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Previous thread is being autosaged >>7444730

Is your comms know-it-all dictator still get on your nerves? Or perhaps your local community is sweet on the outside but gossipy behind everyones backs? I have no idea, but basically this is a lolita comm rant thread part 2. Gossip gets bonus points.

>> No.7449904

Where are the girls talking about rebelling from Houston lolita comm and creating your own because I would love to join. Half of hlc looks ita as fuck or are just weabs while the other half are elitist cunts.

>> No.7449908

>>7449904
>weabs

>> No.7449919

>>7449904
I will join south houston comm if it is created in a heartbeat, or maybe a j fashion comm even, but am not high enough in the group to be taken seriously if i made my own comm.

>> No.7449925

>>7449904
Call it something stupid like delta alpha frill. I dare you. We can be glorious, a lolita secret society hurr.

>> No.7449959

>>7449904
I'd consider joining this new Houston comm... even though I live an hour away.

>> No.7450000
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7450000

Our comms dictator posted the other day that we are going to have to celebrate International Lolita Day on the third week of June because she is going on vacation.

It wasn't a request, it was a statement.

Other bullshit:
> Shit talks people who don't have time/can't make it to her meets
> If someone owns the same dress as her, they are 'stealing her style', even if it's a dress reserve and they received it at the same time
> Has called herself our 'queen' on more than one occasion
> Has actively tried to have meets that other people set up canceled or sabotaged out of pettiness
> Will bring up the 'replica debate' at the drop of the hat just to rant for six hours even when no one is arguing with her
> Has tossed food at other people for hogging the attention
> Constantly lifts up her skirt and shows her bloomers (again for attention)
> SCREAMS. Almost all the time.

>> No.7450016

>>7450000
Sounds like you need to celebrate lolita day without her.
Dethroning party, to which she is not invited? Plz

>> No.7450043

>>7450016
I want to come to the dethroning party and I have no idea where your comm is.

>> No.7450058

>>7450000
F that, ILD doesn't change for anyone, globally. Meet on the day because it's the day, screw missing it just because she's on vacay.
If the meet is nice, schedule more without her. Private meets are pretty common, excluding the troublemakers. Even if they are the leaders.
Sounds like the Queen might need to take a chil pill.

>> No.7450064

>>7450000
We have one like that in our comm too. Thinks she runs the comm, accuses people of copying her if they own the same dress, treats everyone like shit and commandeers other people's meets... I hope she fucks up badly enough to get banned soon, everyone is sick of her.

>> No.7450065

>>7450000
LOL I think I am from your comm. I wondered if she'd get posted in here.

>> No.7450076

>>7450000
She reminds me of myself back when I was a freshman in high school. Turns out I had a huge superiority complex because I was a lonely loser nerd.

>> No.7450081

>>7450076
>huge superiority complex because I was a lonely loser nerd
Oh this is me
how to fix?

>> No.7450098

>>7450081
Making friends that passionately share the same hobbies as you really helps. If you find at least one person you can truly be yourself around (no matter how rotten) you'll stop having to hide behind the fake confidence as much.

I also started dating my partner later that same year. We've been together 9 years and I haven't been a lonely loser nerd since.

I'm not telling you to rush into a romantic relationship with someone, though. Just find someone you can be yourself with. It's a huge breath of fresh air.

>> No.7450118

>>7450065
The Pine Tree State, anon?

>> No.7450185

Continuing from the old thread
>>7449078
I have the same problem. I thought that by planning it THREE months in advanced would build up the interest but now it's only a few days away and I'm going to have to cancel my tea party. Sure I got lots of people who SAID they were interested and wanted to pay the DAY OF but that's not how the real world works. I even spent days trying to find a cheap place so that seats would only be $15. There are people who cannot afford 15.

I'm done.

Not to mention some random noob comes out of no where (who doesn't even own anything) who starts to plan a public/park event that's pretty much the same damn event. Clearly has not been to any meet ups before to know that park meet ups tend to suck and it's impossible to bring anything like tea pots.

>> No.7450304

Does anyone know which comm York, UK comes under? I finally feel like I could go out and attend a meet.

>> No.7450320

>>7450185
Well, park is at least a public place so it is cheaper. I do see the reasoning why, but if they cant even afford 15$, they arent going to be able to deal with meets. If you are comforable with it, you could try at a home but then do a pot luck.

Park is better for like taking pictures not a tea party.

>> No.7450328
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My comm is awful when it comes to the actual meets. Whenever I organize anything big like a dinner and play or tea party, I'll have one or two people who end up coming. So I stick to organizing small cafe get togethers or mall crawling and I"ll have a ton of people come but most will complain we do the same thing every time. Then when I don't organize anything, they ask why we don't have a meet organized for that month!!

>> No.7450340

>>7450185

I never understand how lolitas are so stingy about paying for meetups, but somehow they can afford this fashion? What the fuck is the point of wearing lolita if you can't even shell out $15 for a meetup.

>> No.7450390

>>7450340
Agreed
I'm planning on going to somebody's tea bullshit in a month for 40, but it seems fancy and shit so whatever, right?

>> No.7450392

>>7450340
$15 for a meetup is a great price, too. Cheaplitas...

>> No.7450461

>>7450340
What I really hate is when girls complain about the price of whatever the meetup is, and then buy a new dress to wear to it...um what?

>> No.7450465

I have a lot of fun at my comm's meetups, but I feel like we don't have enough of them, it's usually once every two months or so at best. I guess I should count myself lucky that I actually have a comm I don't mind being seen in public with, though.

>> No.7450540

>>7450118
Ayuh.

>> No.7450560

>>7450328
That is the cutest fucking seagull I've ever seen! Any source?

>> No.7450567

>>7450560
That's... A pigeon...

>> No.7450579
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I mentioned in the confession thread my comm is filled with itas, but what I didn't mention is even the members who have been there awhile aren't really that great with coords. Everyone is kind of "eh" tier and I want to critique but I don't want to come off as the bitchy new girl. It doesn't help everyone is pretty nice.

>> No.7450584

>>7450560
http://www.deviantart.com/art/I-can-explain-359753332

>> No.7450581

>>7450579
obviously you should post them all on secrets
only kind of joking

>> No.7450585

>>7450328
maybe you should tell them why you stopped organizing meets. they can't get mad, it's a good reason and maybe they'll be more mindful about rsvps.

>> No.7450587

>>7450000
Is this real life? Hold private meet, celebrate ILD, and everyone stop going to her meets.

>> No.7450591

>>7450328
I know your feel, sis. No one comes to my meets, though. So I just stopped planning them.

>> No.7450595

>>7450000
Not the girl you have posted about, but from the comm.
I do agree that the idl thing was sorta bitchy, but I really don't think she's usually as bad as you make her out to be. Pretty sure calling herself queen was a joke? And she is definitely not the only one with the bloomers thing.
Still, I got pretty annoyed with the whole ild thing.

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>>7450581
I've debated doing that but our comm isn't that big and we're pretty much drama free. I'd love to stir up the pot but their niceness kills my dramawhore heart...

>> No.7450605

>>7450185
When you mention they wanted to pay the day of, was that instead of paying in advance or they rsvped at the last minute?
For tea parties you should limit the number of seats available or have people pay for their seat in advance so you don't run into trouble with being able to rent the venue.
I find that when seat are limited it drives up the interest and people are quick to rsvp. And if you get enough interest next time you can open it up to a larger group.

>> No.7450612

>>7450567
That's what it looked like but I said seagull cause... well... cgl... yeah.

>> No.7450613

>>7450465
organize a meetup then. When I want to do something I suck it up and plan it myself. It takes a lot of work, you shouldn't complain unless you're helping out.

>> No.7450616

"Its only a fashion guise" yet its not. Its not just about the dresses or clothes, its about having a vagina and all the social bullshit that comes with it. It doesnt have to be that way but it seems even though all of you are complaining about dumb 3rd grade drama, youre secretly liking it. Did it ever occur to you that you have the power to change things you dont like?

>> No.7450619

>>7450595
I purposefully didn't say the comm until someone asked because I do like her a lot. I think she just needs to calm the hell down.

And yeah... the bloomer thing is just plain weird and I wish everyone would stop doing it. Why is that a 'thing' in our comm? It's something five-year-olds do before they know better and it's super awkward.

>> No.7450635

>>7450304
There is a York group but its not really active, your best bet is the Leeds comm from what I have heard they are a really fun comm. They also meet at least twice a month

>> No.7450643

>>7450595
Yeah, she can be sort of clueless and overprivileged, but I think she means well. Though I guess I haven't encountered any of the shit talking or food throwing...

>> No.7450668

>>7450643
I think there may have been a bit of smooshing cupcakes in the face, if I recall correctly, but not anything uncalled for. Never seen shit talking. And wasn't the replica thing some other chick?

>> No.7450666

>>7450605
They want to pay the day of, as in, I have no assurance that they will show up at all and be short on venue fee or having taken money from my own pocket. I have even met a few of them in person throughout the mouth and they did not have money on them (if not having a paypal was the case).

Man, if all the people who RSVPed on the facebook event page paid I would not be having this problem.

>> No.7450677

>>7450635
Thanks, I'll give them a shot!

>Dead comm in what should be one of the most lolita aesthetic cities in the country
Posh tearooms out the ass but nobody to go with, what a shame. I know there are others lolitas here somewhere though.

>> No.7450707

>>7450613
The thing is I'm not sure if I'm allowed to. I'm fairly new, but it seems like only the admin is allowed to organize meetups. Other people make suggestions, but it looks like she has the final say. I wouldn't mind hosting, but I don't want to seem like I'm stepping on her toes or anything.

>> No.7450713

>>7450668
There are 2 replica crazies in the comm

And what exactly is 'not anything uncalled for'? Like, when is it okay and when is it not okay to shove food in someone else's face when they are wearing expensive clothes as a 'surprise'? I don't dislike her. I just wish she would take a breath before she did things 50% of the time.

>> No.7450722

>>7450707
It's a goddamn community she doesn't own you guys. I can't stand mods like that. The only power they have is over a FB page. Seriously.

Organize some meets! If she thinks you're "stepping on her toes" then she has some intense control issues.

Oh and don't ~~ask~~ her to organize a meet, just do it. You don't need permission in any form.

>> No.7450732

>>7450304
Fb search turned up this; facebook /groups/257996174256864/?fref=ts

>> No.7450742

There was so much never ending drama in my comm that when I moved I took a vow of meet up chastity so that my frills should never again be tainted by petty bullshit. I've been quite happy. I like to think there is an unspoken sisterhood of lone lolitas.

