/ck/ - Food & Cooking

A porterhouse is a specific cut of a tbone.

Tenderloins get thinner as you from from the front of the loin to the back

Porterhouses come from the end of the loin where the tenderloin is thickest, T-bones come from the back end of the loin where the tenderloin gets smaller

>>10401819
me and porterhouse t-boned ur mom lol

>>10401819
I believe a T-Bone only has like a sliver of filet mignon and the porterhouse has both the whole strip and filet - like your photo.

>>10401832
the thicker part of the tenderloin is the back end

the porter house got its name because it was served in pubs (port is a type of beer)
so what was it called before that?

is porterhouse the apex steak?
i think so

>>10401868
kek no. You can't perfectly cook a porterhouse as they have two very different types of meats attached to the same bone.

It's like the faggots who say they can perfectly roast a whole chicken when everyone knows they are full of shit.

>>10401866
they come from the same bone so why are they not considered the same thing

>>10401876
you can cook one side longer or shorter than other
same with roasting a chicken you put it in a hot pan thigh side down so they get a head start then transfer it to the oven

>>10401911
>you can cook one side longer or shorter than other
not when they are attached.

>>10401913
the striploin and tenderloin aren't that different that one is completely ruined while the other is cooked perfectly

>>10401940
>striploin and tenderloin aren't that different
yeah one is fatty and they other is lean and tender, they are very fucking different.

>>10401946
they are both very lean

>>10401876
lrn2spatchcock kiddo

>>10401951
Tenderloin is more lean than sirloin.

>>10401957
but they are both very lean

>>10401958
no

>>10401961
yes

>>10401958
stop shopping at aldi

>>10401965
had to look up what aldi is
i guess countries that won WWII dont have those

>>10401905
because if you call them different cuts you can charge more for one of them

>>10401997
so theyre the same

>>10402002
they both happen to be beef

>>10402002
yes, a porterhouse is a t-bone with a large filet.

My question isnt weather or not theyre same(which they are) my question is that why do people feel the need to "correct" people who call it a t-bone(which it is). Do they think they are smart?

>>10402206
>is there actually a difference?
Difference in what?

>>10402210
iq scores and race

>>10402206
>why do people feel the need to "correct" people who call it a t-bone(which it is). Do they think they are smart?

The cat's outta the bag now. Did someone make you feel stupid when you called a t bone a porterhouse, which it *certainly is not.*

>>10402240
>which it *certainly is not.*
yes it is, both are loins with a bone and a filet.
How are they different other than size?

>>10402206
All our lives we're used to people correcting our mistakes. When we say or do something wrong our parents and school teachers correct us. So we're taught from an early age to correct mistakes.

>>Do they think they are smart?
Nope. It's simply a matter of seeing an error and correcting it. It's learned, robotic, behavior.

>>10402253
You aren't making any sense, anon.

>>10401819
anons have already answered you, but as an arbitrary thing people usually call t-bones with large fillets porterhouses.

>>10402240
>called a t-bone a porterhouse
if anything i called a ''porterhouse'' a t-bone
you would know if you would have been reading carefully and had been paying attention

>>10401836
:’D

>>10402263
but its not a mistake to call a t-bone a t-bone

>>10402276
it's ok, anon. I once called a manlet a man, but come to find out he was only 5'11"
I was so fucking embarrassed.

>>10402284
>i was so fucking embarassed
now you know how your parents feel

>>10402253
>how are they different other than size?
How else do they need to be different? Either way, a porterhouse is not a t-bone, and a porterhouse is the greatest steak in existence. I don’t care what any faggot has to say otherwise.

>>10402521
Name any other meat that is differentiated by size? I'll wait.

>>10402521
>nd a porterhouse is the greatest steak in existence
pleb tastes.

>>10402533
It’s differentiaged from the area of the cow it’s cut from, exactly as every other cut of meat is. Instead of just admitting to yourself that you’re wrong, you go on the internet and try to tell everyone else they are wrong, and you’re a colossal faggot for it.
>>10402642
>calling someone a pleb
As if I give a shit what steak reddit eats. Get fucked. Literally. Maybe then you will stop being such a faggot.

