My Dress-Up Darling/Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru

[Anonymous No.10728173]

Seems like the series exploded in popularity for both men and women since it started airing. Can you really make cosplays based on advice presented n the show? Anyone entering the cosplay contest run by the official site?

[Anonymous No.10728211]

For brevity's sake it doesn't go super in depth but the underlying base is sound. Obviously there's a lot of steps they didn't include so it's not going to be that quick and easy

[Anonymous No.10728249]

The main guy had sewing experience which made the end result more believable for me. But also expect to look at tired as him and still have shit result for first try. I am curious how much sewing/making tips they will present in future episodes though.

[Anonymous No.10728252]

>>10728173
>Anyone entering the cosplay contest run by the official site?
Which official site? There's 3 or 4

[Anonymous No.10728263]

>>10728252
>https://bisquedoll-anime.com/special/cosplay/#en

Official anime site. The contest is open to anyone internationally. It's more of a cosplay raffle draw than contest; eligible entries will have a chance to win a voice recording from Marin's VA and also be announced by the official Japanese Twitter. I noticed a lot of comments from Japanese people saying that it's extremely rare for official sites to acknowledge non-professional and non-contract fan works, so I hope the contest is successful and other series might do similar in the future.

[Anonymous No.10728267]

>>10728173
kinda. I only read the manga so bear in mind. a lot of it is throwing around random sewing jargon which is pretty cringe, but a lot of the underlying concepts are very very simple but true (eg. camera angles). The protag is annoyingly a pushover (yet another "pushover/shy MC and active girl" shitshow) and the show kind of kills it with how much fanservice there is (although it is pretty indicative of who goes far in cosplay lmao)

[Anonymous No.10728405]

https://discord.gg/YJd6gb2GFJ

[Anonymous No.10728554]

>>10728405
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.10732220]

>>10728173
I'm watching because I can't go back to cons yet (and no, not just because le rona)
I did get a lot of enjoyment out of the scene where she gets stopped for pictures, it was her first time and they captured that feeling pretty well

[Anonymous No.10732377]

>>10732220
Is it realistic though? To have made a show-stopping cosplay with your first attempt? Most people's first cosplay have been thrift store potato sacks and sad wigs.

[Anonymous No.10732380]

>>10732377
It's not unrealistic to make a good first cosplay

[Anonymous No.10732399]

>>10732377
For someone who knows how to sew and make garments, it’s possible. I’m not sure how realistic it is for someone who is used to making Japanese style doll clothes (as Japanese clothing is all straight lines) to make a western style dress with no experience with making womens’ clothes, but he did a lot of research so it’s possible, but not probable.

[Anonymous No.10732408]

>>10732399
He did a lot of research and has general basic sewing skills, had a cosplay sewing mag, knew how to pick quality wig and fabrics (the main part newbies fuck up on and they even showed the girl almost making that mistake with the shiny fabric and not considering the undertone on the wig), etc. Not at all unreasonable that he'd have done a good job.

[Anonymous No.10732459]

>>10732377
it's unrealistic but not impossible for the most part. it was bs that he'd be able to do her makeup though, drawing japanese doll faces is not the same at all as applying makeup on a human lol. maybe if he was into bjds it would be plausible.

[Anonymous No.10732465]

>>10732459
If he was practicing the more detailed dolls that involve blushing and fake lashes it does make sense. He even had the false lashes for trying to use on modern versions of the dolls like what he'd seen on socials.

The show did a lot of work to basically explain how he was able to pull it off moderately well while still acknowledging errors like him not leaving enough ease in the costume since humans move and dolls don't, or forgetting to measure with her push up bra, and picking a heavy fabric that was accurate or nice quality but then they weren't prepared for the weight and heat in the weather at the convention/meetup.

[Anonymous No.10732466]

>>10732377
>Most people's first cosplay have been thrift store potato sacks and sad wigs.
meet up. Which makes a pretty decent recreation on a very cute girl look way better by comparison. Show stopping doesn't mean an experienced cosplayer made it, just that her in the costume was done well enough to grab attention and stand out.

[Anonymous No.10732467]

>>10732377
tbf they did show Marin's first attempt and it was a dumpster fire lol. And while it's not super likely for the guy to do such an amazing job for the first time, they did justify it pretty well with all his previous experience and research - not just into the techniques, but the character as well.

>>10732459
>drawing japanese doll faces is not the same at all as applying makeup on a human lol
yes this is true lol. If anything it would make more sense to me that she'd apply her existing skills after following a tutorial or something or that they would figure it out together - I assumed she wears make-up often just based on her personal style.

[Anonymous No.10732569]

>>10732408
>>10732399
I agree that he has the insight and attention to quality to pull off a good cosplay on the first attempt, but considering that he did it in 10 days while running on fumes is incredible.

[Anonymous No.10732716]

>>10732569
gojou has plot power, he'll be fine

[Anonymous No.10734320]

how do I find a bf like gojou

[Anonymous No.10734325]

>>10734320
i sew my own costumes and want a marin gf. can you be my marin gf?

[Anonymous No.10734335]

>>10734320
>how do I find a bf with basic skills and some kind of hobby and or passion
1. Try to limit the influence of the internet on your life
2. Escape urbanized hell

[Anonymous No.10734349]

wish people would talk about this show other than marin being MUH WAYFOO of the month

[Anonymous No.10734361]

>>10734349
You have to understand anon, this new genre where a girl brings a socially inept guy out of his shell is a form of salvation literature. These people come to this media to be saved, it's no wonder they're zealots.

