/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Anonymous No.10321441]

>TFW Discord has completely ruined /cgl/ con meets and gatherings

[Anonymous No.10321445]

>>10321441
Nah, it just magnified the problems that were already present with /cgl/ but showed them year round. Most gulls are absolute morons at cons but since it's a convention and everyone is running about you don't notice it most the time.

I'm in a few /cgl/ discord channels, I avoid all but one up until con time. If anything cgl discords can be good because it shows you instantly where and who to avoid at cons.

[Anonymous No.10321446]

>>10321441
Not as much as Facebook

[Anonymous No.10321451]

>>10321446
Also this, if you've ever seen a FB gull group you will want to shoot your fucking brains out. Discord looks tame in comparison to the stupid list bullshits of crap on facebook and directly imported social drama

[Anonymous No.10321455]

>>10321451
And it pretty hard to have actually discussions since Facebook wasn't built for that.

Reddit would be the better replacement for LJ, but that would take a massively overhaul to get rid of the itas and creeps

[Anonymous No.10321492]

>tfw discord turns you into /pol/

[Anonymous No.10321496]

What if we made a discord server and verified members are actually apart of the community

[Anonymous No.10321502]

>>10321496
You essentially then get the facebook community shit. How would you enforce it anyways? Link your personal twitter/instagram/facebook to discord. Yeah fucking right.

Discord is fine if your mods are on top of people who want to start shit in the community or are complete dickshits at cons. Though most mods have no clue what they are doing half the time, not to mention who validates who can be there or not? what standard is set and by who?

[Anonymous No.10321537]

>>10321441
looks like a /pol/ meetup

[Anonymous No.10321574]

>>10321441
What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.10321578]

Looks like lolitas ruined the con meet again huh. Tons of them in this pic aren't there.

[Anonymous No.10321609]

>>10321441
Are you sure this isn't an /a/ meetup

[Anonymous No.10321662]

>>10321578
As a lolita myself, we don’t go to “/cgl board meetups” at cons, and I’ve been to cons in multiple states and multiple meetups.(generally) Even though this board has a lot of females, we know these types of meetups are going to have many weird autistist males. We stick to the local comm page on fb honestly and have our own meetups without posting about it here. We don’t want creeps is all.

[Anonymous No.10321895]

>>10321662
ya'll females retards anyways. Yes you lolitas do come to meetups where smaller cons are but stray from the normal meets.

Most lolitas are just walking daddy issues anyways

[Anonymous No.10321896]

>>10321895
wow someone's feelings were hurt

[Anonymous No.10321897]

Brittany Venti used to post on /cgl/

[Anonymous No.10321898]

knowing these are the guys who rp and post scrote shit on the board makes me feel... weirdly better

[Anonymous No.10321928]

>>10321537
Becuase it is

[Anonymous No.10321932]

>>10321897
Brittany Venti is a fucking pathetic handmaiden cuckholdress who craves so dearly for the attention of the lowest specimen of scrote. She lurks all over 4chan looking for attention anywhere she can.

>>10321898
If anything, I am not surprised. Attractive and worthwhile men either come here looking for actual board relevant stuff or don't visit at all. All hate projected on women is bitterness and a reflection on their own lack of self worth, men can't get enough of women no matter what and there are mad about it.

[Anonymous No.10321935]

>>10321895
Sorry that you got rejected by so many girls

[Anonymous No.10321965]

>>10321896
Just going off what i've expirenced. Too many lolitas with cut marks on their legs/arms or into weird breath play in bed. Ya'll fucking crazy.

>>10321935
Nah, no issues getting chicks I just have a problem with how lolitas can't handle anything and drag drama/weird shit into all aspects of cons

[Anonymous No.10321972]

The problem isn't Discord or any particular platform. The problem is that there's not enough gatekeeping when it comes to men. We need to keep out female only spaces.

[Anonymous No.10321977]

>>10321896
>>10321935
>>10321662
It's shit like this that makes me stand away from the lolita crowd and community at any point during cons, or events. Anytime someone brings up anything that isn't praise it's always going to result in this like "wow didn't get my pussy ;^) lol incel!" or some other retarded shit. In the 6-7 years I've been doing cons I think I can count on pretty much one hand the actual sane lolitas I've met who don't do passive aggressive "tips/advice" for making a dress good, import needless facebook drama, or just act stuck up to an annoying level.

I'm sure a good bunch of you are fine but just like in OP's image, which is most likely a discord meetup that "knows of cgl because they clicked on it once before the con, you have good and bad. I will say though that lolita community for the bigger % of you, tend to be stuck up dipshits about every small thing that isn't about you/dress. Learn to fucking chill out a bit and you'd all be much more interesting and probably get away from most the drama in the community, especially if you learn to speak up instead of hid it under your dress till you can rant later on your blogs.

I must say after leaving anything lolita related to just walk around the con, AA, and do my own things at cons my enjoyment has gone up 2000%. Please keep the uppity attitude and disconnection from reality, that way I don't run into you all only to get unrequested "fixes" for my outfit, or weird stares when I mention aliexpress

>>10321972
So what like tea parties? Boy those sure are fucking fun, can't want to awkwardly roleplay some dumb shit for 45 minutes while I pray to get away from it all because the convention spans 3 days. Well worth the hotel room, time, effort and money for 45 minutes of essentially rp.

