/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10018201
>Why is wine considered a girly or sissy drink?
Only in American flyover shitholes. Most people know./

Because it's predominately consumed by suburban housewives and retarded 20 year old girls.
Pairing wine with a meal is perfectly acceptable, but only women will drink it to get tipsy or even drunk.

>not drinking fruity cocktails with confidence
Never gonna make it

Fly over detected

>>10018213
fpbp

>>10018201
>Historically men have enjoyed wine for centuries
Gay men

Mostly depends on geography. America has been predominantly whiskey and beer because that’s what was able to be made originally (vineyards were not really a thing then). Marketing has capitalized on this history.

>>10018339
Well that and hard ciders

>>10018201
Why do you care what's labeled girly or not? You sound like one of those people who love ABBA but are afraid to show it.

>>10018277
The foundation of the failed western paradigm was built on roman and greek wine culture, so there's that.

Because it’s sweet. Apparently the more bitter the taste the more manly.

>>10018213
>C.U.C.C. residents actually believe this
Keep drinking your rotten grape juice faggot

because it's hard to tell the difference between a french man and an American woman.

>>10018253
This, who even gives a fuck

I enjoy some beer and hard liquor too but there's no shame in drinking a nice sweet girly cocktail once in a while

>>10018339
>because that’s what was able to be made originally
This is that "fortress America" myth talking, aka revisionist nonsense, promoted by the same idiots who want to shut our borders down and point guns at every foreign country including (and perhaps especially) our allies. As if everything America has ever done, liked, or appreciated must have been of purely indigenous manufacture and we never had any friends all this time.

Early America was heavily dependent on foreign imports, we used foreign sugar, foreign textiles, foreign firearms, foreign blades, etc, etc. Consuming a foreign-made alcoholic beverage would not have been terribly unusual. The Founding Fathers were mostly fluent in French and greatly appreciated French wine. We also manufactured quite a bit of rum from imported raw materials. But revisionists would have us believe that international trade was invented by Barack Hussein Obama.

The reason whiskey became semi-synonymous with belligerent cries of MURICA is because of the complicated politics of the early American tax system which led to an armed revolt in some hillbilly parts of America from backyard still inbreds who were unwilling to carry their weight like the patriotic distilling professionals of New York who had already been paying off our war debts for far longer. Basically, they were asked to chip in, and responded with bullets. So despite what flyovers want you to think, whiskey actually is the drink of treasonous ingrates who hate America.

Real Americans drink wine.

>>10018482
>he thinks thomas jefferson had a successful wine vineyard
BAHAHAHA.
Only if you think boones is good.

>>10018497
>had a successful wine vineyard
Do flyovers think "sauternes" refers to a colonial estate in Virginia?

>>10018201
It's not? It's consider urbanite and maybe a bit high class. It's one of the oldest drinks in the world.

>>10018505
Keep sipping your boones until you get drunk enough to larp as a founding father.

>>10018526
But I'm drinking a Hautes-Côtes de Nuits

>>10018201
>When did wine become a mom drink?

>>10018530
That's nice sweetie, Are you going to the PTA meeting tomorrow after your spin class?

>>10018576
I don't have kids, and spin is cancer, but I'll probably go for an actual bike ride, yeah. Should be pretty empty out since it's an overnight low of 32. Not sure if I want to do River Road or North Country Trailway. You want to make the decision for me?

>>10018602
Yes, men should always make the decision.

>>10018708
Is that your way of telling me you're a girl? Fine, I'll flip a coin.

River road it is.

>>10018201
It's for gays.

>>10018201
what's wrong with being girly? maybe go back to your own boards if you don't like it

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>>10018602
>women larping as men calling each others girls on a female majority board
the world is strange

>>10018715
>interprets a yes as no and no as yes
Definitely female like.

>>10018757
If that's a roundabout way of asking to see my ding-dong, I think there's another board for that stuff.

>>10018764
I'm saying neither of you are men.