[Anonymous No.10734367]

>>10734349
I'm willing to discuss other aspects of the show, especially the cosplay angle. It's nice to see cosplay representation [the construction side] in anime but at the same time it's all through JP lens, even if there are shared elements between JP and western cosplay culture and conventions.

[Anonymous No.10734368]

>>10734361
>anime of the 90s and early 2000s was exclusively guys doing stuff and the girl is just the supportive accessory
>misogynistic
>modern anime is exclusively the girl doing stuff with the guy just as the supportive accessory
>misogynistic

Honestly why did you ever get into the medium?

[Anonymous No.10734374]

>>10734368
Because I was socially inept, seems that socially inept people are drawn to that sorta thing. I think you're underselling anime a bit though, there are certain sensibilities anime creators have that western animators don't.

[Anonymous No.10734393]

>>10732459
It was also bs that a gyaru doesn’t know how to put on fake lashes lol

[Anonymous No.10734396]

>>10734393
This

[Anonymous No.10734455]

>>10728211
>>10728249
They hit the nail on the head. Good overview and believable that the main guy could do it. If you watch the show or read the manga it gives you an outline on how to make a custom cosplay outfit.

[Anonymous No.10734769]

>>10734361
this new trope is already so fucking overplayed it's insane. nagatoro, the gray haired chick with the fat tits, komisan, this one, those two kids with the smug chick, etc. etc. Every single one (EVERY SINGLE ONE) has the same boring ass self insert guy. At least give the guy some backbone or some sort of defining characteristic.

[Anonymous No.10734775]

>>10734769
that's the joke, it's a cliché. you listed a bunch of recent mangas but this is not a new trope at all.

[Anonymous No.10734776]

>>10734769
See
>>10734368

[Anonymous No.10734831]

>>10734769
>>10734361
If you don't understand the main character of the story is the girl and not the boy, you either need to watch it further or read the manga. The boy in there is literal human male ideal with awesome personality, good looks and skills necessary for the main girl while her only redeemable quality is her cuteness.

[Anonymous No.10734838]

>>10734831
Yeah and it's kind of funny that the girl is the inept otaku. She's got more in common with Umaru Douma than Nagatoro or Uzaki (minus also being a gyaru like Nagatoro), and she's not negging the main character constantly. It's just a cute wacky high school romance but extra weeby.

Tbh as someone who wears j-fashion the worst thing about the anime was her friend with the pigtails, lolipop, and red hair streaks confirming jirai kei e-girl shit is part of mainstream popular fashion in Japan now. Feelsbadman

[Anonymous No.10734845]

>>10734838
There is nothing wrong with jirai kei

[Anonymous No.10734847]

>>10734845
>there's nothing wrong with nlog kei
uh huh. it's literally edgy egirl shit from japan.

[Anonymous No.10734859]

>>10734845
Ayrt, I don't find the styles bad looking or anything, it just makes me feel old that gyaru has evolved so far away from what I remember that even anime gals (who represent the most recognizable version of the style to those who don't wear it at the time the anime or manga was released) are dressed like egirls now lol.

[Anonymous No.10734889]

>>10734859
you're retarded

[Anonymous No.10735512]

>>10728211
I got mad when she bought contacts at a wig store. It might be different over there but you really want those by prescription.

[Anonymous No.10735576]

>>10734349
Why do that when they can just have their coombait of the month

[Anonymous No.10735646]

>>10735512
It is completely different. You can walk into an eyewear store and walk out with prescription glasses for someone else. They have so much less barriers to obtaining vision correction tools.
Cosplay wig stores have been carrying contact lens for a very long time now, it's the norm to get your wig and contacts together (unless you're bargain-hunting).

[Anonymous No.10735669]

>>10735646
>>10735512
That thing about contacts ruining your eyes is just for chinese made ones. Otherwise it's a meme. Westerner eye doctors barely want to give you your prescription because they make bank off of you buying glasses and stuff.

[Anonymous No.10735783]

>>10735669
if you get the wrong base curve though, you could fuck up your corneas. It's not highly likely, but still not something I'd wanna play with.

that said I had my doctor personally vet my circle lenses. she's pretty cool

[Anonymous No.10735812]

>>10734847
>>10734859
>egirl boogeyman
Cringe

[Anonymous No.10735828]

>>10735812
egirl is a style you moron.

[Anonymous No.10735849]

>>10735783
Maybe 99% of East Asians all have the same eyeball curve? I've never had an issue buying color contacts from Japan, not even the whole "must upload an Rx from your optometrist bs", and they all fit me just fine.

[Anonymous No.10735917]

>>10735849
yeah I think 8.6 is the most common one and you can deviate from that by a few points before experiencing discomfort from the contact suctioning your eyeball too hard, or on the other extreme straight up popping out. Most lenses I've seen are 8.6 and I've personally worn them just fine as well.

[Anonymous No.10735918]

>>10735576
This is something that really tears me apart. Stuff like Sono Bisque Doll is genuinely good and entertaining/comfy (if still male-oriented and therefore coombait), so I want other people to be into it so we can discuss it together. So in THEORY anime should have a good effect, right? But then the anime comes out and the threads become unbearable. The only type of series I don't see this happen to typically are slice of life or comedy series, where drama is left to the side in favor of simple character interactions.

[Anonymous No.10735919]

>>10735917
nta but the deviation is usually caused by a vision problem. most people who don't need glasses have the same base curve.

[Anonymous No.10735922]

>>10735812
I'm one of the ayrt and I don't think the egirl look is bad. I'm just lamenting that even as a(n older) zoomer I feel old seeing gyaru change from that classic look to the current state in such a big way. Honestly if it wasn't cute to some degree no one would wear it, clearly there's some appeal. I don't think of it as a boogeyman at all.

