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saishikomi > everything

other soy sauce tastes like water compared to it.

>>4322365
oh and some butter

>>4322303
>>4322303

I just made some today.

a lot of garam masala, some tomatoe paste or ketchup, a little flour, some water or stock, some cayenne pepper and a some tonkatsu sauce.

add carrot/potato/okra/any veggie and serve with udon or rice.

>>4288656
thx, will try it soon

>>4288622
that looks good!

Recipe?

Its evening here and I am just eating a delicious lentil soup (with red pepper, parsley, croutons) made from the leftover lentils of yesterdays daal.

Looks awesome, too, but I don't ahve a cam.

>>4265418
and and like >>4265266 said, make sure the tofu is really firm. One time got a brand I didn't knew and even though it said firm my dish turned into something resembling scrambled eggs.

The most important thing for tofu to be nice is marinating. Marinate in chicken spices for nuggets, marinate in soy sauce, rice wine and hosin sauce for szechuan tofu etc.

>>4264807
look into middle eastern, east asian and indian cuisine.

all pulses are your friends.

beans and rice or chili sin carne with tortilla or arabian bread.

and my favourite dish: Szechuan/Mapo tofu. Ge some tofu, marinade it for a hour or so, cover in flour, fry it in oil with szechuan pepper, add some hoisin sauce and black bean paste if you like.

Also nice: vegetarian ground
Get some veggie burgers, cut them into pieces and smash them with a fork until they resemble ground meat. Fry with pepper, thyme, rosemary, basil, onions and garlic.
Serve with whole grain pasta or roll into russian pancakes (blini). Can also be used in chilis etc. (wherever you would use ground meat).

>>4262707
Breakfast:
Oatz with milk, earl grey

Lunch:
two hashbrowns, one korokke, green tea

Dinner
self made (rather hot) dal tadka with okra, ceylon tea

amphetamines

>>4259273
>>4259292

fuck this thread

>>4259262
edgy alert.

>>4259001

Fish react the same way as humans do when confronted with pain. When given opiates they react similar as humans (showing less reaction to pain).

This alone is enough to make it as likely they experience pain as humans do. And their absence of a neocortex is irrelevant to this, because of two reasons:

1. the connection between consciousness and neocortex can not be made, because of the qualia problem (pain as qualia argument)

2. the mere neurological tasks the cortex and other higher structures have regarding pain are obviously located differently in fish because they behave the same way when confronted with pain.
Iit is known that different animals locate tasks differently from humans. For example in birds enlarged parts of the striatum correlate with what humans do in the prefrontal cortex. As your article said "different species can use different brain structures and systems to handle the same functions."
(pain as neurological pattern argument)

>>4258966
uurgh it hurts

sry I don't know how to make it any easier

>>4258919
read again, think about what I wrote.

I can't argue with you if you don't understand what I am saying.

No neurological discovery ever can solve the qualia problem, thats a priori impossible.

But if we use "pain" as certain neurological patterns we DO find it in humans and frogs, so on that basis it can be said that frogs feel pain.

What I am getting at is we can say frogs feel pain under that definition and make hypothesis out of that and falsify them etc. but we can never say that a frog or another human being has the same feeling of pain in his conscious (this is called qualia) as you do when these neurological patterns arise.

So that pseudo-scientific bullcrap that "biologist" garbled makes no sense. He said frogs have the opiod recepters etc. necessery for pain but we can't know if they have the same qualia. As I explained many times now, that is not a useful argument.

ok to make it simpler for the morons:

you know how there is this funny thought experiment that what you see as red might be blue for another person. But since everything that you see as red appears as what you would call "blue", for him "blue" is red. Nobody can ever know or prove that and we might all see colours in a different way.

And its the same with pain. You can't see into other peoples head and prove that they actually have pain. You only see the output (physiological reaction, what they say, what they do etc.)

So yeah, of course I don't know if a frog feels pain like me, no shit sherlock. But I also don't know if a human feels pain like me.

So if you use this against frogs you should also use it against all other humans to be consistent.

>>4258905

fucking hell read my post.

the feel part has nothing to do with the argument, its just a personal statement.

It is a logical fact though that because of the qualia problem you can never say what a other human or animal really feels, you can only observe its reactions.

>>4257937
>He went from "frogs don't feel pain," to "frogs don't feel pain as we generally know it," citing receptors and reactions. Also knowing that not all frogs are the same, and that the a specific species (probably in this video) actually does have the capacity for pain like we know it. I thought it was pretty fascinating.

bullshit.

you don't know if other people feel pain like you do. this is the qualia problem and unsolvable by science.

Thus you have as much reason to believe other humans experience pain as you have to believe frogs feel pain.

I think other humans feel pain and I also think frogs feel pain.

This is why scientists should have a basic understanding of logic and epistemology.

fucking barbaric.

I tried honey+steak sauce and chili powder today, out of boredom, and it was fucking awesome

>>4247999
nope, hash browns are small potatoe stripes shaped to cakes and often made with onions.

ops is talking fried potatoes aka house potatoes

>>4247945
You can boil them or not boil them.

By boiling them you will get fired potatoes/home fries/bratkartoffeln, by not boiling pommes sautées.

other goat dishes that you can make of fired potatoes are Dum Aloo or Batata Harra.

>>4082476
fucking idiot, do you even sci?

certain spices have antibacterial, antiinflammatory and antiviral effects. These WILL keep bacteria at bay, which is one of the reason they are used mainly in cultures living in the tropical zone (high temperature, high moisture = bacterium breeding ground).

Examples of such spices are everything with Capsaicin, garlic, onion, oregano, allspice and ginger.
These plants evolved these antimicrobial ingredients to defend themselves against microbes. They have been widely used by humans before the invention of refrigeration to prevent food spoilage.

Honey is also antimicrobial btw and has been used to desinfect wounds in the olde days

>>4010302

kinda straw-manny; almost all of the issues are only concerning for vegans

there are a lot of good all around protein choices for vegetarians; tofu, white bread + peanut butter, beans and rice, khichdi (lentils and rice) etc.