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10144421 No.10144421[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

What does /ck/ think about this new system of food distribution as opposed to money distribution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-budget-swaps-food-stamps-for-packages-of-cereals-milk/ar-BBJ2HAf?ocid=sf

I'm torn because on one hand, centrally planned distribution of food resources is always inefficient compared to allowing market forces to purchase food, but the plan is going to cost less overall and is probably going to be more nutritionally dense than what most SNAP recipients buy

>> No.10144465

>>10144421
>probably going to be more nutritionally dense than what most SNAP recipients buy
when is this meme going to die?

anyway, it should be fine as long as they give recipients some amount of choice in what they receive (people with lactose problems have no need for shelf stable milk, people with blood sugar imbalances have little need for large amounts of grain in general, people without means of cooking like homeless people have no need for dried foods, etc)

I do appreciate Drumpf growing government by putting them in charge of what people put in their mouths.

>> No.10144470

>>10144421
also...

Is Trump going to accidentally save the USPS by turning them into a food shipping company?

>> No.10144477

Smells like communism

>> No.10144489
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>switching out beer money for what will end up being MRE's
My time has come.

>> No.10144494

>>10144470
lol this would be a good meme

>>10144477
pretty much my problems

>>10144465
its hardly growing government when its decreasing the budget and probably putting SNAP recipients into uncomfortable positions by having their food selected for them that will incentivize finding work that puts them over the poverty line to where they can choose their own food again

also most people on SNAP don't completely rely upon the SNAP payments for their food purchases so honestly giving them staples might not be that bad of an idea

>> No.10144506

>>10144421
Sounds like a great idea. Maybe poor people will want to get jobs instead of mooch of the government now that they can't spend all thier food stamps on cookies and ice cream snickers.

>> No.10144507

>>10144421
Reading the run of the mill left wing papers NY Times, Washington Post, The Guardian and they all bitch about "food deserts" and poor people only buying the cheapest and crappiest processed foods with their SNAP cards.

This would help immensely nutritionally and eliminate the problem of people trading their SNAP benefits for cash or non-SNAP items like alcohol. Since it's Trump everyone will go ballistic and call it Food Fascism or something

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>>10144494
>putting SNAP recipients into uncomfortable positions by having their food selected for them that will incentivize finding work that puts them over the poverty line to where they can choose their own food again

did you just suggest that people be punished for being poor?

>lel, you can choose your own food when you be a good boy (pic related)

>> No.10144518

>>10144507
>[new idea will help people in food deserts]
>by shipping them a box of dry staples commonly found in food deserts

>> No.10144521

>>10144510
the best thing a welfare policy can do for an individual is help them get off it

self sufficiency is liberating and empowering and I think its bad policy to have programs intended to help in times of hardship make it a comfortable norm, it should get you by not ease you along

>> No.10144529

>>10144510
>not getting to choose what free food they get
>punishment

Also, yes. I wish we would tax those who dont make enough, would be a great incentive to work harder.

>> No.10144532

>people on snap can't get pizza at 711 anymore

OH NO

>> No.10144533

>>10144421
In concept, I like this. I feel like it's going to make it harder to exploit the "food stamps" program. I'm worried it'll cost the taxpayers more, and you know it's going to become part of the democratic campaign for the next election to reverse this the same way Trump is working to remove Obama care.

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>>10144421
this can only be a rousing success

>> No.10144539

>>10144521
>Arbeit macht frei

etc.

>> No.10144561

>government managed anything
They can't handle a postage system.

They'll just dig a deeper money-pit. The few people that actually need it will be the ones that suffer the most, followed by those whose money is supporting them.

>> No.10144569

>>10144421
>no more coupon queens spending hours in the grocery line buying ten carts worth of groceries for 5 dollars

can only be a good thing.

>> No.10144579

>>10144561
article said he's gonna let states figure it out themselves, mostly by sucking fedex' dick

>> No.10144585

>>10144561
The USPS is dying because it's a thing of the past and no longer needed. We have virtual paper mail, and corporations for packages. I hope trump does away with it.

