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>> No.10393821

I have never worn bloomers in a decade of wearing the fashion.

>> No.10393827

>>10393821
you're not wearing a full coord without bloomers

>> No.10393830
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10393830

I'm really starting to strongly dislike the current lolita online comm and culture but I'm kinda lonely and my local comm is a shitshow. Maybe it really is better to live in the past and fall into an endless pit of the wayback machine and google's time-specific searches.

>> No.10393838

i want to kiss mana's hands

>> No.10393846

>>10393827
Nta but why do you care about my underwear? I’ll wear bike shorts if I want to. My dresses are actually the appropriate length so who cares

>> No.10393848

>>10393830
Same. It’s either weird hugboxes where the same content is repeated ad nauseam or endless salt mines forcing me to read about what weird sex kink some dude on the Internet has. It’s hard to find actually interesting discussions

>> No.10393849

I have absolutely no desire to “contribute” to this community. I’ve tried but I really just don’t care for meetups or posting coords online.

>> No.10393858

>>10393849
Attending a meet up is not contributing anything to the community

>> No.10393873

When I see people I know wearing dresses that don't fit around their cow tits properly it makes a piece of me die for that dress since it will literally never come back from that physical stress.

>> No.10393874

>>10393849
Those are hardly contributions.. only self important lolitas consider that contributing to the community. Actual contributions are things like hosting events, sharing new information online helping noobs, creating tutorials, sharing coord and shopping tips.

>> No.10393913

>>10393830
Me too. My comm has maybe 3 acceptable lolitas and the rest are fatty chans or Walmart lolitas its horrible. I wish we could go back to 2012

>> No.10393973

>>10393821
I only wear them on winter. Try it, anon, peak comfy.

>> No.10394043

>>10393846
they care because they're an elitist and they probably have some secret fetish that involve bloomers. They're on 4chan insisting people wear undergarments after all.

>> No.10394045

>>10393913
I think the other two anons had some good reasoning. You just sound like typical cgl retard that hates fattys.

>> No.10394099

>>10393846
I've worn bike shorts when all my bloomers were in the laundry, but I found them to be less helpful. The bloomers keep the layers of my petti from getting stuck between my legs. Bike shorts are skin tight and don't help with that.

>> No.10394110

>>10393849
I think you mean "participate" but yeah I agree. I don't understand the intense need everyone has to post everything online.

>> No.10394112

>>10393913
How does being fat make them "unacceptable" other than you're prejudiced against fatties

>> No.10394114

>>10394112
because on cgl it's cool to hate fattys

>> No.10394116

>>10394112
I wish I could send that post to 8-years-ago-cgl.

>> No.10394117

>>10394112
Nayrt but throwing away your health to be lazy should not be acceptable

>> No.10394122

>>10394116
why? it wouldn't have changed their stubborn opinion.

>>10394117
Not everyone who is fat is in bad health. There are fat people who compete in the olympics.

>> No.10394131

>>10394122
They'd get a taste of the future and maybe try to prevent it.

>> No.10394134

>>10394117
That has nothing to do with being a good lolita or not tho

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>>10394131
No because they're stubborn, anon.
Just look at pic related. They still say this shit even though everyone knows it's fucking over played. You can tell them not to do something and that just makes them want to do it more.
If anything, all it does is fuel their fatty hate.

>> No.10394163

>>10394146
I wasn't talking in favor of fat acceptance. And why tf are you talking in 3rd person, you are on cgl, you are part of it. "Sorry you got posted" just kind of changed the meaning to using it for people who seem overly personally invested/attacked but it's still accurate most of the time.

>> No.10394169

>>10394099
That is an oddly specific problem that I have never had an issue with but noted? Still don’t see why it would be “not a real coord”

>> No.10394190

>>10394169
Oh it doesn't really affect anything you can see, it's just a comfort thing for me. Not going to complain if someone doesn't wear bloomers, just trying to be helpful in case other people's thighs also eat their pettis.

>> No.10394223

>>10394163
>I wasn't talking in favor of fat acceptance
then what was >>10394131 trying to prevent exactly because that is what the chain of replies led to?

>> No.10394226

>>10394163
>"Sorry you got posted" just kind of changed the meaning to using it for people who seem overly personally invested/attacked but it's still accurate most of the time.
It's not accurate at all, just because you're getting replies about something doesn't mean someone is personally invested.

>> No.10394258

I gave up in finding a comm after I looked at a Canada specific chat and realized the chat was run by a 17 year old tranny and the most active member was a lady with a shaved head.

>> No.10394261

Come on were like three confessions into the thread and y'all are ALREADY arguing about fatties? Jesus fucking Christ get a life

>> No.10394264

>>10394261
They're obsessed with fatties is the thing.

>> No.10394266

>>10393827
>yOu'Re NoT wEaRiNg A fUlL cOoRd WiThOuT bLoOmErS

Are you the sissy at the meetups always trying to look up everyone's skirt hmmmm???
I'd get disappointed to if I stick my head up someone's petticoat and see that they are wearing sport shorts instead of le authentic bloomers

>> No.10394270

>>10394266
If I stuck my head up some girls skirt I wouldn't be disappointed unless there was a penis for some reason.

>> No.10394280

I used to be one of those elitist insisting that fat people can't wear lolita, you can't alter brand, blah blah itas need to stop blah. But really I don't care anymore. It's clothes it's just clothing and if you can by a shirt and cut it into a crop top and wear it despite being overweight. Than you can take a angelic pretty jsk and add panels to the side so it fits you. It's your dress in the end and sure your lessening the value but who cares if it's not worth 500$ anymore if its worth something to the one who wears it that's all that matters.

And people telling itas to stop instead of encouraging them to get better is what's killing the community truthfully. If my first coord was posted to the ita thread, than my second and third and even when I got better than I would have quit. I'm glad I joined in a time before that. Anyone trying to join now, unless they have help and know 100% what they are doing will get immediately bashed. Hell even if they know what they are doing if your new. Your just meat for the seagulls to chew. Idk where I'm going with this I just wanted to get that out of my head

I genuinely don't want lolita to die, I want the joy to come back and I guess I'd prefer the overly accepting community over a salt mine rigged with explosives at this point

>> No.10394287

>>10394280
>I'd prefer the overly accepting community over a salt mine rigged with explosives at this point
Me too and I'm glad my local comm is super inclusive and there aren't secret salty cunts looking to start someone new's demise as soon as there's new prey around.

But I also remember that a lot of cgl is just larping and even the ones who aren't are still just coming here to troll and take shit out on people.

>> No.10394294

>>10394280
I thought the general rule of thumb to newbies is to never visit cgl in the first place

>> No.10394301

>>10394294
I wish I could say that it's only on cgl but it's spread to nearly every part of the community. And I don't know about you but when someone says not to go someone the first thing I'm going to do is go there

>> No.10394303

>>10394294
I basically got into lolita after coming to cgl and nothing here deterred me but I also didn't really take the advice given here cause I was already familiar with the types that post on 4chan in general and lets be real, the attitude on cgl isn't that different from the attitude on ck or other boards.

However, I have seen some say that they came here as newbs and were better for it because it toughened their skin or they just actually listened to the advice here.
I'm not a big fan of those girls but if that works, then fine whatever.

But I think that's a good rule for those who aren't familiar with this site. Like if it's a newbie on fb or discord, they should stay there. There's nothing of value for them here.

>> No.10394330

>>10394280
>>10394287
I don't understand what people like you do here. If you hate it so much, why wouldn't you just go back to facebook or wherever you came from? Why are you lurking and posting in a place while continuously bitching about it and its users as if you aren't part of it? Why whine about ebil x-phobic larper seagulls for 5+ different threads when you could just go somewhere more comfortable for you?