>> No.7450753

>>7450722
I guess you're right! She seems like a pretty reasonable person so I don't think she'd mind someone else organizing a meet and as you said, if she does mind, she's probably some kind of control freak. I think I'll give it a try after all! Thanks for the advice, anon.

>> No.7450756

>>7450742
I really respect that you have the confidence to do that. I'd still wear lolita without a comm but much, much less frequently. I get really self-conscious about how attention grabbing my clothing is when I'm out in public, especially in my city where PINK sweatpants, uggs, and a tank top are practically the uniform. Walking around by myself makes me feel like a weirdo - walking around with a group makes it look like we're doing something on purpose, and maybe we still look weird but there's enough of us weirdos to make it cohesive, if that makes sense?

>> No.7450770

I'm sick and depressed of my comm's apathy. Unfortunately I live in a large state and live in a town that is 2-3 hours away from any sort of thriving comm. I just want to be able to meet up with girls that are as passionate about the fashion as I am, but apparently that's not possible in this town.

We had planned on a meet this coming Saturday a month ago, but nothing happened with it, and the event page wasn't even made until today. I'm tempted to take control of the group, but I don't know if it's worth my effort. I'm to the point where I'd rather spend my time, money, and energy helping out with one of the other nearby comms that are actually active and full of girls that care.

I'm hosting two panels at a con in my town, with the hope that it might generate some interest with girls in the area, but I'm afraid even that might be too much to ask. In the event I can get some girls interested in coming to a meet, will they stick around? Will they truly be interested in growing their wardrobes and coordinate skills?

I just want to be part of a comm that gives a damn. Is that too much to ask?

>> No.7450771

>>7450756
That makes perfect sense. There's a sense of security in being in a group as well. Nothing wrong with that unless the group is toxic, like mine was.

>> No.7450773

>>7450666
You're being too lenient. They don't get the spot until they fork over the cash, simple as that. You can explain it's to weed out flaky people and that it's not fair to take up someone else's seat if you aren't going to come.

>> No.7450783

>>7450770
If you do a good job with the panel it could bring in more people. But I'd be patient since they'll probably take a while to develop. Make sure to link them to the FB group with a card or something.

>> No.7450812
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>this is the lolita comm I'm suppose to associate with
>I'm suppose to respect these girls and their coords
>I'm suppose to respect their obesity because 'muh rights to be a lard ass'

I hate this fucking comm and I haven't even talked to any of them. I want out now.

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>>7450812

>this fucking brolita

>> No.7450824

>>7450816
> brolita
I hate to break it to you, but I think that's a woman...

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>>7450816

>the only half decent girl is wearing shitty eyelashes
>the only brand as far as the eye can see is a cheap lucky pack print that goes for MAYBE $100 and its worn terribly

Yeah, naw. I'm good. I'm just going to remain a lone lolita and save myself the embarrassment of being associated with these people. I'm here for fashion not a hugfest, thanks. So glad I haven't said a word to anyone yet so I can just slip out unnoticed.

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>>7450824

No ...

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>>7450824

Say it isn't so.

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>>7450824

That fucking satin blouse he probably got from Walmart. Urgh.

>> No.7450842

>>7450828
>>7450832
>>7450836
Sorry, anon. It just looks like a feminine jawline to me. Although I think at that size, gender is irrelevant anyway.

>> No.7450853

>>7450825
With a bit of make-up and coord advice she'd be great--she's really cute.
I get really sad when I see potential cuties with bad coords/make-up and no one around them has any advice to offer.

>> No.7450858

Checked the nearest comm and the last update on the facebook is last summer.
God I wish I knew lolita sooner. I am not sure it's dead or no one is using facebook anymore.

>> No.7450863

>>7450853

This. When I first saw the pictures of this "meet up", I thought she was the comms saving grace because she really is cute but I think she's just so less bad than the rest that she looks super good in comparison only. I wish this wasn't such an ita-tastic comm, bitches need to get their shit together.

>> No.7450867

>>7450812
There's a nice button you can press to eject yourself from the group sandy vag chan.

>> No.7450876

>>7450863
To be honest, from the pictures posted, most of them are on the right track but maybe just need some guidance refining coords?

I feel like the girl on the right here >>7450812 has a decent, albiet simple, coord...but I'd have to see a posed photos with shoes and a bag to really say.

It's really hard to tell with silly photos--I know I look terrible in goofy photos too even with a decent coordinate and a good make-up day hah.

>> No.7450889

>>7450600
Do it anyway! The pot probably needs stirring.

>> No.7450897

>>7450863
There are plenty of lolitas that look nice in the comm. Some don't get the opportunity to attend many meetups due to busy schedules. Those are usually the ones that have the larger wardrobes and dress nicer simply because they have the money. What you are seeing are a lot of new faces, and there's been a slew of new people joining, most are college kids. The state isn't the most economically booming location you know.

>> No.7450918

>>7450587
The problem is that a lot of the comm is somewhat new and they think she actually is the queen. It's sickening watching them compliment her and talk about how they're her fans on tumblr and how perfect her coord is. They're desperate to win her over. Honestly she talks about her own outfits enough (how much she spent on them, how rare they are), we don't need other people bringing them to the center of attention too. For her, it seems like meets are all about getting attention and praise.

>> No.7450982

>>7450713
The one time I saw it they were joking around, and it didn't seem like it was an unwanted thing, but I dunno about other times. I'm not much of a regular, so I don't know all the dramu

>> No.7450986

>>7450825
Lolita fashion is srs business to you also I think I know who you are. ;)

You've probably made friends with people from other comms so you're not here for the fashion, hypocrite.

>> No.7450997

If you want to get out of this comm, get the fuck out. We don't want you here if you're going to be this much of a douche.

>> No.7451012

>>7450997
what comm

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>>7450986
>>7450997

>> No.7451038

>>7449904
Fuck the Houston Lolita Comm.

Revolution, cunts.

>> No.7451048

>>7451012
The one with all the picture that just got posted.

>> No.7451050

>>7450773
I've only been putting the people on the written guest list who have paid. I've gave them many notices of when I would be in the city to pay in person and also pointed out many times that it will get canceled if we don't fill up seats. Place holds up to 45-50 people but can be paid with just 30 and I wrote that we had 35 seats.

Doesn't matter. There's a con that same weekend so if I cancel it my cosplay friends are wiling to give me a ride and I'd most likely have more fun there -3- . These flaky poor lolis are the only ones loosing out. Let them have their lame park picnic where they'll be gawked at by the public and have their feet hurt from walking all day and then complain a few months later that the other fancy tea parties are $40+

I'm just letting off a bit of steam at the fact I spent like two weeks looking for places online and visiting a few in person, making phone calls and emails just so no one can show up.

>> No.7451052

>>7451032
You must be 18 or older to post on 4chan.

>> No.7451061

>>7451048
>>7451012

Its the fucking Ohio comm, just come out and say it. I don't know what pride you're trying to protect by withholding the comm when its shit.

>> No.7451077

>>7451061
I really like how it was never brought up, unless ocassionally asked in a community general thread. At the time, the general consensus was that it was no drama, nice people, everyone is the best dressed but pleasant overall. Then about two-three months ago some childish shithead who isn't even a lolita comes in and goes on a pissy tirade about fat people. Most comms in the US have overweight people and beginners or people who haven't developed the same eye for coordination. Real big shocker there.

You know what I'd rather not have to deal with? This shit.
>>7450000

Cry moar.

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>>7451077

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>>7451084

>> No.7451106

>>7451061
Then just leave? It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. Forget about trying to maybe uplift the comm by sharing your oh-so-godly knowledge with these peons you seemingly hate, or trying to enhance the comm.

The comm just accepted about 150 new memberships in the span of a year and that's a TON of new faces that are still learning about the fashion. The way things work in this comm is that, through meet-ups, the older more experienced lolitas help the newer ones and gradually everyone flourishes and grows in the fashion. The comm is not shit because we actually acknowledge that everyone is in different places in the fashion and we keep them interested in growing, rather than just dumping them in the garbage like lots of other comms do by posting shit like this around anonymously.

>>7450918
No one thinks she's the queen. She's just having fun, and people are having fun with her. Stop being so butthurt about watching other people be happy and friendly.

>> No.7451104

>>7450770
...I hope this doesn't come off as a weird question, but is this about Tallahassee?

>> No.7451118

I'm curious, is there any dirt on any of the florida comms? They're rather formal and nice, I'd rather know before I click to join or not. I'm curious

>> No.7451117

>>7450304
There is a York comm but as other anon said it's not very active. Leeds, Middlesbrough or Newcastle are probably your best bets. There's a full list of UK comms in a file on Tea Party Club

>> No.7451127

>>7451061

You're calling out a comm because of some pictures that were taken at a meet that consisted almost entirely of completely new people? Good luck in your new comm, hopefully they're down with stupid and superficial.

>> No.7451138

I think I'd rather be in a comm full of friendly itas then in a comm with bitchy pros who look down on beginners.
There's gotta be a midway solution, and of course they won't always look top notch.

>> No.7451140

how are the az groups? i was thinking about trying to be a little active on fb, maybe attend an event over the summer or smth but i'm nervous to try to meet a new circle of people.

>> No.7451154

>>7451118
What comm do you want to know about?

>> No.7451156

>>7451104
What makes you think it's a weird question?

>> No.7451171

>>7451156
I guess because that's a fairly specific guess based on very little information provided.

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Is there any good comm close to Portland, Oregon? I really want to find some irl lolitas' who can help critic me and build a stylish wardrobe

>> No.7451193

Is there just one comm on Long Island? How is it? I'm just getting my first pieces soon after window-shopping for like 6 years...

>> No.7451204

>>7451193
prepare to be disappoint

>> No.7451250

I'm in Georgia are the comms here any good? I looked the Atlanta and Augusta ones up on facebook just to try to look around at them a little but they're closed groups so i have no idea if i even should try to join them or if they're even still active. Anyone know?

>> No.7451277

>>7451154
I guess central since they're the biggest one, the others seem so tiny compared to it. Panhandle too if anyone knows.

>> No.7451286

>>7451277
Where are you located though? Those comms are quite a distance from each other.

>> No.7451302

>>7450918
If you can gather even 10 people who are willing to go to a meet on ILD, it's still good enough. The conditions are that you must extend the invite to everyone in the comm, from the newest to the most experienced, and it cannot be billed as "THE comm ILD meet" or even "A comm ILD meet". Just "an ILD meet". Once those are met, those who make a fuss out of it can only look stupid.