>>10018769
I never brought up my gender, flyover kun just started feeling btfo I guess, after repeatedly trying to turn the conversation to his favor I guess all he had left was "neener neener ur a cootie girl"

>>10018776
And I'm saying that's a strange argument when almost everyone on this board is a girl

>>10018780
>maleanon here

>>10018780
I guess. It usually only comes up in alcoholic beverage discussions, although there is one anon who I am pretty sure is a dude who keeps making threads where he fantasizes about being a 1950s housewife, and those are usually a shitshow.

>>10018794
And you larp as a woman from the 1700's.

>>10018806
Why would I larp as the mother of my future children?

>>10018201
Its cheap and gets you drunk faster than beer and tastes better than beer

>>10018451
Yeah there isn't anything wrong with eating out a guys ass every now and then

>>10018374
Everyone loves Abba

>>10018482
sort of accurate, but there is *some* accuracy to fortress America, in that we were forced to - for a period - rely on what we could produce locally or smuggle in via the carribean while the British Navy blockaded our shit. As a result beer and whisky simply became a cheaper, more readily available alternative, and promoting local business was seen as frugal and patriotic.

After the War, French booze started flowing freely again - woo! Unfortunately, only a few years later we would be officially unofficially at war with France when Revolutionary Court professional dickhead Tallyrand started demanding bribes from our diplomats in order to be recognized in Paris. Boo. So then it became unpatriotic to drink French wine, and American producers - who had long since caught onto politicizing marketing and you could argue America was FOUNDED by such politicized marketing - capitalized.

Also, funny thing about the Whisky Rebellion, from their perspective they were fighting the same thing they had in the war against the British - a tax on a ubiquitous item levied by a distant government for the purpose of paying off war debt incurred in patriotic defense of the citizenry but done so without their consent or input. The big difference, however academic, was that Washington was not an Ocean away, nor were the Whisky Rebels actually voiceless - they had representatives in Congress who agreed to the tax. So really it was just sour grapes on their part. Though you have to understand, post Revolutionary War America was pretty fucking rough, and debt sparked more than one armed counter revolution that had to be put down politically or via force of arms before Washington would retire. The Whisky Rebellion is just the most famous

>>10018902
this but unironically

>>10018201
Its not entirely. Ever hear the term wino?

>>10018902
I don't.

>>10018902
>Abba
Fernando. I mean correct.

>>10018201
Because of beer marketing I would think. Successful advertising becomes memetic eventually.

Perceptions change over time. Roses can be incredible bargins because generally people consider them womanly. Also, South American wine kicks the shit out of American wine. Malbecs and Carmeneres are just superior to what is produced stateside.

>>10018757
Is there a female majority board on 4chan?

>>10019415
t.only drinks $9 wine

>>10018201
You have to be very insecure to believe this. Enjoy what you want, not doing things because of opinions make u a fag.

>>10019565
/ck/. /cgl/.

>food is for women
>wine is for women
>men only eat nails and rocks and RRAWRRR WHISKEY WITH AN EY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GAY LIKE THOSE FOREIGNERS WHO SPELL IT WHISKY
if ever we wanted evidence that /ck/ is mostly high school students trying to seem "worldly", this is it

Real men drink box wine out of the box.
Preppies and women drink that classy bottled crap.

>>10020724
>a few posters on /ck/ shitposting
ftfy

>>10020724
And you know whose fault is...

>>10018253
Hemingway's signature daiquiri contains more than an ounce of citrus juice when made properly

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>>10018482
Are you a coastalfag lefty?

No one wants to “shut our borders down” and just not accept any imports. That is why I assume you may be a lefty because you’re exaggerating and misrepresenting the solutions while simultaneously ignoring the problems.

The goal is to keep out ILLEGAL aliens and encourage trade deals that are BENEFICIAL for the country.

As for drinking anything, this is a part of culture that I think warps people’s minds too much.

If you are a man and you like wine, drink it. If you like whiskey or whatever, drink it. Your beverage of choice does not make you effeminate just like a woman drinking whiskey doesn’t make her more masculine. Women can eat steak and men can eat yogurt and it has no implication whatsoever on there gender status or what gender they “should” be, or how masculine/femine they are, UNLESS they are eating or drinking (or refraining from) these things for a particular reason or holding an attitude about it.

>>10018576
Every time I see the word “sweetie” used on here I can’t decide if it’s a woman saying it sarcastically or a man saying it as a sarcastic meme word.