>> No.10394334

>>10394330
Huh? This is a confessions thread I'm here to confess. I have no issue with this board I'm more talking about the ita threads, the Facebook tag groups and even drama that acors outside of the internet.
You missed my point by a mile but I guess this is the (you) you wanted

>> No.10394336

>>10394330
I mean, how much of 4chan have you been on?
There is a lot more to the people on this site than just being an asshole.
Like yes, there is a lot of that, but there are also people like me here. I met one of my roommates on this site and he's nothing like the alt right retards that usually post.
You have to remember that some types of posters are louder than others. The ones who have the most obnoxious opinions are the ones who post the most because they want to spam their bullshit and get (you)'s.

I have a lot of fun on /ck/ for example. There's fat hate there too but there's also fat acceptance. As opposed to /cgl/ where the fat hate opinion dominates and it gets tiresome. It's better when there is a balance of opinions as opposed to a bunch of anons just shouting the same shit over and over.
That's what really sucks about this board - shit gets shouted down and then it becomes an echochamber of cgl tier memes. This happens on other boards to but not the extent it does here because some anons here really do take it too far.

I've also met nice anons here and had good discussions on this board which is why I keep coming back.
It's not really my fault that other people troll and shit up threads. I just respond accordingly and keep on rolling.
Just because someone is complaining about some of the people on a board doesn't mean they're not comfy.

I much prefer this shit to same fucking horse shit on FB where girls in my comm are all resharing the same animal crossing meme or talking about COVID shit nonstop.

>> No.10394385

>>10394266
I was once at a meet where a girl fell flat on her ass. She wasn’t wearing bloomers but instead a pair of shorts. When she fell, she basically flashed us, shorts are not enough to protect you. Sorry you don’t care enough about the fashion to wear a complete coord.

>> No.10394463

>>10394385
>she basically flashed us
>shorts are not enough to protect you
What kind of shorts do you mean? Not sure where you're from but where I'm from, girls wear shorts regularly and it's not considered flashing..
Did you actually see vag or something?

>> No.10394466

>>10394385
I literally work out in the shorts I wear, so unless you are implying I flash everyone constantly when I work out then idk what to say. Stop being creepy about people’s underwear

>> No.10394481

>>10394466
I feel like they're ESL and they mean panties or something. I could see what they mean if the girl was wearing a thong or something.
I know in some parts of England they call undies "pants". So I assume it's something like that.

>> No.10394487 [DELETED] 

>>10394266
Nta but have people who say this never been to a picnic meet where people sit on blankets on the ground? Because my comm has one every summer and every summer I‘ve gotten an unwanted eyefull of someone’s sweaty underwear. I don’t care what people do or don’t wear the rest of the year but if you’re going to be sitting across from someone on the floor, please wear shorts or bloomers.

>> No.10394499

>>10393830
I feel this with both the online and local comm. There are a handful of local lolitas I get on with but we’re not really close enough to get together outside of a meet-up context. Of course I can wear the fashion without a community but I miss having like-minded people to casually hang out with.

>> No.10394587

Itas are based. Lolita should be about not caring what others think

>> No.10394590

>>10394481
I know a foreign ESL guy who thought underwear was called pants, so that’s possible

>> No.10394591

>>10394587
hard agree

>> No.10394597

>>10394481
No, I'm not ESL and I'm talking about shorts, not underwear.

>> No.10394602

>>10394597
Then please explain how you were "flashed".

>> No.10394603

I like the soccer event we had a while back and the winter ball we used to have, but with the current state of /cgl/ and 4chan moderation cracking down hard on crossboard events, I don't think either will happen any time soon. As a board, we don't deserve nice things.

>> No.10394724

>>10394597
I really want to understand why athletic shorts offend you. Do the olympics straight freak you out?

>> No.10394788

>>10393873
Whenever I stretch brand around my huge cow tits I laugh because I know some poorfag is crying about it

>> No.10394791

>>10394788
Poorfags are way more likely to be fat and vice versa. If you’re so wealthy, why can’t you afford proper exercise and nutrition?

>> No.10394794

I sometimes derail the ita thread on purpose when I'm bored, it's so fucking easy to bait gulls

>> No.10394795

>>10394788
But that could have been MINE

>> No.10394798

>>10394791
>afford proper exercise
What in the actual fuck.
Exercise is free dumb ass. If you're stupid enough to pay for it, you're getting scammed.

>> No.10394800

>>10394788
How big are you though? I'm pretty big and have what cgl considers cowtits but I'm not by any means an actual landwhale.
I was posted to the ita thread like a million years ago and someone said I was stretching the shirring out - but my dresses are all holding up really well and the elastic in them is fine? like they always bounce back into place when I take off the dress.
I never understood the "ree ur stretching it!!" meme.

>> No.10394801

>>10394794
I derail most threads that are lolita related cause most people here are just larpers anyway.

>> No.10394809

I like being a lolita with big boobs. big breasts > flat chests

>> No.10394818

>>10394809
This is either a larp, if you're being serious explain yourself. I can't imagine wanting to wear a fashion when having breasts that are 92~ are a detriment.

>> No.10394823

>>10394818
It's a cope.

>> No.10394829

>>10394798
Don’t be an idiot. It’s an established fact that poverty correlates with obesity. Who knows exactly why. I personally think it’s because poor people are stupid, but it’s nicer to say that they can’t afford healthy food, gym memberships or the time and energy to think about those things.

>> No.10394837

>>10394829
Expensive health food is a hell of a lot tastier than cheap health food. Compare a fresh $16 hipster kebab to a Wendy's 4-for-$4 meal or a Healthy Choice frozen dinner. Those rich-people restaraunts and grocery stores don't even exist in poor neighborhoods. I have to drive 30mins to Whole Foods after moving out of my parents' rich neighborhood just so I can get a fruit that doesn't have the taste or texture of a doorstopper. Plus, my budget neighborhood doesn't even have fucking sidewalks, much less aereal fitness. I stay fit because I remember how life used to be, but I won't lie it's a struggle. I can imagine why poorer people get obese.

>> No.10394852

>>10394829
>Who knows exactly why. I personally think it’s because poor people are stupid

Maybe use some of your smartass critical thinking anon. What is access to healthy food and time to prepare it.

>> No.10394857

>>10394829
I'm not an idiot. Anyone can work out from home.
I'm not even a fucking fit advocate but if someone doesn't work out at home for free, its because they're lazy. Has nothing to do with how wealthy they are.
Gyms are fucking proven scams. Go try cancelling a gym membership. Good luck getting it done with out a lawyer.

>> No.10394894

>>10394791
Because I like being fat. Sorry I have money and you don't.
>>10394800
I am very much a landwhale. It's fun to watch people get mad when you wear their precious burando
>>10394794
Also this

>> No.10394899

>>10394226
> just because you're getting replies about something doesn't mean someone is personally invested.
On this board it kind of does, people don't usually respond positively or bother defending things because it's just not worth the time and isn't why most people come here.

>> No.10394900

>>10394894
I wish more anons were like you.

I'll be over here stretching out a dream dress of some gull as they cry themselves to sleep.

>> No.10394903

>>10394899
It takes no effort and very little time to post here.
I think you just want to believe that people are personally invested.

>> No.10394906

>>10394857
To be entirely fair, you can technically work out at home but not well. I am an athletic trainer and do work out at home, but buying all the equipment a gym has is insanely expensive and sometimes impossible (like pools). Working out at home is a legit option if you are broke or do t have time to go to the gym or if it’s a pandemic (oops), but there are very real reasons people go to gyms.

Now SOME gyms like Planet Fitness use a scammy model, but not all gyms. YMCAs, local rec centers, country clubs, more posh gyms, and mid priced mom and pop gyms all run just fine without forcing patrons to sign away their life. Cancelling a gym membership is quite easy when your gym isn’t shit.

>> No.10394910

>>10394829
It's proven that cheap fast food is calorie dense. The salt and fats contribute to the tastiness and also cause a ton of fluid retention. This isn't to say they can't do body weight exercises or buy a set of dumbbells for less than $100 at home but now you know.