[Anonymous No.10735932]

>>10735918
Because 1-2 pages of a skimpy swimsuit tease turns into 30-60 seconds of breast jiggling when animated, making it a lot more fanservice-y

[Anonymous No.10736129]

>>10735512
In Japan colored contacts are sold freely. In terms of retail industry this manga is top-notch.

[Anonymous No.10736717]

How are we feeling about the new episode, gulls? The scene where Juju remembers her first cosplay felt so accurate to me. My first cosplay was shitty too, but the feeling of putting it all on for the first time was ethereal. Also Juju has good taste for magical girls.

[Anonymous No.10736731]

>>10736717
I thought it was cute as well, and the moment where Gojo cries because he understands the feeling of pride when someone really loves what you've made after working so hard.

It's also so cute how at the beach they're just having fun together and talking openly about their desires even if no one explicitly says they like each other. Feels like the emotional equivalent of a liminal space, in a good way.

[Anonymous No.10736733]

>>10734838
>pigtails, lolipop, and red hair streaks confirming jirai kei e-girl shit is part of mainstream popular fashion in Japan now. Feelsbadman
if deathnote would have first released today you probably would call misa egirl too, jp edgelords have always looked like this, more so chuunis

[Anonymous No.10736734]

>>10736733
Idk if egirl and jirai are synonymous but Misa definitely had toxic landmine behavior so yeah you're not wrong exceot the way she dressed wasn't distinctly jirai inspired.

I don't even think the style looks bad. I already said it just makes me feel old/nostalgic that gyaru is evolving. The character is honestly adorable looking and I think it's interesting and cool that the stereotype of a gal in anime is changing to reflect trends even if it leaves me pining for more typical gal looks.

[Anonymous No.10736777]

>>10736734
kill yourself. this isn't even related to gyaru.

[Anonymous No.10736784]

>>10736777
>this isn't even related to gyaru.
Half of the main couple of this anime is literally a gal, and it seems based on her friends' appearances at least some of them are also gals/into alt fashion. It was discussed in gal threads on cgl but a lot of gal (and other) brands are leaning into egirl and jirai kei aesthetics because they've become trendy.

[Anonymous No.10736885]

>>10736717
Juju's family is loaded, no wonder no one has slapped her back into reality that she can't become a magical girl. That's okay, her views on cosplay are the same as mine.

[Anonymous No.10736892]

>>10736731
Oh I'm glad you brought that up. I didn't quite understand what Juju was trying to say about why it had to be Gojo who made her costume. From Gojo's perspective, I understand and appreciate the feelings of pride and joy because his work is being recognized and he begins to understand the cycle of craftsmanship, but what did it do for Juju that it had to be Gojo's work when she likely has other connections?

[Anonymous No.10736914]

>>10736892
I think Juju was trying to say she wanted to feel the way it looked like the main girl felt. She could probably feel that energy of feeling like you've truly become the character you love or want to be and wanted that for herself. And in her mind as a teenager her brain goes straight to "if I have her costume maker I can feel that way too". But I think in reality she was seeing the love and happiness from the experience with Gojo in her face too and didn't realize it was more than just the outfit.

[Anonymous No.10736928]

>>10736892
>>10736914
This, she's stated that her dreams is "to become a magical girl" and she thinks costumes made by Gojo would bring her closer to that dream realization after seeing how happy and "in-character" Marin was. She got to see both the in-character photos and the real life Marin having the best time of her life in cosplay.

[Anonymous No.10736929]

>>10736784
>but a lot of gal (and other) brands are leaning into egirl and jirai kei aesthetics because they've become trendy.
because the brands you are talking about never were "gal" brands but fast fashion

[Anonymous No.10736968]

>>10736929
gal IS fast fashion

[Anonymous No.10737078]

>>10728554
No

[Anonymous No.10738821]

Have you ever tried these Bホルダー?

[Anonymous No.10738882]

>>10738821
No, but I have tried the other things advertised in the series

[Anonymous No.10739114]

>>10736914
>>10736928
Oh okay, that makes total sense. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.10739165]

>>10736968
ah yes, a fashion that goes against the mainstream beauty standards is fast fashion, righto

do you not realize how retarded you sound?

[Anonymous No.10739166]

>>10736968
Totally forgot that Uniqlo is gyaru now.

[Anonymous No.10739270]

>>10734838
>>10734859
I'm not sure why you think Nowa is anywhere related to gyaru considering she is depicted as bangya (visual girl fangirl) in the manga which is also older than the fad you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.10739866]

>>10738882
nta, but was the show accurate in how much it can hide? For as big as the little sister was, it hid really well

[Anonymous No.10739869]

Was anyone else really sad that they skipped over the sewing parts this episode? Gojo made two outfits this time and we only got 1 throw away line about what kind of fabric he used. These costumes would've been a step up in difficult for him with the epaulets and sheer thin fabrics. I knew we weren't going to get steps a-z, but I wanted to see a little of it. He seemed to have zero problems during the build too. It would've been nice to see him work with tailoring the garment to fit Juju's small frame or something. I will say that working with ____ on a budget cosplay was really fun to see though.

[Anonymous No.10739879]

>>10739869
Yeah it was disappointing!

[Anonymous No.10739896]

>>10739165
Fast fashion has to do with how fast and often new collections are made. Gyaru is about trends. Niche clothing can still be fast fashion- Killstar is fast fashion. Gyaru is built around temporary trends. It’s fast fashion.

