/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>8996471
Its a common comfort food in japan.

>>8996069
Also, I found that the hotter the oven the better the results for when I was firing them at work. Like 450+. I one time ran a service with the oven at 500 and my dutch pancakes would poof up MASSIVELY and it was awesome.

>>8996064
I ran brunch at a fine dining restaurant for a year that we served a dutch pancake. Just getting the heat right and using enough fat to lubricate the pan is the key.

We served them is lardons (thick bacon bits slowly rendered),whatever seasonal fruit( which is strawberries right now, black berries in a couple weeks) and then maple syrup and some powdered sugar. Shits really nice if you do it right. Getting it to poof up properly is the hard part obv. Its best to use a blender to make the batter and make sure its smooth AF.

>>8959003
....well i guess it no longer exists in that form. The new one looks even more amazing.

>>8958534
Lol just making sure. Id give my left nut just to stand in that kitchen.

>>8956078
Do you seriously not recognize that kitchen? What exactly are you pointing out in that pic that grosses you out?

>>8915863
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Having to educate some niggas today. You guys should be glad Im even wasting my time on you.

>>8915852
Yes, thats devaluing the argument because Im a trip to avoid actually having to respond.

"You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument."

>>8915834
Calling someone a pseudo-science retard isnt an adhominem. Im not saying theyre retards and that makes their argument invalid. Im saying theyre retards because of the argument presented is retarded. Learn the difference bro.

"im not going to listen to you because youre a faggot"- adhominem

"youre a faggot because of your argument"- not an adhominem

>>8915809
Because of your bias you're not going to accept the opinion of actual scientists and people in the medical field that actually see the front lines of this shit. I cant help you. But please, continue wasting money and spouting pseudoscience.

>>8915796
Annnnd we've made it to ad-hominems.

Fucking pseudoscience retards. I really wish you guys would just stop.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/12/17/251955878/the-case-against-multivitamins-grows-stronger

>"I think this is a great example of how our intuition leads us astray," Salzberg told Shots. "It seems reasonable that if a little bit of something is good for you, then more should be better for you. It's not true. Supplementation with extra vitamins or micronutrients doesn't really benefit you if you don't have a deficiency."

Thats the opinion of this dude

https://salzberg-lab.org/in-the-news/about-me/

But feel free to think that your stupid asses knows more.

>“Pills are not a shortcut to better health and the prevention of chronic diseases,” says Larry Appel, M.D., director of the Johns Hopkins Welch Center for Prevention, Epidemiology and Clinical Research. “Other nutrition recommendations have much stronger evidence of benefits—eating a healthy diet, maintaining a healthy weight, and reducing the amount of saturated fat, trans fat, sodium and sugar you eat.”

>The exception is supplemental folic acid for women of child-bearing potential, Appel says. “Folic acid prevents neural tube defects in babies when women take it before and during early pregnancy. That’s why multivitamins are recommended for young women.” The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that all women of reproductive age get 400 micrograms of folic acid daily. The amount of iron in a multivitamin may also be beneficial for women of child-bearing potential, Appel adds.

>>8915728
Yep. And my article actually directly says that a study cited in yours is bullshit.

Also I randomly followed one of the sources and the claim in the study you linked totally doesnt match what the conclusion of the study they were citing.

Fuck off.

This whole article is cherry picking and misrepresenting original studies rather than a true meta-analysis.

Further if you just google "vitamin health benfits"

Literally all of the first top 10 links state that literally all that you need to do to get the vitamins you need is maintain a normal diet. But by all means. Spend 60 dollars on a vitamin you already put in your body by eating.

>>8915720
>peer reviewed meta-analysis

>biased science

Lol kay.

"vitamins dont work"

"yes they do"

>posts meta-analysis that proves that they dont

"b-b-but those vitamins dont count, studies that have included literally thousands over multiple years and that were peer-reviewed dont count either. Youre dense AF"

>>8915696
Ive posted literally the only actual science that exists in this thread.

Post PEER-REVIEWED meta-analysis of any studies arguing for the usefulness of vitamins and supplements or shut the fuck up.

>>8915668
Thats classic science denial. Youre denying the method in which those studies took place and that the compilation of the data that this article is using isnt worthy of interpretation because of it.

That article I posted cites 33 different opinions dude.

How many do you need?
>>8915682
Yes it does

Also, neither of you are posting conflicting studies proving their usefulness. Youre just arguing out of your ass.

In the United States, 40 – 50% of the men and women 50 years of age or older regularly use multivitamin/mineral (MVM) supplements, making the annual sales of these supplements over $11 billion. However, the question remains whether using MVM supplements is beneficial to health. This article reviews the results of randomized studies of MVM supplements and individual vitamins/mineral supplements in relation to overall mortality and incidence of chronic diseases, particularly cancer and ischemic heart disease. The results of large-scale randomized trials show that, for the majority of the population, there is no overall benefit from taking MVM supplements. Indeed, some studies have shown increased risk of cancers in relation to using certain vitamins.

Is anyone else having problems with the captcha?

>>8915634
>>8915644
Its a study of other studies. Stop denying science. Neither of you actually clicked the link and bothered to read the abstract.

>>8915614
Thus far, several meta-analyses, authoritative reviews, and expert panel reports have been published on the use of MVMs in preventing chronic diseases in healthy individuals. Almost all have found no overall benefit. For example, a systematic review and meta-analysis, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), in 2007, concluded that, “Treatment with β-carotene, vitamin A, and vitamin E may increase mortality. The potential roles of vitamin C and selenium on mortality need further study”.[19] Another more recent meta-analysis concluded that, “Dietary supplementation with folic acid to lower homocysteine levels had no significant effects within five years on cardiovascular events or on overall cancer or mortality in the populations studied”