>>10402670
>It’s differentiaged from the area of the cow it’s cut from,
no it isn't. it's only from size. It's a loin and a filet just like a t-bone (and why it is a tbone)

>>10402685
If it wasn’t differentiated by where it’s cut from, you could cut it from the small side, but you can’t, so it isn’t cut from the same place. The front and the back are not the same place. Go look at your car. Ok, bad example. Go look at a car that belongs to someone who has a car. Notice how it has a front and a back? Now these ends both belong to the same car, but they are not the same, right? Because one is the front and one is the back. It’s the exact same thing for a porterhouse and a t-bone. Now stop being retarded.

has anyone here had a denver steak?

describe pls

>>10402706
No fucking regulating body differentiates a fucking porterhouse by where it's cut. It's only by size you fucking dumbass.

>>10402728
But it isn’t the same size on each end, so you can’t cut it from wherever you want, can you? Why are you trying to pretend like you are right and every butcher and chef is wrong? Are you really so fucking full of yourself? You think you’re the Stephen Hawking of steak? You’re not. Not being able to admit you are wrong doesn’t change the fact that you are wrong. Faggot

>>10402746
>But it isn’t the same size on each end
So you admit it's by size, thanks
>on each end
On each end of the SAME FUCKING THING!

Butcher here.
Generally their isn't much of a difference. They both come from the short loin primal muscle. They both have a strip and a filet. The rule of thumb is almost always the size of the filet. That being said, the steaks labeled porterhouse usually come from the far end of the short loin or the vein end of the strip. Again though, I've worked at grocery stores and restaurants and the classification comes down to whatever they want to call it and are interchangeable in a lot of ways. I've seen t bones with huge filets and porters with small ones. I worked at a grocery store for a long time and if we would have t bones on sale wed cut down an entire short loin and label the whole thing t bones. If you think a porter tastes better then a t bone you're an idiot they're the same thing, its just size.

>>10402760
One side is bigger than the other, therefore changing the cut. If it was the same, they wouldn’t be differentiated, would they? And yes, it is by size, which I never claimed otherwise. Honestly I don’t care. T-bone and porterhouse are almost always priced the same by pound. Keep ordering t-bones like a faggot and miss out on all that tenderloin. You will never get a porterhouse when you ask for a t-bone. You know why? Because a porterhouse isn’t a t-bone.

>>10402771
I never said it tastes better, it’s just the fact you get more tenderloin for the same price per pound.

>>10402786
>all this damage control
Fucking butthurt faggot.

>>10402801
>I have no argument
>time to accuse him of damage control
Nice copout

>>10402795
which is not a plus since the tenderloin is the worst portion of the cut

>>10402806
Go stare at your driveway and wonder if their are two cars out there since the front and back of the same car look different. You fucking drooling baboon.

>>10402795
Ok. But again a lot of times there isn't a difference. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Sure most of the time porters will have a bigger filet but butchers/chefs will often label either or. If you weren't the one saying "Uhhh porters are the best steak, t bones suck durr" cool. But you guys are basically arguing over skub at this point, theirs very little difference most of the time.

>>10402812
I disagree. I think it’s delicious.
>>10402822
That doesn’t even make sense, faggot.

>ITT: some assblastic loon thinks a t-bone and a porterhouse are the same thing, because cow.
If only there was some kind of online data storage and query system, where facts could be instantly retrieved whenever a question arose! Oh well, too bad we will never see such a useful system in our lives.
How did we end up in this timeline?

>>10402833
I understand what you are saying, but mislabeling a steak doesn’t change what cut it is. If I buy a porterhouse, I will know if it’s a porterhouse by looking at it. I don’t want a t-bone with a little shitty piece of tenderloin that will cook faster than the other side. I also buy my steaks from a very good butcher shop, and they don’t mislabel their steaks.

>>10402846
you mean the internet?