>> No.10394914

>>10394602
daisy dukes or v loose pj shorts?

>> No.10394919

>>10394906
You can work out at home just fine without equipment. If you're really a trainer you'd know this.

>can't work out well
You can do it to lose weight. Many have.

>> No.10394929

>>10394910
You don't even need dumbbells. I've lost weight doing simple CICO and calisthenics.

>> No.10394930

>>10394919
Not everyone exercises to lose weight. Free weights and body weight exercises are great but having access to a large variety of equipment has value, particularly when you live in cold climates and cardio requires going outside. Maybe “we’ll” wasn’t the right word, but declaring gyms to be a useless scam is dumb too. I don’t even have the space to put a bench in my apartment let alone the budget to buy a full quality set of weights and a treadmill.

>> No.10394933

>>10394930
>Not everyone exercises to lose weight
Holy fucking shit anon. I KNOW.
What the hell does that have to do with fitting into lolita??

Exercising to lose weight makes sense to fit into lolita. Which is what I was originally talking about. Take your health shit elsewhere.

>> No.10394935

I found a chiffon bolero with an unusually high collar that I wear under my jsk like some shift-blouse in the summer.

>> No.10394936

>>10394933
Sorry, I was just replying to the gyms are a scam comment. I highly recommend *you* go take a walk and calm down a bit. It’s not that important, and honestly? Getting that upset about other people’s weight won’t make you thinner or whatever you are stressed about either. Just breathe my dude.

>> No.10394940

>>10394935
Smart. I like it.

>> No.10394943

Sometimes I reply once or twice to an anon with a crazy temper like >>10394933 just to watch them absolutely lose it over a single comment. Makes me feel better about myself.

>> No.10394945

>>10394936
Dude I'm only getting pissed because you're going off topic. It's already somewhat off topic to talk about weight loss here in general but at least that could be related to lolita.
You're not even trying.

>> No.10394947

>>10394943
Same except that's me and I'm not actually upset. It's fun to play with people's minds isn't it?

>> No.10394948

>>10394945
If it was a problem, just sage or even report. Starting a pissing contest does nothing. Getting that worked up derails the thread way more and opens up shit like >>10394943.

>> No.10394950

>>10394947
Damn well nice job larping. Hope we get to team up sometime because

Jesus CHRIST when will corona summer END?!

>> No.10394951

>>10394948
You're not supposed to announce reports anon...

>> No.10394953

>>10394950
I'm not larping. I have a full wardrobe. You can be a lolita and still troll on here.

>> No.10394955

>>10394951
I’m not announcing reports dummy I am telling them that is an option over replying to what they’re believe to be off topic posts.

>> No.10394958

>>10394953
I meant larping being angry, not larping being a lolita.

>> No.10394961

>>10394953
You are a very literal person, aren’t you?

>> No.10394963

>>10394958
That's not larping. It's more like pretending but it wasn't even that. I just put emphasis and curse words in my post and it triggered some other bitches lol

>> No.10394966

>>10394961
No because I realize you can't actually live action role play on an image board my dude.
If I took things literally I wouldn't be using the term larping on here.

>> No.10394968

>>10394963
>That's not larping. It's more like pretending
I... what did you think the word larp meant all this time?

>> No.10394969

>>10394966
Anon please stop replying you sound more and more idiotic with every post

>> No.10394976

>>10394852
Nah I know plenty of poor people and they’re mostly stupid. They think sugar-laden granola, diet soda, and processed af foods that say “natural” on them are health foods. They think eating a whole pizza after you work out is fine because they have no idea that workouts burn only around 300 calories and pizzas are 1500 calories. they think they only way to lose weight is to buy nutrisystem food and whatever other bs they’ve been sold by big business marketing. They’re stupid and gullible, that’s why they’re fat

>> No.10394980

>>10394976
Also food deserts, but hey who’s counting

>> No.10394991

>>10394823
>It's a cope

Lmao you got me. I'll tell the truth, I hate them and think/know they make me look like shit, but I like being positive by lying to myself until someone points it out that I'm not serious, and then I just get sad again.

>> No.10394997

>>10394900
>as they cry themselves to sleep.
do you really think this happens?

>> No.10394999

>>10394943
We notice and it's cringy af. You just seem new and not like an epic trolle.

>> No.10395007

>>10394935
I wear chiffon boleros and the cutsew material ones under jsks that they work with. means I can save on blouses.

>> No.10395025

>>10394991
I kinda feel this on a personal level.

I'm naturally busty and used to be so desperate, I actually considered getting a breast reduction done at some point but then I finally figured that it's not worth it because I still do find items that fit me.
Before that I used to starve myself for months, hoping for my boobs to shrink naturally, and as exepcted it only worked so much that I'm stuck at around 93cm, which is still huge by lolita standards.
Having a large bust measurement when you're not even fat just sucks, anachans will still group you in with the fatties over a 93cm bust when your waist is a solid 70cm.

>> No.10395031

>>10394976
Yeah but rich people can be just as stupid and experience fewer consequences. They can eat random shit that's in the area and it will be on average healthier than whatever is sold in the poor person's neighborhood.

>> No.10395035

>>10394999
I wasn’t trying to be subtle. If I wanted the adoration of people I wouldn’t be on an anonymous ikea forum. I’m aware it’s petty and dumb. I just think when people spaz out is funny. And per their response, it usually works.

>> No.10395040

>>10395025
My waist is 70cm and I feel like a whale desu. I have some old school pieces I'm too scared to try on because I was around 67 cm when I last wore them and even then they just fit.

>> No.10395043

>>10395040
Unironically you should keep an eye on that feeling.
>inb4 shut up fatty not everything is an ED
Listen, I’m just saying it’s a sign and they should keep checking in to see how they are feeling about something as small as gaining 3 cm

>> No.10395047

>>10395040
Nayrt but oldschool items just run very small, don't beat yourself up over it! I think 70 cm is a good average that fits most of the modern brand pieces, some might even be too loose on you

>> No.10395050

>>10394800
I'm referring to dresses that don't have enough shirring and thus the actual fabric gets stretched out and can suffer from it. I've seen dressed where the fabric was stretched on the bias and this had perminent wrinkles in the wrong spots, dresses where the stitching is almost being pulled out, and other forms of stress damage. I purchased a dress that was stretched out like that and only fully realized when it arrived to me and was all fucked and unwearable. Generally when dresses have enough shirring it does bounce back and stay undamaged like you described.

>> No.10395065

>>10394829
>Who knows exactly why
food deserts, anons. can you all please read like NPR sometime. it will help with you all farting words out of your arses
>cooking food at home
not a lot of Americans cook and prepare food at home anymore. When I was on a strict diet I had to do this every day, and it was TOUGH.
>>10394980
whoa someone who actually reads and thinks critically on my internets, amazing

>> No.10395066

>>10395043
Thank you for the advice, I do see where you are coming from and didn't take it negatively.

I'm trying to keep an eye on it too, and my mom tried to tell me encouraging words when I brought my concerns up to her.

My sister suffered from an eating disorder for many years and it does such a number on you. Mentally and health-wise, and it doesn't just affect your health short term.

It's just so difficult to accept since I was 65cm for the longest time. I'm not an unhealthy weight and as >>10395047 mentioned I fit into brand well and a few modern pieces do fit a bit big.

When I stopped going to school I went to 67cm and thought it was normal since I wasn't exercising, and now I'm 70cm and just feel awful you know?

I started exercising daily for 30 minutes and plan on increasing this gradually. I'm trying to be healthy when I lost weight and not go the "easy" route.

>> No.10395070

>>10394997
That's literally how this exchange started.

>> No.10395071

>>10394587
Kind of agree. That's originally how it was. Original lolitas looked ugly and messy af

>> No.10395072

>>10394900
I try to be what I want to see in the community. Wear your clothes and make them mad. You paid for it.