[Anonymous No.10739906]

>>10739896
By your logic lolita is fast fashion too because it follows trends that only exist with that niche subculture to begin with, none of the trends in gyaru were ever a thing you would see in the average town in Japan because it isn't fast fashion.

[Anonymous No.10739908]

>>10739896
you just went full retard, fast fashion brands and stores release new goods on an almost daily basis, meanwhile you need months for new gal stuff to pop up, shit ain't fast fashion

[Anonymous No.10739914]

>>10739869
They skipped even more? All I know of is that Usami-san got completely cut out and the scene of Juju-sama pointing out the embossed fabric is a lot less impactful now. I get that they have to rush to include up to Liz-kyun into the anime (if they're trying to show every cosplay advertised in the OP) but wouldn't the director noticed this rush when he was storyboarding during production? At least the series is doing well enough to warrant a second season.

[Anonymous No.10739921]

>>10739914
Maybe they are reserving the extended stuff for the bluerays to boost sales.

[Anonymous No.10739923]

>>10739921
Unfortunately that probably won't happen. they will go back and uncensor jujus nips though

[Anonymous No.10739928]

>>10739869
I literally just watched it and WOW what a let down! We didn't even see a design, zero hint of a montage. Just... new episode and it cuts to the girls already wearing TWO outfits after he spent 2 weeks scrambling for the last one.

If we're gonna have an anime about the joy of making cosplay, don't we want to see the making??

[Anonymous No.10739930]

>>10739928
oh anon... this show is about modern cosplay (if even that; it seems more focused on fanservice than anything else), where you order new cosplays every other week instead of working on a single one over a month or two.

[Anonymous No.10739938]

>>10739930
Umm, one of the key points of the show is the Gojo can sew and he MAKES costumes, which kicks off the entire story. Premade cosplays is talked about later in the series as an aspect of cosplay but it's not the focus.

[Anonymous No.10739940]

>>10739930
>making a single one over a month or two

hahah good joke
It takes like that long to order materials + accessories like shoes and contact lenses
Then the actual construction begins, which is another 1-3 months to 1-2 years.

[Anonymous No.10739955]

>>10739930
seems like you didn't read the manga because it's not

[Anonymous No.10740076]

>>10739914
I'm not exaggerating when I say there was just 1 throwaway line about the construction of the garments. They do focus on the little sister's costume in the episode, but it's a budget-friendly put-together version so there's zero sewing involved. Is the manga better?

[Anonymous No.10740077]

>>10739928
That's what I'm saying! Like he somewhow made two completely different full outfits with zero struggle that fit exactly the first time the girls tried them on and we don't get to see a blink of it? I was willing to argue accuracy with the first few episodes but this is complete fantasy at this point.

[Anonymous No.10740078]

>>10739940
>which is another 1-3 months to 1-2 years.
ntayrt, but I needed to hear this. I was beating myself up for taking 2 years to make a technically simple garment and its nice to know that it's not an unreasonable timeline for a busy hobbyist.

[Anonymous No.10740090]

>>10740078
Yeah, making a costume in 2 weeks is doable if you have no school/work/chore obligations and you pick something very simple and don't bother with, say, lining or neat work, and budget isn't an issue. Most people miss the part where if you want to budget with coupons/sales and get certain supplies from overseas (either cost or can't find locally), it can take up to 2 months to slowly gather everything, especially if you want to be safe on shipping. The nicest cosplays I see from adults who have day jobs and family obligations often have a progress thread running for months to 2 years.

[Anonymous No.10740093]

>>10740076
Manga has more technical notes but less visual detail

[Anonymous No.10740150]

What are your thoughts on the upcoming blackface tutorial?

[Anonymous No.10740192]

>>10740090
I feel like such a weight has lifted off of my shoulders, thank you.

[Anonymous No.10740193]

>>10740093
I'm a slut for technical details so it sounds right up my alley. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.10740201]

>>10740150
stop diminishing actual blackface

[Anonymous No.10740946]

>>10734320
Are you as hot as Marin?

[Anonymous No.10741009]

>>10740150
>literally calling tanning your skin BLACKFACE

You SJWs need to calm the fuck down when there is no such intention of racism done there, especially if you are a white person saying this. I say this as a brown person

[Anonymous No.10741010]

>>10741009
getting tanned when you're not a labor worker is straight-up appropriating their culture. they can't take it off! but the rich white person can stay out of the sun!

[Anonymous No.10741011]

>>10741009
stop falling for obvious bait. this is one of /cgl/'s biggest problems

[Anonymous No.10741013]

>>10741010
The brown people (like myself) can also lighten our skins which I personally have for cosplay, so there is nothing wrong with going the otherway too.

[Anonymous No.10741014]

>>10741009
this. and even if you're offended at people tanning for cosplay or something, get mad at the people actually shitting on your skintone instead of just reeing about decades of colorism and shit. white weebs aren't running the big beauty industry. but these crazy cunts think wearing certain eye makeup is asian baiting.

[Anonymous No.10741104]

>>10741010
>appropriating their culture

Everytime I hear this, I cringe a little more. White people on Twitter keep saying this and PoC repeatedly either don't care or actually like the idea of foreigners embracing their culture (ie wearing their cultural clothing).

[Anonymous No.10741113]

>>10741011
>this is one of /cgl/'s biggest problems
It used to not be so bad but between the pandemic, Tyler, and Lor sending newfags here it's guaranteed most gulls will fall for the most obvious bait because people are either super neurotic or literal children/teens nowadays.

[Anonymous No.10741132]

>>10741104
I'm never going to understand white people's savior complex. I stay out of the sun and use sunscreen to try and keep my complexion paler for cosplay, so why not tanning for cosplay as well? It's basically the same idea.