>>10018757
How does anyone determine that this is somehow a female majority board when we are all anonymous?

>>10018780
>states an unverifiable assertion as matter-of-fact

>>10021646
Sweety, if you have ask then you know it's a man saying it. Gosh, aren't you just the most adorable dimwit ever

>>10021635
>coastalfag lefty
I'm from the right coast not the left coast.
>to keep out ILLEGAL aliens
And of course change the laws to synchronize what "fortress America" types are thinking when they think "illegal", to wit: brown = illegal, white = legal.
>trade deals that are BENEFICIAL for the country
NAFTA has been a net benefit for the country. Like literally all other treaties and in fact any policies at all, some benefit more than others. Some even lose, that is also a given. The important thing is that the gains outweigh the losses. What flyovers seem to have forgotten is that "the country" is more than just some abandoned ghost towns in northern Ohio. Unfortunately it's difficult to explain economics with 140 character text fragments. It's very easy to promote paranoia and stoke rage with 140 character text fragments, though. And that's what the right is best at. Is your life not like the Real Housewives of OC? Not enough big screen TVs in your home? Want a six figure job without education and you can't figure out how to make that happen? Must be the fault of (joos/women/mexicans/china/ay-rabbs/canada/avocados/glasses)

Also, thank you for giving me permission to eat yogurt.

>>10018201
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Haha

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>>10021824
>Haha

>>10021658
contact google ad sense or chinkmoot, they will sell you the verification

>>10021635
>makes generalizations about people
>doesn't realize that generalization can be applied to your group
Nice.

>>10022364
>Says nice passive-aggressively
Nice

>>10018253
i had a drink called a gummy bear or something at a gay bar in new york. best mixed drink i've ever tasted. would drink again no fucks given

>>10022729
>gay bar in new york
so like... any of them

>>10022729
Are people suppose to think you're gay because the drink in your hand or because you were in a fucking gay bar?

>>10022734
>>10022754
>being gay is bad
are you people 12, or just flyovers?

also gay bars have shit tier drink selections, even in a gay friendly city there simply aren't enough gay bars around to make the draw something other than "if you see a dude here he's probably into other dudes", so needless to say they don't give a fuck about quality

>>10018201
nobody in europe thats not super poor thinks that way

>>10022784
>nobody in europe
tbqh it's hard to tell the men from the women in europe.

>>10022764
i think you have some projection going on there anon. >>10022734 didn't say anything disparaging toward the gays.

>>10022803
>No U!
Ok

>>10022803
he's just self loathing fag.
Most fags and trannies hate themselves.

>>10022727
Do you like femanons?
>tfw turned on by bantz

>>10022814
Only on 4chan, since that way /pol/ will give them stern authoritative love that their fathers didn't give them.

>>10022814
Thank you for being honest with your homophobia instead of playing this slippery troll game

Wine is considered sissy because the average wine drinker is a 20something year old who buys the Foxhound or whatever stuff and is drinking glorified alcohol with grape flavor

>>10022825
>the average wine drinker is a 20something middle aged soccer mom gay male pretentious yuppie suburban urbanite who drinks cheap wine and $5000 bottles in order to pretend that expensive equals good even though all wine is the same as proven by this test that shows some people prefer cheap wine over expensive wine

>>10022842
eww.. gross pic. MOODS!!!!

I'm a man and I normally drink a bottle of red wine before going out clubbing or something. It's the perfect amount of booze for me pre-going out. With the added bonus of not making me fat like 8 tins of beer. I don't give a fuck if anyone thinks I'm a faggot for it

>>10022842
Trying to debate tastes in wine is like trying to talk about how good you can make your farts smell. At the end of the day, everyone still looks stupid. People will always say how good a wine is just based on what they are told it is suppose to be

>>10022854
>8 tins of beer
knew you were a faggot after reading this

>>10022854
>not making me fat
It's like 700 calories a bottle, you're confusing the carbon dioxide in beer with fat

>>10022858
If my goal is to get rekkt why would I drink 2-3 litres of beer when I could have just one humble bottle of wine

>>10022854
Wine is fine to pregame with so long as you make sure your mouth doesn't look red before going out.

