/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14474062
Whites are not pathologically altruistic. Definitely no more than other races. The white race has committed just as many(some would even argue even more) genocides as other races.

It's not that I'm "okay" with killing animals, but I understand that it's something I have to do. I agree with the sentiment that if people eat meat they should kill the animal itself and experience it's soul leave its body (which is something you actually feel when in the presence of something dying). It's not supposed to be enjoyable, rather a somber, humbling experience that reminds us that we are all only here for a short time until we move on to the next thing.

I believe the growth of veganisim has come during a time when the majority of humanity has become more disconnected with their food than ever before. I think it's a horrible thing.
Food should be so much more than food. It should have a story and significance to the consumer, so much deeper than nutrients and calories, it should bring significance to the moment in time connecting both the consumer and the consumed.

>>14447165
>real news: gigantic faggot scared that ruminants that live on their natural diet may not be what's destroying the earth, doesn't want to accept that maybe massive factories burning trillions of gallons of oil and fossil fuel isn't exactly doing our environment any favors.

>>14404623
Those deaths for crops are NOT indirect. If spraying crops (and the homes of these wild animals) with pesticide is not direct and deliberate killing of animals, then gassing the jews with pesticides (zyklon b) was also indirect.

You can't pick and choose which death is more justified. All animals, and in fact all living things fight to live and don't want to die. Just because you waste the flesh they leave behind doesn't make you a better person. Things have to die in order for you to live.

I bet you also support peta, who steals peoples pets and gasses them because "they are suffering just by existing"

P.S If you take supplimental B12 you are supporting the mining of cobalt even more than some jackass who constantly buys the latest smart phone every year. Since you are literally consuming the cobalt and you need to take it all the time.

Also tell me how you can minimize crop deaths on these massive monocultures? Especially when its been shown that you can minimize wildlife suffering by just having cattle on their natural diet. Are you proposing we kill all the wildlife?

>>14358836
Yeah you're right, idk where I heard they don't fart.... They do fart, but don't all animals? Is it really the farts or is it potentially something else? I mean, cows and other bovines have been around in massive herds forever, even before man. And our environment has only really been taking a shit since the industrial revolution and the rise of oil barons. Is that just a coincidence?

>>14271217
You mean prevent many future animal lives.

desu I have no idea how much fetal bovine serum is needed to even make the meat, so far they can only make a half ounce of a grotesque inedible ground beef clone. How many tortured baby cows is that? Do we really want to support this?

Cows (or any livestock for that matter) aren't the enemy here. They have been around for millions of years and have only very recently become a problem due to our mismanagement of them.

Cattle have an essential role to play, especially since we no longer have a civilization set up for herds of millions of bison in the west like we did 150 years ago.

Our soil is being desertified by crop production, we take all the carbon (in the form of plants) from the soil after they suck up the nutrients. We have no topsoil left and we are running on petroleum based synthetic fertility.
Why not return these cropfields to grasslands and just have cows on them? Rotate the cattle to prevent overgrazing and their droppings will fertilize the grass and their pruning (grazing) stimulates growth.

We all came from nature, why do we try to fight her?

As long as you live in the city you will never be able to eat well. You must flee the metropolis and return to your true home and reclaim your God given right as a steward of the land, working to increase land fertility in exchange for it's fruits to keep you going. That is the only natural diet of man.

>>14205940
The papers you are looking at for these statistics have so many confounding variables its not even funny.

You know nothing about industrial, postmodern, post Earl Butz agriculture. And you probably assume I support it.
You will run to the whole "well animal feed is worse than human feed" argument all the time.
Most of the subsidized cash crops grown are primarily for humans.
Ethanol, corn syrup, corn oil, processed foods, maltodexterin, etc all corn products for HUMANS.
These products will produce a byproduct inedible to humans. Those go to feeding livestock.
And I don't even support surplus artificially cheap cash crops. They cause acidosis in cattle and make poor quality meat.
I know about these things because I live in very close proximity to farmers and actually decided to become a subsistence farmer/homesteader instead of a useless consumer like you.

And honestly, if having more land for grazing livestock means more land healing, instead of thousands of acres being destroyed all the way down to the bacteria, I'll take that.

I bet you are so ignorant you think cows actually kill grass.
They don't. They prune grass, and when the herd moves the grass grows faster, and the soil organic matter becomes more diverse and sequesters more carbon, because the cow pisses and shits all over the pasture. It's a perfect symbiotic system that has worked for millions of years, and vegans want to destroy it.

>>13803954
None of this is true for me. I mean I believe regenerative agriculture is the only way to heal the Earth, but it will require more people to take up farming to make it more available to more people. I don't even think its a bad thing for it to take more land (though I read somewhere this one guy was raising a million lbs of beef per acre).
Plus it's better for the environment than crop mono cultures.
And as far as resources go... I'm not quite sure what you mean? Based on my research it uses LESS resources, considering you don't till or use any chemical pesticides or fertilizers, and you only harvest whatever your animals don't eat. It would be a much more efficient way to feed animals than corn and soy fields.

You should do your part and become a farmer. Grow as much of your own food as possible. Stop sucking oligarch cock.

>>13777909

You act like it's impossible to get out of the city and move to the country and start a farm.

I'm moving out in a couple months, there is land available this very fertile area for cheap. And even entry level jobs in the area to supplement my income if I need extra money while setting up.

My end goal on the farm is to increase wildlife biodiversity, so idk about your less wildlife thing.

Tbh I don't really know what you're getting all capslocky for. I'm not a vegan.

>>13751593
>bovine emissions
You do realize ruminant herbivores have carpeted most of the world for millennia?

Are you sure it's the cows and not tilling millions of acres, growing giant crop mono cultures and cheap globalized trade?