You would also do good to make less expensive the more people are interested. To make it something like $30 or $50 a head will only bring accusations of elitism. Cheaper means that the new lolitas who are "testing the waters" won't have to risk much, and the more newbies the better it looks.

Always remember, your aim is to celebrate ILD on ILD, not to cause factionalism. Any exposure of fractures within the comm should only come as a by-product, and your damage control should only extend to the individual lolita, not to the comm itself.

You are not a mod, but you are still a lolita.

>> No.7451321

>>7451286
Right between the both of them, so I could swing to either or.

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I went to my first meet with my comm and they made fun of me for my lack of table manners and "picking things up with the wrong hand" (I'm left handed), and then they proceeded to subtly poke fun at my accent (I grew up in Keith and moved south with my mum a few years ago). :(
I hate being an uncultured village girl, they always make fun of me but it isn't my fault.

>> No.7451353

>>7451250
ATL is full of drama: see archives. Don't know much about Augusta.

>> No.7451356

>>7451321
CFL is the larger and proportionately has a greater population of well developed lolitas. Panhandle is smaller, the facebook has less than half the numbers that CFL does. I don't know of any dirt on either of them, but I've met with both comms before, and they all are lovely.

Where exactly are you located though, if you're in between them?

>> No.7451358

>>7451302
Hm. Anyone can celebrate ILD any way they choose where and with whom they choose and call it celebrating ILD. There aren't rules to how it must be done, it's more like a commemoration holiday. It can be comm-wide or with a small group of friends.
I host one, invite who I choose and have it where I please. No complaints yet.

I wouldn't ever conflict with any local comm meet if they were having one on a weekend, as a courtesy, but if they aren't, then there's no reason not to hold one as you please.

Also, since I've heard it discussed, ILD after-gatherings are getting popular, and most of those are definitely invite-only.

>> No.7451366

>>7451358
Oh absolutely. I only suggested what I did if the environment was that of a minefield.

capta:commNSA procured

>> No.7451370

>>7451356
I'm close to gainesville, and it's good knowing there's no problems with either groups. I'd be nervous dwelling in a comm with troubles.

>> No.7451373

>>7451106
>Stop being so butthurt about watching other people be happy

Advice that would probably solve at least 1/2 the lolita 'drama' everywhere.

>> No.7451380

>>7451370
Honestly though, the Panhandle comm is going to be pretty far from you then. I live closer to Tallahassee than Gainesville, and the meets are usually a good 2 1/2-3 hour drive from me.

>> No.7451407

>>7451370
You can join the Jacksonville Lolita Society, they're closer to you.

>> No.7451437

>>7451407
They must be like super hidden for when I search facebook it's panhandle, central, various south ones, and a craft one.

>> No.7451450

>>7451437
Anon, I'm curious as to where you are, would you mind an email buddy?

>> No.7451465

I have twice organized meets this year, and on the first one I had three people show up. Barely any conversation, awkward as hell all around. One girl RSVP'd and didn't show up, never left me any contact info to figure out if she's dead or lost or what the fuck. Okaaay. The next meet, two girls RSVP. Neither fucking shows up. Well, one girl showed up (according to messages I received later). FUCKING TWO HOURS LATE. I didn't even try to find her, I just left.

I'm done. Fuck you, new bitches. I tried. I'll stick to only having meetups with the people who have been in the comm for more than three years.

>> No.7451472

>>7450340
>>7450390
>>7450392
>>7450461
This so much.
Why dress beautifully unless to go to nice places at least sometimes? I'll never understand the cheapness either, it's the opposite of the luxury aspect of the fashion. I love to get dressed up and go to elegant events, even though I have to travel to do so!

>> No.7451482

>>7450465
I wish we had them that often here. We only have a comm meet if the leader gets a new main piece. She's cheap and a fatty so....yeah. Lone Lolita or go to out of town things or just meet 'unofficially' with friends sometimes.

>> No.7451501

>>7450579
Not really your place to critique people unless asked or you will indeed come off bitchy.

Lead by example and just be fabulous. If you are so good, they will ask your advice. You could also post discussion topics on the fashion and get people talking about how each goes about adding to and improving their wardrobes to find out why they've been ita so long. If they have been 'eh' for a while though, don't expect any grand improvements though, regardless.
Love the gif though!

>> No.7451499

>be me
>join new local com
its run by a fatty-chan that would look adorable if she wasn't a hambeast and an old-weeaboo-ita. i'm about out nope right out of there. the old weeb-ita thinks lolita is totes cosplay guize! she runs a shop that sells "japanese imports" (aka pocky, ramune and hello kitty) so shes an insufferable know it all that doesn't know shit and acts like shes 13 (which she also has this weird friendship with a kid around that age). the fatty-chan seems normal if not a bit hot headed with the weeb-ita but still. first meet-up is in may at some tea house for $25 a head (not terrible) but the weeb-ita is gonna make this terrible i think, her and her kid friends. the fatty-chan seems to be staying away from the new com because of the granny-ita. this is the only time i've ever wished a fatty would be around more.

>> No.7451508

>>7451499
Omg, I want pix!
Keep us updated, the characters sound funny, I'd like to know what happens.

>> No.7451512

>>7451465
I have stood someone up like this, and I feel terrible about it. We are a small comm so I knew it would be a tiny meet but I expected there to be at least a few people... When I contacted her again she told me nobody showed up. I have anxiety issues and sometimes I just can't do social situations, especially not wearing lolita in public, and need to take a day to myself. I definitely handled that wrong by not even telling her, and I feel like such a bitch for standing her up like that. She is really nice and I know we could have otherwise had a good time, even just the two of us.

>> No.7451520

Is there any drama or such at any kansas city comms i should know about? I doubt I could make it much farther than Warrensburg for distance reference, i'm just really unsure about joining a lolita comm in the first place.

>> No.7451531

>>7451520
There is a not very well hidden secret lolita comm for KC area lolitas who aren't insane and at least attempt to look good. I say attempt because some of them still fail, but they are generally nice and wear brand.

>> No.7451533

>>7451366
Haha, ok, I thought you were laying down some ILD rules. I don't invite noobs, itas, drama-makers etc to the unofficial meets and the funny thing? We unofficially now meet more than the official comm meets. Convenient how that works. Since I'm not the leader, just the hostess, there's no leader and we all just meet and have fun and eat treats and take pix.

>> No.7451543

I'm really sick of itas constantly ~introducing themselves and posting on our FB pages. They're not mean or anything like that and they've either stopped breaking the rules or the mods have gotten their act together and started deleting rule-breaking posts, and I'm glad they don't come to meetups, but I'm afraid that they're so off-putting that potentially new and worthwhile comm members will steer clear. For a while my state comm had two FBs, a shitty nooby public one and one invite-only, but the invite-only one has been overrun too now by posts like "where can I buy shoes?" and "I saw a superhero movie in lolita teehee" and just UGGGHHH.

>> No.7451554

>>7451512
Yeah, no offense, but it's a seriously shitty thing to do to a person. I have social anxiety too, but one of my outlets to try and be socially active is to host meetups. Now I'm burned out because of people being shitty and rude.

All it takes is a text message to say, "Hey, I can't make it." I always tell people to message me and ask for my number, and I've come to realize that if you don't ask for my phone number I'm not going to trust your ass to show up because you obviously don't give a shit enough to abide by the simplest of requests so that I can get in touch with you if you're late or MIA. It's standard protocol, and yet only one of all those girls bothered to get my number.

It shouldn't upset me that much, but, it was fucking embarrassing and humiliating to have not a single person show up. Imagine how that must have felt for her, to be all by herself waiting for people all dressed up in lolita, only to have no one show. Talk about anxiety inducing. Just thinking about even now it gets my blood boiling. Neither girl even apologized.

>> No.7451561

>>7451554
*one of the girls that showed up to the previous meet. None of the no-showers got my number. Or contacted me to let me know why they were late (I contacted them, only one girl responded out of the three.

>> No.7451571

>>7451531
Oh, really? That's interesting, I'm assuming their secrecy would mean they're rather close-knit, huh?

Thanks for the info anon!

>> No.7451575

>>7451370
If you're close to Gainesville, you can always join Gainesville's comm. Some itas and SJWs like any comm but they have meetups pretty regularly.

>> No.7451582

>>7451520
I left the KC comm because they would arrange general meetups, but as soon as certain people arrived it would be instant cliqueyness. They also have a ton of "super secret meetups" that they don't tell anyone about and then post pics like HAY GUYS LOOK AT US HAVING FUN. I'm glad I left. The Omaha lolis would be great if not for this one girl, but at least everyone doesn't like her.

>> No.7451593

Wow, it seems like there are a lot of Florida girls on tonight. Too bad we can't all meet, I'm hoping that since we're all seagulls we're at least halfway decent.

>> No.7451592

>>7451571
They are super close-knit, but very accepting and overall very friendly girls.

>> No.7451610

>>7451593
The nice thing about being lolitas in florida is that the heat culls the weaklings from the herd. If you can't handle wearing a blouse with your jsk, you can't sit with us.

>> No.7451642

>>7451610
haha, too funny!

>> No.7451651

>>7451610
lol!

>>7451593
If you're >>7450770 we've already met. But I hope your expectations aren't too high. I'm in the other community and we have our pros and cons. I'd much prefer a few close knit lolitas than dealing with group politics. But since I organize most of the meets, I bare through it so that our community can continue to grow.

Sometimes I just want to smack myself in the face for some of the things I have to deal with though.

>> No.7451658

That smug, glorious feel when your comm is damn near perfect, and the annoying people don't show up to meets often if at all.

>> No.7451671

>>7451658
Although you suck for rubbing it in, I hope your comm stays that way. It must be nice.

>> No.7451689
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>>7451038
VIVA LE REVOLUTION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47E2tfK5QAg

>> No.7451693

>>7451658
Recently culled the itas and the snowflakes from our comm, leaving only girls that are at least average. It's wonderful to have a meetup without discussing Homestuck or yaoi.

>> No.7451701

>>7451693
wait, what? how?

>> No.7451703

>>7451693
it would be nice to have a meetup without fandoms coming up. I'm so out of the loop.

>> No.7451706

>>7451671

I hope so too, anon. People occasionally pop up on here trying to stir up drama or deliberately antagonize one of the only vaguely problematic members of the comm to try and make something happen, but we're generally too peaceful to let any of that stuff actually occur.