>>10018201
because it is the apple of the alcoholic beverage world, more marketing than substance, and women are more susceptible to products marketing on image

>>10018201
>. Historically men have enjoyed wine for centuries, it was enjoyed by Kings and knights and scholars and the greatest men in history back to the greeks.
Because it was what was available, life was fucking shit back then and people had to do all sorts of shit things because it was all that was available.

Wine is just as much or even more feminine as super fruity low alcohol mixed drinks

>>10022868
Red wine is certainly lower cal than beer. It also comes in one convenient bottle, easily transported and can close the lid. Unless corked

>>10022890
How is multi-glass bottle possibly more convenient than a six pack?

Tallboy 4 packs or 12 oz 6 packs of cans are by far the most convenient option, its super annoying when brewers use bombers instead of 4 packs, and wine should move in the same direction but it is way to entrenched in tradition

>>10022871
if your goal was simply to get wrecked you would drink liquor. Also stop drinking light beer, a nice 4 pack of some 8-10ABV stuff is great for pregaming

>>10018822
Tell me more.

>>10022825
no. the average wine drinker is our grandmothers
the only thing wine has going for it is tradition, something elderly people are much more easily swayed by

>>10022922
Meh, 20something here. Going and getting a 14% 1.75 litre bottle for 11-13 bucks, chilling it. Then getting a good buzz off it for the night is easier than picking up a 12 pack of something

>>10018425
TRIGGERED!

>>10022936
but it tastes so much less good than a nice 4 or 6 pack of excellent beer for $10

>>10022945
>6 pack for 10 dollars

What the fuck are you drinking?

>>10022957
um, all sorts of different things

>>10022945
I'd rather get eighteen modelos for $13.

>>10022970
I would rather consume good things

>>10022945
Who cares? I can get drunk off 1.75 litre of wine, for that. A 6 pack? good luck.

>>10022979
haha who the fuck wants to drink 1.75L of wine?

>>10022975
Modelo is good, you shit ass. I live in Oregon which is brimming over with faggy micro brews and "good beer". I'd rather spend my money on good whisky or wine and drink perfectly tasty Modelo. Local cider is pretty good, though.

>>10023008
Modelo is basically just water in a can

>>10023022
Negra Modelo is cool though, usually the only good beverage option at mexican restaurants

>>10023008
>I live in Oregon which is brimming over with faggy micro brews and "good beer"
Says the guy who would rather drink fucking wine or redneck beer

>>10018414
that's because bitter = poison and poison is cool and manly

>>10022996
Not saying you want to, but you can if you want to go that far.

>>10018201
Your woes are over, OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZQkKAGgfQM

>>10022996
An alcoholic, stupid.

>>10022791
it's quite the opposite from my experience.

>>10023040
women are generally drawn to super sugary things more than men, at least in adulthood across food and beverages, its not specific to beer vs wine

>>10022945
I'd drink wine over beer any day. but I am a girly boy

>>10022996
>get 1.75 litre red wine
>drink half of it
>be drunk
>decide if I want to continue drinking or save the rest
>got drunk for fairly cheap

>>10023071
the difference in cost is pretty trivial though, I would rather just get drunk on delicious beer even if it costs a little more

>>10022764
being gay is 100% wrong and vile you brainwashed individual

>>10023136
good thing I fuck dogs instead

>>10023071

Jesus, If I drink more than a litre of red I puke and not because of the alcohol content

t. somebody who has delivered a 1.5L magnum worth of merlot into a bucket

>>10018223
lemme hit cha with some facts, retard.
1 bottle of lamoneda malbec reserva wine: $6 @ wally world
1 six pack of natty light: $6 anywhere but college campuses and resorts

6 cans * 350 ml * 4.2% alc = 88 ml of alc
1 bottle * 750 ml * 12% alc = 90 ml of alc

you get drunk faster, it tastes better, and you get less fat. it is ****truly*** patrician to get drunk on wine. stay cucked by the hops jew, idiot

>>10023052
>two bikes and a trike
holy crap

>>10023532
Who the fuck buys cheap beer is six packs?
I do they even make 6 packs of Natty?
I have literally only ever seen 30 racks

>>10023532
paying $1 per 12oz of Natty Light is one of the craziest things I have ever heard

>>10023550
likewise the cheapest wine is boxed

>>10023550
>>10023555
Argue the semantics of his examples all you want, but he's right. Cheap wine is cheaper, more alcoholic, and tastes better than cheap beer.