Also, please not kid ourselves lolitas are always thinking about "huh can't have this I'm too pretty for you, now where's the hunks". The community is just as bad as the other ones that attend cons outside furries.

[Anonymous No.10321979]

>>10321977
>Boy those sure are fucking fun, can't want to awkwardly roleplay some dumb shit for 45 minutes while I pray to get away from it all because the convention spans 3 days.
If you don't like lolita activities like tea parties where you get to discuss things like literature and lolita fashion, don't attend lolita activities. I'd rather drink tea with fellow lolitas than feel uncomfortable while surrounded by no-personality online Nazis.

[Anonymous No.10321981]

>>10321965
Sure, Jan. We can practically smell your virginity.

>>10321977
LARPing scrote detected

[Anonymous No.10321986]

>>10321979
There are so few activities at cons for lolita related stuff that you basically have to attend them all to get the gist of it. I'm sure others have tons of free time but once I started doing full time work and other stuff and time became way more valuable I started to pay attention to the actual lolita stuff that went on.
>literature
It's either buy my book, or let me rant about this book that aligned to me. Discussion? oh nono, this is the only book set you need. Also I am selling it!
>lolita fashion
let me brag about my dress and how I made it
>lolita activities
The only ones I know of are some very awkward photoshoots, maybe the dances? or some viewing. All of which are insanely cut and dry to a point of a chore more than an enjoyment to anyone who values time.

Again I said I distanced myself from the lolita community and my fun has greatly increased, how you ignored that is beyond me.

>I'd rather drink tea with fellow lolitas than feel uncomfortable while surrounded by no-personality online Nazis.
Godwin's law, anon. Again proving my point in the post you replied to, say anything that is negative to the community bam WTF INCEL POL! It's annoying beyond belief and something the other communities I've found in cons don't have, most are always open to some form of criticism. Lolita community is the one community that without fail can't handle anything that isn't praise. Thanks for proving my point yet again.

>>10321981
>LARPing scrote detected
Great counter point holy shit BTFO! Enjoy your community but understand we are all in the same shit bucket at cons, just in different ways. The lolita one just seems to scream the loudest about anything slightly negative or constructive criticism

[Anonymous No.10322000]

>mfw the CGL discord I joined is slowly turning into a man-hating angry lesbian/tranny hangout begging for ways to make money for boobjobs.

In other words, perfect for the average gull

[Anonymous No.10322019]

>>10321977
>Unironically thinking any of this happens
It is you who are disconnected from reality, anon.

[Anonymous No.10322027]

back when /cgl/ actually had cosplayers

[Anonymous No.10322029]

>>10321977
hm I'm sorry but you sound kind of delusional. If you're into the fashion, you should try to get involved with your local comm because I've heard con-lolita and comm-lolita are very different feels for communities. I've only ever had very positive experiences with lolitas, and I have never been to a convention before.

If you're a guy, which is seems like you are, I respect that it might be tough since EGL clothing that men tend to wear (like ouji or more aristocratic styles) tends to not be as focused on and as a dude you might feel a bit like an outsider. It must be even harder if you like to wear the dresses. I really hope that you keep trying though because it's sad that you've had such bad experiences. CGL is absolutely not representative of lolitas in general.

[Anonymous No.10322032]

>>10322029
>. I've only ever had very positive experiences with lolitas, and I have never been to a convention before.
Did you completely gloss over the part where I said at conventions? Could it be, that I am talking about the lolita crowds at anime conventions? How are you missing this?

>CGL is absolutely not representative of lolitas in general.
Again, talking about the ones that do cons in a thread on CGL about CGL(and the discord sub section) at cons. You're moving the point of the topic and conversation into something that has nothing to do with what I posted.

[Anonymous No.10322033]

>>10322029
>It's shit like this that makes me stand away from the lolita crowd and community at any point during cons
First line, how did you miss this. Did you mean the events? Yes the events at cons are not the full con.

[Anonymous No.10322038]

>>10322032
>>10322033
Jeez first of all, you're kind of incoherent so following what you're saying was a challenge. Second, you came off as kind of ranty so I tried to go for the full gist of what you were saying because I don't have the patience to carefully parse every meandering sentence full of ambiguous pronouns and "this"s and "that"s, so bear with me.

It seemed from your post that the only experiences you've had with lolitas has been from conventions. And I'm trying to tell you that I have never been to a convention, and I do not share your negatives experiences, try branching out instead.

[Anonymous No.10322041]

>>10322038
No where in the posts I was ever stating local comm, no where did I imply it or anything of the such. I have and always was talking about cons. It's been that way since the first line, and referenced about CONS ever since, not local comm meetups. Please post where I said local comm meetups in my posts.

>It seemed from your post that the only experiences you've had with lolitas has been from conventions
I have been referencing the word con, con events, and panels at cons throughout my posts. It's not hard to grasp that I am specifically talking about lolita groups and the lolita community that attends cons as their primary way of living out their lolita whatever.

You are literally missing the point of my posts which reference specifically to (anime)cons, in a thread about cgl at anime cons. Again, how you failed to acknowledge that is beyond me unless you were just blatantly ignoring it after getting riled up or something.