Most of the girls are pretty nice dressers. There are some who aren't really to my taste, but who am I to talk about their coord skills? It's just too nice an environment to get caught up in drama. I never really understood how certain comms end upinfamous for being drama riddled.

>> No.7451707

>>7451701
A combination of:

The cheapskates b'awwing that things like museum entry fees and food between $10-$20 was too expensive.

Flouncing at any concrit given.

>> No.7451744

One time i had a small meet planned - just about 6 of us. On the day i was running late so i didn't check my FB but things had all come up for the other girls - work, family issues, sick.

We hadn't swapped numbers at that point, so they'd contacted me as best they could and were all very apologetic. I didn't see the comments though and ended up by myself at the meeting point, haha!

Luckily i live near by, and I'm okayish with wearing lolita by myself. It was just a miscommunication but it shows that there are definitely right and wrong ways to letting people know you can't make it. Interestingly though i have depression and anxiety but because they'd tried to get in touch, and were apologetic i understood, had a laugh and went home. it didn't upset me at all! They are all lovely girls and we still catchup :)

But people who confirm and then just not show up and don't say anything are annoying! Especially if it's something thats been booked or paid for in advance. It takes 2 seconds to text/fb comment/etc to let someone know so that they aren't waiting on you.

>> No.7451782

>>7451703

Oh my god, yes. I was completely caught off guard by this at a meetup I recently attended. I just got to sit there looking dumb while they went on about MLP, Homestuck, their yaoi OTPs, etc. And it seemed like the girls who were fans of these things found a way to inject their fandom into every conversation.

>> No.7451800

>>7451782
Yeah, the first meet I attended with my comm, they asked about some of their fandoms. I don't mind ponies too much, but things like welcome to nightvale and various television shows are not my cup of tea, so to speak.

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>>7451689
Fuck yes.

No more rude snobs or lolita hierarchy! Let the amount of style a woman has dictate her worth as a lolita rather than the amount of buttkissing she has done to get the comm leaders to side do nice stuff for her. May your fellow lolitas never be subject to a shitty tea party or meetup ever again!

The true face of the community has been shown, at last, and we can see the two-faced members of the community for the rude hoes that they truly are!

VIVA!

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i took a break from perusing loli threads on /cgl/ to go read some mango and...this happened.
>her fucking name tho

>> No.7451849

>>7451184
We have a huge community. There are lots of well dressed girls, but lots of newbies too.

>> No.7451855

>>7451140
Everyone is super nice! I love our comm! There is obviously a bitch or two, but everyone else makes it worth it. But really, aside from a shit poster or two who lurk cgl everyone is super kind and friendly. I am so happy to be in this comm! I wouldn't trade it for any other group out there

>> No.7451860

>>7451693
How did you manage it? That's impressive.

>> No.7451865

>>7451707
Is this comm in the US? I'm in Toronto and every restaurant that isn't part of a fast food chain or a diner is $10-$20 for a meal.

>> No.7451876

>>7451865
Anon, thoughts on the Southern Ontario comm?
newbie here and spaghetti as hell. I heard everyone in the SO comm is really nice though.
But I saw some pictures from meet-ups and some girls are pretty embarrassing.

>> No.7451888

>>7450118
Woah I think I'm in your state, even though I not part of the comm...Is this the Seattle comm?

>> No.7451895

>>7451865
That's not far off of prices in the US. Unless you drink water and don't tip, you're going to spend ar least 10. I don't if these girls just don't get out much or think we're going to have a meetup somewhere with a dollar menu

>> No.7451901

>>7451876
I'm lone. And I don't even know anyone from the local comm. The only thing I know is that it's big "on paper", I don't know what the meet numbers are. There are SO members that are seagulls, though. Sorry I can't be of any help.

>> No.7451919

What's a seagull?

>> No.7451926

>>7451919
/cgl/=c-gull=seagull

>> No.7451932

>>7451543
Are you an Aussie? This sounds like my comm.

>> No.7451978

>>7451084
I'm not mean enough to post names, but if your's begins with A, stop that. You act like a neckbeard.

>>7451106
I'll be the unpopular one and just come out and say that the comm has a serious problem with the newbies right now. Where did all these middle-school aged brolitas come from? Where did all these tumblrites come from? I'm so tired of how ~*~afraid*~* you are to wear lolita in public and to wear your first coord out and how *~*shy desu~*~ you are when you post all the goddamn time.

>> No.7452019

>>7451978
>middle-school aged brolitas
What the fuck? That shit should be repressed until they learn to properly think before they act. Unless they suffer from body dysmorphia, the regret will kill them later on. And if they do suffer from it, a comm isn't the best place to be, lest they become thooper thpeshul thnowflaketh.

>> No.7452129

>>7451919
A seabird.

>> No.7452146

>>7452019
>>7451978
I think right now we're seeing a lot of people joining the comm who have more of an interest in finding a community of people they feel will except them and who have a vague interest or knownledge of lolita than actual people who have a strong interest in Lolita and actively pursue it as a fashion \hobby....if that makes sense.

Basically, I'm seeing lots of newbies who seem to either be discovering themselves gender wise...or into anime/dolls/cosplay/some related hobbies and like the aesthetics of Lolita they've seen either via tumblr or con's, and think its the community theyll fit into. While I think the comm is a very nice an accepting one, and no one will be outright shunned from it. I do feel a lot of these members would really benefit from a community that was better catered towards their direct interest. A lot of the more active and longer standing members of the comm are very serious about the fashion, and while we're all down for a fun time, it does get weird when you have people who you can tell are there for alternative reasons other than fashion and friends.

>> No.7452169

>>7451140
>>7451855
2nd, AZ comm is pretty drama-free, and what little drama we do get is fairly tame compared to what I've seen go down in others. Regulars are mostly well-dressed and noobs either learn quickly or leave.

>> No.7452203

Goddamn, I love my SoCal comm. There are the adorable sweet lolitas who tend to be younger, 15 - 17 and the older classic/gothic ones who have wonderful wardrobes and I find both groups so chill to hang out with. If there's drama, I am blissfully unaware. I love my clothes and I love the people it's led me to meet.

Sorry about that, everyone.

>> No.7452202

>>7452146
This is one of the reasons why I'd like to ask how serious, on the whole, a certain comm is. The problem with that is if you ask on facebook, you run the risk of being accused of elitism. Unless you are a high level wordsmith that knows how to line of questioning that gives you the answer you want without actually asking the question outright, FB and other social media sites are off the table.
Now, if you ask /cgl/, you might find the answer you are looking for, but unless you join during some mass sign-up or if there is a really long time between the time you ask /cgl/ and the time you join, they will know you asked about them on /cgl/. That doesn't make you look good at all, and even if they don't say it out loud they will think you are elitist.

I think what I mean to say is
>Is it rude to ask?

>> No.7452206

>>7452203
Meet interesting and fun people. Derp.

>> No.7452227

>>7452146
You are a much kinder and more patient anon than me. I usually don't get like this, but these new people have been grating on me for a while in a few different comms in the area. I just can't understand where all these outliers in the community are coming from.

It's frustrating to watch people (only somewhat) younger than you go through the stages of awkward development in a public way. And there are a few older adult members of the comm that I'm never quite sure of. Their posts are especially strange.

>> No.7452239

>>7452202
No, I don't think its rude at all. If anything its a good guage for who's more experienced and serious about the hobby and community.

As far as my comm, a good gauge of interest is via quality of posts, and who's been members the longest. I've seem vendeta Chan throw out comments that no one has brand or knows how to dress, and that's really not the case. It just happens that the better dressed members are also the ones with full time jobs, who are full time students, or maintain some semblance of life where they can't attend every single meet. They also generally keep photos of themselves quarentened to their own personal pages simply cause they don't want vendeta chans plastering them all over the place.

>> No.7452262

>>7452227
I think I've just come to realize that usually those people filter themselves out. Although I'm not going to lie...I'm equally annoyed with the recent boom the comm has gotten the past few months. Its just due to friends of friends. One person joins the comm, they tell all their friends about it, and they all join. Again, I really believe its just an unfortunate issue of people joining the wrong type of community for their interests...for the most part.

Usually people aren't banned unless theyre posing some safety issue, scamming, or straight out slandering harassing someone else. So until any of those things become issues we just have to wait it out.

>> No.7452322

What are the coms in Missouri like? I am moving there soon, either Jefferson, KC, or stl.

>> No.7452363

>>7452322
The STL lolitas are lovely, and I've heard good about the Kansas City girls.

I just wish there were more regular meets in STL.

>> No.7452383

>>7452239
So how do I frame the question? Even I think it may be rude to ask "How committed are the members of the comm to the fashion?".

Anyway, I would like to know the answer to that question wrt the SO comm. I won't be joining any kind of comm for a while, because I do not believe in committing myself to a comm when I have very little pieces, so I think it's safe to ask now.

>> No.7452388

>>7451932
Hello fellow ozlita may ask what state your in as it almost sounds like my comm but we don't get it all the time.

>> No.7452400

>>7451865
Yeah, those are Amerifag prices. Some types of Lolitas here are really cheap and want to do mostly free or very low cost things and eat at cheap places or otherwise just order appetizer, drink water only and don't tip/chronically under-tip when we go out. It's beyond embarrassing.

>> No.7452413

>>7451554
It happened to me too. Organized a meet despite my social anxiety, open meet but make sure that all my Lolita friends get an invitation. One person showed up out of ten. It was my birthday meet. Never again. I almost cried.

>> No.7452442

>>7452388
I'm new to being an Ozlita and haven't joined a comm yet as I don't believe I am ready to join yet, but is this the Melb comm? From the Melblitas I know through cosplay, it doesn't seem that bad.

>> No.7452446

>>7452383
I don't know about the southern Ohio com to great extent if that's who you're asking about. There are a lot of different comms in the state due to distance. The Ohio comm in general is about 270 members strong...with maybe, and I stress MAYBE, 30 who I would consider active members (attending more than 3 meets within the past year or so). However, split those 30 even furthet and make it about 15 or so active members per northern Ohio/southern Ohio segment since, again, logistics makes it hard for some to commute. Those are the more serious members. Those are the people that have decent wardrobes, who look average or above on a regular basis, who go beyond "where do I find this" or "so afraid to wear it" posts. Bigger meets of 20+ made in advance to give people long enough to request off work will generally have more serious members attend. So if you're looking for less newbage go to those type of events, or pay attention to whos hosting the event. If its a admin or a person who's been in the comm for awhile you're going to have a slightly better turn out as a lot of the more experienced members are more comfortable with each other. Im sure this is the same for other states with larger groups as well.