>> No.10395076

>>10395065
I’m ayrt. Look into who funded those food desert studies. Supermarket chains, in several cases. They’re making the claim that people need their businesses to live.

I make middle class money now, but after I graduated college I lived in section 8 housing while making minimum wage in a white collar job and shopped almost exclusively at Dollar Tree to save money. They have frozen and canned fruits and veg, frozen fish and meat, rice, eggs, pretty much everything you need to eat a healthy diet on a nonexistent budget. So I saved enough to get a higher degree, travel for interviews, etc., got a better job and now I can shop at the fancy farmers market. Anon who said she’d drive 30 min just to shop at Whole Foods (as if anyone could tell a Whole Foods cucumber from a 99 Cent Plus cucumber blindfolded) while living in a poor neighborhood is pretty depressing, but I guess it’s the same mindset that would lead someone to spend all their money on pretty clothes they can’t afford.

>> No.10395077

>>10395065
Food deserts are debunked and have been for years, why don't you do your own research fucktard?
https://news.uchicago.edu/story/food-deserts-not-blame-growing-nutrition-gap-between-rich-and-poor-study-finds
https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/02/food-deserts-and-fresh-food-access-arent-the-problem-poverty-not-obesity-makes-people-sick.html

>> No.10395104

>>10395065
It’s bull crap. I am relatively well off and I go to the same Safeway in my town that the poor people do and I eat healthy because I don’t buy the pre-processed crap. I see their carts and what’s in them is very unhealthy. You don’t have to shop at Whole Foods to be healthy, the Food Lion in a bad neighborhood has the same basic staples as any other store.

>> No.10395112

>>10395104
>>10395077
this. i've found a lot of the stores in poor areas to sometimes have more produce due to different demographics.

>> No.10395113

>>10394829
>I personally think it’s because poor people are stupid
this, even though it's not entirely their fault.

>> No.10395116

>>10395104
Are food lions still around??

>> No.10395119

>>10394997
Have you seen some of the posts from Rufflechat and other groups? There are totally crazy immature bitches out there who shed tears because someone is stretching the shirring out on something they want but can't have.
Now on here? Probably not.

>> No.10395120

>>10394976
>my experience represents all poor people
If they have money to buy soda and time to work out, they aren't poor.

>> No.10395121

>>10394968
I fucking spelled it out, dumby.
It fucking stands for Live Action Role Play.
There are even threads here for it sometimes.
Stop trolling, you suck at it.

>> No.10395122

>>10395120
>what are food stamps

>> No.10395170

>>10393838
i want to suck manas big toe

>> No.10395175

>>10395120
No Americans are really poor if you wanna go that deep.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonishing-numbers-americas-poor-still-live-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/#207cea3a54ef

>> No.10395192

>>10395175
you would also have to be retarded to buy burgers daily over 10cent a bowl rice with whatever cheap ground or canned meat that you can find. The less meat and rice you eat the cheaper.

>> No.10395247

>>10394894
Yes queen let’s meet up and stretch that shit out together
Hope my cow tits ruin their ap

>> No.10395255

How do y’all find the “meanie” tag groups
I’m tryna be part of that shit

>> No.10395259

>>10395247
It's your own AP you're ruining but go off I guess.

>> No.10395263

>>10395247
Do you wanna twin? What's your dream dress?
>>10395259
Yup! Totally ruined! Glad I can just buy another one and do it all over again~

>> No.10395265

>>10395255
Add Miso Salty on facebook?

>> No.10395266

>>10395263
You know you wouldn't have to buy a second one if you just lost weight and actually bought clothes that fit you. Or you could buy two from the begining and make them into one that fit you and then again, you wouldn't have to ruin any at all. Are all Americans this stupid?

>> No.10395267

>>10395263
This attitude makes me smile, knowing that your happy doing what you love and some random gull is absolutely fuming in their chair being miserable. Keep it up I'm rooting for you lol

>> No.10395274

I love to have sex while wearing lolita. I just feel so gorgeous, feminine and queenlike wearing it.

>> No.10395275

>>10395263
Girl yes, I really want milky chan the fawn appliqué. Can’t wait to get these meaty fists on it

>> No.10395276

>>10395259
And it doesn’t matter bc guess what: I own it >>10395266

>> No.10395277

>>10395266
Calm down cunt we’re having fun

>> No.10395279

>>10395247
>>10395263
what if we triplet??
I already most of my dream dresses

>> No.10395280

>>10395267
Me too!
For the longest time I thought I was just super different from everyone on cgl but it's so great to see other anons who don't give a single fuck about how it looks when they wear brand because it makes them happy dammit.

>> No.10395281

>>10395279
Omg yes
I still haven’t found my dream dress yet
I’m always too damn slow!

>> No.10395282

>>10395280
Ok I’m on the smaller end of plus size but have still gotten shit and I love seeing and hearing about other bigger and quality sized girls just thriving in their brand
I personally am a fucking poorfag and don’t own much brand but YES this makes me so happy

>> No.10395284

>>10395279
>>10395280
>>10395281
>>10395282
Samefag

>> No.10395287

>>10395284
>>>10395279 (You)
>>>10395280 (You)
only those are me.

>>10395282
I'm on the smaller side of plus size too. I'm not even close to 200 lbs but I'm not 95 lbs so most of cgl considers me a fat cow.
I'm definitely big enough for the dresses to be a bit snug but I think they still look good on me.

I used to not be a poor fag until covid shit happened so I bought all my dresses back when I had the money for it. I'm just sad cause I can't keep adding items to my wardrobe now but I'm glad I have what I do.

>>10395281
Are you the Milky Fawn chan from up thread? I don't have that one but I do love it.

>> No.10395294

>>10395287
Poor fag here again
Yes I’ll be honest I mostly have taobao but just recently got a brand dress and it was super awesome and exciting
I’m about 170 lb and my bust is almost always the issue
Quite hefty cow titties sadly
If you dress good you dress good. No matter the weight

Yeah I’m in college so I’m not rlly a poor fag just a

Can’t work as many hours as I want fag

>> No.10395297

>>10395287
Yes I’m the milkychan anon LOLOL
If I get it I may alter it a little bit
Either way hoping to make some girls mad over it

>> No.10395301

>>10395274
The built in petti scratches my ass while i ride no thx

>> No.10395303

>>10395301
Gotta make a coochie hole in ur bloomers obviously dumbass

>> No.10395304

>>10395294
I have a couple of taobao dresses too.
That's super exciting that you got a brand dress!
I hover around 175 to 180. Normies feel like my breasts are average but I think by cgl standards I have cow titties just because they're in proportion to me being larger.

Don't worry, some day we'll both be able to buy to our hearts content again!

>> No.10395305

>>10395297
haha yeah I'd have to get it altered too

>> No.10395306

>>10395304
My chest is absolutely the biggest part of me I won’t deny that they’re quite massive :(
And yes oh my goodness it was so exciting to get my first brand piece
Still love my taobao stuff though

Can’t wait to start buying again!

>> No.10395310

>>10395305
Altering is great desu
If you can pay for ap you can pay to get it altered right
End of story!

>> No.10395312

>>10395306
aww see, this is why I keep coming back to cgl. Anons like you!

>>10395310
Yup! I've had several of my dresses altered before the shitstorm happened.

>> No.10395315

>>10395312
Oddly heartwarming
Wholesome convo in the cgl thread

>> No.10395318

>>10395315
It's wild right? All the negative interactions make the wholesome ones all the more worthwhile.

>> No.10395326

>>10395318
agreed desu
I wanna follow you on Instagram but feel like you won’t wanna post ur Ig here Damn

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>>10395297
You should alter it, it's better for the longevity of the dress and better for you in terms of fit. If any anons get mad about you taking something and making it fit your body properly they got their own problems. Milky Chan is cute gull, someday I'd like to own one too, I got my eye on other things atm tho.