The reason I pointed out " I'm trying to tell you that I have never been to a convention" which is what I am talking about specifically, is due to the fact I have no qualms with local comm lolita gatherings. However, this thread is about anons at conventions, so why you would suddenly change to "well local com meets" when it was not mentioned is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.10322050]

It's so embarrassing that all of you are falling for scrote bait. The whole point is that they aren't even a regular to this board, they just want to cause a rise out of suspected women because that's the only female attention they get. It's kind of like when scrotes complain about whores, but still watch porn and follow them on instagram.

[Anonymous No.10322058]

>>10321928
Too white to be a /pol/ meet

[Anonymous No.10322082]

>>10322050
You know I always wonder how fat the person who uses the word "scrote" is

[Anonymous No.10322126]

>>10322082

[Anonymous No.10322212]

>>10322126
Why would the woman who posted this use a photo taken off Facebook if it was her?
Don't do this to this girl.

[Anonymous No.10322277]

>>10321441
The same proprietary software ruined the Canada threads too. Hiro needs to grow a pair and filter it.

[Anonymous No.10322278]

>>10322126
This is that Elongated Muskrat fangirl that gets herself wet every time Muskrat tweets isn't it

[Anonymous No.10322300]

>>10322027
>lel @ the /fit/ guy.

[Anonymous No.10322305]

>>10321441
No, you and the rest of the people on this board ruined it. By existing.

[Anonymous No.10322309]

>>10321897
Why are none of those white supremacists, you know, white?

[Anonymous No.10322435]

>>10321492
Why is that anon?

[Soup No.10322449]

>>10322027
Those were some dark times. I'm glad we all moved on to better and greater things

[Anonymous No.10322508]

>>10322041
Anon is literally telling you to fucking join a comm because your experience with lolitas might be different to at cons, how fucking dense are you? Can you read??

[Anonymous No.10322515]

>>10321537
Looks more like a reddit conservative meet up

[Anonymous No.10322519]

>>10322126
I want so badly to believe this is a self post and she browses /cgl/

I love her look

[Anonymous No.10322521]

>>10322515
Nah, reddit is way whiter.

[Anonymous No.10322526]

>when's the meetup gulls?
>bro just join the discord lol

I want to be anonymous you fucking faggots.

[Anonymous No.10322530]

>>10322526
>join discord
>find meet place and lurk
>don't mention who you are on discord
>if anyone asks how you found this place, say you over heard some stuff earlier from someone
wowie so hard

[Anonymous No.10322564]

>>10322526
being anonymous is a bit of a red flag. you sound like a scrote afraid for people to find out how creepy you are..

[Anonymous No.10322587]

>>10322508
Okay? I wasn't ever talking about that, why would I bring up something out of the blue when the thread is about things at conventions? If I wanted to address local comm shit I would.

Again, lolita comms and lolitas at anime cons are different. Why the fuck should I address local comm shit in a thread about meets at anime conventions?

[Anonymous No.10322590]

>>10322519
Pretty sure she does post here, I remember her being on the old goose discord.

[Anonymous No.10322594]

>Anon is literally telling you to fucking join a comm because your experience with lolitas might be different to at cons, how fucking dense are you? Can you read??

Are we reading the same thing? Because in the post you are replying to anon specifically stated he has no issues with local comm meets with lolitas. Just the BS that goes on with lolita's that exclusively do anime con shit for their lolita fix.

Good job also proving the point of "anything negative said about lolitas causes them to flip shit" stigma.

[Anonymous No.10322605]

>>10322594
poster of >>10322029 here:
maybe he clarified that in later posts, but his initial rant >>10321977 was very ambiguous about whether he had any experiences with lolitas in comms, and my reading of it gave me the impression he hadn't because of his rather awful writing style:

"I will say though that lolita community for the bigger % of you, tend to be stuck up dipshits about every small thing that isn't about you/dress. Learn to fucking chill out a bit and you'd all be much more interesting and probably get away from most the drama in the community, especially if you learn to speak up instead of hid it under your dress till you can rant later on your blogs."

Specifically sounded like he was talking about lolitas in general.

Also nice try about trying to motte your claim "I was only talking specifically about convention lolitas in every sentence of my rant." Sprinkling in shit like
>Also, please not kid ourselves lolitas are always thinking about "huh can't have this I'm too pretty for you, now where's the hunks".

and

>it's always going to result in this like "wow didn't get my pussy ;^) lol incel!"

belies his underlying beliefs about women in general

[Anonymous No.10322616]

>>10322605
It's pretty clear what's meant unless you are trying to take it personally for no reason. There is a specific of "during cons" right there, so it's obvious that it's the lolita con crowd and community. If English isn't your first language then maybe you got confused, but it's pretty clear in that post and given the context of the thread what is meant.

Needing to constantly restate the fact that anon is specifically talking about cons would just be useless as the context has been set. It would only be useful to those with severe ADHD. The line before it is specifically talking about cons, he didn't move to another paragraph or wildly mention that he began talking about local comm to change the subject entirely. It's obvious the same mind track is going on there unless you're looking for something to take personal.

>Sprinkling in shit like
Those are fairly common bullshit stuff that comes up in discords with lolita's and con threads where that mindset is completely normal. Again, nothing in the posts you are referring to ever mentioned local coms. You're bringing up something no one discussed anywhere and trying to mash it into the conversation.

