge pile of unsubstantiated bullshit "math" based on numbers he pulled out of his ass
>durr it's a keurig drinker
This man is a charlatan and is obviously trying to just boost his sales volume, don't be so easily fooled by random numbers flying across the screen and ask yourself where those numbers came from

>>10659899
The specific numbers may be off, but the basic premise stands. In full immersion brewing, the liquid absorbed into the spent coffee grounds is of greater strength than in percolation brewing. Therefore, when using equivalent amounts of coffee and water, there must be less of the coffee solubles in the brewed cup made by immersion brewing compared to that made with percolation.

>>10659913
Isn't aeropress both immersion and percolation? Plus the process of pressing should help to extract even more by squeezing liquid from the grounds no?

>>10659918
Yes, also forgetting the fact that aeropress grind can be finer without fucking up brew times, if you tried that in a V60 you're going to get bitter mud puddles that take all day to drip out

And cone methods like V60 or worse (chemex) have a ginormous paper surface area that absorbs a ridiculous amount of brewed coffee compared to the coin-sized aeropress filter

>>10659918
I would still classify Aeropress non-inverted method as a full immersion method, since the amount of coffee that drips through before plunging is such a small portion of the total water used for brewing. The column of air being pushed through the puck does indeed decrease water retention compared to other methods (the typical estimate for most methods is about 200% of water absorption by weight of dry coffee). According to my own testing, the water retention in the Aeropress puck is about 100% by dry weight, i.e. 20 g of ground coffee will soak up 20 g of the brewed coffee, assuming you press all the way past the hiss - which you always should, in my opinion. The benefit is still with pour over though, because even if the grounds retain more liquid, this liquid is very dilute whereas with the Aeropress the retained liquid is the same strength as the brewed coffee.

The lower the brew ratio, the greater the waste. Consider doing a "full immersion espresso" in an Aeropress with 20 grams of coffee and 60 grams of water (for a brew ratio of 3). You're going to get 60 g of brewed coffee, of which 20 g will be absorbed in the grounds and 40 g will end up in your cup. This means you end up wasting 33% of the total brewed coffee. With a more typical brew ratio of 13, about what you'd use for "normal" coffee, the 20 g of ground coffee will absorb 20 g of the total 260 g (13 x 20 g) of brewing water, leading to about 8% of the brew being wasted. A lot of Aeropress recipes involve you first brewing a very concentrated coffee which is then diluted with hot water, in which case the waste is going to be anywhere between 8-33%, depending on the ratio.

This isn't meant to be an attack on the Aeropress by the way. I think it's still probably the best full immersion method out there, but when it comes to efficiency, percolation methods always win out. There are of course some reasons to prefer full immersion anyway, like ease of brewing and evenness of extraction.

>>10656702
cooking in general

>>10659930
>Aeropress filter
>coin sized
Big fucking coins.
Retard.

>>10657027
>Moka pot
>A percolator
Don't get me wrong perked coffee is enjoyable and smells amazing, but not in the coffee snob "perfect extraction" kind of way since it tends to get too hot

>>10660024
Thank you that was really interesting and objective. If only efficiency meant more flavor, because aeropress absolutely blows pourovers out of the water in that sense.

>>10657013
what is it?