Gothic Lolita General - Summer Unhappy Bag Edition

[Anonymous No.10779272]

> Newest releases
> Your latest purchases
> Dream dresses
> Inspiring Gothic Coords
> Thoughts on the state of gothic
> The pain of Moitié prices
> etc.

[Anonymous No.10779281]

I dont like a single thing in the happy bag, but I have to say, I actually like that Cutsew. It could use more details, Lace around the cuffs of anywhere, really, but it's not a bad basic piece. I actually kinda like the look of that awful skirt with it as daily wear or something. Granted, I could probably make that cutsew so, idk if i'd pay 70bucks for it.

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>>10779272
>Inspiring Gothic Coords
ye

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>>10779272
Is anyone else getting the 25th anniversary happy bag? It’s such a good deal and there are a few beautiful pieces that could be in them, but Marble is just so hit or miss. I’m not sure if I should take the plunge or not.

Either way, I think Ill wait for atepie’s summer sale and see what else I want to spend my money on first. It starts this weekend for those of you that don’t know!

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>>10779602
>btssb
>gothic
newfags fuck off

[Anonymous No.10779633]

>>10779603
I love her so much

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>>10779632
lol

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>>10779805
isnt that bag from dollskill? i thought she was all about anti-racism but guess not

[Anonymous No.10779862]

>>10779847
I think it's a brand that dollskill just stocks

[Anonymous No.10779865]

Some of you have really bad taste.

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>>10779281
do you have pics of the female happy pack? i could only find the male one, i'm confused

[Anonymous No.10779920]

Is there a promo code for Moitie right now?

[Anonymous No.10781087]

small dump

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>>10781087
i normally dislike those strappy contraptions but she makes it work with the boots

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>>10781101
I wouldn't have expected this to work but wow, she really makes that white dress work with all the black accessories

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>>10781110
Gothic shiro is my favorite tho

[Anonymous No.10781985]

>>10781126
same but it's not really a shiro coord if it has black accessories

[Anonymous No.10782116]

>>10779272
So is Mana gay or what? I discovered this nigga back in 2007 or whatever and always wondered.

[Anonymous No.10782184]

>>10782116
he is married with a son

[Anonymous No.10782185]

>>10782184
proof?

[Anonymous No.10782187]

>>10782184
doesn't mean he's not gay, look at kojima

[Anonymous No.10782214]

>>10782116
he used to get into actual fistfights with people who thought he was gay or a woman, so take that how you will LOL.

[Anonymous No.10782260]

>>10782214
any sauce on this?

[Anonymous No.10782264]

>>10782187
the game developer?

[Anonymous No.10782349]

>>10779615
I adore the composition of this photo, it's so pleasant to look at and reminds me of old brand ads. Would've been even better if the horizon wasn't tilted.

>>10779632
Do you really think the overall coord is sweet?

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>>10782349
it's classic bro

[Anonymous No.10785167]

I was going to get the new Moitie blouse, but just saw the measurements. The size 9 is 96 bust/82 waist, with no waist ties? What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.10785170]

>>10785167
The designers forgot that the E in EGL stands for elegant

[Anonymous No.10785194]

>>10782359
>that cross
>those shoes
>"classic"

nah

[Anonymous No.10785198]

>>10782349
>Do you really think the overall coord is sweet?
No, I think it's fucking ita

[Anonymous No.10785218]

>>10785198
Nobody asked, that wasn't even the question

[Anonymous No.10785249]

>>10782349
nta, but black sweet is a real thing. This is black sweet lolita. Gothic styling is more simplistic, along with dress design. There's too much lace on that BTSSB dress to be gothic. Not saying BTSSB can't be, but it's a styling thing and I understand any anon that says btssb isn't gothic as well.

The whole misconception that gothic = black is newfaggy and akin to these GLB nerds coming in and claiming gothic is gothic lolita. Gothic lolita is becoming too ambiguous because of new people.

[Anonymous No.10785251]

>>10785249
Meant to say kurorori actually. Kuro is sweet lolita typically.

[Anonymous No.10785253]

>>10782214
>>10782116
He's at least bi. I know someone who had an "experience" with him early 2000's.

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>>10779605
im gonna start collecting middle part inspo, i love the look of this

[Anonymous No.10785264]

>>10779632
>>10785249

while i do think that btssb dress leans more sweet/kuro sweet, the brand is not the deciding factor if whether or not a coord is gothic, classic, or sweet. Design, cut, technique, color, and styling *is*. Btssb has released gothic dresses, it's just not their primary genre.

MM for instance has released a sweet dress, despite being a classic brand (Perfume Bottle OP). It has enough elements to be classic-ish, but it still leans more sweet, especially with the replicated panel prints.