>belies his underlying beliefs about women in general
How did you get this? If anything shit like this is pretty damn common for both females and males at cons, so it's not really that hard to see or state the obvious. Not to mention he was referring to posts, ITT about those exact statements. For all you know anon is not a CIS male, so you're just again bending what's posted to fit some mindset you have.

[Anonymous No.10322624]

>>10322605
>I've only ever had very positive experiences with lolitas, and I have never been to a convention before.

Forgot this part, but what anon is saying for the mindset in an anime convention is completely normal. You're comparing comm stuff with the shitfest that is anime conventions. You're thinking they are 1:1 when they are quite the opposite. You have no insight into where anon is coming from, nor the OP, so it's obvious you're getting confused in a subject you have no experience in.

If OP said something about local lolita comm stuff and that was the subject of most the posts, okay you have a point. Though no one was talking about that until you came along, you're trying to compare an apple and a banana.

[Anonymous No.10322631]

>>10322616
okay this argument is getting tedious and boring but im gonna bring out my reading comprehension hat and explain to you once for all what gave me the impression that angry-at-conlitas-anon conflated comm lolitas with con lolitas:

this sentence (really a whole paragraph) right here:
>Learn to fucking chill out a bit and you'd all be much more interesting and probably get away from most the drama in the community, especially if you learn to speak up instead of hid it under your dress till you can rant later on your blogs.

Specifically referring to the "community" made me raise my eyebrows a little, because having a community of just specifically lolita convention goers that is apart from the greater lolita community enough to refer to them as a "community" seems strange to me. Like I said, I've never been to a convention or partook in lolita convention events, so I may be wrong here. It seemed implausible in this sentence that he was referring to the "conlita community that is indepenent from the greater lolita community." which made me think he believes lolitas in general exhibit similar traits as conlitas like this. That sentence I quoted is particularly scathing, so I believe it merited some kind of #notalllolitas response.

If I'm wrong and I misunderstood, then I guess I'm sorry. I don't think it's outrageous for me to have come to this conclusion though and I think this person's vitriol towards my responses is grossly unwarranted, especially considering I was trying to be kind and encouraging compared to the other dismissive and flippant responses they got.

Fwiw I have heard that conlitas are mean god-awful bitches so I don't doubt they might be uniquely awful and merit their own paragraph of distain, but I can't personally speak to that or how strong of a "community" conlitas are.

[Anonymous No.10322633]

>>10321977
I only come here to read what roleplayers thing Lolita is. Got me to reply. Good read.

[Anonymous No.10322642]

>>10322631
The community part obviously means the community around cons. I don't understand in a thread about con meets, with a post constantly referring to cons, you need this more clarified. You're completely changing subjects and focus for no reason, what was the sentence suppose to say "the lolita con community that is not the local comm community which till this point has not been the focus of conversation."? Hot damn. You literally are taking this as a personal thing when you misread what was typed, it's fair to see that.

>If I'm wrong and I misunderstood, then I guess I'm sorry. I don't think it's outrageous for me to have come to this conclusion though and I think this person's vitriol towards my responses is grossly unwarranted
No one was talking about local comm shit, no one was even hinting at them, you misread and took it personal that's the only thing here.

You also admitted you don't have any experience with conventions, so it's pretty obvious most this shit doesn't make sense. You're trying to compare two different communities and assume they are the same, and taking stuff personally.

[Anonymous No.10322651]

>>10321935
How do I get accepted instead?

[Anonymous No.10322652]

>>10322651
maybe not be a raging dick to them

[Anonymous No.10322658]

>>10321441
How do I find Discord channels? Is there a search function or something?

[Anonymous No.10322659]

Wtf all, why do you care so much about lolitas at cons.

[Anonymous No.10322678]

>>10322652
But I'm not, I am nothing but friendly.
I think they can tell how badly I want them, how much it means to me that I am talking to her. and they hate it.
How do I hide this look of longing?

[Anonymous No.10322690]

>join /cgl/ discord for country I'm in
>post-work drink meets almost every night
>usually a get-together every month or so for watching anime
>actual hangouts at conventions
>decent balance of guys and girls
A rare sight but it's nice to know good servers exist

[Anonymous No.10322716]

I’m a lolita who likes to meet and get lit with cgl incels because they’re chill af and funny and weird . We all have that in common

[Anonymous No.10322719]

>>10322678
Sigh. Honestly the only real way is to genuinely not be so desperate. Im imagining you as a certain type of person I've met before, and trying to imagine what I'd say to them if they asked me.

The sad answer is you can't hide it, if you're desperate it will probably show. The best advice I can give to people is to put a lot of effort into your appearance if that's an issue, and focus on your own hobbies and interests because it definitely shows when you're into things for the sake of getting girls. Most of the work of getting into some kind of relationship happens before the meet cute. You need to be the kind of person that girl wants to be with, and if you're not, there is really no faking it.

[Anonymous No.10322818]

>>10322651
be good looking

[Anonymous No.10322824]

>>10321441
>>10321897
>>10321977
This is highly disturbing and it's not okay. It's not normal. You're not "fitting in." Everyone at these meets needs help. And this person needs help. You'll get no sympathy here. You'll get no empathy here. What you're looking for, it won't exist for you. This is sick and it's sickening.