>> No.10144587

>>10144421
i'm quitting my job tomorrow so I can make sure I'm first in line for government issued trump steaks

>> No.10144594

>>10144561
USPS has been dying since the 00's and the .net. The biggest problem is they never changed their infrastructure, always worked for the government to back them up on shit, have a no competition attitude, and never worked directly with internet companies on shipping like others did

>> No.10144598

>>10144585
usps is dying because of private shipping companies paid lobbyists

no other reason.

>> No.10144605

>>10144561
Also why should you get to use my hard earned tax dollars for 711 pizza and ice cream sandwiches when I spend my hard earned money on American grown vegetables? If you want to eat poop then get a job and buy it your self.

>> No.10144611

>>10144598
What are they lobbying for?

>> No.10144625

>>10144421
how could any grocery chain be okay with this?

>> No.10144633

>>10144611
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/dont-let-business-lobbyists-kill-the-post-office-20120423

here's babies first article, I can't be arsed to find you more. You can do it yourself by literally googling "USPS + Lobbyists"

>> No.10144636

>>10144625
Is the grocery store lobby some legislative juggernaut or something? It seems like everyone focuses on that

>> No.10144642

>>10144625
probably better than getting sheboons in every day robbing them blind

>> No.10144649

>>10144539
>dude, nazis

comparing free food to a concentration camp. i hate you

>> No.10144651

>take away people's access to fresh fruits and vegetables will surely make them eat healthier

>> No.10144654

>>10144633
I read that one already. They have to prepay benefits because when the USPS closes in 5 or 6 more years those people who have already earned those benefits will need to receive thier benefits rather than the post office blowing it on retard schemes that wont work.

Also > the rolling stone
Pfffftttt

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>>10144651
yeah I am sure negros buy fresh fruit and vegetables with their government money
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/pizza-vegetable-congress-says-yes/

>> No.10144660

>>10144654
>I read that one already.
then why did you ask you faggot

>didn't read the rest of your post

>> No.10144665

>>10144659
I'm sure they'll have the option now that they're receiving a box of sand and twigs

>> No.10144667

>>10144660
Haha your socialist program is gonna die so that coporations and replace and improve upon it.

>> No.10144677

>>10144665
>items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish
aka civilian mres

>> No.10144693

I think SNAP/EBT needs some rework not sure if this is the best way to go about it, but at least it does get people talking about it.

>>10144659
Stuff like this is infuriating, especially when I was working a low paying job just too much for EBT, but had to deal with others getting crab legs, shrimp, or other stuff there was no hope I could afford. The classifications of what is sold needs to be readdressed.

>> No.10144696

>>10144677
>mres
do you even know what the R stands for?

>> No.10144700

>>10144521
Most food stamps recipients don't stay on food stamps for longer than a year
Having a shitty system in place for people who need help doesn't make sense if the goal is to help them

>> No.10144703

>>10144659
to be fair, the ingredients you would need to buy to make a large pizza from scratch would cost at least that much.

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This is good.

Old SNAP:
>people buy all their food on the first of the month
>buy tons of soda, candy, unhealthy shit
>complain about not having enough because you didn't budget your groceries
>people can buy almost whatever they want
>fat epidemic increases
>no incentive to get a job and get off SNAP

New SNAP
>first of the month doesn't have the dregs of society packing into groceries store
>you get healthy food now
>fighting obesity epidemic
>you want unhealthy food? Buy it yourself.
>don't like free healthy food? Get off SNAP, you parasite.

>> No.10144709

>>10144700
Learn to help your self.

>> No.10144710

>>10144696
ready, meals ready to eat
why?

>> No.10144713

>>10144700
Getting all food staples including vegetables and meats sounds superior to eating half your meals at 7-11

>> No.10144717

>>10144713
Do you have any figures or numbers for people who spend money at 7-11?