>>10402812
Butcher here again. Ok if you don't like filet that's fair. But its universally considered to be one of if not the best steak cut on the cow and is the most expensive. Lets not be retarded here. Pretty much no one would pick a strip over a filet.

>>10402846
>how did we end up in this timeline
Because we started giving out participation trophies. Now everyone thinks they are a winner even if they come in last place.

>>10402860
No I was thinking more like a database of *factual* information. :^)

>>10402879
>wikipedia
>factual

>>10402857
No you wouldn't lol. I most def assure you, you've bought a porter that someplace could've labeled a t bone. Especially when it gets to the middle of the short loin where the difference is unnoticeable. Which is why places label them w/e they want. As >>10402860 pointed out their the same cut. What do I know though Im just a butcher. Nothing worse then some wanna be be cuisine faggot talking about how "oh well I have my own butcher who picks my steaks out and hes the best and he lets me lick the smegma off of his foreskin".

>>10402884
Where do you see wikipedia?

>>10402896
You dumb faggot. You don't even know how to internet.
Pic related: it's what you quoted in >>10402879

>>10402892
I worked in a butcher shop as well for two years, the same one I still buy my steaks from. So what do I know, right? I mean, the best shop in town and your local grocery store chain are pretty much the same thing when it comes to beef. It’s not like I look at my steaks and pick the ones I want, because who really cares when you’re paying $13 per pound...

>>10402915
>I worked in a butcher shop
I can see why you were "let go"

>>10402908
You seem really upset, genius. Why don't you tell me how a porterhouse and a T-Bone are the same, some more.
Why do they have different names? Checkmate.

>>10402929
>Why do they have different names? Checkmate.
There are many steaks that more than one name.
You would know this if you were a butcher for more than a day before getting fired.

>ITT: bitter former butcher trawls former trolls.

>>10402923
I wasn’t let go. I finished college and began my career. They were sad to see me go. They still ask me as a joke to show the new guys how to clean the buffalo chopper. What have you done since high school?

>>10403027
>I finished college
without knowing how to use the internet?
Did your community Jr college not have access?

>>10402843
>I think it’s delicious.

that's because you have shit taste. when you want to eat a STEAK it isn't a fucking filet you reach for. a STEAK is a fucking strip. unless you're some burger cock sucker who wraps everything in bacon

>>10402862
>Pretty much no one would pick a strip over a filet.

which is why you're a fucking grocery store butcher. go figure!

>>10403043
I bet your mom has a shelf full of all your participation trophies, and every evening at the supper table she tells you how proud of you she is.

>>10403061
Your Junior college IS the fucking participation trophy, brainlet.

>>10403052
I grill my steaks over charcoal, medium rare, salt and pepper, and finished with butter. Bacon has nothing to do with steak. I like both cuts, but as I said I don’t want my tenderloin to be well done when my strip is medium rare.

>>10403071
>4 year engineering degree
>junior college
I wish I could have gotten my degree at a junior college. I have a lot more respect for people who went to junior college than I have for people like you who have done nothing with their lives and live off mommy and step-daddy.

>>10403094
>engineering
I studied maths and now I'm in the financial district 300k starting, faggot.

>>10403078
not that anon. i am >>10402812
t-bone porterhouse is a shit cut because you are wasting your money on a tenderloin which is garbage and doesn't even qualify as steak. it's a pretentious cut for nouveau rich and posers, not people who actually know what a good steak tastes like. also any butcher who trumps up a tenderloin rather than hidden jems on the cow is a fraud and grocery store flunky posing as an actual butcher.

>>10403122
>only things I have tried are good
>I’m too poor to try everything
You’re almost as bad as the other guy, if you aren’t actually him. Anyone who says a tenderloin is a shit cut has never eaten it, or has only ever eaten a piece from the lowest quality cows that are still legal to sell. It isn’t the most flavorful cut, but it’s tender and delicious, and when cooked over charcoal it has the same delicious smoky flavor as the rest of the steak, just not as much robust beef flavor. Honestly, you sound like a retard. All cuts of beef are delicious, from the chuck to the tail. Acting like one isn’t just goes to show how fucking pathetic you really are.