>>10322690
Anon this gives me hope. Thanks. Cheers and say hi to everyone~

[Anonymous No.10322831]

>>10322824
Not sure why the third post is in there other than for (you)'s but the first 2 I see being pretty meh.

Third post there seems to just be saying that con communities can be shit, which is completely true and no group is immune to it. Specifically the lolita crowd at cons which seem to be a huge ball of drama slinging shit.

[Anonymous No.10322850]

>>10322719
>Honestly the only real way is to genuinely not be so desperate.
I don't know how to lessen my feelings from having a girls attention. I enjoy my interests, and my life in general. But I am hopeless with women.
Besides, how would a girl feel to find out I had trained myself to feel less from speaking to her, which will certainly mean feeling less from dating her?
Can you tell me, this certain type of person you are imagining, is there any hope for him?

[Anonymous No.10322898]

>>10322850
you can still have strong feelings for a girl, just not for anything that moves. get standards.

[Anonymous No.10322905]

>>10322850
Based on your reply sounds like there isnt much hope for you. Stop overthinking it and be less desperate. Once you are happy with yourself then some girls will start to like you

[Anonymous No.10322906]

>>10322850
You crave attention from good looking girls only, correct? Because there are plenty of unattractive girls out there that will take whatever, so you wouldn't be hopeless if you were willing to take them

[Anonymous No.10322952]

>>10322906
>>10322898
These responses seem to be contradictory. I have some standards, but they aren't that stringent , especially for looks. But just like me, I think she should have a healthy weight and good hygiene.
But even outside of the women I would be willing to date, it is still difficult.
>>10322905
I think I am happy with myself outside of my issue intereracting with girls I imagine might develop a hint of tension with me. Which so far has never happened. But in a world where my eagerness to interact with them is seen as a positive, then it wouldn't be a problem.

[Anonymous No.10323025]

T. Seething tranny who still isn't over Trump.

[Anonymous No.10323027]

>>10322027

Now the mear mention of 4chan can get you kicked from a con.

[Anonymous No.10323030]

>>10321662
Sorry that you got rejected by so many guys

[Anonymous No.10323034]

>>10321981
And just because you’re wearing underwear doesn’t mean we can’t smell your acrid vinegar factory at cons

Tf makes you lot think anyone with the slightest shred of self respect wants a piece of that

[Anonymous No.10323036]

anyone who unironically goes to a /cgl/ meetup should kill themselves

[Anonymous No.10323198]

>>10323036
cringe

[Anonymous No.10323316]

>>10323036
>Anonymous

[Anonymous No.10324291]

>>10321441
Honestly before Discord, I often found it hard to meet up with even a single person. Lack of usernames and the not-quite-instantaneous nature of 4chan and email make it hard to get people together, especially if there's a problem with your original plans. Having an IM system like Discord makes the logistics much easier.

[Anonymous No.10324300]

>>10322000
Which server?

[Anonymous No.10324304]

>>10321977
>Please keep the uppity attitude and disconnection from reality, that way I don't run into you all only to get unrequested "fixes" for my outfit, or weird stares when I mention aliexpress

Anon, please. If you are getting unsolicited tips and weird stares, that means what you are wearing is so far off the mark as to be off-putting and bad. If you are awkwardly RPing at teas too then yes, please don’t attend, that’s not what they are for.

[Anonymous No.10324365]

>>10321441
Discord ruins everything and anyone who uses it should be ashamed of themselves.

[Anonymous No.10324368]

>>10323198
>>10323316
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.10324405]

Sakura con meetup made it the most enjoyable con I've ever been to

[Anonymous No.10324546]

>>10322126
damn you're ugly

[Anonymous No.10324551]

>>10322690
What country?

[Anonymous No.10324559]

>>10322952
When a desperate guy talks to me, I can’t help but think that all they want is a gf for the status, and I could be replaced with another healthy weight and good hygiene gal. Like geez, it’s as if you just like the idea of me and don’t actually see (or even seek to see) who I am as a person. Not exactly what I want in a relationship. Not to mention that it feels weird to be treated as some unicorn and creates a huge disconnect.

[Anonymous No.10325549]

>>10324559

this. It doesn't feel good to be the "anyone will work I just need SOMEONE" in someone's life

[Anonymous No.10325552]

>>10324551
United Kingdom

[Anonymous No.10325557]

>>10325552
BRITGULLS INGUHLUND

[Anonymous No.10325559]

>>10321441
Good lord is this what gull meetups look like? I hate having a face to all the cringe larpers on the board.


Why the fuck would you meet up in public, especially if you aren’t wearing cosplay or jfashion?

[Anonymous No.10325563]

>>10321977
Ok cuck

[Anonymous No.10325776]

>>10322952
That's already asking too much, if you're unattractive. Stop whining and go for fatties.

[Anonymous No.10325778]

>>10324559
This. I can't imagine dating a guy who had no options and knowing he didn't choose me, rather I was all he could get.

[Anonymous No.10325840]

>>10325776
I mean, I am at a healthy weight and I have no deformities or disfigurements, and I am not short, so I do not think I am specifically unattractive. I don't think asking for a controllable trait is too much, it might as well be avoiding an undesirable personality trait

[Anonymous No.10325843]

>>10325840
If you've been rejected by literally everyone so far, it is definitely asking too much. The fact is that skinny girls, even the less attractive ones, will have better prospects than you. Whereas the fat ones are on your desperation level.