>> No.10395336

>>10395326
Do you have discord?
I changed my handle on there recently so I don't mind posting that.
If not I also have a throw away email!

>> No.10395337

>>10395336
I do have discord! But email works too
Whichever ur most comfy with

>> No.10395341

>>10395337
cubedsteaks#7852

>> No.10395342

>unironic yasssss queen slays and endless coping planets telling themselves everyone will be so mad about them looking hilarious in frankensteined dresses
Ok, who linked us on facebook?

>> No.10395343

>>10395341
Added! Taki rat is me

>> No.10395347

>>10395342
Its covid summer and it's shitting up the whole board.

>> No.10395350

I want to get into Lolita but this board makes me believe I just have the wrong body for it cause of my tits. I’m a 30E cup but my waist is 66cms so wearing anything tight or high waisted makes me look like some cam girl doing a DDLG shoot instead of Lolita

>> No.10395356

>>10395350
WHO CARES
DO IT
Fuck what others think

>> No.10395359

>>10395350
Depends kind of what your chest measurements are since some brand stuff especially isn't known for being forgiving towards people with a bigger chest. Look into stuff with shirring or custom-made blouses. Follow your dreams, anon!

>> No.10395387

>>10395342
I've been lurking cgl for years. Don't be mad I spoke against your dumbass opinion and people agreed. Fat lolitas are taking over and you can stay mad about that bby~

>> No.10395388

>>10395387
And yet you still type like a raging underage newfag.
>Fat lolitas are taking over and you can stay mad about that bby
Absolute cringe. Please go on, we didn't have proper clowns on here for a while.

>> No.10395411

>>10395350
Nah, just go for it. Embrace the tiny waist, go for the better brands and get those skirts. You could probably even find stuff for cheap since you have a small waist. Even high waisted stuff doesnt need to be all boob when done well, but use good bras too.

>> No.10395416

I only go to meets because I don't have any friends nearby

>> No.10395417

>>10393830
join the discord

>> No.10395418

>>10395417
Lol don't, the lolitas there talk shit but they're ita. Especially the admin.

>> No.10395420

>>10395350
My measurements are about the same and I exclusively wear brand. I fit comfortably in my dresses and, to be narcissistic for a minute, think I look adorable in lolita. I'd give it a try if I were you, I'm glad I did.

>> No.10395422

>>10395418
Which server are we talking about? The vetted one? Not that I'm disagreeing at all if it is.

>> No.10395428

>>10395255
forget mana, I'm telling tyler willis

it's full of itas who think they're hot shit

>> No.10395450

>>10395350
I have the same cup volume as you and am only a couple of CMs larger in the waist, and high waisted stuff is cute on me. But I don't wear sweet, so maybe that's influencing your perception of the fit as well?

>> No.10395481

>>10395350
I’m not exactly thin, but my bust is somewhere around 100 cm and I don’t think I look bad in lolita at all as long as stuff fits. I wouldn’t worry about it.

>> No.10395496

>>10395422
It's the vetted server that was promoted on FB groups. I could have misspoken and it may have been a mod, but I'm not going back to check lol.

On the other hand does anyone have deets on the suteki server? I've seen the IG hashtag. Their members are better dressed and more established but is it just a efame server?

>> No.10395502

> rare ass collectors novelty on sale
> there're some comments from people willing to buy
> OKAY. Do it right, anon, let them have the thing
> item stays on sale so long I could totally mail my ss
> the thing goes sold out

I regret a bit. Chnces are my ss could snatch it.

>> No.10395510

>>10395342
It's obviously same fag, they all type the same way and posted within a minute of each other in the middle of the night in the US.

>> No.10395531

>>10395121
You are without a doubt the dumbest person in this thread and that’s saying something.

>> No.10395537

>Confession:
I got fat. Like, 20lbs fat. Now everything fits werid. JSKs that were alittle baggy now fit right, dresses that fit perfectly now are too small. None of my blouses fit. It crept up during a time where I couldn't wear Lolita regularly at all. My daily wear is cozy core oversized, so I didn't catch on... Now instead of being an easy 5lbs off I have this mountain to climb to get back into my brand...

... Sucks, man. And the worse part? I'm surrounded by asspats that wont support my intentions to lose weight. Everyone's trying to assure me I should feel great. My BMI is over 30 now. My waist is over 30 inches. And everyone's trying to discourage me from going back to being 5'3" and 125lb.

>> No.10395556

>>10395537
20lbs is nothing anon, don't let them discourage you.

>> No.10395560

>>10395537
you can lose that much in less than a year, anon, and if you put it on fairly quickly a good chunk of it is probably water retention. just fuck'em do it anyway. i'm your height, fatter than you, and people are STILL telling me i don't need to lose weight.

>> No.10395562

>>10395502
Maybe I don't understand the context, but you wouldn't have gotten the item.

Some sellers require a comment before purchasing. The listing most likely sold to the first commenter if the seller approved of their feedback rating. Japanese sellers will re-list items if people bypass their process and buy the listing without following their "profile rules."

>> No.10395564

>>10395537
Don't listen to them and their fatlogic. Being fat doesn't feel great, they're just in denial. They just want you to be miserable like them so they feel better about themselves.

>> No.10395565

>>10395537
Anon especially with a high BMI the first 10-30 are the easiest to loose, you will probably get them off way faster than you think if you change your eating habits and/or physical activities. Don't let them discourage you, a lot of people are saying stuff like that subconsciously because they are uncomfortable with people around them changing for the better. You can do it and other than being able to wear more lolita, you will also feel much better on several aspects.

>> No.10395578

>>10395562
The seller didn't requested to comment first, but people did (there were two of them).

>> No.10395594

>>10395388
I love watching you get angry, it's so cute.

>> No.10395597

>>10395578
Hmm. It seems odd people would comment then.

The only time my SS was comfortable with snagging something that already had comments is because the people were just asking for a price reduction. I had my SS buy it at the listing price and the seller had no problem.

>> No.10395602

How do fat people fit into brand? Genuine question: I’m 92cm waist, 98 cm bust and weigh 130, bought a brand dress and couldn’t fit into it well... how do they do it??

>> No.10395605

>>10395602
92cm = 36in which is kind of huge.I'm probably dumb, but 130 lbs sounds like a lie for that measurement unless you are very short.

>> No.10395607

>>10395605
my body’s pretty badly out of proportion, I’m 4’11, and all my fat only ever goes into my stomach and neck. Trying to lose weight but the stupid pregnant belly doesn’t go away.

>> No.10395609

>>10395602
Wear a minimizer bra, try Spanx, only buy jsks or op's fully shirred in the back.

I have a 92 cm bust 78 cm waist and a find a lot of dresses less than comfortable even though I'm well within the measurements. A lot of the fatter lolitas must take a long time squeezing into these dresses and must be constantly uncomfortable. I spend a lot of time thinking about how wonderful it would be to be a petite woman who weighs 120 and the ease of wearing lolita at that size.

Also, for jsks, if you're close to fully stretching out the shirring panel it's easier to slip the dress on over your head zipped up.

>> No.10395611

>>10395609
120 lb, sorry I'm mixing imperial and metric in one post.

>> No.10395612

>>10395607
The reason I was skeptical is because I'm also 130 lbs. I used to be underweight, but recently became a "normal" weight.
I'm 5'6'.' My waist is 26 inches, my bust is 32, and my actual rib-cage is like 28 inches. I guess it all comes down to what your frame is like?

>> No.10395618

>>10395612
I do have a rectangular frame but somethings just wrong with my stomach, I get bloated easily, and doctors don’t really tell me anything other than lose weight.
I want to wear pretty dresses, don’t care if I look ita being fat but I don’t know how they can fit it?