>>10402002
sort of. 'Cut' can have whatever level of specificity you want, including down to the exact piece of meat you buy (ie only 1 per cow), but can also be used more generally. It is a slice of the same piece of meat, but that does not make it the same cut. Even a tenderloin, which is one muscle, is sold as 3 different cuts: butt, center-cut, tail.

>>10403161
There’s no point. He will just keep plugging his ears and screaming “I’M RIGHT AND YOU’RE WRONG” until his dying breath if that’s what it takes. Logic doesn’t work on the ignorant.

>>10403149
>It isn’t the most flavorful cut, but it’s tender and delicious
You're a fucking tool
a better cut is the flatiron; it's tender and has more flavor.
Go ahead and google flatiron you tool

>>10403149
>hurrrrrr you haven't eaten iiiitttt
>yooou musst beee pooooor

it doesn't taste like anything you dumb mong. people eat STEAK because it tastes like STEAK. not like nothing. stop being a fucking pretentious retard.

>>10403170
>it's not the most flavorful but it's got other good things
>what are you talking about, here's a more flavorful cut
please leave

>>10403174
I guess you're not going to google flatiron.
Shame, thought they would have taught you what a flatiron was in butcher school.

>>10403170
I know what it is, and it is delicious. That doesn’t mean I have to get it every time. I don’t get porterhouse every time. Sometimes I buy standing rib roasts and cut my own rib steaks. What I don’t do is get strip steaks or fillets, because I can get the best of both worlds in one. Also, some people do prize tenderness over flavor, which is why people eat veal.
>>10403171
I’m not pretentious. The whole reason I defend porterhouse over t-bone is for the fact you get more tenderloin for the same price per pound. All I implied is that you have no right to say a cut is shit just because you can’t afford to eat it. A porterhouse isn’t a pretentious man’s steak. It’s the steak for men who really fucking love steak.

>>10403192
I know what a flatiron is, pal. I don't know what about my post makes you think I'm not familiar with a common cut of meat, but I was responding to the fact that you weren't even responding to what the other guy said. If you're not going to read a post, don't bother replying.

>>10403192
I’m not the butcher, and my reply was the second one. I never claimed to be a butcher. I worked in a meat shop, and I did cut many steaks, but I trimmed big cuts into roasts, and cut ribeyes. I didn’t use the bonesaw. Only the guys with their butchers certificate used it. Everyone knows what a flatiron steak is. You aren’t special.

>>10403205
>some people do prize tenderness over flavor
yeah women do weird things.

>>10403216
>>10403223
There's no fucking reason to order a tenderloin over a flatiron.

>>10403230
I literally never said there was. Neither did the other guy. And neither of us is a butcher, nor did we ever claim to be. Jesus Christ, please read the post before replying. And, to clarify, reading requires comprehension; moving your eyes over the letters is not enough.

>>10403230
You have absolutely no reading comprehension, do you? Also, there is a reason. Because a tenderloin is extremely rare in the middle, and is much more tender, and because professional chefs often make amazing sauces to go over it. A flatiron steak is a great steak, but some people want a great culinary experience, and a tenderloin is a better choice for that.

Don’t expect anyone to take you seriously when you talk about steak if you call any steak a shit cut. There’s no such thing a a shitty cut, only shitty cooks.

>>10403245
>>10403254
only fucking tools order tenderloins.
and women.

>>10403265
congrats, you got us to reply for a while. Are we done here?

>>10401991
Oh, that's why america has them I guess.

>>10403265
Only poorfags get upset about people ordering tenderloin. Personally I don’t ever order steak. If I go out to eat, I will have the salmon. I cook my own steak. I don’t want to order a giant piece of beef at a restaurant and have no room for wine and need to go home afterwards because I’m ready to pass out.

>>10403280
>Only poorfags get upset about people ordering tenderloin.
Poorfags and those who know cuts know only tools order filet.
>>10403273
yeah consider yourself educated.

>>10403294
>REEEEEEEE ONLY LIKE WHAT I LIKE
You keep saying “only women order tenderloin” but holy fuck do you ever sound like a woman...