[Anonymous No.10325845]

>>10325843
This is rude to fat people and also bad advice. If you aren't attracted to someone, you aren't attracted to them. Don't date someone you don't like just because you're worried you can't get a girl you do like.

[Anonymous No.10325847]

>>10325778
>>10324559
>>10325549
I understand this, but there would be a personal emotional investment developed from the kindness you are showing by spending some of your time.
If someone decides they want to date you based on something they saw you do, that reflects who you really are, it would be the best way to start a connection but that rarely happens in real life. Men try to date women before they actually know much about their personality.
For deciding who to try to date, either he is shallow and goes for a specific appearance, or he will just try to talk with women who seem nice. By cutting out the latter, who might seem desperate, you restrict yourself to the former.

[Anonymous No.10325849]

>>10325845
It's rude but true. Incels are really just volcels who aren't willing to reasonably settle.

[Anonymous No.10325850]

>>10325843
This seems pretty bleak. For reference, can you post a picture of healthy weight guy that could only expect to ever be with a very overweight woman? I didn't think things were so lopsided.

[Anonymous No.10325851]

>>10325850
One who is a 5 or below here.

[Anonymous No.10325857]

>>10325851
A 5? Are you an evangelical incel or a schizophrenic female dating strategy poster?
Who else would be trying to convince 5/10 men that they should go for 3/10 women?

[Anonymous No.10325859]

>>10325857
Being fat doesn't make a girl a 3. Plenty of fat girls have pretty, symmetrical faces. Different features matter for each gender.

[Anonymous No.10325862]

>>10325851

>tfw think the indian guy in tier 3 is kinda cute if he made a different expression

But honestly speaking though. Most of the dudes in tier 4 and 5 would move up a tier if they simply took better photos. Less crazy eyes, better lighting, a myspace angle or two to hide extra chins. If you hold a cute kitten it'd probably bump you up to a 7, honestly.

Also, it's kinda disheartening to read so much junk that is actually fixable. The fuck, "slightly below average hygiene"? Bad complexion? Pimples? bad hair cut? Geez. I'll tell you right now, it's not that these guys are "ugly", they just have a shitty lazy attitude towards life if they aren't even taking care of their hygiene, and of course it turns girls off. who the fuck wants to go home with a guy with below-average hygiene and risk finding a cockroach while you're doing the dirty?

[Anonymous No.10325869]

>>10325862
Honestly the real problem is that they want girls who are 6+ when they are 4 or 5 themselves. They feel entitled to a more attractive girl. That's the issue for most.

[Anonymous No.10325874]

>>10325859
I don't know what you are trying to say. Which features are supposed to differ in importance between men and women, are you talking about weight?
Are you saying weight doesn't matter as much as a man, so I get no advantage for being a healthy weight, or that it is easier for women to be "fat" and still be a 5/10?
In the later case I don't think we are taking about the same kind of fat.

[Anonymous No.10325887]

>>10325869

The heart wants what it wants. I wouldn't blame a dude for wanting hot girls, it's not like they can help it.

The entitlement is a whole other issue, though.

Plus, it's really the lazyness that gets me. Like, half the problems of tier 3, most of the issues in tiers 4 and 5, even obesity can be solved if they got off their ass and decided to work towards being a 7 so they can go get that hot 6 they wanted (if they miss they'd still likely land in tier 6 anyway).

Besides, what kind of life is it when one is simply "below average in hygiene"? I'm not saying everybody should aspire to being a model Disney prince with wardrobe assistants, but surely you gotta take care of yourself and then live your best life, regardless of girl or not. What kind of life is so bad that they can barely clean themselves to be "below average hygiene" -- and then go out and complain they can't get hook up, wtf?

[Anonymous No.10325983]

>>10325887
>I wouldn't blame a dude for wanting hot girls, it's not like they can help it.
hence why the entitlement is an issue
it's fine to want hot girls but obviously they're not gonna get them so they're stuck single and tfw no gf-ing

[Anonymous No.10326009]

>>10325983

That's the thing though, they're not all stuck. For those "unwashed", "pimple", "bad haircut" it's easy enough to add a few more hygiene actions to their day and bump themselves up another tier. Obese dudes have a more difficult time losing weight to go up a tier, but it's still doable (even if you only go from being potato-shaped to couch potato it still bumps you from tier 3 to tier 4 already, which is still an improvement). Then drop the macho attitude and learn to take nicer selfies and now they're up yet another tier.

Entitlement isn't the whole problem. Entitlement while being lazy, unwashed, and complaining that they're too helpless to help themselves is.

[Anonymous No.10326046]

>>10321897
They look like they're having fun. Unacceptable.

[Anonymous No.10326050]

>>10321979

>>10321981

>>10322019

>>10322029

>>10322824

>gulls prove anon right yet again

The lack of self awareness on this cursed board is a meme at this point.

[Anonymous No.10326055]

>>10322690
Britgull discord has the same lolita larper problem and also gets far too interested in con drama even compared to other gull discords

[Anonymous No.10326076]

>>10321441
Must reek of virgin and funyuns.