[Anonymous No.10785270]

>>10785249
>There's too much lace on that BTSSB dress to be gothic
You're the one making yourself sound like a newfag, it's especially obvious because you keep repeating "muh GLB is not all lolita" in every post

[Anonymous No.10785273]

>>10785270
There's quite literally no point trying to educate you newfags. You're going to keep dressing in all black and going "ERM GERTHIC"

[Anonymous No.10785282]

>>10785270
kek i was just about to post that, but here's another btssb dress that imo is more gothic then sweet. has a lot of elements as >>10781097

>thin rope bow
>minimal details

brand not being the sole factor is common knowledge

[Anonymous No.10785283]

>>10785282
dropped

[Anonymous No.10785288]

>>10785218
Yeah it was kek. Coording an obviously sweet design with all Moitie accessories doesn't make it gothic, and it doesn't belong in the gothic lolita general.

[Anonymous No.10785296]

>>10785282
Nayrt, but that OP is VM
>https://lolibrary.org/items/victorian-maiden-velveteen-flare-sleeve-op

[Anonymous No.10785302]

>>10785273
There is black sweet. This is not it at all.

[Anonymous No.10785304]

>>10785288
Which JSK is it? From the picture it looks like a minimalistic black dress with some lace that could easily be coord goth

[Anonymous No.10785307]

>>10782264
Yes, he pretty openly thirsts over male celebs on twitter. Not to mention how homoerotic his games are

[Anonymous No.10785343]

>>10785302
Sorry you're new. You look bad claiming this in public to tenured people. It's like ita logic. u got ita brain

[Anonymous No.10785357]

>>10785343
no, plenty of goths coord simple black baby dresses with lace as goth. there's nothing "sweet" about some of them, because lace alone isn't sweet. by that retard logic, antique beast is sweet because it's got bows and lace. if you're actually even an oldfag, you must be a perma-ita

[Anonymous No.10785385]

>mfw this thread

[Anonymous No.10785389]

did someone ask for lacy gothic coords

because i have em. here is one in memory of anons who used to say rounded collars could not be used for gothic lolita

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>>10785343
>>10785288
never seen such ita logic, jesus. it is lolita 101 that brand =/= substyle decider.

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>>10785404
Wow, and not a single one has the same type of super sweet lace the Baby jsk has. Sorry you're blind.

[Anonymous No.10785410]

>>10785407
Who cares dork

[Anonymous No.10785412]

>>10785407
enjoy the lace, sport

it will give you something to aim for when you next move your goalposts

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>>10785407
what "super sweet lace" are you even talking about? plain roses?

[Anonymous No.10785457]

>>10785407
do tell, what is "super sweet" about the lace -- or anything else -- on this relatively plain and style-neutral jsk

[Anonymous No.10785465]

>>10785394
Too much shoop

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>>10785407
so the microcut on lace is what makes a coord not goth? got it.

[Anonymous No.10785497]

lace

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>>10785418
seeing fanny outside of classic is interesting

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>>10785500
she is living the dream

she officially won at lolita when they hired her

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>>10785505
ideal lolita micro-celebrity. she doesn’t talk much or over share so it’s hard to hate her with any validity. although, i’ve definitely seen people reach

[Anonymous No.10785766]

>>10785654
Say you’re joking. Every word out of her mouth is whinging or a complaint.

[Anonymous No.10786016]

>>10785766
genuinely confused, but i follow her on platforms and don't see anything?? does she delete?

[Anonymous No.10786094]

>>10785500
i just don't understand why anyone would ever choose to go by that name. depending on where you live, it means either ass or pussy.

[Anonymous No.10786126]

>>10785500
I didn't even recognize her! She looks great.

>>10786094
Some people have that name as their legal christian name

[Anonymous No.10786155]

>>10786126
yeah but hers is "fanny rose"... why not just go by rose if your first name is related to something vulgar

[Anonymous No.10786161]

>>10785401
whoa, that bag. sauce??

[Anonymous No.10786343]

>>10786155
The name itself is not related to anything vulgar, it's just that you are so perverted that you can only see the vulgar meaning while looking at it.

[Anonymous No.10786355]

>>10786155
Some people are named "Dick". I even knew someone named "Gay". It's really not a big deal to anyone who isn't some childish idiot.

[Anonymous No.10786367]

>>10786094
are you american? in any case, English speakers always center themselves in every conversation.

she's french Canadian. the name means nothing in french except a name. get over yourself

[Anonymous No.10786388]

>>10786161
I think its killstar

[Anonymous No.10788663]

>>10785457
nayrt, but what is this JSK's name?