I hope that sheds some light on the comm... Or really to any large comm where the overall integrity of the group is in question.

Point is, if you don't like what you see in any community then instead of posting pics of firtst timers and crying "ita apocalypse" simply don't be a part of it...

>> No.7452450

>>7452446
Sorry, meant southern ontario.

>> No.7452458

>>7452450
I'm sure the advice is still good regardless of the comm. Water seeks its own level and all that jazz.

>> No.7452460

>>7451140
Be active! AZ comm is welcoming and fun. Try a lolita tea party at a con if you're into that or join the fb comm and pick an event you like.

Phoenix is the main hub
Tucson - like 4 girls strong but they try to show up
Flagstaff - ???

>> No.7452462

>>7451512
are you me

>>7451554
whatever I said I'd go to a meet but unavoidable plans came up for me and I called the host and told her I couldn't make it as much as I wanted to and she launched into a guilt trip via phone, that was shit

>> No.7452465

>>7452442

I think it's the Perth comm. They're the only one I know with with a secondary closed comm.

>> No.7452510

>>7452465
Unfortunately yes, it does sound like Perth, there has been a recent influx of special snowflake itas, and idiots.

>> No.7452554

Probably the wrong place to ask, but I'm relatively new to lolita and I was wondering if big brands ever come to UK conventions? I know we had the A&A con with Atelier Pierrot and Victorian Maiden there, but has any big sweet lolita brands ever shown their face before?

>> No.7452557

>>7450595
The bloomers thing needs a secret. That shit's not kawaii and people need to stop it.

>> No.7452585

>>7451342
Dress up like a Highlander loli pls

>> No.7452589

>>7451342
at least their picking on you makes you seem really moe anon

>> No.7452593

>>7451342
If you know enough to know that you're acting like an uncultured village girl then you know enough to change it if you actually wanted to...that's kind of passive aggressive I think so I'm not really surprised that they make fun of you.

>> No.7452611

>>7452593
I'm not purposefully acting like that, you know. I try very hard to be understandable and articulate better but you can't fix twenty years of speaking a certain way in a few weeks. As for manners, I don't act like an unleashed ape. As for table manners, I tried to learn proper etiquette but 1) I can't use my right hand for shit and it always looks wonky and awkward holding anything 2) no place has etiquette rules for left-handers or even people outside of America in general (apparently Americans dine differently). I'm not used to high dining so of course I won't know which of the fucking 30 spoons is for dessert, give me a break.

>> No.7452612

>>7452611
They just sound like nitpicky cuntrags to me. If you don't shovel in your food and chew with your mouth open or fart at the table or something, nobody would normally care what hand you use. They're not the Queen, they're a bunch of stuck-up slags thinking that donning frilly feathers makes them royalty.

>> No.7452625

>>7451849
oh really? Thats great! Are the people nice?

>> No.7452641

>>7452611
>>7452612
Well a lot of the people do care actually. I wouldn't think anything of your accent because yes that is true you can't help that and people should make an effort to understand you. But table manners? Everyone can learn to use proper table manners for the occasion, and which fork to use or practice eating with the proper hand. Yes some of the American and European rules are little bit different but it's nothing that so terribly difficult to learn if you put your mind to it.

>> No.7452645

>>7452641
ok so because that's commonplace manners for idk like 5% of the population, being generous, everyone should make a real effort to cater to them and not offend their delicate tastes? i mean come on

if you're not spilling food everywhere or have food coming out of your mouth or disturbing the table/people sitting next to you, you're fucking fine

>> No.7452646

>>7452641
classist

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>>7452641

There is a difference between not having table manners and holding the fork in the "wrong" hand because you are left handed.
As a fellow left handed girl, I feel her. There is nothing you can do about it. I had to learn how to use the fork with the - for me- wrong hand, which left me being able not to spill my food anwhere but with completly wrong technique on how to cut stuff (because my young child brain could not figure out another way), an annoying habit I might never get rid off; just like my wy of holding a pencil is fucked up because no one bothered to show me the correct way (i was using the "wrong" hand anyway, so I was unsavageable anyway)

>> No.7452668

>>7452641
Where might one be able to learn those, then? Most websites I visited are awfully vague about which dining style they teach (or teach it half-assedly) and I have no money for fancy "lady schools".

>> No.7452677

>>7452645
No, I didn't say that. I just said that if anon wanted to learn it wasn't out of reach to be able to conquer better table manners. Whether they choose to do so or not is up to them. But if the social conventions locally call for that and they don't do it then yes, they're probably going to get made fun of.

>>7452646
Probably.

>>7452657
Except that I'm a lefty too and I can use both left and right hand with silverware, chopsticks and Chinese spoon?

>>7452668
It depends on where you're going and what table manners are called for at the event. What kind of a place did you go to that you were made fun of for using the wrong hand with your fork? Was it at lunch, tea, dinner? Was it a finer restaurant with tablecloths and multiple sets of silver and multiple courses or something more casual? Everybody gets all uppity about table manners good and bad, but a lot of people wish they had better table manners and do want to learn them. It's kind of an archaic thing so no, it isn't really usually taught. But if you give me a little bit more of an idea about the kinds of events you're going to, I can probably point you to a website that will give you the etiquette rules for that sort of a situation.

People can say what they like about other people being critiqued about their table manners but it's usually embarrassing, both to the person that's offended and the person being criticized. And while I did learn some more complex manners from my family situations, I learned more from serving at banquets as a caterers assistant setting the tables for the events. So not exactly Miss hoity-toity. I saw firsthand that a lot of people are insecure about their table manners.

>> No.7452683

I lost all interest in the 'lolita community'. I love the clothes but why are 90% of people in this thing boring, petty-minded children or both? It's like most of the time, if someone has a personality at all, it revolves around putting other people down. I just don't see the appeal of going and having dinner with a bunch of people I wouldn't hang out with normally just because we're all wearing frilly-ass dresses. I guess I only recently realised the amount of painfully awkward small-talk that passes for socialising between lolitas and went 'yeah, nah'. I don't get why it's like that though? When I go to gyaru meets, normally everyone genuinely gets on and has fun together, so why is there so much awkward fake-nice at lolita meets? Luckily I have lolita friends I met at gyaru meets so we can just organise our own stuff, but I do find it weird how the lolita community has this massive, inexplicable lack of personality.

>> No.7452684

>>7452388
Hey, original anon here. It sounded like the Perth comm to me because they do have a 'public comm' and an 'invite only' one.

>>7452510
There has been a massive influx of newbies and most of them either haven't done any research or don't even seem to be that interested in the fashion.

>> No.7452691

>>7452677
Well... I'd like to learn them all, I guess. Teas, fancy dinners at high dining restaurants, buffets, I already know acceptable Asian dining table manners since I was a weeb in high school.

>> No.7452699

>>7452683
I have to agree. The Lolita community as a whole is very… boring and borders on fake. While it’s commonly proclaimed that it’s “Just clothing” there is an unspoken rule that it isn’t the case. Case in point: Deerstalker Pictures. They have very humorous videos that are well made and don’t take themselves too seriously. And yet I read complaints on here that Japanese Lolitas would find them disgraceful and cringeworthy from the way they behave. Everyone puts Japanese Lolitas on a pedestal. And they try to emulate Misako (who has a pretty bland personality herself). Everyone is too scared to show their true colors because if they deviate from the norm they can be singled out from the pack.
Also… it’s pretty fucking obvious to me that most lolitas have social anxiety or was just crazy shy. Everyone seems to have a brick wall built around their heart and they are too afraid to let anyone in. I’ve come to realize that almost every Lolita is just too scared to be the first to open up and are afraid they might look dumb. I’ve honestly given up on trying to be friends with most Lolitas.
When I hear complaints that people GASP don’t want to hear about the personal lives of people at meetups I just laugh. What should we talk about then? Shallow things like the print you are wearing and how the cupcakes taste? I’m not saying people could be bringing their dirty laundry to meetups… but whats so wrong with GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE?

>> No.7452702

>>7452699
Wahey, a kindred spirit. I actually find myself often getting on with the 'unpopular' lolitas, because shit, at least they're interesting and have something to talk about. Looking like a doll is great but fuck me if I don't get tired of everyone acting like them, I need a support group for socially competent lolitas man.

>> No.7452703

>>7452691
http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2008/08/table-manners-iii-do-you-eat-european-or-americanstyle.html
European vs American style silverware manners. Note the comments for and against, haha!

>> No.7452706

>>7452691
Emily Post
http://www.emilypost.com

>> No.7452716

>>7452691
Quick video, admittedly with kids but it covers silverware basics and shows them in action.
http://www.marthastewart.com/912111/kelly-salway-teaches-table-manners

>> No.7452717

>>7451804
What mango is that?

>> No.7452720

>>7452668
>>7452691

I learnt mine out of books, if you don't have money for those, try and check your library and see if they have it/can get it in from a branch/affiliate.

Honestly though, there's a lot of variation depending on countries, so if your area isn't really homogeneous it's more worthwhile to just pick up the general basics than memorise everything.

>> No.7452724

>>7452699
What's wrong with talking about the same kind of things that you would talk about at a cocktail party with coworkers or casual friends? Current events, any books or movies that you found interesting lately, any sorts of funny situations you found yourself in lately, News from the Lolita world, General small talk about your hobbies and interesting things that you're doing recently without going into a lot of detail about your fandoms. Also upcoming events in the city that you or your friends or both together have attended or might like to attend. And yes, a little bit of talking about your Lolita wardrobe...recent purchases, wish list etc.
After all it is a Lolita meet up.
Some or all of that even at a simple tea party meet without any entertainment would make a very full table conversation if there were more than a handful of people.

>> No.7452729

>>7452699
As a (rather exasperated) lolita from a city that's notorious for its drama, I fucking love you.

>> No.7452733

>>7452720
Books are a good resource too but I really like the videos now that there are a few more out on etiquette. I do have Emily Post's book and I do refer to it if I need to because we go to quite a few receptions and private parties. Practice at home and your everyday matters will improve and then you'll be more relaxed in a party atmosphere because your manners will just be a become a habit .

My current city in the United States is small and fairly informal and most activities are after work gatherings that are business casual and cocktail dresses. A few receptions are black-tie. But even those are mostly informal and buffet. Sitdown dinners (dinner is the evening meal or the midday Sunday meal in the United States) at local restaurants are mostly casual, rarely more than three courses plus appetizers and dessert even though they specialize in some pretty fancy dishes including regional cuisine. The dress code and the table manners are much more relaxed than the atmosphere would be in a major city at similar gatherings. Not quite as formal as something like a high tea either.