>>10144709
>most recipients don't stay on food stamps for a year
they are helping themselves, but it doesn't make sense to say they don't need help if they meet the requirements for government assisted funds

>> No.10144718

>>10144421
>meat, poultry or fish

that means caned tuna and trump steak, right?

>> No.10144723

>>10144717
>>10144713
better, do you have figures or numbers for the amount of government rations that end up in landfills?

>> No.10144730

>>10144717
There are tons of articles on every main stream news web sites concerning "food deserts" and other poverty associated nutritional deprivation and a huge portion of impoverished people have a hard time going to a proper grocery store or market so a huge portion of SNAP money is spent at convenience stores and especially Dollar General

>> No.10144735

>>10144510
Not punished. Just not supported enough to get to choose exactly what they want with other people's money. When you spend your own money you can be picky about the fancy food you want. How are you being punished for getting something you didn't pay for in the first place? Its like saying someone got 'punished' for getting a 50 cent raise when they were expecting (but not entitled to) an dollar raise.

>> No.10144740

>>10144730
>There are tons of articles on every main stream news web sites concerning "food deserts"
usually focusing on the lack of "fresh vegatables"
and not on the lack of shelf stable staples (including canned vegetables and meat)

>> No.10144747

>>10144730
https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/ops/SNAPFoodsTypicallyPurchased.pdf

Studies show that Food stamps households are just as unhealthy as the rest of America
That means that the problem isn't specifically with Food Stamp households, but the whole of America

>> No.10144750

>>10144569
Most of those people are upper middle class

>>10144585
the USPS is only in debt because of Congress forcing them to fund their pensions for 75 years within 10 years of the law passing in 2011, an unreasonable requirement.

>> No.10144752

>>10144740
Dollar general and corner stores are great places to buy cuts of meat and fish. The fruit and veggie selection rivals Whole Foods or a local farmers market.

>> No.10144760

>>10144717
They're still getting help. In fact more help, now they'll be recieving healthy American made foods rather than succumbing to the addiction of sugars available at the supermarket.

>> No.10144763

>>10144752
please don't lie on the internet

>> No.10144774

>>10144760
The best way to sell it is for Trump to say the idea was inspired by Michelle Obama. It may quiet the inevitable caterwauling

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>>10144763
He's right bro I get great deals on fresh meat and fish at the dollar tree and 5 below! -Pic related

>> No.10144780

>>10144659
>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/pizza-vegetable-congress-says-yes/
Nobody said pizza is a vegetable, that was just a meme by people who didn't read any articles or actually understand what was being discussed. It's just saying if there's enough tomato sauce on a pizza to be considered a serving of vegetables, then consider it a serving of vegetables. There probably isn't, but nobody tried to say pizza is a vegetable.

>> No.10144783

>>10144760
But it's not a solution that benefits everyone equally
The boxes will assuredly not take into account various factors like dietary needs, caloric needs, or even storage needs
The idea behind food stamps is to help people live their normal lives while they get back on track, why treat them any differently?

>> No.10144792

>>10144421
I generally am cautious about central governmemt planning, but after working at Walmart and seeing people buy shopping carts full of junk food (and nothing else) for their kids with food stamps, hopefully this will allow kids in poverty to actually eat healthily instead of their dumb parents turning them into nutritionally-stunted landwhales from the cradle.

>> No.10144809

>>10144783
I dont think we know enough yet to make that assumption. Parents with new born kids or expecting are eligible for WIC in Texas that is based on nutrients. Who's to says it won't be nutrient based?

>> No.10144821

>>10144421
>the plan is going to cost less overall and is probably going to be more nutritionally dense than what most SNAP recipients buy
Good.

Food stamps are a fucking scam and a waste of the tax payers dollar.