>>10403307
You can't defend a fucking tenderloin.
it's shit.

>>10403280
HURRR PPOOOOORRR

>>10403280
>doesn't even eat steak
>doesn't even eat steak
>doesn't even eat steak

then stop interjecting in a conversation between people who actually do. when i said people eat steak because it tastes like steak that was a fucking reason. you even admit yourself that tenderloin doesn't taste like anything and that you don't even eat steak as a matter of habit. fucking moron.

>>10403340
stop samefagging

>>10403359
>accuses someone as samefagging
>only quotes 1 post

Shit, go back from whatever shithold website you came from.

>>10403340
All I said is that it has less beef flavor than a strip. I never said it’s flavorless. I think the problem is that you don’t know how to cook a steak. I also eat steak at least once a week, usually twice. Your reading comprehension is exactly what I would expect after your replies. At first I was annoyed by this thread, but your genuine stupidity has really made me enjoy it. I’m not even mad. It’s hard to be mad at a literal retard...

>>10403371
you know which posts you wrote, I don't see the point in linking them

>>10403380
I'm not even the guy you replied to, newfag.

>>10403340
Only someone who cannot cook would link “not ordering steak” with “not eating steak.” You just outed yourself.

>>10403379
No, the problem is you have one to many X chromosomes lady boi.

>>10403385
funny, because you both did the same reddit spacing. I guess all redditposters truly are interchangeable. Sorry for the confusion, but you really should go back.

>>10403397
>reddit spacing.
Only newfags comment on spacing.
Hell, even mootles used it.

>>10403394
No I just stopped reading there because your posts are TL;DR quality. Also I wouldn't give two shits about the cooking ability of someone who would suggest no one would pick a strip over a filet. Only women consider filet steak. And women can't cook steak worth a damn.

>>10403395
Oh wow, that really settles the argument. Retard

>>10403408
Fuck off tranny

>>10403402
if it doesn't matter, then why did you correct your spacing?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think we sell strip steak as porterhouse here in Ausfagland and T-bone as what you Americans call porterhouse.

>>10403402
Not him, but newfags call paragraphs reddit spacing. What you did isn’t paragraphs. It’s reddit spacing. Faggot

>>10403413
I hit the enter key whenever I fucking please.
>>10403417
Eat shit, newfag.

>>10403422
>I hit the enter key whenever I fucking please.
that's totally fine, Mr. /r/howtonotgiveafuck, I have no problem with that. I was just pointing out that it unambiguously identifies you as a reddit user

>>10403430

Reddit spacing is a newfag concept.
Congrats on outing yourself.

>>10403411
>>10403422
God damn you’re angry! You better settle down or your mom will worry! Maybe ask her to make you a nice tenderloin steak. Dumb cunt would probably cook it over propane until it’s well done tho...

>>10403442
You really don't know how to do this anonymous thing do you?

>>10403436
Only a newfriend doesn’t know that anyone here after 2006 will always be a newfag. I’m guessing you arrived in 2016 during the election.

>>10403454
came here from fark.

I'll let you look that up since it was before web2.0

>>10403452
Damn man, if I were you I wouldn’t have told us you’re just as retarded as the other guy. You fucked up...

>>10403460
Are you implying that you’re proud to be one of the first ones here and still here??

>>10403461
>you fucked up...
Why does it matter?

>>10403465
you're here forever.

>>10403466
That much more reason for guys like me to say “fuck it” and think maybe the white race isn’t worth saving and then go breed some skinny Asian or a fatass nigress with a tiny waist. It won’t be guys like you who save us...

>>10403478
I'm not your savior, faggot.

>>10403481
Obviously. You’re literally the reason why people would think we aren’t worth saving.

>>10403486
>we aren’t worth saving.
cry some more you emo faggot.

>one steak is better than the other
That’s a valid opinion
>these steaks should never be eaten and you should only eat this steak
Fuck I hate this board...

>>10401850
Porterhouse got it's name from the profession of porters. As in, "All stevedores are porters, but not all porters are stevedores."