>> No.10395626

>>10395597
> the people were just asking for a price reduction
first person was asking to combine few items in one lot so they could buy all together and another one said they're buying it as is and has applied already, so probs I had no chance anyways.

>> No.10395627

>>10395350
30E isn't a plus sized bust size. Thats like 34-35in bust. I'm the same size as you, and live for sack dresses. In fact they're super flattering if you're above 5'2. Also, for jfashion standards 66cm isn't really a small waist measurement.

You should join without the "adult baby" mentality.

>>10395612
Are you sure you're 130lb? Or are you super pear shaped. Because I'm the same height with similar measurements and I'm 115

>>10395602
They wear sweet brands and stuff themselves into it. It doesn't fit them either.

>> No.10395632

>>10395627
I'm very pear-shaped. My hips/butt are around 37 inches. I guess my more accurate weight is 128, but I round up.

I used to be 110~115 lbs for years. I mostly gained weight around my bottom half. I have pretty big thighs.

>>10395618
I actually used to hate my body before lolita. In America, everyone was about having big boobs and I never had that. When I found jfashion I was so happy because it finally felt like my body was meant to fit into something.

>> No.10395650

>>10395605
I'm pretty sure they mean kg, not lbs.

>> No.10395653

>>10395650
130kg = 286lbs.
They said they were 4'11''. I feel like they would be dead at that weight and height.

>> No.10395679

>>10394724
NTAYR I think they are taking of loose leg shorts and not tight leg shorts. Which would make it very possible to flash when wearing

>> No.10395699

>>10395650
>>10395653
OP, yeah, it’s 130lbs. Used to weigh 145, the most I’ve ever weighed. Wished I could’ve gotten into the fashion sooner when I was younger when I was at a normal weight.

>> No.10395706

>>10395609
When I gained some weight a few years ago, lolita got really uncomfortable. I wasn't even at the max measurements. I feel for fatty-chans.

>> No.10395707

>>10395618
This happens to me too, the getting bloated easily. I've been feeling a lot better since staying at home and eating mainly home cooked food. So I wonder if it was something about snacks or other food I was eating in the work cafeteria.

>> No.10395716

>>10395618
I'm thin everywhere but my stomach is distended (I mean it looks like I'm 6 months pregnant) if I eat or drink anything other than water. I got diagnosed with IBS but something still seems off. I had my doctor check to see if it is fibroids but nope. I can't wear most brand skirts and it makes me sad

>> No.10395774

>>10395496
Afaik suteki is for efamous lolitas with neutral or positive reputations. An efamous lolita in my comm is in it, and she's pretty removed from drama, so I'm assuming that's the standard.

>> No.10395793

>>10395774
Do they just send invites to random popular well liked lolitas via DMs? I've never heard of this server before now.

>> No.10395817

>>10395679
But even then they are designed to be worn with a skirt on top of it. This “risk” is literally lower than their intended purpose.

>> No.10398965

>>10395817
Not when you have fools who think it will be ok with no underwear underneath the a anyone who falls over with loose shorts will be flashing anyone with ease even with a skirt on top.

>> No.10398980

>>10395774
I've never seen this pop up. Who's in it?

>> No.10398981

>>10395793
You can only get invited through current members. You have to be approved by the admin before you’re allowed to join. It’s really not that interesting. Most people are there just kissing Avina’s ass and praising her ‘creative’ outfits (read: ugly). It’s very hugboxy and there are some non-efamous lolitas that manages to sneak in who can’t dress themselves and nobody ever says anything about it. I’m talking ‘unzipped dress’ bad. Server is also pretty dead most days. Not worth it imho.

>> No.10398985

>>10398981
God I hate when people do ugly shit in lolita under the guise of being "creative", but I guess that's what nets you the most efame these days

>> No.10398989

>>10398985
Bc normies have no taste and the weirder the better when catering to them.

>> No.10399343

The drama between Lace and Hera is so juicy, I love these two idiots

>> No.10399344

>>10399343
is it even though? I read through that whole document and it was just childish bullshit

>> No.10399345

>>10399343
literally who?

>> No.10399351

>>10395418
>Especially the admin
oh please tell me you're talking about the one with the girl that ree's about gatekeeping all the time and she like, did a fucking blog post after someone called her a gatekeeper.

>> No.10399354

>>10399344
I can't get the time back I spent reading it. It's embarrassing to see people post the link in their Instagram bios.

>> No.10400706

i’m really bored in quarantine and part of me is wishing for this whole laceferatu/herausputzen thing to blow up completely

>> No.10400853

i know it's considered tacky on here but i love holo pieces in space/rainbow-y (like milky planet) themed coords so much

>> No.10400878

>>10399345
Exactly. Kek

>> No.10400934

>>10399343
there was definitely better things i could have been doing besides reading all that bullshit, but it was entertaining. hera is so dramatic, it's like she's begging people to tell her to come back to lolita fashion. dude you are not important and you had maybe one or two decent coords desu

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>>10400853
I love holo pieces too and I've never understood the hatred of it on here.

>> No.10400963

>>10399344

I think between the quarantine and no good tea for a while, this weak ass warmed over toilet water is the best we're going to get. Drama will always be childish, that's sort of the fun. I'll admit I read the tldr version and sort of enjoyed it myself. They're both a mess.

>> No.10400991

>>10400960
I think it’s fine when used correctly. The key word here is CORRECTLY. Holo stuff so often gets shoehorned into coords where it has no business being bc muh rainbows and it looks like garbage

>> No.10401088

I have a crush on a lolita who has a gf and it sucks

>> No.10401095

>>10400991
>being so far up your ass you think you know the correct version of something that is purely subjective

>> No.10401319

>>10401095
Are you new here? Welcome to 4chan.

I’m talking about people who wear holographic shoes with classic lolita and dumb shit like that.

>> No.10401323

>>10400960
Cgl seems to hate anything that isn't 100% perfectly matching, right shade of pink shoes. It's the same shit with hating gold and silver shoes.
I find it pretty wasteful honestly, lolitas used to wear black or white shoes with everything back in the day and it was fine and it looked fine. Now you need 10 different pairs of shoes to go with everything you own. Think you can cheat the system with multicolored shoes? Ho ho, have I got some bad news for you.

>> No.10401327

>>10401319
>I’m talking about people who wear holographic shoes with classic lolita and dumb shit like that.
when did this even happen?

I'm only taking issue with the comment because I've seen anons in the past shit on a good coord JUST because it had holo shoes.
And then not long after, there are a load of anons shitting on the CCF holo shoes calling it an ita magnet, etc.
I didn't even see that many people wearing them so it was almost like a way of shutting down people wearing them. Kind of like the thing with gold shoes back in the day.

But yeah, keep screeching about how I'm new.

>> No.10402691

>>10395602

bodies are weird and everyone is different. I see a lot of curvier ppl squeeze themselves into tiny things that don't fit. Or they leave things unzipped and cover up with a cardigan. Anyway, whatever size you are, find stuff that fits you rather than the other way around.

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10402709

The pandemic has gotten me really depressed and I'm currently a trainwreck. I have bpd, bills to pay, and I recently had to go to the ER bc of self harm. I didn't tell any of my friends or family bc I don't want them to worry. I don't really have a good support system.. I have trust issues. I had to post some of my precious items for personal sale to cover the expenses made things worse bc of the angry dms I've received about items that sold out. I really wish I had some good friends who would give me a hug. Or tell me everything is gonna be okay. I never had a mom or a sister who did that for me. So, it's hard for me to imagine what that's like.

>> No.10402710

>>10402691
I also think its a mater of buying for your body type. Picking a silhouette that looks good & fits you correctly is very important.

>> No.10402714

>>10402709
I am sorry everything has been going so poorly.

>> No.10402719

I think less of people that spend money on overpriced Moitie merch. Every time I see those little acrylic figurines pop up on someone's ig I can't help but judge them. Just....why?