[Anonymous No.10741133]

>>10741132
Most people don't care about tanning. Twitter is a ridiculously small portion of the population and the internet at large. Unless you are doing that one dude from dragon ball with the pink lips no one would mistake your cosplay for blackface in the real world. And if you're dressed as the guy from DragonBall people will kind of understand why it looks like blackface.

[Anonymous No.10741136]

>>10741009
It's explicitly said she hasn't tanned for it but used a makeup instead. The tan was a joke.

[Anonymous No.10741141]

>>10741133
people literally get banned from competitions though. even though competitions are literally shit nepotism contests, it still affects the real world. handwaving this sjw trash like it's not a big deal is what got things so bad in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10741147]

>>10741133
>And if you're dressed as the guy from DragonBall people will kind of understand why it looks like blackface.

This kinda use to be fine way back. Had a friend who did this actually back 10 years ago before the woke movement. He still avoided the lipstick as he didn't want to look like he is blackfacing, but everyone was okay then.

Nowadays I imagine he'd get totally banned from cons though

[Anonymous No.10741150]

>>10741136
Doesn't matter, whether by using bronzer, makeup, or in the sun, nothing is wrong with using doing that for cosplay or just aesthetic so long as one isn't trying to be racist about it or stereotype with it. Darker skinned people such as myself lighten our skins, so there is nothing wrong with going the other way too.

[Anonymous No.10741152]

>>10741141
>handwaving this sjw trash like it's not a big deal is what got things so bad in the first place.

This. I was warning people way back not to let this shit slide as I feared it would get this bad, and here we are.

[Anonymous No.10741153]

>>10741150
but anon, you're just self-hating and internalizing your racism or something.

[Anonymous No.10741477]

>>10741150
So you are okay with people wearing your race as a costume?

[Anonymous No.10741482]

Another episode, another cosplay construction that's been completely skipped over. Apparently Gojo has the ability to make cosplays of varying skill levels perfectly the first time and in the blink of an eye.

[Anonymous No.10741508]

Which one of the characters do you guys find more relatable? Is Gojo someone you can relate as much as the girls?

[Anonymous No.10741513]

>>10741477
skintone isn't race. that's so demeaning.

[Anonymous No.10741534]

>>10741482
>gf starts asking me to make cosplays just as good as him in just a few days time

[Anonymous No.10741872]

>>10741513
It's a part of the visual impression of it, just like eye slit which has been addressed several times at this point.

[Anonymous No.10742097]

>>10741477
So long as they aren't doing it to be racist and just for recreation like cosplay, it's fine. I do the same to white people by lightening my skin for some cosplays. No disrespect there. Only dumb SJWs with "white savior complex" try to say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.10742098]

>>10741872
it's demeaning either way, child.

[Anonymous No.10742099]

>>10741477
>>10741872
How it feels when you white people speak for us.

[Anonymous No.10742101]

>>10742099
i mean literally.

[Anonymous No.10742104]

>>10742099
I've read comments from people saying that the manga artist "should've done research online to find out that skin darkening is totally not okay" and I'm like,
The manga artist is Japanese
She did the Japanese research and created a manga whose main demographics is the Japanese people
I'm sorry she didn't happen to appeal to your white western sensibilities and preferences

People here really need to get their white and America-centric heads out of their asses

[Anonymous No.10742112]

the real issue here is people are being offended over THEIR perception of what's going on, and making that the reality. sjws are usually ignorant and too sensitive so instead of listening, they dig their heels in to make themselves right. they have a bully mentality, so what you need to do is ignore them. it's hard but it's worth it in the end. people don't get canceled truly, they just get a new fanbase.

[Anonymous No.10742114]

>>10742104
>She did the Japanese research and created a manga whose main demographics is the Japanese people

to be fair, normal people and not Twitards also agree with the Japanese here too.

[Anonymous No.10742115]

>>10742114
I wonder why this vocal minority is so vocal and stubborn to challenges. I'd reply to them and call out their bs, but I don't want idiots to attack me.

[Anonymous No.10742609]

>>10741477
Not everyone has hours to get tanned on the beach or has a job working in the sun.

[Anonymous No.10742980]

>>10742609
Tan is a meme. Everyone who claimed tanning for cosplay (which is bad as well) was debunked and proven they used either makeup (literal blackface) or photoshop (digital blackface) to alter the tone of their skin. Then they remove it and are back to their privileged white person life.

[Anonymous No.10743025]

>>10742980
Self tanner and spray tans for pageants and modeling are black face now too?

[Anonymous No.10743026]

>>10743025
you're getting baited

[Anonymous No.10743145]

What's the best Marin you have seen so far? This nerd said it's completely impossible for anyone to cosplay her properly, and I'd really like to prove him wrong.

[Anonymous No.10743154]

>>10743145
stop shilling your shit videos.

[Anonymous No.10743170]

>>10743154
what video, schizo?

[Anonymous No.10743177]

the episode was not nearly as offensive as the uber insane sjws made it out to be

[Anonymous No.10743200]

>>10743177
The worst part is knowing Marin read Metamorphosis

[Anonymous No.10743274]

>>10743145
>haha guys im totally not begging for pictures of cute girls dressed as my waifu to jack off to. I just gotta own this nerd, i promise.

[Anonymous No.10743278]

>>10743200
that's a meme that isn't even said in the anime

[Anonymous No.10743304]

>>10742980
Can you niggers not? This is blackface. Stop making shit up to be victims. Its fucking tiresome and old.