>>10023952
Yep. If you want proof just look what the hobos are drinking.

>>10023952
just saying he used a silly example because the very idea of seeing a 6 pack of Natty is comical

Obviously you should really only get drunk on good beer with the best combination of flavor price and alcohol

>>10018425
You forgot CUCC 3 in Frisco.

>>10020725
>preppies
Awesome. I too am over 30

>>10018201
FAAAGGGGOOOOTTTTT

>>10023085
This

>>10018201
In Australia and New Zealand wine is the cheapest alcohol so bogans (our redneck equivalent) buy "cask wine" and chug it out the bag. We call them goons

>>10024609
So, are bogans the equivalent of southern whitetrash in the US? What parts of AUS and NZ do they live in? I've viewed them here and would like to compare if I ever get over there.

>all these people talking about how it's better because it's cheaper
I'll concede that it is better than cheap beer, but there is literally no reason to shell out more than $15 per bottle. At that price, you should be going for liquor. No sense being a pretentious snob when your end-goal is to get smashed. Might as well go for the higher alcohol content rather than throwing back 10 bottles to get the same effect. "Better hangovers!" be damned. Just drink a fucking gatorade before you black out.

So the actual answer is that wine in the USA is typically associated with women because women drinking are more associated with wine. Think about a girl that drinks lots of beer.... Trashy and low class. How about a girl that drinks liquor? Fucking alcky. So basically girls drinking beer or liquor are looked down upon (and rightly so). A nice cocktail or something would be perfectly acceptable, but who are we kidding? Women lazy shits. So that leaves wine, no effort required, just open the bottle and drink without looking like a trashy ho.

So yeah that's why the association between women and wine in the USA.

And for the record, any woman who casually drinks to excess, regardless of drink, is garbage and should be disregarded.

>>10018201
where tf are you where wine is considered girly

>>10024813
Anywhere there are men.

>>10024813
Not within striking distance of San Fransisco?

>>10018201
>When did wine become a mom drink?
when men moved on to chugging diesel you lil bitch, try it and put some hair on your chest

>>10018201
>"drinks only females should have"

Because something with the flavor of fruit is detrimental to the continued existence of a penis, or...? Never understood this, if it tastes good to you, enjoy it.

It might be girly to drink moscato with ice in it but not a strong red

>>10024839
Some females have a penis, shitlord

>>10024786
Its more that wine consumption is based on marketing and image, so women eat that shit up, while beer and liquor are sold on either value or taste

Its like jewellery or apple products, the only reason they are successful is because women thing they make them look better

>>10024813
literally everywhere outside southern europe

>>10024876
>apple products
Show me a better UNIX workstation, you can't because there aren't any others.

>>10024876
You were in the last thread about wine making this comparison, it was stupid then and it's stupid now

>beer isn't sold on marketing and image
give me a fucking break

>>10024895
I've never seen a craft beer commercial on television.

>>10024895
Shit beer is sold on value, good beer is sold on taste, wine is sold on image. Its no coincidence that the vast majority of apple products and wine are both bought by women

>>10024897
Beer ads are the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZpRHQPIdk0

>>10024911
>>10024876
>beer is not sold on image
>men are not susceptible to marketing

>>10021716
You're the worst kind of insufferable cunt. The one not even worth wasting breath over arguing with because your head is so far lodged up your ass.

>>10026682
>The one not even worth wasting breath over arguing
>but I'm gonna argue anyway
You sure showed him

>>10026475

My hair literally just retracted into a manbun after reading this

>>10026687
Point out to me the argument presented in my post. Also,
>very poorly pretending not to samefag
Lmao

>>10018201
Wine is patrician. If any alcohol is worth drinking, it's wine. End of story.