>> No.10144822

>>10144809
We don't know enough, but the current administration isn't doing the best job of anything so far
I seriously doubt that this will fix any real problems
The flaws of food stamps/SNAP are often overplayed, this plan doesn't really do anything except reallocate a little bit of money away from the plan

>> No.10144840

>>10144705
This. The fact is that most chronically poor people remain poor because they're not exactly great at making decisions. This isn't neccesarily all on them, as if you grew up in poverty or had a system against you, you probably didn't learn the best life management skills. But regardless of whose fault it is the point still stands, so of course poor people aren't going to do the best job of budgeting their foods if they can't budget their lives. Sometimes you need someone to step in and make good decisions when you're not able to yourself. Getting a steady supply of healthy staple foods is far from the worst tough love you could get.

>> No.10144859

>>10144783
>various factors like dietary needs, caloric needs, or even storage needs
The fuck are you on about? "Caloric needs?" Nobody needs more then 2,000 calories a day, period. "Dietary needs?" I assume you mean allergies, because taxpayers aren't going to pay for your vegan/Paleo hipster diet. And storage? What do you mean? You can't keep a gallon of milk in your fridge? You can't eat some carrots within a month?

These are all non-issues. What you should be worried about are getting non-rotten fruit and veggies, not where you're going to keep them or if they fit your diet, you moron.

>> No.10144861

>>10144840
>>10144705
people on SNAP buy basically the same goods as people not on SNAP
it's not a problem with poor people, it's a problem with Americans
Giving poor people better food doesn't solve the obesity epidemic nor does it discourage them from trying to get off the program

>> No.10144879

>>10144859
>Nobody needs more then 2,000 calories a day, period.
Most adults need more than that, particularly if they aren't lazy slobs

>"Dietary needs?" I assume you mean allergies
There are plenty of lactose intolerant people who could use something other than milk
There are plenty of people who could use specific foods that the box might not have
Poor people experience allergies at the same rate that rich people do

Instead of forcing people to take one box of food for a month, most of which will probably go bad within 2 weeks, why not let people buy food that fits their lifestyle
Not everyone has a fridge, or a house

>> No.10144883

>>10144534
>NO FRILLS

>> No.10144885

>>10144879
>Most adults need more than that
t. Obese

>> No.10144887

>>10144861
>Giving poor people better food doesn't solve the obesity epidemic
Except that the epidemic is caused by people eating shitty food.
>people on SNAP buy basically the same goods as people not on SNAP
So you're complaining that under this program poor people would actually be eating better than better-off people? Because I really don't see the issue.

>> No.10144888

>>10144861
That is not true at all.

I bet any cashier or bagger could tell who's on SNAP just by looking at their cart.

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>> No.10144891

>>10144879
A free box of food from the government shouldn't be enough to live comfortably on. It should be enough to stay ALIVE. Life is all you need in america to get a job, work hard, and better your life so that you can AFFORD to buy the food that fits their lifestyle, and a fridge to put it in.

>> No.10144895

>>10144885
t. manlet/woman.

>> No.10144896

>>10144885
>t. Obese
https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/usda_food_patterns/EstimatedCalorieNeedsPerDayTable.pdf

>>10144887
>Except that the epidemic is caused by people eating shitty food.
yes, but it's a problem with all americans, not poor ones
If you want to solve the obesity problem, forcing change upon one socioeconomic class isn't a solution

>So you're complaining that under this program poor people would actually be eating better than better-off people
If the box is actually a good thing, that provides more than enough nutrient dense foods, then they would be eating better
But there's literally no guarantee that it will be anything good, nutritious, and that it meets the needs for every household

>> No.10144897

>>10144888
Can confirm, "guess if they're on food stamps" was one of the little games I played to get me through the days at my miserable job. Sounds terrible, but retail jobs are one of the most sure-fire ways to turn you into a cynical misanthrope.

>> No.10144902

>>10144891
I never said that they should be living comfortably on the box of food
I'm saying that the box of food might not even be what it's promising to be

>> No.10144907

>>10144879
>Most adults need more than that.
No they don't. The only exception are body builders and marathon runners. If you eat more than 2,000 calories a day you are fat.