[Anonymous No.10743305]

>>10743304

[Anonymous No.10746322]

>>10741150
I was actually thinking about lighting my skin a bit for cosplay, but I never hear about POC that actually do that until now.
Do you use lighting soaps/creams? or do you just use makeup?

[Anonymous No.10746354]

>>10746322
There are a couple of popular ways to go about it and people use any combination of them:

- stay out of the sun as much as possible, apply sunscreen liberally and use a parasol when going out

- skin whitening creams and products, usually it's just glorified sunscreen but some may have harsher chemicals that bleach or exfoliate

- makeup that's a shade or more lighter than your skin tone. Lightening makeup specifically made for cosplay exist

- photo filters, lighting tricks, photoshop, a whole topic for another day

[Anonymous No.10746356]

>>10734368
>>anime of the 90s and early 2000s was exclusively guys doing stuff and the girl is just the supportive accessory
That's not true at all. 90s was when the Magical Shojo genre got really big, and they have girls who do most of the stuff with guys that are less important but at least not pushovers in personality.

[Anonymous No.10746367]

>>10732377

I have been stopped for photos with every one of my cosplays and I started in the 90's. Some of us either cosplay well or don't cosplay at all. I will never go to a convention with a potato sack costume and sad wig.

I even used to go to the hairdresser the day before so I could get perfect hairstyle for the character, when buying wigs was impossible. I only cosplayed characters with a hair color close to mine, too.

Not every cosplayer out there is so thirsty for attention to half-ass their costume, anon.

[Anonymous No.10746371]

>>10732408

They should do a chapter with western ugly cows saying they are professional cosplayers but only do closet cosplay and shiny AF satin. That would be SO realistic. I know two women who do this and they are in their 30's now. They are shittier and shittier each year.

[Anonymous No.10746373]

>>10735512

Do you live in 2005 or what? Regular prescription lenses from a regular optometrist store are not mean for cosplay, but for fashion or halloween.

I can understand people did that when cosplay contact lenses were not available for us. But come on.

[Anonymous No.10746381]

>>10742104

They are the racists ones and will never admit it. They spend their whole fucking days damning and critizising people from other countries and races to get rid of them online because they see them as competition.

And the black Americans are even worse. They literally bully black Asians so their accounts are deleted from social media. They are fucking jealous that the Blasians have dark brown skin with Asian face features, body and hair.

[Anonymous No.10746382]

>>10742115

They are paid by the Russian government to destroy western mentality. Search for Yuri Bezmenov videos. He was a KGB agent and said the Russian agents have been infiltrating the west for decades. All the woke and stupid leftist ideology has been crafted by the Russian government to weaken the westerners mentally, so they can invade us in the future with no resistance.

I'm not even joking. Most of the online polemics are started up by Russian trolls who work for the Russian government in big buildings offices.

It's not China. For the Chinese, we are clients. They want to treat us well so we buy things from them. They aren't interested into destroying western countries. They would destroy themselves too. They aren't as stupid, suicidal and psycopath as the Russian government.

[Anonymous No.10746387]

>>10734361
>this new genre where a girl brings a socially inept guy out of his shell is a form of salvation literature.
New? This has been going on since Video Girl Ai.

[Anonymous No.10746391]

>>10740090

that's because you don't plan anything and just do things out of the blue. I once took a year and a half to make a cosplay because it was really hard. i wore it when it was finished.

every december I have my whole next year cosplay list prepared, including budget for all the materials I need. I have all the wigs, fabrics and other materials found and ready to buy, both in person and online. by March I already have everything and can start crafting my shit.

[Anonymous No.10746558]

>>10746322

Just makeup. I go around 2 shades lighter for rather light characters.

PoC do a lot more lightening than you may have thought as its just not mentioned usually cause it isn't an issue to us.

[Anonymous No.10746560]

>>10746381
>And the black Americans are even worse. They literally bully black Asians so their accounts are deleted from social media.

No bruh, that's literally white people try to talk on behalf of black people. Maybe a few exist there that are PoC, but it's mainly white people being stupid

[Anonymous No.10746601]

>>10746560
Black people don't bully blasians at all. Black people mixed with anything are often fetishized in the black community and seen as more appealing or attractive.

[Anonymous No.10746728]

>>10743025
Why are you strawmanning "muh tan" in the discussion about how using black foundation in order to change the skin color to black is blackface? We aren't talking about tanning or tan imitation, we are talking about being black and imitating being black.

[Anonymous No.10746736]

Kinda ironic how this cosplay goes against Marin's own cosplay principles

[Anonymous No.10747050]

>>10734393
I understand your thinking, but considering ita and if you don't know what you're doing, it's possible.

[Anonymous No.10747068]

Sono Bisque Doll cosplay is the dumbest thing. I get that it's meant to be a kind of thanks to the creator for making cosplayers more visible, but no girl ever manages to come close to actually pulling her off.

It feels like the people cosplaying her are completely missing the point of her character, and don't realize that the best way to carry her spirit is by cosplaying characters that they genuinely love and not appealing to the lowest common denominator by cosplaying as the coomer FotM character.

Yeah, I'm aware a lot of cosplayers do genuinely adore the series and Marin/Gojou as characters, but it still feels wrong for people to cosplay them instead of continuing to cosplay the obscure things they love like Marin does in the show.

[Anonymous No.10747086]

>>10747068
So you are saying to cosplay hardcore H characters.


K

[Anonymous No.10747089]

>>10746728
>we are talking about being black and imitating being black.

Why though? Marin didn't do that and its become a discussion on whether darkening even a shade is okay here

[Anonymous No.10747090]

>>10747086
I didn't say that, but... I mean, if a girl enjoys that kinda thing...