>>10026720
>please argue with me so I can save face while still pretending I'm not arguing with the guy I believe to be samefagging that I said I wouldn't argue with
lol
>upload failed
well fuck you then

Wine is one of those things that anyone can enjoy.
The smelly homeless man drinking alone in a public park all the way up to the richest high rollers in society.

>>10026729
>please argue with me so I can save face while still pretending I'm not arguing with the guy I believe to be samefagging that I said I wouldn't argue with

Not sure if I had a stroke while reading this or not

>>10018201
Eat shit. Fruity drinks are the best.
Fags and girls truly know how to enjoy their alcohol

>>10018201
Its not???

>>10023532
A 6 pack if natty ice 16oz 5.9% alc beers is only $3.99. Milwaukee's best ice is only $2.99 for the same amount of beer, and is 6.9% alc.

How does anyone pay attention to these faggots who say wine is for gays? These are the same people who are virgins, have no social life and are just fat little betas.

Wine production used to not exist in America, so it was an expensive import. Marketers then heavily portrayed beer as the American working man's beverage, saying the wine people couldn't afford wasn't their drink of choice anyway...so, the only people still drinking it were well off women, which meant marketers would then force the popularity of wine with women because they naturally try to rip off rich women's style anyway

>>10026737

This

Nothing beats a box of dry white wine or two before lying down in an abandoned house for a few hours

>>10027153
Wine isn't for faggots, it's for no one because it sucks dick. Cheap, expensive, middle of the road, all terrible. I've had quite a few from each category, and never had one that I'd go out of my way to have again.

>>10027153
The voice I heard in my head as I read your post was that of a flamboyantly gay soyboy who uses his limp-wrist hands when he speaks.

>>10027221
Whatever you say, little virgin.

>>10027211
You're american, so you didn't actually drink wine.

>>10027236
I bet you're German.

>>10027241
Nope. that's more of a beer place. I'm from Portugal.

>>10027248
>Portugal
I'm so sorry.

>>10027249
For being ignorant? It's not your fault, man. You're just american. Ignorance is your people's bread and butter.

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>>10027236
>everyone who disagrees with me on the internet is an American
Obsessed.

>>10027236
I'm not American.

If you're an adult male and drink wine on the regular, you're either a soyboy or on hormones beginning your transition. This is fact, no argument.

>>10023532
>it tastes better
lmao

>>10027256
>>10027257

Well, ignorance is a typical american trait. So, I guess if the guy who isn't american is as ignorant as one...

>>10027258
>says the fat virgin with less testosterone than a 90 year old man

>>10027264
>showing ignorance is typical american
kek. look at this amerifag.

>>10027264
>Says the post-op tranny

>>10027273
Whatever, fatty. Must suck being a virgin like you

>>10027303
>I lost my virginity to a brothel whore yesterday so I'm somehow better than someone who didn't

>>10018201
It isn't and it didn't. Feel better?

>>10027388
>stemmed glasses
>not feminine faggotry

>>10018902
He's right every one loves abba

>>10022970
Why so that when a 30 of hamms is $9.89

>>10018425

Jesus wept it's embarrassing someone went to the effort of even making that picture.

>>10027249
Portugal is goat af, 56%er.

>>10027548
>two circles and some text is effort
Are you by chance a dishwasher?

>>10027552
>American compensating by calling non-Americans Americans to try to pretend he isn't American

>>10027561
I wasn't pretending not to be an amerifat like you are. I merely asserted that I liked Portugal a lot having visited it with an ameristanian passport.

>>10021874
is this real

>>10027600
>amerifat like you are
I'm Welsh, you mutt. Isn't America like 63% white anyways? That is largely because of California, which is like 30% white and majority Hispanic.

>>10027616
YASS Girl! Doctor said only one glass a night, right girl LMAO. #100 #willandgrace

>>10023008
>>10023031
The main problem with Oregon beer is that they seem to be under the impression that IPAs are the only type of beer possible.

>>10027211
>not just making your own wine

>>10018383
>failed

>>10027865
Don't be mean to him. He has not gotten to eastern countries yet in his world history class.

>>10026475
beer «culture» everyone

>>10018223
That's retarded tho, tween girls love their vodka and housewives their kirsh. Wine has always been a dadcore drink.