I'm sure the government won't be giving out milk to the lactose intolerant or peanuts to people who are deathly allergic.

>Buy food that fits their lifestyle.
You don't get to have a lifestyle. You're on government handouts. Your lifestyle should be shame.

>> No.10144911

>>10144896
>If you want to solve the obesity problem, forcing change upon one socioeconomic class isn't a solution
It certainly is a solution for that socioeconomic class, who are statistically the most obese
>But there's literally no guarantee that it will be anything good, nutritious, and that it meets the needs for every household
I guarantee that whatever it is it will be better than what they're currently buying

>> No.10144917

>>10144907
>No they don't.
https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/usda_food_patterns/EstimatedCalorieNeedsPerDayTable.pdf

>I'm sure the government won't be giving out milk to the lactose intolerant or peanuts to people who are deathly allergic.
Hopefully, but it doesn't sound like the harvest box approach is one that lets you pick and choose what goes in your household's box

>> No.10144920

>>10144911
>It certainly is a solution for that socioeconomic class, who are statistically the most obese
Not even
The best way to get people to stop doing something is to teach them to stop doing it

>I guarantee that whatever it is it will be better than what they're currently buying
No you can't

>> No.10144933

>>10144917
I bet you overestimate your activity, you're more than likely sedentary

>> No.10144949

>>10144917
Literally the first result on Google, which I'm sure you ignored.

>What should my daily intake of calories be? Within a healthy, balanced diet, a man needs around 10,500kJ (2,500kcal) a day to maintain his weight. For a woman, that figure is around 8,400kJ (2,000kcal) a day. These values can vary depending on age, metabolism and levels of physical activity, among other things.
From NHS.uk

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>>10144774
>The best way to sell it is for Trump to say the idea was inspired by Michelle Obama
I could see Trump doing this, the cognitive dissonance on the left would be delicious.

>> No.10144958

>>10144933
>https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/usda_food_patterns/EstimatedCalorieNeedsPerDayTable.pdf
>Male, Age 21-25, Sedentary
>2,400 calories
Also, Moderately active just means you do the equivalent of walking 2 miles daily

>> No.10144961

>>10144949
I'm posting results from the USDA, which is the organization behind Trump's Harvest Box
If we're going to use any data, why the fuck would it not be the USDA's own fucking data?

>> No.10144964

>>10144780
But tomatoes aren't a vegetable. They're a fruit.

>> No.10144967

>>10144964
Different government organizations classify things differently for tax purposes

>> No.10144970

>>10144964
You're a fruit, who's counting?

>> No.10144978

>>10144750
Not unreasonable. They're going out and need to fund pensions for when thier workers get laid off. They literally want to waste workers pensions on attempting yo keep themselves afloat with ridiculous ideas that don't work. They already cost tax payers $18 billion in subsidiaries. Let them die, faster the better

>> No.10145002

>>10144534
there's literally nothing wrong with government cheese

>> No.10145004

Why not just make it so that you need to show identification tied to your EBT card to use it, therefore eliminating people trading it/selling it and then putting more restrictions on what they can buy?

>> No.10145007

>>10144470
I used to work for the usps. Most of us we paid so little we were on SNAP.

>> No.10145012

>>10144585
USPS is incredibly incompetent, but they also kinda get shafted by having to contract out to other companies to ship via plane

>> No.10145042

>SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.
we wuz first wurld

>It would give all households receiving more than $90 a month in cash a food-aid package that would "include items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish,"
This boosts domestic producers while slimming workshy slobs. Double win, so long as the system isn't gamed (it will be)

>> No.10145050

>>10145007
I have many friends who work for the USPS and they get paid around $25 an hour which if you Google. Is the average. That means some people make more than that.

>> No.10145055

>>10145004
You're actually supposed to but no one enforces it before kids get food for home with thier parents card

>> No.10145064

>>10144421
>Land of the free
Unless you are poor, then you are told what to eat by the state.

>> No.10145068

>>10144494
>Poor people are lazy
Wow, I don't say this often but you need Jesus.