I mention all of the above because it's kind of disconcerting when it really depends on the city that you're in and the level of formality that the regional people that are at the gathering would normally use. There's no real way to learn that out of a book until you've been to a few meets to recognize the style of table manners and level of formality that they're using. I always err on the side of being too formal rather than too informal. Yes, it may seem snobby… But seeming to have bad manners is worse to me than being perceived as a snob.

>> No.7452735

>>7449856
Anyone know how the comm in RI is?

>> No.7452742

>>7451876
>>7452383

Generally fine, I wouldnt say that a lot of the girls are actually embaressing but there is always newbies and acceptance of them regardless of how well they do. Its pretty anti elitist in that way. It is a big comm but that also means that there is just a lot of people that wont be at the average meet, more so because of the limitations of having a lot of people.

I think the marche meet is probably the largest we can do outside of cons because of issues with getting a big enough space as you see others here talking about.

I dont really get the 'committed' question? Like a lot of people have been in the fashion for years, no matter what the influx of newbies are a big comm always have a core of regulars who come out.

>> No.7452743

>>7452699
Regarding complaints of that Japanese Lolitas would find someone like deerstalker and company disgraceful and cringe worthy… How does anybody actually know what the Japanese Lolitas think of the Western Lolitas? I would really like some sources on that and somebody who actually interacts with these Japanese Lolitas who disapproved of western Lolitas so much.

Knowing the little bit that I know about Japanese culture and people there not really saying forthright what they think if it's negative I'm not really sure that that's very accurate that Japanese would openly express that kind of disapproval and let somebody know it unless they knew that person really well. If it is really true well, then so be it but I would kind of like to have a little more reliable sources than someone just saying that on 4chan.

I've seen two interviews where Misako and then Maki and Asuka all say that Western Lolitas are 'more creative' in their coordinates than Japanese Lolitas. That may or may not be a complement depending on whether creativity is that desirable of a trait to them in a Lolita versus one with a more harmonious coordinate. I think the designer for Juliette et Justine also said something to that effect at the London tea party and fashion show.

But just like the saying "Japanese Lolitas don't wear or like Bodyline", this is kind of unsubstantiated and more hearsay.

I think there can be a happy medium between absolute TMI at a meeting, sicking up your personal details to somebody you just met...and making only banal small talk about Lolita topics and the food.

Personally I think this is a very good example of the gaps in social adroitness that modern people have as a rule. Most people don't know how to behave at cocktail parties and wedding receptions and other fairly formal social situations like a Lollita high tea. So the basic rules and practice of entertaining and interesting smalltalk have kind of been lost. A lot of people do find it boring.

>> No.7452745

>>7452702
I don't even give a fuck anymore. When I see blank faced girls at meetups I just give them disarmingly friendly welcomes and offer to take their picture. They eat that shit up.

>>7452724
Because after three or four meetups it becomes stale and tripe. I want to form friendships. And this is where is reach the fork in the road. Some people claim they just want to have occasional meetups with people who dress like them (strange, but whatever) and then there are people like me who want to mingle and meet people and form relationships. Why can't we get to know each other and have a little bit of fun? Why do we have to treat each meetup like a boring cocktail party? This past weekend I was nervous because I was sharing a hotel room with two other Lolitas. I smuggled wine in a JuiceyJuice container and when I mentioned it to the other women they were both excited and relieved. We proceeded to have a bubble bath with chicken wings and drank wine in our hotel room. I made a pair of friends a lot faster than I would have if we just talked about the weather.

>>7452729
I'm glad!! I love you too, anon-san!

>> No.7452752

>>7452745
I think it depends on what you're looking for and different people want different things. Some people are content with only meeting once or to maybe twice a month with people who have one similar interest. Much like a bookclub, I don't expect to become friends with very many people outside of the club meet. The same thing with someone I would take art lessons with, or a music class, or a cooking class. There would be a few that I might want to get to know a little bit better, but just attending a function or meet up with people that I have one thing in common with on an occasional basis doesn't necessarily mean that I personally would want to form outside friendships with them.

So the idea of bubble baths with wine and chicken wings with someone that I didn't know any better than I know my local Lolita friends would kind of horrify me. That's not to say that there is anything wrong with enjoying it and I laughed when I read your comment, but that's not everyone's experience or desire either… So when you throw a mix of people wanting different things from a meetup sometimes it does to send into chaos. Or stay on a very superficial level. And both are kind of awkward.

>> No.7452758

>>7452724
These 'conversation points' are all so shallow. Why are you so guarded? Do you honestly think you can go an entire year's worth of meetups talking about the same old thing?

>>7452743
So you admit that cocktail party etiquette tends to leave much to be desired? If you are aware that small talk is boring and doesn't give you satisfaction why continue to do it? And here we are again. Where people claim that there isn't a 'lifestyle' aspect of Lolita but simultaneously force their own ideas of 'proper meetup conversation topics'. Stop being boring old maids. As long as people aren't being petty cunts or screaming like children there is nothing wrong with talking about your lives.

>> No.7452764

>>7452758
Maybe part of it is because some Lolitas like to dress up and come to the meet ups and do have a little bit of the "pretending to be a princess "desire and kind of would like to forget the everyday cares rather than talking about them?

You said that quite a few people have social anxiety as well. Smalltalk give some kind of an anchor to cling to if they don't want to talk about their personal lives, are shy, or do just want to have a stress-free and possibly yes slightly shallow conversation where no one is judging what is divulged about their lives. Too many people end up on behind the bows or worse yet here with their personal details divulged. That shouldn't inhibit people from getting to know each other and becoming friends, but it does make people much more cautious than I think it would be otherwise. Also, the fact that alcohol is usually a factor of cocktail parties kind of loosens of everyone's conversation a little more, I've been to some pretty lively cocktail parties.

If you're finding your meets a little bit boring or shallow in the conversation department, why not look into a high tea with champagne or wine? Or have more of an offbeat meet like going bowling and drinking beer, A pub crawl, or going to a nightclub?

>> No.7452778

>>7452745
Is this really how most comms are? I made fast and close friends with a lot of girls in my comm, maybe I'm just lucky. Maybe you are going to have to be the one to lay yourself out there a little more. When I joined my comm, everyone was already friends and the conversations were as basic as you're saying, but I made a huge effort to join in and participate and now I'd say I've made close friends with a lot of the girls.

>> No.7452792

>>7452778
My comm has a lot of women who are already friends and use the argument "That they attend meetups to hang out with friends they don't otherwise see". Thats all well and good but that means the newer people who aren't part of your clique should just accept the fact that you are only interested in talking to the people you already know? The newer people and the people who rarely make appearances are very awkward and go into 'cocktail mode' where they give a brief compliment and nod their head. We then have to struggle through some farce of a conversation because everyone feels awkward because we have a group off to the side having fun and talking amongst themselves. I prefer one on one interactions now. It's hard to get to know people if they have a mask on for the sake of the group.

>> No.7452796

Thanks for all the great advice and links guys, but just one question: how do you tell apart all that cutlery? I know what a butter knife and that bloody shellfish stuff look like, but the rest looks nearly the same.

>> No.7452802

>>7452796
Sorry for being an uncultured git, by the way.
>inb4 that's outwith my remit, lrn2google

>> No.7452807

>>7452802
"outwith my remit"...?

>> No.7452812

>>7452807
"I don't have to do that for you"

>> No.7452818

>>7452796
You work from the outside in as the courses come. The silverware that you use for the first course is on the outside. When you are finished with a course, the silver is taken away with your dishes and then the next set of silverware is the next in line. The silverware above your main place setting can vary a little bit, it's either the desert service or the bread-and-butter service. Usually before an event, you can find out what the menu is… So then you will know what the setting is and be able to familiarize yourself with what you use when. Also if you have something special like an amuse-bouche or a pallete-cleansing sorbet in between courses or a seafood cocktail, often the special silverware that you use for them will be placed when they bring the item. Often times there won't be enough knives for each course, I often find myself asking for an extra knife because I use my main course table knife to cut the giant lettuce in my salad, lol.

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>>7452796
Hors d'ouevre : use outermost knife & fork . Use silverwares from outside in.

Really basic setup is pic related.

>> No.7452826

Grown ass women who can't figure out how to get to the meeting place on their own. They need someone to pick them up from the train station and hold their hand. WTF What happens when these people finally get jobs or something. How do they exist? Are they borderline retarded?

>> No.7452829

>>7452792
You don't have a very good meet hostess then. When they're going to be people who don't know the main comm as well, it may be best for the group to host a couple of specific newbie meetings for getting to know the new people. There would be nothing wrong with asking for that, or telling the hostess about your awkward feelings… As a hostess, it is her duty to make sure that all of the guests are at least comfortable.
Maybe they could be getting-to-know you game if there's more than one or two new people in the comm.

Of course if it is a group of friends who just want to socialize with the already established other friends, the other option would be for them to have private meets occasionally… But then that risks the new people feeling excluded or thinking that there some sort of division in the Comm.

Unfortunately there's no real easy answer, which is why I'm really glad to see people talking about this here even if we have different ideas about what a meet should be. If local people have a division in what they think about meetings and how they should go, maybe they can start a conversation about that and there may need to be several different kinds of meets from time to time and everyone take turns, or some people just not attending some mates. If my comm had a bowling me, I certainly wouldn't go… But I wouldn't feel left out just because they had a bowling meet and I did not want to go that particular time. If I host a tea party, excitement-chan may not want to come and do the boring conversation. Does that mean I don't like her! No. It just means that I prefer tea parties to bowling.

>> No.7452830

>>7452826
Stupid, sheltered, severely anxious, lazy, whatever other reasons. There are many different types of people.

Some people just aren't cut to be independent as much as we want them to learn. I recently came into contact with such a person that has to be handheld each step of the way (how to use a bus, how to buy a bus pass, how to read the bus route). It's maddening to me.

>> No.7452864

>>7452826
For me, it's severe anxiety and a very sheltered upbringing. That doesn't mean I expect my comm to accommodate me, though, because I'm well aware it's weird and I don't want to inconvenience anyone. If it's really bad I ask my boyfriend to bring me (he doesn't usually stay for the meet itself) and otherwise I meticulously plan out my route beforehand and sometimes do a practice run a day or two before.