>>10022842
>>10022855
the fuck did I just read

>>10018201
>Why is wine considered a girly or sissy drink?
It isn't, not in any country I've been to.

>>10018440
both are Head of Household.

>>10018201
You're thinking of white wine. There's also red, which is available to everybody without dishonor.

>>10018223
>only women will drink it to get tipsy or even drunk
do you even drink m8

>>10021607
yeah but it also contains like half a bottle of rum per serving

>>10023071
>>10023202
chilled white wine is far superior for getting drunk

>>10027865
>>10027883
Then who was the foundation, the barbaric Picts, Celts, or tribes of Gaul and Germania? Maybe the Abrahamics? Were you homeschooled by evangelicals?

no way

>>10018253
This. The most unmanly thing you can do is worry about whether something is unmanly. If it tastes good, drink it.

>>10028801
Only works if you naturally have a masculine instinct. If you have girly tastes, better off pretending to be a man. Unless you're a fag, obviously.

>>10028660
>the color of my rotten grape juice tells me if I’m gay
Hi Omar Mateen

>>10022906
It's more convenient if you drink it from the bottle instead of pouring a new glass every time.

>>10022911
Liquor is a good option too but a full bottle is too much, and buying half or quarter bottles is inefficient financially. A bottle of red is cheaper and comes packaged in a perfect sized bottle.

Also when I drink beer I do prefer it on the stronger side, but again strong beer that tastes decent is expensive

>>10029938
Point of fact, drinking wine makes you picky like a woman. this post proves it.

>>10030075
Read the post lad. I drink all kinds of booze I'm simply defending wine

>>10030750
>denies being picky after blatantly being picky
Just like a woman

>>10018757
>female majority
no, just a few attn. hungry roasties. The only difference between this board and other boards is that this one tells them to fuck off less because the fat fucks here are thirstier than all of soc combined.

>>10030764
I love you.

>>10030764
Nothing wrong with a bottle of wine sometimes chief sorry if that upsets you

>>10021634
That one is alright though.

>>10018213
This, wine tastes good so that means it's for women to fuckheads.

>>10018201
Wine is consumed equally by both genders of the upper class and lower class. Upper class because snobbery, lower class because who cares as long as it's alcohol.

Only the middle class is stupid enough to turn it into a gender issue.

>>10031750
You can say only the middle and lower class will turn anything into a gender issue.

>>10018201
>Why is wine considered a girly or sissy drink?
Because the French like it.
>I think there are drinks that only females should have, like fruity cocktails etc
Congratulations, you're autistic.
>Historically men have enjoyed wine for centuries, it was enjoyed by Kings and knights and scholars and the greatest men in history back to the greeks.
And especially the French, who got the US into Vietnam and then pussied out, and that after a long tradition of being absolute pushovers in war, which strangely followed an equally long tradition of excelling at it. I think the rise of the pike broke their nation's spirit.
>When did wine become a mom drink?
When moms became obsessed with "romantic" things like France.

>>10018201
Either chicken or egg, but the markets have responded based on demand. You don't see Skinny Girl beer, or those myriads of "ultra manly" labeled craft wine. Anyone who says otherwise is plainly denying reality.

>>10032513
>And especially the French, who got the US into Vietnam and then pussied out, and that after a long tradition of being absolute pushovers in war, which strangely followed an equally long tradition of excelling at it.

yet their current government can still be pretty brutal when they want to be

>>10018201
>TIL amerimutt women drink cheap wine

>>10018201
>Historically men have enjoyed wine for centuries, it was enjoyed by Kings and knights and scholars and the greatest men in history back to the greeks.

>>10024648
sort of. You can find them in both rural and urban areas in literally any part of the country but always in the poorer parts of town. Logan in Queensland is basically the bogan spawning ground, at least where I'm from.

Mind you, it's also become a fashionable thing for middle-class uni educated people to LARP as bogans for some reason.

>>10019565
Only /cgl/. You can tell by just looking at what every thread is about, but also by how toxic they are (compared to the rest of 4chan) towards people who's trying to discuss something they are against; just like in workplaces where females are in a majority.