[Anonymous No.10747100]

>>10747068
i actually would probably be really good at cosplaying her but i'm not super interested in doing so.

[Anonymous No.10747102]

>>10747090
girl here, i've played tons of hgames and wish they were popular enough to cosplay from. the only thing people like is shitty nekopara.

[Anonymous No.10747125]

>>10747102
I thought Nekopara uniforms were pretty cute and considered cosplaying it, but my husband called the show/games braindead and killed any motivation I had. He is normally a cat person, I am confused.

[Anonymous No.10747128]

>>10747125
well it's kinda crap. they're basically low-intelligence catgirl fuck toys. they kind of treat the catgirls like children and the mc is fucking annoying. plus the hgame aspect is that they go into heat and the mc just fucks them for convenience. the all ages game is honestly worse because it's just them fucking around and the mc being an irritated jerk for most of it. then the weird stuff with his loli sister... just not very good. it's really popular in japan though because of the live 2D, and the designs are really cute. i have a feeling that younger girls don't realize it's porn though...

[Anonymous No.10747132]

>>10747128
I thought all those contrived slavery plot points and cat characteristics were cute and hilarious (since it's clearly all fantasy and not meant to be taken seriously at all)

[Anonymous No.10747135]

>>10747132
>not meant to be taken seriously at all
what kind of logic is this? that doesn't mean i can't find the characters annoying as fuck. if you like it, good for you, but own it instead of making excuses.

[Anonymous No.10747147]

>>10747089
Except she did. Watch the anime, or better, read the manga.

[Anonymous No.10747215]

>>10747147
adults are talking now.

[Anonymous No.10747263]

>>10747215
You might want to consider your ignorance not being an excuse.

[Anonymous No.10747277]

>>10747263
boohoo, babby thinks tanning is racist now. kys.

[Anonymous No.10747299]

>>10747263
Have you ever seen Jersey Shore?

[Anonymous No.10747442]

>>10747277
You were already shown how your strawman doesn't work here, yet you've doubled down on your failure. Why are you so pathetic?

>>10747299
>reality shows

No, I haven't.

[Anonymous No.10747446]

>>10747125
Get a new husband.

[Anonymous No.10748019]

>>10747277
She hasn't been tanning, she used black skin foundation. This is blackface.

[Anonymous No.10748021]

>>10748019
What's wrong with applying foundation that's a couple shades darker to get a healthy tanned look? Isn't it completely normal for people to use lighter foundation to achieve a pretty pale look as well? Why does your weird standard only apply one way? And then like, if she didn't do anything to tweak the accuracy of her skintone, don't certain white people start clamoring she's somehow whitewashing a fictional character of a fictional race as well? <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/41a37aa0_ReimuPalm.png">

[Anonymous No.10748025]

>>10748021
It's not okay to apply foundation to change the skin color to black. Not sure how so simple to understand yet keeps eluding you.

[Anonymous No.10748035]

>>10748019
>>10748025
Why do Americans need to express how offended they are at how everything is racist? Other countries have completely different ideals and viewpoints.

[Anonymous No.10748058]

>>10748025
>>10748025
White people again telling us brown people stupid shit like this. Nothing is wrong with applying brown makeup so long as it is not done in caricature and done for recreation like cosplay

[Anonymous No.10748093]

>>10748058
So how this cosplay, banned from one of the most significant european events/contests, because people asked them to and explained the reasoning behind it, was done in caricature and not in recreation?

[Anonymous No.10748244]

>>10748093
Whatever cherries you pick, the vast majority of people around the world don't have this woke pov.

[Anonymous No.10748278]

>>10748058
Shut the fuck up whitey

[Anonymous No.10748284]

>>10748093
He really should have gone for a brown-greenish undead makeup for Pyke. It would have been a lot safer and easier to justify.

[Anonymous No.10748297]

>>10748025
That is not an explanation at all. That is simply saying "you can't do it because you can't do it".

Actually, you're really saying "Other people can't do this because I don't think they can"

[Anonymous No.10748299]

>>10748025
japanese people can tan, get over it. it's an anime character.

[Anonymous No.10748356]

>>10748299
It has nothing to do with the tan though.

>>10748244
Name me at least 5 world or region scale contests explicitly allowing (or assigning points as part of a judging criteria) for makeup which allows one to effectively change the skin color.

Here I have recent developments which prove my point, not yours: "As outlined in Appendix A: “Finalists are expected to make use of makeup and shaping for their costumes where
appropriate, but it is not a modelling contest, accuracy extends to the costume itself not the physical traits of the
cosplayer wearing it. The spirit of the competition allows people to choose who or what they want to portray,
according to their cosplay skills.”
Judges are considering the craftsmanship put into the costume, not how much the Finalist looks like their chosen
character. So, for example, it is not acceptable to penalize a Finalist if their body shape is different from their chosen
character but they could be rewarded for sensible choices made in costume design and construction to better
emulate the proportions of the character e.g. the use of padding underlayers or clever tailoring. Similarly, good use
of makeup for age or gender transformations can be rewarded but not penalized if these techniques are not
employed.
The use of makeup, including prosthetics, to change your natural skin tone to another realistic race has been a
contentious topic for a number of years in the global cosplay community. While not usually intended to cause
offence, using makeup in this way carries connotations of historical practices that were inherently racist and it
contributes to an environment where people of color are made to feel uncomfortable to portray characters outside
their race, and it is not appropriate for the competition.
By understanding that costume accuracy does not include skin color, age, gender or body shape, we include and
invite everyone to portray any character that they love."