I'm not mentally retarded. I'm perfectly capable of holding intelligent conversations and have a good education that will hopefully land me a well-paying and fulfilling job. It's just that I have a tendency to shut down when confronted with a complex public transportation system or busy traffic.
So even though some of the girls you're talking about may be lazy or not too bright, please don't assume that anyone who has difficulty with certain things is automatically an idiot.

>> No.7452871

>>7452825
The easiest tip I heard is that you use the utensils on the outside first. That's why bread & butter and soup are on the outside, you eat them first, meat is closest to the plate because it's the main course.

>> No.7452892

>>7452871
yep
also when in doubt, just pretend to not be very hungry for a sec and see what everyone else is doing. Don't draw attention to the fact that you have no idea, and just use the same fork the other people are using at the appropriate time.

>> No.7452906

>>7451140
Everyone I've met from both Phoenix and Tucson are amazing! Where do you live? We have a meet planned for next weekend! You should show up! C:

>> No.7452941

>>7452864
I'm very much the same, anon. It really sucks for me because the closest comm is in a large city a couple of hours away and I'm terrified of driving in so much traffic. I have to plan exactly where I'm driving and use google streetview to see the locations and stuff. Once they changed the next place we were going to during the meet and I panicked and just drove home instead. I function perfectly fine in my familiar small town though and don't have too many problems otherwise

>> No.7452944

>>7452792
I don't know if you're hearing what I'm saying. My point was that when I entered my comm, it was the same, girls who were already friends and got together to see each other. I was the one who made the effort to join in- I helped plan shit, I made a point of talking to people and listening even if I didn't know what/who they were talking about, and eventually it turned out we had a lot in common and we're friends now. It's hard for meet hosts to include new people, sometimes, so the new people also need to make an effort to bring the friendliness and intimacy of the conversation up a notch, like I did. I wish you luck, anon!

>>7452830
I recently had a similar experience with a girl I thought was more mature. Drives me nuts, because it's not MY problem you're a dependent moron. If you can't be independent, be aware of it and don't force yourself and your needs on your comm.

>> No.7453005

>>7452745
Yo man, you sound like exactly the type of lolita I'd like to hang out with. I want girls I can form friendships with too, not just talk about prints and macarons. It becomes very stale after a while.

Also the wine part. I want a friend I could consider a lolita drinking buddy, not just a garden party/church on Sunday friend.
If you're interested in going to Rufflecon, I would insanely room with you in a heartbeat.

>> No.7453017

>>7450867
>There's a nice button you can press to eject yourself from the group sandy vag chan.

Ok. I've noticed any time someone says something about Ohio specifically, 1 Anon says something about "sandy vag". I don't know which one you are, but seriously, try using some variety in your classless insults.

But then again you're probably too busy eating to think of any.

>> No.7453025

>>7451106
>Then just leave?
This is a lolita bitching thread

>> No.7453052

>>7449856
all the girls in pink dresses, white stockings and pink shoes.. they look like matching gang members.

>> No.7453057

>>7453017
Oh let's try not to be clever. But let's make a few things clear.

Unless there is some serious drama going down (ie, scammers, infamous people, and not your garden variety beginner or fatty-chan) cgl does not care. Been there, done it. It's in most comms, especially in the US and midwest especially. Cgl is not here to be your personal army. This goes for you and Mr./Miss capslock who keeps shitting up every one of these threads the last two months. It grows stale after awhile, and everyone is going to grow tired of your bitching and tiresome, infantile attempts to fling insults.

Even with infamous scammers, people grow sick and tired of hearing about it.

You want to change it? Lead by example rather than complaining how the few pictures you've seen from recent meetups have been overweight people and not people who are well dressed (who mostly happen to be completely new). By all means, show us up with your impeccable coordination skills and impressive wardrobe and incredibly toned fit body. I would be pleased to see it.

And yes, I was eating thank you. My healthy lunch consisting of lean proteins and vegetables and I will be working out and lifting today thank you.

>> No.7453225

>>7451855
>>7452169
>>7452460
>>7452906

thank you guys!! that's really nice to hear, i was getting so anxious about the possibility of inviting a ton of drama in my life. i'm stressed about real life stuff, i don't need manufactured drama etc!

anyway. i live closer to tucson, but i could go to phoenix every once in a while, maybe for a bigger meet or something. i don't have a full outfit yet, so i want to wait until i have a coord and i can go out to a meet with no problems...i even feel weird doing an intro or anything with no coord on hand. i've been actively following lolita fashion since idk mid 2000's so at least i'm confident with my coord abilities/general Lolita Knowledge? i feel like that helps lol

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>>7453057
>And yes, I was eating thank you. My healthy lunch consisting of lean proteins and vegetables and I will be working out and lifting today thank you.
Well good luck losing weight

>> No.7453243

>>7450812
Maybe they're ill-dressed fattychans but they look like they're having more fun and friends than you are
>yfw being thin and well dressed doesn't make you more likeable

>> No.7453270

>>7453243

The Melbourne comm would like to have a word with you.

You can be thin, well dressed, likable AND have tons of fun while having standards.

>> No.7453273

>>7453270

The Melbourne comm also produced Marie/ODiP, so maybe you guys need to sit down and shut up until that shit on your face is finally cleaned off and the rest of the world stops laughing at you/distrusting you for letting that dumbass run free.

>> No.7453332

>>7451437
Find the link here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Anw4aY5HpSLMdFU2UjZjZ0t2Z0I3RXZtemhkSWlMamc#gid=1

>> No.7453352

>>7451465
That really sucks... If you list your phone number on the event page, at least people can text or call if they get lost and don't have a smartphone. Just meet up with someone close to your area of town, it might be easier? Or just chat to random lolitas online and hope to make friends that way.

>> No.7453355

>>7450825
Maybe you're not such a hotshot lolita because you didn't even recognise that one of the dresses is by Baby

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>>7451804

>> No.7453403

>>7452717
Oyasumi Punpun

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A quick question to those here: what is the Northern Ohio comm like? (I have a feeling it's centered in Cleveland, but I could be wrong) I heard it's generally nice and not too ita, but that was a few years ago.

>> No.7453452

>>7453412
We seem to have a hateful anon in the thread, but it's generally good.
Echoing what this sweet anon >>7452262
said, it's going through an early summer and there are some questionable characters. Stick it out and meet the hand full of good regular members and you'll be alright.

>> No.7453464

relevant

i just read this article: relevant

just read this article: http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2014/03/socially-awkward-isnt-an-excuse/

talking bout guys dating guys but i feel like it realllly gets to the heart of why itas can't rely on claiming "socially awkward" either. esp when it gets into hitting on other lolitas like i know people have mentioned

interesting read in general tho 10/10

>> No.7453467

>>7453464
lol whoops pasted twice. i almost posted on the wrong thread first. DOING GREAT TODAY

>> No.7453520

>>7453225
Well if you think you'd be more interested meets, I know they have some mini meets every so often. There's one being planned at the beginning of May. You just missed connichiwa so that's the only tucson con that draws any sort of lolita attention

>> No.7453564

>>7453452
Thank you! I'm moving there in early fall, so i'll miss the summer anyway.

>> No.7453586

>>7453057
u sound fat

>> No.7453593

>>7453520
>You just missed connichiwa
She should count her blessings then.

>> No.7453619

>>7453593
The only thing good about Tucson. The made a bunch of hype about it and it sucked. It was much better at the smaller hotel the previous years IMO

>> No.7453628

>>7453619
yeah, I thought the tea party was good compared to how awful the rest of the con was. Can't do much when you don't have a room and a mic though...

>> No.7453643

If there ever is a new lolita comm started in Houston I would love to join. I met a few of them before and they didn't seem to friendly. Maybe I'll just stick to being a lone rori.

>> No.7453650

>>7453643
too*
sorry

>> No.7453713

>>7453520
hmm beginning of may might be good! hoping to start assembling my necessities next month. i wouldn't have gone to the con anyway but lol good to know it was missable. back when i was living in phoenix i went to anizona one year and oh man the lolita meet there was...something. it was just in a gazebo! there wasn't anything planned at all! just vague socializing and pictures...granted it was like 2007 or 2006 so maybe it was before we had higher expectations idek

>> No.7453736

>>7453643
Yeah, I agree with you when you say that they're not that friendly. A lot of them seem really snooty and boring.

>> No.7453881

>>7453273
pretty sure that was Adelaide.

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My comm is pretty decent sized but I find that the quality is going down over the years. Recently this shithead brolita came, we'll call him... T. T is always poorly dressed, gossips, talks shit when he can't even't dress correctly. The comm has become overpopulated with this kind of bullshit too often.

>> No.7454496

>>7453713
Oh god I remember anizona! That was my first con! Forever ago! I was so excited when this shit hole I a state finally got its own con! Never went to the lolita tea parties though, glad to know I wasn't missing much. I was too shy to attend anyways.

>> No.7454499

>>7453412
Northern Ohio is mostly Northeast Ohio centered around Cleveland and Akron/Canton. I'd say they're the most active portion of the group. All of the admins and a large portion of the seasoned members are from this group of Ohio so generally more meet-ups get planned because they're the most experienced with it. There's a definite climate of acceptance and "I don't really care if you're wearing a replica, brand, or regular clothes, as long as you're a frilly-minded person and appreciate good people and fun times," you're good. We have lots of diversity, and because of that, we're very open-minded.

Most of the active members are fairly good at coordinating, but there is a large portion of younger members that cycle through the meets that are still growing in the fashion. We don't use the word "ita" to describe our own members' coords, because we understand that to change someone's mind about their coords, you need to lead by example. The seasoned members have learned to gently make suggestions and corrections to the more inexperienced members. We are very low drama, and very intolerant of those who propogate it. There's at least one to two meets a month, and since the population of the comm is mostly older girls in their early-twenties to late-thirties, most meets that happen in the daytime have an evening "after-meet-up" so we can have adult time away from the younger members.

>> No.7454600

Moving to AL in a month and half. Anyone know anything about the community?

>> No.7454696

What do you gals know about Chinese comms?

>> No.7454922

>>7453628
I'm sorry everyone! I tried my best!!! I was told I will most likely be able to have a real room next year! Even if I can't I'm going to start planning even earlier! I want the Connichiwa Tea Party to be the best part about that convention! I have more determination then ever now!