/ck/ is probably 50/50 at best

>>10032554
Light beer is marketed entirely on having less calories than normal beer.

>>10032911
>Mind you, it's also become a fashionable thing for middle-class uni educated people to LARP as bogans for some reason.
We had that in the USA for a little while back in the early '00s.

>>10018201
Wine is ONLY to be drank with cute shotas. No exceptions!

>>10018358
Never understood the hate for hard ciders. My father is a pretty traditional Midwestern white man and absofuckinglutly refuses to go near one. Even the really good craft ones.

>>10018482
A true American should be inherently treasonous toward any and all government. Taxation is undeniably theft as well.
So no, a real American should drink whiskey. Preferably of the bourbon variety .

>>10033342
Michael, get back in your grave.

>>10033349
in some parts, it's associated with woman and homosexual men. which isn't strictly untrue since those people love cider.

>>10033355
>bourbon
that's not how you spell moonshine

waste of digits desu

>>10018201
>wine is a girly or sissy drink
Literally nobody thinks that here. Wine is a staple in Italian cuisine and choosing a good one is part of what makes a meal worth it

>>10018201
I like fruity cocktails, fucking sue me asshole.

>>10021824
>American Facebook memes
So American women drink wine, so this makes it a woman/faggy drink? Why are Americans so insecure?

>>10033481
And you wash it down with some cool Soylent too, I imagine.

>>10018482
>someone points out that American made alcohol historically was beer and whisky
>this triggers someone to go on off on a retarded lefty rant

This fucking board

>>10018425
>20 signs you live in a conservative bubble

>>10033587
>why can't everyone go along with our rewrite of history to match our cuckservative fantasies? *gnashes teeth, pulls hair out*

>>10033818
You're genuinely crazy.

>>10034318
/ck/ is a common place for crazy fucks

>>10033470
>Italian cuisine
>manly
>edible
You're American or Italian, aren't you?

>>10034400
Stay mad, frog

Can anyone tell an alcohol newbie how girly liquors are?

>>10018201
>Why is wine considered a girly or sissy drink?

thats in usa, and because french wines are famous and they hate the french and consider them fags

in the rest of the civilized world red wine is a drink for men, white wine is for women and rosé is for faggots

>>10035084

Wine is hugely popular among 'merican millenial aged numales and californian faggots. Only old craggly hard men still drink whiskey which is why it's dying.

>>10021635
Do you have to ask for cue cards every month to St Petersburg or how being a mentally challenged alt reichter works?

>>10035101
did you know that california vineyards existed before your shit puritan colony?

did you know you should be actually proud of american wines since they beat the crap out of french wines in 76?

shit niga, could you develop your own ideas instead of repeating slogans? You havent seen a "merican millenial numale" in real life in your fucking life, just pol memes!

>>10035123

I didn't expect a simple post to trigger the numales this much. Defensive little faggots aren't you? lol

>>10035059
My own uninformed meme-spouting opinion:
Rum is for college kids of either gender. Vodka is for cheap alcoholics (by itself) and college girls (mixed). Whisky is drank mostly by white men of any kind for different reasons. Gin is for men of culture and old ladies (basically the male equivalent of vodka alcoholics).

>the country where gay pride parades were born, where San Francisco is located, where drag shows were created and over 50% of all men in college are lipwristed "bisexuals" call other countries gay and are obsessed with manliness

upper kek

>"wine is for sissy little girly fags!"
>literally on an image board for food and cooking

If your beer makes you so manly, go chop some wood or some shit. I'll be sitting inside sipping my Bordeaux by a fire, enjoying myself and not worrying if internet fags think my tastes are "gay"

>>10035192
>obsessed with manliness
This gets to the root of the matter. There's a large percent of uneducated white males in the US who have been left behind due to the rapid acceleration of technology and long for a past fantasy John Wayne world of rough and tumble men. They are so insecure in their masculinity, oftentimes closeted, they create strawmen like wine and soy as being symbols of the feminization of the US male, when it's really the reliance on technology that has made the masculine male a symbol of low paying manual labor and thus unattractive as a breed mate to females. Ironically, these self-same folks are generally basement dwelling, fatfuck, gril titted losers the polar opposite of masculinity.