>> No.10145070

>>10145055
>letting your child go to the grocery store for you
why can't these people just stock their own fucking fridge and pantry? if your kid is too young to have some sort of id that shows you're related/on some sort of approved list of people using the card they shouldn't be going by themselves

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>>10144421
>'m torn because on one hand, centrally planned distribution of food resources is always inefficient compared to allowing market forces to purchase food
Are you retarded? It's not "market forces purchase or they don't". It's a fucking welfare program either way.

>> No.10145077

They should give a couple of free books every month too.

>> No.10145082

>>10145012
Theyve always contracted out for delivery via plane

>> No.10145084

>>10145064
>given free food
>complain

>> No.10145088

>>10144861
>people on SNAP buy basically the same goods as people not on SNAP
You say this like its an okay thing. If you're poor as fuck, you need to spend money - including food money - much more wisely

>> No.10145090

>>10145064
You dont have to apply for food stamps. No one is forcing you.

>> No.10145092

>>10144897
Care to share any stories? Like "best of the worst" EBT customers.

>> No.10145100

>>10145050
Tell me more about your anicdotes about your friend. If your a usps salaried employee ina big city your sitting pretty. If your an hourly contractor in a small rural town, like i was, your fucked. We didn't even want more hours, if you woork too much or too little no snap. The postmaster worked with us too. He wold take our shifita in the office or the annex so we could stay on snap. He knew his resources. He wished he could pay better. It wasnt up to him though he made 90k we made less. Its a buisness. I have a better job now. Mitch my postmaster is one of my favorite bossses ever.

>> No.10145113

>>10145050
>$25 an hour which if you Google. Is the average. That means some people make more than that
It also means people make less than that.
My mind is fucking blown.

>> No.10145120

>>10145100
Town of 4,000 bud. I'm good friends with many of the postal workers. Dunno were youre from but they started at $17 and were given raises very often none of them made under $23 when I spoke to them. I tried to get on, but, you had to know someone tonget in. Even ups I started at $18.50

>> No.10145128

>>10145100
What did you do? I only knew delivery drivers. Doing some quick research and math the lowest 10% made $13 an hour but were warehouse workers. Even then, that is average for warehouse work

>> No.10145131

>>10145120
>>10145113
The usps is over half contractors than are not included in the averages. And I love how your numbers keep going down. Your getting closer to the right figures. Ppl might have made a bit more where you are but if they get no hours like I did thet arent makeing much.

Besides tge point though. My point was that most of us qualified for snap and got it. Usps wasnt a bad time compaired to some jobs.

>> No.10145132

>>10145064
No one is forcing you to use goverment gibs

>> No.10145133

>>10145128
Annexx mostly. Filled in for postofficr sometimes. Cant remember tge title, but low level contactor.

>> No.10145135

>>10144421
One of the major problem with this is that the proposed plan is heavy on canned goods and no fresh vegetables will be provided.

It's something thought up by rich people who grew up rich and never had to cook or shop except maybe once or twice a month when they decide to cook for fun.

>> No.10145144

What Ive seen proposed to be in the boxes is likely going to help with driving up med costs, so that's cool I guess.

Also hurts local farmers markets/ local businesses in general. Probably going to have the ususal issue things like these do related to contracts etc.

While I do kind of like it in theory, I think its going to turn out like ass and just dump money into a few companies who will have enough "friends" to pick up the contracts.

>> No.10145152

>>10144421
It has it's ups and downs.

I'm about to be on SNAP, but I grow a lot of my own food, mostly beans. Would really prefer a broader choice as to what my allotted assistance is geared towards.

I could spend the assistance on doctors visits and a car payment as opposed to choosing only one. It's not Luke it's a lot of.money to begin with.

On the other hand, I get where they're coming from. I've seen people use snap cards on candy bars and fountain drinks at gas stations, which is dumb as fuck.
The only way to really "fix" the issue would be to have some kind of auditing that would make sure it goes towards essentials, not just healthy food, but things people need. Like I said, I prefer the food I grow.