[Anonymous No.10788664]

>>10788663
Millefeuille JSK

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>>10786155
Just wait until you hear about Dick van Dyke

[Anonymous No.10788717]

>>10785497
too sweet, go back to the AP thread

[Anonymous No.10788720]

>>10788717
lol

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it is still lace o'clock

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>>10786367
nta but im american and thats not even a thing here theyre just fucking weird

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>>10788738
She always shoops her eyes way too much

[Anonymous No.10789535]

Did anybody order this dress from Alpstola over the spring? It was supposed to be shipped June/July and I've seen a lot of other people received their packages but I haven’t received a package, let alone shipping number, and I’m not sure which would be the best way to reach out to them. Message through IG? Since they seem to be fairly active through there?
Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.10791915]

evening summer coords

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>>10791922
I want that chair

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>>10791915
I love this

[Anonymous No.10792183]

>>10789535
I got mine really quickly. I'm in Australia though. They also included a bunch of snacks which I loved.

[Anonymous No.10792261]

>>10785421
Anyone know the brand of these stockings?

[Anonymous No.10792267]

>>10792261
looks like abilletage

[Anonymous No.10792466]

>>10792183
Did they send you a tracking number or did it just show up one day? I’ve tried contacting them through both their IG in English and Japanese, as well as through the inquiry submission linked in their original email when my order was confirmed back in April. I haven’t received a response. I’m really worried they just forgot about my order and if I open up a PayPal claim I don’t want to be banned. I just want my dress. I want to get the newest dress they’ve posted too, but I can’t justify spending more money when I’m already out almost $400 for a dress I haven’t received or gotten an update about.

[Anonymous No.10794081]

>>10792466
Yeah they sent me a tracking number. I hope it turns up soon!

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>>10791915
more

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>>10794081
I guess they only received some orders and not all of them? Items are being delayed 3 weeks -2 months. It took several weeks but I’m glad they finally responded to my message and they said it will be shipped out soon

[Anonymous No.10798341]

has anyone ever done the private shopping service with AtePi?
I've been waiting for them to start up again and they're doing it this month but I'd like to hear reviews first

[Anonymous No.10798377]

>>10798341
I've never even heard of it. Why would you choose it over just buying from the online shop?

[Anonymous No.10798398]

>>10798341
>>10798377
I've done it before and it was really good, you get to see lots of items from handmade/smaller indie brands that don't make it to the webshop, if you're looking for that kind of thing I'd recommend it

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>>10798341
Where can we sign up? I always miss the IG livestreams and the host doesn’t do a good job exhibiting stuff in the store.

[Anonymous No.10798613]

>>10798377
It's a private video call where you get to see items that aren't online and ask questions/get advise

[Anonymous No.10798618]

>>10798377
They've been doing it regularly for a couple of years, it started during the pandemic afaik.

[Anonymous No.10798705]

>>10798398
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>>10798618
that sounds pretty nice. i assume you'd have to know japanese, though?

[Anonymous No.10798717]

>>10798705
Nonny, it is pretty well-known that AtePie has English-speaking staff

[Anonymous No.10798718]

>>10798717
for online orders i've dealt with them, but i wouldn't know if they would also have the english-speaking staff on hand doing this event, or if all of them speak english. that's why im asking

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>>10798341
Aw, I wish I had known about this. Do you request specific items for them to show you or do they just recommend things to you?

[Anonymous No.10804184]

>>10803554
You can do either, just write the specific items you want to see or ask for suggestions based on a style/theme etc

[Anonymous No.10804206]

Was waiting for them to do this! So lovely!

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>>10779597
yeye

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>>10804206

I wonder if this means moitie will rerelease the dress. And if they do, I hope they don't make it another unflattering cheap looking cut

[Anonymous No.10805354]

>>10791916
>>10794302
Is she wearing this corset upside down? I’ve never seen one where the top was so much wider than the bottom.

[Anonymous No.10805363]

>>10805354
It does look like it's upside down. But maybe there's some shoop shenanigans going on, or this is just her body shape and she has a huge ribcage.

The loops and pegs appear to be on the usual side so it's possible she's wearing it right side up. If we could see her back with the lacing gap it could all make sense if the corset has a V shaped lacing gap.

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>>10805354
>>10805363
yes, she is.

[Anonymous No.10805424]

>>10805363
>The loops and pegs appear to be on the usual side so it's possible she's wearing it right side up.
fashion corsets don't have a "usual side", anon.

[Anonymous No.10805428]

>>10805424
I was taught it was loops on the right side and pegs on the left side but this was for functional corsets. I had no idea that fashion corsets were lawless.

[Anonymous No.10805430]

>>10805428
yeah they're extremely lawless lol. i was taught the same thing, but fashion corsets are like the wild west, especially if they're being made by chinese companies who don't know corset conventions.

[Anonymous No.10805467]

>>10805430
in the light of this information I think it's possible she is wearing it upside down on purpose, so as to not squish the skirt poof too much.