>> No.10402723

>>10402719
lol you know normies propably think that about your overpriced dresses, see its all a matter of what is important to you personally

>> No.10402727

>>10395602
First off, probably should start with being honest with yourself. No way that you are that big at 130 even being tiny. As someone short as well, it doesnt add up. Both measurments are way too big for that weight. At 130 I had a 71 cm waist.

The next thing after you are more honest with yourself is to buy stuff with shirring. Since you have no real bust to waist ratio, buy cuts that make it look like you do.

>> No.10402730

>>10395716
Do you use medication for your IBS? You could also try looking into FODMAP diets or Whole30 to eliminate the foods that irritate your stomach. I have ulcerative colitis so I know how it feels when you get bloated, uncomfortable and achy by just drinking water, but medication and being a bit more careful with my diet has helped.

>> No.10402735

>>10394099
Good point

>> No.10402738

>>10395707
>>10395716
Avoid carbs guys, especially reheated pasta or potato. I also get the extremely painful distended stomach

>> No.10402748

>>10402727
I think they may have meant 130kg since their measurements also i metric

>> No.10402760

>>10402727
>>10402748
op, ok, I was being dishonest, I’m actually 134 lbs (not metric). But it’s true that I’m 92cm waist, I get told often if I’m pregnant... Is anyone else like this?
I feel so pathetic

>> No.10402762

>>10402719
Those people are probably a fan of his bands

>> No.10402764

>>10402709
>I didn't tell any of my friends or family bc I don't want them to worry
>I really wish I had some good friends who would give me a hug
You mean you want people other than your current friends and family to worry?

>> No.10402775

>>10395602
I have an 88 cm waist and slightly larger bust than you, I'm 180 lbs though? So I kind of doubt you're 134 lol, I had a 66 cm waist at 130. Don't do that, it makes it harder to lose it. I only started going back down when I stopped lying to myself.
I fit fine into brand with adequate measurements, and I used to fit fine at my highest, 92 cm, too. Just check lolibrary before buying and figure out what cuts flatter you.
>>10402760
If people are going out of their way to make those comments they're rude, first of all. Second, you should look into whether what you're wearing is accentuating your stomach. I'm really not sure how since lolita is very forgiving of that in particular? I'm sorry you feel pathetic, you aren't. Others' opinions don't matter. Make yourself happy and try to work towards being healthy.

>> No.10402809

>>10402760
Have you had any check ups done lately?
someone I know had a similar issue and it turns out she had a 5kg mass in her womb!

>> No.10402811

you look fucking clapped nigga

>> No.10402834

>>10402760
People have all sorts of different waist measurements, especially depending on your lifestyle and diet. How tall are you?

When I was 130 lbs years ago, I had a ~30" waist. Now I'm 120 with a ~28" waist. Even when I was 95 lbs, my waist was 25". It's unfortunate.

>> No.10402888

I've bought 9 AP dresses during COVID-19. I haven't worn a single one. I have a problem.

>> No.10402893

>>10402888
I mean if you're still working, doesn't matter it's your money but if you aren't and you're going into debt, you are beyond a fucking idiot

>> No.10402908

>>10402888
I bought 20 burando, haven’t received any of them. Covid is getting to me too.

>> No.10402917

>>10402893
I still have my job, for now. Thinking about quitting if they try to force me because into our gross office before I feel safe (I live in one of the worst effected areas).

>>10402908
If we are counting accessories, I'm hovering around 30-40 burando. Let's go crazy together.

>> No.10402933

>>10402908
>>10402917
I bought 10 blouses. I'm going insane

>> No.10402939

>>10402917
I meant *force me back into our gross office

>>10402933
All I want to do is wear my stupid Milky Planet OP (currently trapped in Japan) to my favorite bakery.

>> No.10402941

>>10402888
Same anon, I bought like 5 dresses, 2 blouses and a ton of accessories. Help.

>> No.10402949

>>10402908
>buys dress
>dress tracking does not update because coronavirus
>buys more dress
>hopes second dress offsets unhappiness of not receiving first dress
>repeat infinitely

hello darkness

>> No.10402953

>>10402949
Exactly this. I’ve forced myself to stop now because it’s not working

>> No.10402958

The only reason I haven’t listed half my wardrobe for sale is because I dread interacting with people online and having to figure out the hot mess that is international shipping right now.

>> No.10402961

>>10402888
i have a single giant wunderwelt box with 3 or 4 dresses and 2 blouses, a CC order with 2 blouses, and piles and piles and piles of accessories on the way. i'm still working but my poor wallet

>> No.10403227

I love Moitie but horror garden jsk is so ugly, I don’t understand why people don’t just buy a print skirt.

>> No.10403228

>>10403227
FUCK lol *sleeping garden, apparently I’m a moron

(point still stands though)

>> No.10403229

>>10403228
God I was so confused. i actually quite like the skirt of horror garden though so I almost agreed

>> No.10403347

>>10403227
I agree, the bodice is so weirdly tubular.

>>10402958
I bought a bunch of old school sweet ish pieces and I regret buying them all now that I have a sizeable amount of gothic stuff I actually want and plan on keeping for as long as I live.

>> No.10403451
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10403451

I'm a man. What fucking thread did I just walk into?

>> No.10403455

>>10393817
I could've saved up for a used car in quarantine if I wasn't a fuckwit with a shopping addiction.

Don't get me wrong, I still have $1000 saved up, I can save more, and I'll probably get a massive tax return because I don't earn enough from work to pay taxes, and since I earn less than $100 a week from work, I'm still on welfare so I get the stimulus payments and I voluntarily pay 10% of my centerlink to the ATO, but still, I really need to learn to not spend out the ass the second I'm financially able to.

How do you avoid impulse spending/frivolous spending?

>> No.10403456

>>10403455
Before anyone asks, my wages are low because I'm on a traineeship for a Cert III, and my boss pays me $13 an hour. She should pay more since I'm over 18, but she's already pissed off at me for threatening to tell the ATO she hasn't paid super and forcing her to. I don't wanna lose my job.

>> No.10403494

>>10398981
Avina gets praise because she's a legitimately nice person and always has something nice to say when other people post. Some of her outfits are flops, for sure, but most of them are very visually interesting and use enough Harajuku-themed pieces and styling to be called J-fashion. I appreciate how much support she gives to indie designers and how often she actually uses their pieces in outfits.
I've learned a lot about how to clean up old lolita pieces from Avina.

>> No.10403496

>>10403455
The fear of not being able to find another job soon enough if I loose my current job and become homeless keeps me saving. 1k USD would only cover a month of rent and groceries for me, that's no time in terms of finding a new job where I live.

>> No.10403500

>>10398980
I’m curious too, share

>> No.10403503

>>10403227
>>10403228
Absolutely agree cheap fabric, bad "art", and moitie is my top burando

>> No.10403514

i larp as an asian girl on fb. no particular reason why.

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10403522

>>10403227
it gives me restyle vibes

>> No.10403525

I have a full brand closet I barely ever wear.

>> No.10403605

>>10403525
sell it

>> No.10404038

>>10403605
Nah

>> No.10404144

i'm one of those lolitas where it was my first exposure to any kind of fashion and don't have a really good style outside of it. mostly i wear jeans and tshirts/sweaters. i'd like to get more into interesting non-lolita/western fashion but it's kind of overwhelming, i don't know where to start aside from a few pinterest boards of outfits i like.

>> No.10404226

>>10394798
Fatties will actually claim that eating less and using less gas costs more. Anything to not have to put in effort.

>> No.10404229

>>10404144
good luck. i can't think of any other fashion that has a weirdly strict set of rules to follow

>> No.10404230

>>10403525
Honestly I do too. I've worn maybe 10% of my wardrobe. I have drawers of new, unworn brand socks. My brain likes knowing it's all in pristine condition. I want to wear it all though.