>>7453225
I agree with everyone! I really like everyone in our comm! We have issues sometimes like anybody, but they really aren't so bad! And yes, I'm the one hosting an event the first weekend of may! Please come, especially if you're closer to Tucson! C: unfortunately Tucson isn't as active as the Tucson area because we don't have as many members. I'd love to plan more things in town if there were more people interested in going! C:

>> No.7454935

>>7454922
*tucson isn't as active as Phoenix. Uggg sorry It's been a Long day I just got home and I'm still trying to recover from the lack of sleep preparing for the tea party this weekend ;_;

>> No.7455622

>>7454600
Alabama? We're really chill. Lots of meets, no drama that I'm aware of, and everyone's extremely nice. And, surprisingly enough, no itas, since we're a pretty small bunch, and fairly quiet about the comm.

>> No.7455648

>>7454696
I'm a Chinese lolita, our comms are usually more active online that IRL. Major cities like Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Chengdu etc. have annual meets at tea parties and maybe some other halloween etc. things. Apart from that girls tend to make lolita friends in private and just do regular Chinese things in lolita like go to hotpot or karaoke or movies. We have the baidu forums for nation-wide generals (knock-off purse and shoe GOs, daily coordinates, daily lolita gripes, scammers etc.) and the rest exist in circles on weibo. We also have our own cgl of sorts at lorp.miniban.com which is an anonymous image board, but people seem pretty hesitant to directly post photos and point fingers. Usually it's pretty hard to decipher unless you're active on baidu and weibo and know all the popular lolitas (nicknamed X太太, meaning mistress or lady or missus) and their respective nicknames.

What do you want to know? I can post specifics about Chinese e-famous lolitas and their dirt.

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>>7454922
Hey girly, you did a great job. I really would've regretted even going to that con if not for your fantastic tea party. It really made me want to join in on more Tuc-loli meets, you all are so sweet and well-dressed! See you in May :)

>> No.7455663

>>7455648
Is there a comm in Tianjin?

Do a lot of girls wear japanese brands, or mostly indie brands?

>> No.7455671

>>7455648
>I can post specifics about Chinese e-famous lolitas and their dirt.

Yes please! I need a break from homework.

>> No.7455798

>>7455663
Yes, I think there is. Most second tier cities do (first tier being Shanghai, Shenzhen etc.) but they don't tend to meet often and I don't know about the quality of the lolitas. Make a weibo account or check on the baidu forums, Chinese lolitas are very accommodating of foreign lolitas so I'm sure you'll be able to make friends easily.

Out of the total lolita population, I'd say 60% is Chinese brand only, 40% mix of Japanese brand and Chinese brands. Most of the ones who only own Chinese brands aren't very prolific online but make up a lot of the consumer base on taobao and weibo. Chinese lolitas don't tend to think of Chinese brands as 'indie' because they're pretty established, pretty much every brand you get on taobao is a registered company, pays tax, and has a factory line production. They do differentiate and obviously Japanese brand is more highly regarded because it's expensive and coveted. You'll see a disparity in the online presence regarding Chinese brand ownership v.s. Japanese brand ownership because the rich and popular lolitas post a lot more. It's the notion of collective shame and losing face (unlike Western lolitas who post youtube videos about Bodyline and gifs of themselves wearing replicas), but good quality limited Chinese brands like Krad Lanrete are still popular.

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>>7455671
The rules prohibit threads and posts targeting individuals, so I'm not sure how to go about this. I'm not posting anything that's not already out there, and really I'm just translating from Chinese to English for community relevant stuff. This is pretty interesting and thread relevant I guess, and people have dished about their own comms and other country comms so I guess it's all right?

Let's talk about some famous faces! First up we have the new favourite princess of Chinese lolita. Her name is Lydia and she lives in Shenzhen, and owns a fuck ton of brand. Her family's fucking rich and buys her whatever she wants, lives in a European style mansion, and is thin pretty and pale so no-one can really talk shit about her much. Chinese lolitas value wearing simple coords well over creative coords, so she's pretty untouchable. People have tried to start shit about how she has a puffy face or applies make-up badly but there's really no dirt on her since she's generally nice and reserved online.

>> No.7455835

>>7455810
She reminds me of Sayumi from morning musume for some reason..

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>>7455810
Next up is Hiyomi! She lives in Shanghai, is pretty much a lifestyler (wears it daily), and owns a lot of brand but isn't as young or pretty or well off as Lydia so she doesn't get a lot of flack for that. She's sorta fat and has dubious style, and really into sweet at mid-late twenties. Her blog's pretty boring and she's usually blogs about typical Chinese stuff so it's a strange combination. Not elegant at all but still very lolita lifestyle. She's the self-pronounced "Misako of China", which everybody laughs at, since she's not that well put together or cute and she's fat. However Hiyomi's pretty active in the community, and does nice stuff like visit the Swimmer boutiques and SSs for free since only Shanghai has them. Her one photoshoot wearing Dreamy Baby Room and toting guns got a lot of flack because it wasn't well photographed, she's fat, and bad at posing. One thing I should also mention is most upper-class famous Chinese lolitas abhor replicas, some are accepting of shoe or bag replicas but print replicas are a big no-no.

>> No.7455841

>>7455810
Oh also forgot to add, Lydia's the one that was looking for the Kurage Hime collab dress by Baby for 30,000 rmb (approx 5000usd) plus a 800 rmb finder's fee to anyone who directed her to an auction for it. She's also in highschool (grade 12) and looking to study abroad.

>> No.7455850

>>7455838
Fat? Eh. I'm more concerned about her nose.

>> No.7455852

>>7452702 >>7452699
>When I hear complaints that people GASP don’t want to hear about the personal lives of people at meetups I just laugh

It's one thing to get to know someone, but when you've only just met them and they're ranting about their sex life and trying to out-edge everyone in the room, it's just too much.
Can't we have some sort of balance? Like mid-tier personal information.

>> No.7455866

>>7455810

Wow, she's beautiful. I guess she lives the loli dream life.

>> No.7455881

>>7455810
I want to be that cute, wow...

>> No.7455887

>>7455886
Yeah honestly to me she just looks like she has big boobs.

>> No.7455886

>>7455838
She doesn't look fat here? Maybe a bit chubs. Please post more anon

>> No.7455889

>>7455887
Fat by Asian standards, maybe.

>> No.7455892

>>7455838
>she's fat
>also she's fat
>she's fat
>...because she's fat
>she's fat
Is this a thinly-veiled vendettapost or something? She doesn't even look fat.

>> No.7455897

>>7455838
that chick is so not fat. :/
>>7455850
^agreed.

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>>7455850
>>7455897
bad lighting maybe??

>> No.7455943

>>7452864
Wow anon, are you me?

>> No.7455966

>>7455798
Are the Taiwanese communities tied to the Chinese ones at all? Like, post on the same forums or anything?

>> No.7456083

>>7455648
Im the original anon who asked, thank you so much or the info! I would also be curious which lolitas there's dirt on.
>>7455798 Answers my next question about how friendly they are to foreign lolitas. And I was also wondering the same as: >>7455966
I'm going to be in these areas soon so I was wondering!

>> No.7456107

>>7455886
>>7455887
>>7455889
>>7455892
Fat by Chinese standards, also I'm just retelling the online consensus and pretty tired and late here. Like Cadney is whale by Chinese standards, I have no idea how she's popular.

>>7455966
>>7456083
Not really, I'll elaborate in the morning. Going to sleep, but feel free to leave questions. I can also answer stuff about taobao and Chinese brands, it's sorta vague to talk about the nation community in general. Leaving a trip so nobody tries to make shit up while I'm gone.

>> No.7456132

>>7456107
Thanks for posting anon, it was a very interesting read!

>> No.7456264

>>7451804
Ah, that manga, I don't even know how to feel about it entirely. So many off feels. I'll just say good.

>> No.7456281

>>7456107
Thank you! I've been curious about the chinese community, since I started studying the language this year, and plan on visiting china someday. Maybe I can meet chinese lolitas!

>> No.7456374

>>7453017
I live across the country and I think you sound like a stuck-up cunt with a vagina full of sand.

Noobs gonna noob. If you hate your ugly ita comm so much just leave, don't post 20 pics of the people you think are ugly.

>> No.7456436

>>7452203
High-five for awesome SoCal comms! We have a lot of newbies in ours (sounds like it might be the same one as you need on the description), but they learn fast, especially since the veterans are really accepting and helpful. It also helps that we meet ALL THE Time, so it's easy to get to know people.

>> No.7457112

>>7456436
when i was active in lolita the one event i went to was a socal comm event. everyone was so nice! it felt very drama free, just everyone having fun together and everything. glad to hear it sounds the same!

>> No.7457227

>>7452203
I was just reading the thread thinking the exact same thing. So Cal has a lot of great lolis, nice girls, and the few itas who show up either flounce quickly or see the well dressed girls and improve.

>> No.7457238

>>7457227
I think it also helps that it's one of the biggest comms, so even if there are a few bitches, the majority are nice, so it reflects well on the whole group. Plus it's easy to make friends with such a big variety of people.

>> No.7457347

Ayo anyone in the Melbourne comm, I was thinking about doing a rabbit themed co-ord for the Easter meet, tacky of okay?

>> No.7457419

>>7457347
not in the melbourne comm but i fucking love easter themed outfits. go for it and post pics please.

>> No.7457451

>>7457419
I probably will end up doing it, if I do I'll post a picture in the lolita general if you want ( I doubt this thread will still be up)
>>7457347
also tacky or okay, oops.

>> No.7459025

New thread >>7459022

>> No.7459071

>>7455810
Fuck this bitch why can't I be her fuck you Lydia eat shit

>> No.7459299

>>7457347
Easter is probably the only time it's really okay to do a rabbit themed coord and not look a bit out of place. Go for it. (Not Melbourne comm btw)

>> No.7459317

>>7457347
There's a meetup album in the photo section of the group with some Easter meet group pics from over the years. You'll see lots if people don rabbit ears so wearing a themed coord isn't going to look out if place.

>> No.7460476

>>7451543
You're talking about NC. What kind of posts should be in the comm then?

>> No.7461356

>>7460476
Not those.

>> No.7461715

>>7451508
Well, it would appear that one of the only friends old-ita has is the 13 year old. It's really quite creepy. What kind of parent would be ok with their kid hanging out with someone more than double their age?! Fatty-chan is still staying away but truely seems to want to help some of the noobs coord well. Old-ita also seems to be color blind by the looks of her first coord. No pix right now cause I think fatty-chan also reads CGL and old-ita is an unstable bitch that would have a tantrum if she found out and would probably blame fatty-chan since they seem to hate each other.