[Anonymous No.10808297]

lolita

[Anonymous No.10808298]

>>10805354
>thinking the Japanese know how to properly wear corsets
Anon, I…

[Anonymous No.10808549]

What is MMM referring to in their Instagram post about slandering and harassing on social media?

[Anonymous No.10808560]

>>10808549
tiktok idiots accusing mana of cultural appropriation or something.

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>>10808560
Wokeisim

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>>10808549
wasn’t there some crazy lady who was called out by them for stalking or something?

[Anonymous No.10808644]

>>10808549
no sauce??

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>>10808644
Go to the moitie instagram

[Anonymous No.10808724]

>>10808560
>>10808626
more deets? not on IG

[Anonymous No.10808732]

i'd want to see a girl in something like this

links if wondering
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1014559975
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f1051209668

[Anonymous No.10809619]

New Moitie release: Cross Rose Synthetic Leather series. Drops Sept. 29 6PM JST

[Anonymous No.10809672]

>>10809619
I was expecting people to reeee about this all over social media but so far I haven't seen any

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>>10809619
Looks cool, although I wish the crosses went all the way around the border and that it wasn't short enough to show my ass. I might get something else in the series when they reveal better pics.

[Anonymous No.10809697]

>>10809619
Looks cool but doubt I could wear this in my humid hellscape. On that note, do the newer bat crossbody bags peel less?

[Anonymous No.10809785]

>>10809697
just buy a real leather one secondhand

[Anonymous No.10809893]

>>10809619
I really love this, however I'm worried about it pilling. While I don't live in a very humid climate, we still get a fair amount of humidity and heat in the summer.

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>>10809893
You should be more concerned about your skin peeling off after few hours of wearing such non breathable material in humid heat

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>>10809945
That thought hadn't even occurred to me. Thanks anon.

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>>10809959
>>10809945
are you a moron?

[Anonymous No.10809989]

>>10779598
someone please remind me who makes these tulle/lace cathedral JSK things

[Anonymous No.10809991]

>>10809989
Moitie x Baroque collab

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>>10809964
Nah, I think Nimrod is the word you are looking for.

[Anonymous No.10810644]

>>10805312
I thought the same thing, let us pray for a good rerelease

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>>10809619
Same concerns about the pleather not holding up as other anons. I really prefer the skirt of this in particular, as the JSK looks too boxy and sleek for my taste, but I'd need it to run a few more cm larger. Oh well.

I like the mens sweater they're releasing with the same embroidery but I would be swimming in it, wish they would release a ladies size of that.

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>>10808560
It’s true, these silly Nips need to stop appropriating European goth culture and go back to wearing kimonos and eating rice.
Stay in your lane!

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>>10811249
They were probably referring to Mana's hairstyles in Malice Mizer. Why would they even dig it up 20 years later? Nobody cares.

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>>10811270
I bet most of them complaining were american, they always are and they think they can speak for everybody. The rest of the world doesn't care

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>>10811282
I've noticed this too - white Americans are the only ones who are ever offended on behalf of everyone, meanwhile the actual people that are supposed to be offended don't give a shit, and some even appreciate their culture being represented

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>>10811300
it's because they think they're using their "position of power" for good or something. they do the same thing with gay people and people with disabilities. they're either just admitting they think their opinion is more valuable, or actively contributing to the idea that it is.

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>>10811270
I seriously doubt there are any indigenous tribes that wear their hair like that… also I miss Malice Mizer, they had some awesome costumes.
>>10811303
Like how they invented “latinx” because they feel a moral obligation to “fix” the Spanish language to make it more “inclusive” kek. They actually don’t care at all about other cultures, they just like to pretend to be offended about everything to act morally superior.

[Anonymous No.10811402]

why cant atepie release nice things anymore

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>>10811402
because it's a nice classic piece?? Just wait a bit and there'll be more gothic

[Anonymous No.10812421]

More new Moitie, ¥50050 tax included.

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>>10812421
Such a shame, nice print, but the weird window box bodice ruins it for me.

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>>10812421
I like it. I might put the money towards their December tea party instead.

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>>10812421
I really love this especially the lace but it also looks bad cause there’s not enough fabric for that poof. It’s like a bell that’s turning into an A.

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>>10812421
Love the print and the French maid bodice, but the silhouette/fit of nu-Moitie ruins all of their releases

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>>10812421
I was thinking, "wow, 50k jpy? That's an awful lot." Then I checked and it's just 340 usd, the fucking jpy (x100) is a mere 0.68 usd. Lol, lmao even. Is there a bottom? The japs must be seething.

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>>10812490
Yeah the skirt looks so narrow

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>>10812476
Lack of enough fabric for the poof was probably a necessary costing choice bc jap economy in the gutter

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>>10812732
But this is a reservation. I’d pay more for the appropriate poof.