>> No.10404231

>>10400706
Deets?

>> No.10404235

>>10404229
Historical/vintage fashion is an extremely obvious choice.

>> No.10404245

>>10404144
check out r/femalefashionadvice and Justine Leconte officiel on youtube! I’d recommend maybe look into investing in a capsule wardrobe? Top tips are, once you know your body shape and colour undertone, finding someone who matches you and who you think dresses well. You could also look at more defined “normie” styles — my normie wardrobe is heavily inspired by the classic French Girl chic (mixed with a decent amount of Liz Lisa type himekaji pieces oops).

>> No.10404247

>>10404235
what are their strict rules

>> No.10404253

>>10404230
Thing is every wear makes you lose a bit of money, especially for leg wear.

>> No.10404256

>>10404247
god you're an idiot

>> No.10404257

>>10404245
The usefulness of this advice might depend on where OP lives. For example whilst it’s perfectly normal and chic to turn up to brunch in a cute blazer in Paris, people in LA think they’ve “dressed up” if they pull on a pair of lululemon leggings.

>> No.10404259

>>10404256
"has to be vintage" is not a strict rule. it's not like they have outfit anatomy that everyone is forced to follow. go away

>> No.10404275

>>10404259
I think they were talking more of historical fashion since it is usually keep to the same time of era of clothing style and fabrics. Don’t mix female and male styles, themes and so on.

>> No.10404344

I think I'm being sensitive for no reason but here goes. Also kind of a question but didn't think it belonged on the J-fashion question thread.

I honestly don't have the courage to attend meets because I'm worried about being judged. I thought the whole idea of "gatekeeping" was exaggerated online but recently I felt pretty stupid after asking a question. Everyone answered politely, but had a condescending edge to it like how "there are now people in the comm who don't know of [this]" (specific thing that I was asking about).

I understand that the lolita community has somewhat aged because it was big during the livejournal days (if I'm correct?). But it was kind of an unpleasant experience being infantalized because I'm new to the fashion and didn't know something. I'm not even really that young and it just felt like they were mocking my inexperience.

How do newbies cope with the pressure and the stress of having to keep up?

>> No.10404350

>>10404259
are you unaware of anything outside of lolita? putting together accurate period looks is a lot more than "has to be vintage". there are strict rules to dressing historically accurate

>> No.10404355

>>10404245
You can start with r/femalefashionadvice but for the love of God don't completely rely on it. It's full of women that think a blazer over a band tee is the height of sophistication,

>> No.10404361 [DELETED] 

>>10404344
By not being such sensitive pissbabies. Honest advice here, this community may not be for you if you’re this sensitive.

>> No.10404363

>>10404344

It doesn't really sound like you have a problem
with meets, more so with speaking in a group. It doesn't sound like you handle social situations too well, nothing to do with lolitas gatekeeping.

>> No.10404366

>>10404344
There are a ton of people who joined after lj so it isnt that, but it is exhausting to hold newbies hand through life. However you may just be imagining the tone since it is words on a screen not said irl. And depends on the question, although if it was if there was a irl store in the area, or where can I buy lolita, it was well deserved imo.

You can be new and know a lot, and this happens by researching a ton. I find that people who got into fashion or do alt stuff before lolita get it faster. If you are not like that, then do the work to get yourself into the hobby. There are tons of guides out there and things to read, but also it requires a lot of just doing it.

>> No.10404371

>>10404366
I’d bet money that the question was about the culture or drama or something about comms — when I first started out I saw people on places like 4chan and the farm talking about k8 etc. and I remember feeling really out of the loop, like there was an in-group culture that I just wasn’t invited to. It takes a long time to really nestle into the online egl community and a lot of newbies want it to just happen instantly, to instantly have friends and followers and gossip.

>> No.10404385

>>10404344
I think meets will probably be more pleasant for you than interacting online. I say this because during my decade+ of being in a lolita comm I've seen so so SO many newbies get upset at interactions with our comm online purely because they're misinterpreting tone. Like you said, even very polite answers often get interpreted as condescending, I guess because newbies are insecure and approach us with the expectation that we're a bunch of meanie elitists. I've seen newbies get upset at people because they didn't use emoticons ("cold, impersonal"), because they DID use emoticons ("sarcastic"), because they ended their sentence with a period ("harsh, rude"), because they ended their sentence with an exclamation mark ("yelling") etc. Those newbies who didn't flounce immediately and actually attended a few meets were always pleasantly surprised at how normal and pleasant we are IRL, where they could see our expressions and body language and all those other things you can't convey over text.

>> No.10404391

>>10394258
There are active lolita comms on FB for each Canadian big city.

>> No.10404419

>>10404230
Ayrt, same. My problem is I'm too terrified of ruining my brand stuff by wearing it...

>> No.10404423

>>10404419
Yeah sometimes I feel bad for paying $300 on a pure white Moitie dress and never wearing it out to meets... but I just can’t bring myself to risk getting anything on it

>> No.10404434

>>10404344
You actually touched on a relevant point that informs a lot of lolita communities: we were big in lj, which had a search function. The social culture of the community formed when “search the archives first and then ask” was both possible and polite. The community still carries the expectation that you do your research before asking questions, which I don’t think is bad in itself although it can get a little touchy. I would suggest reading a lot of blogs, watching videos and ‘lurking’ for a while before you ask. It’s not bad to ask, but we expect you to do work on your own too. It’s what we all did, and in a fashion where shopping is on the more complex end, it’s a skill you will need to cultivate eventually.

>> No.10404438

>>10403525
>>10404230
Sounds unhealthy

>> No.10404541

>>10404434
My comm has compiled a pretty detailed guide and FAQ that are updated several times a year and linked prominently at the top of the community page. We still regularly get newbies asking where 2 buy lolita cloths?? who then get offended when we point them at the guide. I honestly don’t know what these people expect from us.

>> No.10404580

I don't consider people who only wear lolita to meets, special events, and/or cons actual lolitas.

>> No.10404583 [DELETED] 

>>10404580
Same.

>> No.10404585

>>10404245
>>10404355
thanks for the recs!

>> No.10404600

>>10400934
That's exactly their endgame. They think they're a cornerstone of the community after, what, 18 months of begging, whining, pouting, and trying too hard at everything?

>> No.10404601

>>10404259
I wear vintage (late 50s + 60s) outside of my lolita, and while you can style it casually, if you're going to share it with other vintage fans there are absolutely rules you have to follow.
Just like in lolita, people are really picky about undergarments and silhouettes and only mixing certain types of pieces together. They're also even more obsessed with how you do your hair and makeup.

>>10404144
Well, what kind of styles are you interested in anon? I think the first place to start is in finding people/brands/keywords to describe the things you like. Maybe you could see what your favorite lolitas wear outside of lolita? After you have some idea of what your style is, I recommend Anuschka Rees's blog for figuring out how to get started in building a wardrobe.

>> No.10404606

>>10404344
Fuck off
You're gonna look like an ita anyways, It is summer yet???

>> No.10404618

>>10404606
Psssst summer is when the children come, not the other way around. Learn to meme

>> No.10404658

>>10404618
I lulled at this, too. A lot of newbies who don't know what the fuck they're doing are trotting about here.

>> No.10406294

>>10393817
I don’t like how lolita looks on humans yet love it on girls like misako and kuroekoo (instagram) and anime girls. Can anyone explain to me why lolita translates so badly on most humans? Is it the fact lolitas are fat/ugly? Or...? But liz liza clothes looks fine on the most ugly girls I see online. Sorry for being rude.

>> No.10409239

>>10393817
Lolita silhouette is really age play tier and lolita fashion would look adorable on kids casually up to the age of going to school, and even then the fashion would look great on them in formal occasions. Even Melanie Martinez is less of an age player than the people who unironically advocate lolita. I’m glad I like normal jfash and cosplay.

>> No.10411177

>>10394590
it's not?