[Anonymous No.10748363]

>>10748356
We are arguing past each other. I am talking about normal people and occasions, you are talking about contests.

[Anonymous No.10748367]

>>10748356
>retarded english speaker doesn't realize what 黒(kuro) means
oh i see.

[Anonymous No.10748377]

>>10748284
>he
>makeup
That's a latex mask on a woman.

[Anonymous No.10748383]

>>10748377
Nayrt but damn I see why she felt like she had to cover her face and cosplay as a man...yeeeesh

[Anonymous No.10748495]

Anons, can we go back to talking about the show now? If I wanted to see political conversations about race and ethics, I'd go to /pol/

[Anonymous No.10748496]

>>10748495
Gulls fall for the easiest bait. Just filter the beginning post and skip past the long line of irrelevant garbage.

I will say this has made me wish I had a cosplay loving partner who could share the experience with me.

[Anonymous No.10748552]

>>10748093
>was done in caricature and not in recreation?

Where is the caricature in this? I don't the jet black paint or red lipstick.

[Anonymous No.10748702]

>>10748496
Thanks for the tip. And also, yes. My boyfriend wants to cosplay (mostly Star Wars, Marvel, etc.), but he never actually pulls the trigger on it like I do so we're stuck in "wouldn't this be cool to couple cosplay? / oh you'd look amazing as this character" hell.

[Anonymous No.10748706]

>>10728173
the series is boring, the character is boring, and she's not gyaru just because she has blonde hair.

[Anonymous No.10748727]

>>10748706
Technically she'd be kogal if anything which usually refers to girls in school who can't go full gyaru bc of school dress code. She's more just an Otaku than anything. She's also a model though.

[Anonymous No.10748730]

>>10748727
>shes an otaku and a model!!
bro she's not real. she was created specifically to cater to lonely desperate scrotes to sell them figures and merch to jerk off onto.

[Anonymous No.10748734]

>>10748730
No shit she's not real I'm just commenting on the type of person her character is prolly supposed to be based on real life examples.

Pixar characters aren't real but normies still cry over an orphaned clownfish. People find characters amd media fun and interesting to discuss, get over it.

[Anonymous No.10748745]

>>10748734
you're really that invested over some flavor of the month coombait waifu

[Anonymous No.10748746]

>>10748745
>reee stop discussing cosplay media on the cosplay board!!1

[Anonymous No.10748762]

>>10748706
gyaru here, she is gyaru. she's explicitly neo gyaru.

[Anonymous No.10748765]

>>10748762
pic related. all her outfits and her stylings plus her uninspired nails are trends in neo gyaru fashion.

[Anonymous No.10748904]

>>10748363
The contests are regulated according to the community (e.g. "normal people) though.

>>10748367
Congrats, you have owned yourself.

[Anonymous No.10748932]

>>10748904
>community (e.g. "normal people)

[Anonymous No.10748937]

>>10748904
oh so it doesn't even say black or refer to black skin. so you're extra wrong.

[Anonymous No.10749009]

>>10748937
Tell me how does it feel to be a secondary piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.10749010]

just don't reply to people that try to claim that using a tanning cream or something is racist, that's obviously bait

[Anonymous No.10749228]

>>10749010
Main character never used a tanning cream in this series though, only a black skin foundation.

>>10748552
Nowhere, yet it was condemned as blackface and banned from a major competition. That's the point, blackface is blackface even if it's done not as caricature.

[Anonymous No.10749243]

>>10748937
>>10748367
Except it's used to refer to black people. Read the manga, read the raw.

[Anonymous No.10750362]

You will never meet your Gojo.

[Anonymous No.10750365]

>>10749243
the manga doesn't say black skin.

[Anonymous No.10750508]

Why don't people with too much time on their hands contact actual Japanese companies making darkening body foundation specifically meant for cosplay instead of attacking a fictional depiction of it?

[Anonymous No.10750509]

>>10750508
it's a literal non issue.

[Anonymous No.10751023]

>>10750365
So? It still depicted black foundation and its result applied to a skin (protip, the skin was black).

[Anonymous No.10751025]

>>10751023
because using darkening products isn't racist, sorry.

[Anonymous No.10751076]

>>10751025
Except using darkening products in order to change the color of your skin is racist, and denying it is racist as well.

[Anonymous No.10751593]

>>10751025
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.10751615]

Friendly reminder that only about 20% of adults in America use twitter and that 25% of twitter accounts make 97% of the tweets. You retards are getting heated up over the opinions of an extremely vocal minority, whose opinions actually don't fucking matter in the real world.

This is literally happening on every board. A twitter screenshot with a retarded take gets posted with something like 4 likes and the thread gets 300 posts due to everyone thinking that some rando's opinion actually fucking matters and is an accurate of representation of the opinion's of sane people who touch grass. Twitter screenshot threads really need to be banned and people need to just stop using that website. Unless you're running a business or trying to groom children there is literally no reason to be using twitter

[Anonymous No.10751616]

>>10751615
stop responding to trolls

[Anonymous No.10751652]

>>10751615
i tell people all the time that twitter is not real life and no one listens

[Anonymous No.10751678]

>>10751615
Go win an international contest with blackface, I dare you.

[Anonymous No.10751836]

Western girls will never be this cute.

[Anonymous No.10751837]

>>10748765
>>10748762
Only asians girls can become cute gyarus.

[Anonymous No.10751838]

>>10746736
Gross, I wanna puke!

[Anonymous No.10751848]

>>10751837
i posted that and i am, retard.

[Anonymous No.10753701]

>>10748383
haha, you are so mean
girls are so cute