[Anonymous No.10326155]

>>10321441
What are these scrotes cosplaying as? Why are they here if they are neither cosplayers nor lolitas

[Anonymous No.10326334]

>>10325851
>those tripfags placed near the top
Don't think I don't notice anon

[Anonymous No.10326336]

>>10326055
Nobody ever even discusses lolita or con drama in there, don't know what britgull discord you're in but it's not the main one

[Anonymous No.10326360]

Can I get a link to the server?

[Anonymous No.10326371]

>>10325869
And what then is a 6/10 girl in comparison to a 5/10? Surely this sort of Gap is easily bridged.
For reference, can you show the 6/10
That these >>10325851 listed average guys couldn't get?

[Anonymous No.10326401]

>>10326360
which?

[Anonymous No.10326410]

>>10326401
The best American one
Pacific Northwest if it matters

[Anonymous No.10326482]

>>10324559
>>10325549
I'm not going to put words into the guy's mouth, but also as a guy, I want to try and help you with what standards mean to me, and may mean to others.
If I say I want a girl who is a healthy weight with good hygiene(since that's what he said), that doesn't mean I'll be interested in every girl who meets that. It means I won't be interested in girls who don't. Knowing absolutely nothing about a girl, if she's significantly overweight and visibly dirty or is clouded in an odor I find repulsive, I cannot date her no matter how cool she is. But that doesn't mean those are the two most important things to me, either. In this example, they would just the hurdles I can't get past. If I'm given two girls who are "a healthy weight" I won't pick one over the other because one is ten pounds lighter or heavier and therefore closer to the ideal BMI, whatever that may be. Likewise, if both girls didn't smell bad, I wouldn't choose one just because she smelled better. A "standard" would be as long as they fit into whatever I determine to be healthy or hygienic then I could envision myself dating them.
Now, moving onto dating. Women tend to put more weight on dating than men do. Dating does not mean boyfriend/girlfriend. They think dating is the end game or something. Dating is just the period where two people get to know each other. You can date a stranger. You don't have to kiss him just because you go on a date. What a lot of women do that discourages a lot of guys is something along the lines of "I'd rather get to know you as a friend first." That can be one of two things. 1) the woman doesn't understand a guy wanting to date her means he wants to get to know her. 2) she does, but doesn't want to flat out deny him. Both are damaging to a male's confidence. For the second specifically, if you have no interest, just say no.
continued below

[Anonymous No.10326484]

>>10326482
Now, read this and ask yourself if you agree with it: "I would never date a guy who would refuse to be friends with me in the event I'm not interested in dating him."
To elaborate, imagine the guy went through this with another girl. She "just wanted to be friends" and he was not interested. You would see this as a red flag.
If you agree with the above, get that out of your head. If you were interested in a guy, and he just wanted to be friends, what then? Maybe you could, maybe you couldn't. It's the same for guys, but finding friends is not difficult. Don't fall for the "marry your best friend," saying. A significant other shouldn't just be "a friend you chose to exclusively be intimate with." If you think all a boyfriend/girlfriend is is a good friend you fuck sometimes, you're pretty far gone. If you don't think that, most guys agree with you. All women are valuable and unique, but you have to accept that while what you offer in a relationship may be exactly what a guy is looking for, what you offer as a friend may not be worth his time. Of course that's not always true. You can make great friends with people you decided you can't be in a relationship, but you can't think just because a guy thinks you would be a good girlfriend, that automatically makes you a good friend.
This has gone on pretty long, but your idea of a "desperate guy" is wrong. Chris-chan was a desperate guy. He wanted a girl he found attractive, didn't care who she was, while he himself was blissfully unaware of how little he brought to the table as a dating candidate. Most guys don't like fat smelly chicks. That doesn't mean the only reason they're interested in dating you is because you're not fat or smelly. It means, because you're not fat and smelly, they were able to see the things they value in a potential partner. Or put more simply: without any turn-offs, we then see the turn-ons.

[Anonymous No.10326510]

>>10326482
>>10326484
>local incel thinks anyone actually cares about his standards, writes entire dissertation on anonymous message board

[Anonymous No.10326536]

>>10326510

>>10326484

>Standards of hygiene are tools of the patriarchy to keep gulls down
>ugh, incells expect me to excuse their poor hygiene

[Anonymous No.10326538]

>>10326536
>local incel writes tl;dr no one asked him for, gets butthurt at getting called incel
imagine thinking people actually give two fucks enough to read full paragraphs about how you...what, expect women to shower?
no1 curs anon

[Anonymous No.10326622]

>>10326484s
i have had several friends that i wouldnt consider dating pretty much exclusively because of their hygiene, my brain wont go any further than that. maybe theyd be great partners but theyre probably never going to find out until they shower and brush their teeth more often

[Anonymous No.10326639]

>>10326510
It's not about anyone's specific standards. It's about the concept of standards as a whole, and how you misunderstand what is meant by standards. But keep being blissfully unaware and lonely.

[Anonymous No.10326696]

Have all of you, of both genders, considered that your primary problem in dating is being *really* shallow, and all singles of half-decent quality can sense that in you and don't want someone who's going to throw them away in 10 years?