>>10401850
Porter is beer. Port is wine.

>>10403499
>I’m running out of insults
>better call him emo now
Why wait 15 years to kill yourself when you can just do it now? It’s not like you will ever enjoy life. I don’t even want to begin trying to imagine how fat you are or how small your dick is. Your life would honestly be better if you did actually kill yourself...

>>10401876
It’s possible, where I work we do it in a fat woodfire oven. We face the new york side towards the fire which allows the filet to not cook so much. Pic related

>>10404439
The guy who wrote that doesn’t actually cook. He accused the one anon of not eating steak because he said he doesn’t order steak when he goes out and only cooks it at home. He’s retarded and nothing you can say will knock an iq point or two into his head...

>>10401819
who cares? the bone-in ribeye is the superior cut of meat.

>>10404439
>We face the new york side towards the fire which allows the filet to not cook so much.
So you don't get as good as sear on it, you are compromising one side (the filet) for the strip. Thus not perfection.

>>10401955
most def.

>>10402533
Sure. The various cuts from the tenderloin. You have the butt, center (aka tournedo), and tail (aka fillet mignon).

Besides which, why would it matter if the different names for different ends of the cut were unique? The distinction between T-bone and Porterhouse is well established in the culianary field.

>>10407390
>is well established in the culianary field.
nope.

>>10407442
Why are you acting like you not knowing something makes you right and everyone else wrong? You’re just making an idiot of yourself.

>T-Bone or Porterhouse?
Lardibum don't care. Both will be inhaled instantly with a bottle of A-1.

>>10407464
>However, steaks with a large tenderloin are often called a "T-bone" in restaurants and steakhouses despite technically being porterhouse.[1]

>>10401866
neither of the cuts are as good as a good Ribeye

But Porterhouse is probably second provided you cook it right

>>10401868
neither of the cuts are as good as a good Ribeye

But Porterhouse is probably second provided you cook it right

>>10405762
are you blind? that steak has a fantastic sear

>>10401836
Fuck, that got me good.

>>10408071
would better if he didn't intentionally put it near the cool side.

>>10407486
You literally just proved me right. You quoted an article saying sometimes people call a porterhouse a t-bone even tho it’s technically a porterhouse. Holy shit you’re an idiot.

>>10408122
You're technically retarded. The standard is based on minimums which means as long as a tbone meets both minimums it is both a tbone and a porterhouse.

>>10408156
What part of “despite technically being a porterhouse” do you not understand? Is it that you agree with the people who mislabel steaks because you also mislabel steaks? What is your purpose here? You’re wrong. You’re always going to be wrong. Next you will say traps aren’t gay because they look like girls...

>>10408175
>What part of “despite technically being a porterhouse” do you not understand?
Because you can technically call that tbone a porterhouse, but it doesn't cease to be a tbone because it is a porterhouse as a porterhouse is a tbone.

Also stop thinking about gay shit 24/7, you're gay come out of the closet.

>>10408185
>they look similar so they are the same thing
Fuck you’re retarded...

>>10408193
>they look similar
because the are the same thing; one is just bigger.

>>10408198
If one is bigger, they aren’t the same.

while you guys have been arguing like assholes over trivial bullshit i have been to the grocery store, baked 4 potatoes, cooked a 1.25'' thick ribeye, a 1.5'' bone-in ribeye, 2 t-bones and made a big ass salad and fed my family. it was great and i took pictures, but i hate you all too much to share them.
think about your lives, losers.

>>10408205

>>10408215
Wow, this changes everything! Actually it changed absolutely nothing. You’re retarded.

>>10408215
>>10408261
i've never seen someone get BTFO hard by a single picture before.

>>10408266
Nice try faggot. Comparing cuts of steak and apples doesn’t work. You can compare apples and cows, but a steak is one section of a whole. You would have to compare cuts of apples to cuts of steak, and there are no cuts of apples. You’re really really fucking retarded.

>>10404603
nice try faggot
while you spend 2 hours chewing on fat ill be eating steak that melts in my mouth like butter