>> No.10145155

>>10144465
I grew up on food stamps, a.k.a. SNAP, and the vast majority of people on it, squander a large portion of it on sugary, salty, and nutritionally deficient food.

I 100% agree with replacing SNAP with pre-approved foods. People shouldn't be able to buy chips, soda, cookies, most premade food, etc; on the tax payers dime. We're paying for people to develop obesity related illnesses, only to then in turn pay for their healthcare.

This will also help to combat people that sell their SNAP benefits, which many people do.

>> No.10145158

>>10144605
In some states they have a clause on food stamps that doesnt let you buy preprepared food.

Doesnt help with the deserts issue though

>> No.10145165

>>10145135
Veg = fiber = less fat absorption = good.
Less they are probably low in vitamins but so is pizza. A bigger problem may be high levels of sodium

>> No.10145168

>>10144705
The food proposed to be in the boxes is likely to be incredibly unhealthy, and not help with the obesity problem at all.

>> No.10145169

>>10145168
Your bias is talking.

>> No.10145172

I used to work in a grocery store next to a section 8 housing complex. The most common things purchased on snap were hungry man frozen dinners and soda. I don't think I ever saw people buy fresh fruit or vegetables with food stamps in the couple years I worked there.

>> No.10145173
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10145173

It's literal fucking starvation fascism and it should cause every working class person in this fucked up country to storm the streets and set shit on fire.

Fortunately, this turd will never get off the ground.

The Big Blue Wave is coming this November.

Psycho "kill the poor" Republicunts will hold no power and every sadistic fucker in this administration will be impeached, damned and jailed for life.

Then we can get on with the business of free healthcare and having a decent fucking country again.

>> No.10145176

>>10145133
Never met anyone who did contracting. Should have done delivery. I only met delivery guys, they got paid well and it was a small rural town. You can check hourly wages and salaries from low end to high end online. Maybe you were getting screwed. Either way, imo its time to let go. I'd stay and keep arguing about the postal service on this fine oriental noodle cooking board, but, its 2am. I gotta get up early so I can shit post some more. Leave me a rebuttal I guess and ill get back with you when ive gotten some sleep.

>> No.10145184

>>10145173
Hahaha
Big blue wave
Nothing is free zionist
Communism cannot being forced only come about through capitalism.

Just don't apply for food stamps bro, you dont have to accept free food.

>> No.10145192

The spic nig cycle.
America uses unprecedented and unsustainable prosperity to import illegals to slaughter animals and fry their meat so that we can stuff it down niggers throats until they are too fat to walk.

The United States exists to stuff nigs with fried meat until they become crippled from overeating, and then provide them with heroic medical care until they gracelessly expire.

>> No.10145197

Another thing about food stamps is that ghetto bodegas run by bindis let people buy cigs and sometime even booze with food stamps and just ring them up as cases of soda or whatever.

>> No.10145200

>>10145176
Mail carriers are always true postal employees. Contractors make up all the people yoi dont see. Ppl in the back of the office. Ppl in tge carrier annex. Ppl who drive semi trucks between annexes and sort facilities.

>> No.10145201

>>10145173
>fascism
>Blue Wave
>Republicunts
>impeached
>free healthcare
ok comrade

>> No.10145204

>People can't sell their SNAP now.
This is some blatant racism!
How a queen gonna afford here weave and cocoa butter now?!

>> No.10145206

>>10145201
Your forgot his obvious spacing issues.

>> No.10145207

>>10145176
Don't sit around all day and defend the ex pony express. They are a dinosaur. We will see then end of that institution. Not saying it was the worst thing ever again and for the final time. They didn't pay tye best and ppl working their get food stamps.

>> No.10145210

>>10145169
Probably, maybe expecting it to be government cheese, spam, and canned tuna might be overly pessimistic. But I really don't anticipate it to be too far off.

