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>>19358778
>How'd they get so big? There's hardly any other coffee shops around anymore.
Not gonna read this long shit thread but let me chime in with some ancient boomer wisdom. Until 1995 or so, in America, "coffee shops" were found only in big cities and college towns. Otherwise, if you wanted coffee, you went to 7-Eleven, or McDonald's, or a gas station, or most importantly, an old-school DINER, the last being the classic mid-20th century American coffee experience (you can almost hear /ctg/ having an aneurysm over the sound of the percolator). In those days, nobody cared about wifi, nobody was ordering venti pumpkin-spice milkshakes, and nobody was pretending to write a screenplay in public on his Macbook. The 1990/2000s massive expansion of Starbucks, for all its faults, was not putting local cafes out of business, it was installing cafes where cafes did not exist before. Personally I am not a fan of Starbucks these days, but if a local cafe fails, it's likely because of other reasons, not Starbucks competition.

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>>16591759
>The food from twin peaks looked good. Cherry pies. Huckleberry pies.

Twin Peaks is kino and Cooper always makes me want coffee.

>I also have this fascination with American diners in all those movies. Please tell me the food is good in diners. Or at least good in terms of pricing.

In my experience (Eastern US): Menus are large (10+ pages) with an emphasis on filling "comfort food", all-day fried breakfast, and unlimited coffee refills. In New England, many of the old diners were owned by Greek immigrants and still have a few token Greek (or Americanized Greek) items on the menu. It's not the cheapest, and never the best, but the portions are huge; you'll never leave hungry and may even take leftovers to-go. Many diners here are open 24/7, convenient for night owls as well as obnoxious drunk partiers. Diners near the highway can be pretty large, not so quaint, and they get a lot of travelers and tourists, since people "know what to expect." But most will still have an option for eating at the counter (ideal for singles) instead of a table or booth. Booths are comfy. In the cities, there are some "upscale/gourmet" diners, but they lack charm. The culture is probably somewhat different out West, and especially in small towns like those depicted on the show.

American coffee is not (and is not supposed to be like) European espresso. But IMHO American diner coffee, its characteristic heavy stoneware cups and saucers, and unlimited "warm-up" refills from a waitress who still dresses like a woman--this is just as important and iconic as a European or Seattle-style cafe, and I should rather have one diner in town than a thousand Starbucks.

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