>> No.10145216

>>10145210
Nigga that shits good.
And government peanut butter.

>> No.10145219

>>10145206
Only got a few lines before I realised it was an obvious troll. Posted anyway because I solve before I post like a good goy.

>>10145210
I posted already that I think a handful of companies will probably find a loophole that lets them sell pureshit but there's always hope. Plus I don't know of any existing relationship between Trump and food producers.

>> No.10145230

>>10145092
Sure.
>18 year old bag bitch
>young black couple with their newborn child come through the line with just a bunch of baby formula in their cart
>they try to pay for it using their SNAP/EBT benefits
>it's declined
>they try again and it's declined once more
>mortified, they have to leave the line and return the formula
>next customer steps up
>some redneck in ridiculous suspenders who looked like he just got done being balls-deep in his sister
>stares me and the cashier dead in the eye, "it's a good thing we got trump coming 'cus I don't want my tax dollars supporting some nigger slut and her whore daughter"
>cashier and I are nervous, freaking out a little bit
I forgot what happened next. I think we just tried to get him through as quick as possible

>> No.10145233

>>10145230
things_that_never_happened_part45.txt

>> No.10145242

>>10145233
>give us the best of the worst
>ok
>wait no this isn't what I meant I disagree with this so it never happened

>> No.10145251

>>10145242
>write like a huffpost divorcee
>wonder why you get accused of lying

>> No.10145259

>>10145242
Snap cards don't work for formula.

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>>10145259
Why do you lie?

>> No.10145264

>>10145259
No shit I didn't realize

>>10145251
>you're lying because I don't like what you wrote

>> No.10145273

>>10145262
Huh I didn't know that
It still kills me inside that the couple trying to use SNAP for what it was designed for kept on being denied

>> No.10145274

>>10145273
No it doesn't because it never happened, you larping faggot.

>> No.10145275

>>10145273
Formula is expensive and they probably didn't have enough gibs for the baby food.

>> No.10145279

>>10145230
Any nigger worth their salt would know never to get formula with a snap card because it empties the account fast as fuck.
No free monies = no snacks and chips.

>> No.10145287

Baby formula is frequently purchased with food stamps because it can be traded for drugs or used to cut cocaine.

>> No.10145295

>>10145274
>your story didn't support my preconceived bias and wasn't the response I was fishing for so it never happened

>>10145287
Here's a (You) for effort

>> No.10145298

>>10145287
Which is why the cans are like 35 bucks each and watched like hawks by loss prevention.
They are also stolen a lot.
>>10145295
>Here's a (You) for effort
Clearly you never worked retail.

>> No.10145306

>>10145298
I still work in the same publix my green text happened in, just not as a bagger anymore

>> No.10145323

>>10144703
You kidding? The initial cost would be relatively high, but the price per unit of each pizza you make yourself is much lower than $5.55

>>10144859
>Nobody needs more then 2,000 calories a day, period
People who aren't midgets and do manual labor certainly need more than that.

>>10145287
Why use formula to cut cocaine? Wouldn't there be cheaper options?

>> No.10145371

>>10145295
>lie
>get called out
>double down
>REEE! YOU'RE JUST BIASED! THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT BELEIVING MY LIE!

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I grew up in an middle upper class Black neighborhood. I didn't even know what EBT was until I was 19 working at Walgreens.

The people that bought junk food with EBT were poor whites from Mississippi.

I liked the job except that I had to keep an eye on a poor looking white couples because they kept stealing those pregnancy tests for women. Mexican kids always ALWAYS made a mess in the toy and discount aisles.

>> No.10145431

>>10145403
can guarantee that is a FTM who has had their boobs removed and is taking testosterone but isnt taking enough to develop muscles/isn't working out
>small hands
>small shoulders
>short
>female tatts
>female hairline
>ugly girl face
>beard looks like its half makeup
>small ears
>makeup on brow bone to make it look thicker than it is

also you experienced what most white people experience around niggers and yeah mexican kids are all feral