[Soup No.10326747]

>>10325851
Matt bought a Dante cosplay off eBay and lied saying he made it >:[

[Anonymous No.10327216]

>>10321441
imo, Discord like any social media accelerates drama and that's what ruins /cgl/ meets

[Anonymous No.10327221]

>>10327216
Pretty much this but with really way shittier mods, power struggles, and stupid shit at cons bakes and ruins shit.
>con a while back, thread has discord about it
>discord is chill go to the con have a decently nice time
>do some small cons with them before a big one comes up
>one dude talking about room party to some people, decide to go hang with them
>figure out later there was main party with Y person who is friends with mods
>wow anon where were you last night? You missed the big party!
uhh went to X party, didn't know there was another one
>whoa hold up you with to X party? no anon that's not cool
Was there another party?
>get told how I was suppose to know to message people on discord about a party I didn't know about
>the full year after people think I am butt buddies with X person cuz I went to his party
>apparently everyone thinks/assumes he is a creep but don't live around the group so didn't know him IRL too well
>get it all cleared up after a while
>basically start flaking from the group because I don't feel the need to prove myself for some dumbshit
>finally end up having fun at cons again
>mods don't boot the creeps because they "want to keep tabs on them" or have some large server number.

Discord can be fun for meets but overall it can tank harder than anything and ruin a group of people.

[Anonymous No.10327237]

>>10325874
Still left contemplating this one. I don't know how to proceed from here.

[Anonymous No.10327376]

>>10327221
Do you mind dropping what con this was for?
Sounds pretty awful

[Anonymous No.10327381]

gonna sound like a brag but I’ve had people interested to be in relationships for the past 7 years of my life. You should just genuinely work on yourself and look to make friendships and deep connections. Just wanting a gf out of desperation or to bang can be sensed a mile away and you probably rolled a -6 charisma when you decided to be so shallow. If you’re single, you’re probably boring or don’t strive to improve yourself and build up things that have meaning. Spend less time on ur shitty boat or gun girl apps and get some genuine conversations going.

[Anonymous No.10327420]

I would appreciate if someone can explain why Discord is being blamed for things? I don't use the service, and thought it was just a cross between a chatroom and Skype?

[Anonymous No.10327421]

>>10327420
It's just anons with poor social skills looking for a scapegoat

[Anonymous No.10327422]

>>10327381
>boat or gun girl apps
Gachas need to be exterminated.

[Anonymous No.10327427]

>>10327422
This so much

[Anonymous No.10327446]

>>10327376
Acen

[Anonymous No.10330116]

>>10325851
This post is great, it shows you exactly how insane women are. They put literal models as average and go "Well he might have a crooked tooth in the back so he's 5/10". This is why women never rate men as 8-10. Even a perfect man isn't perfect enough for their standards. They also won't date down so you can't get a 6 as a 6, you need to be a 7.

Desperate anon, don't date con girls, cosplayers or streamers. Never ever do it. It's all attention seeking behaviour and they can get more attention from else where so you will always lose to the horde of slobbering betas following them on social media. Go on Reddit and take part in the singles subreddit, practice flirting with women through text, get to the point where you're not a bumbling mess. Bitches ain't nothing but trouble, but I understand why you desire a relationship. That drive is in all red blooded men. Either way, go practice getting tit pics on Reddit til you figured out your flirting style. Then apply it to women IRL. But don't go for attention seekers, it ALWAYS ends badly.

Legbeards gonna rage but IDGAF. Got a gf and she's not a used up con slut thinking she's a 8 when she's a 3 and a hot guy had drunk goggles on.

[Anonymous No.10330168]

>>10326410
Are you going to Sak?

[Anonymous No.10330182]

>>10330116
let's be real, that graphic was probably made by a man. if a woman made it, height would be in the criteria.

>inb4 I'm not like the other girls and my bf is short

[Anonymous No.10330193]

>>10330182
you're right.

Also the thing >>10330116
is missing is that women don't care nearly as much as guys about how attractive they are anyway. so even if this guy is right about women having higher standards of attractiveness for men when it comes to placing them on a 10 scale (which I doubt) it doesn't really mean much practically.

In my experience, girls I know care way more about things like personality, confidence, emotional EQ, displays of tasteful dominance like not being wishy-washy about shit, intelligence, physical strength, and, yes, height than they care about how nice their face looks (assuming he's not a troglodyte)
Do gulls agree with me here?

[Anonymous No.10330197]

>>10330193
ayart, i agree. incels focus on looks because they have no understanding of personality. or rather, applied personality. they have a personality in their head, but not in practice. they think "I have a great personality because I desire a long-term relationship instead of a one-night stand" but then give a half-hour synopsis of an anime series in place of any meaningful conversation.

[Anonymous No.10330218]

>>10330193
I wouldn't take that chart so seriously because it was posted more for provocation more than anything. Your actually correct, but the most important and universal component of what attracts a woman to a man is security. If you act like a psychotic pussy and have no money, there is no way you can provide that. A lot of males like to make women feel bad for having a slither of standards, regardless of how reasonable they are.

[Anonymous No.10330235]

>>10322515
there's no difference

[Anonymous No.10330246]

>>10330218
I'd say you don't even have to have a lot of money as long as you provide other forms of security - like staying super calm, making decisions in a deep voice, and being handy.

[Anonymous No.10330323]

Is there anybody still here from the Otakon 2010-2014 /cgl/ meetups? I met some of you guys, I miss you all, fun times.

[Anonymous No.10330332]

>>10326484

> If you think all a boyfriend/girlfriend is is a good friend you fuck sometimes, you're pretty far gone.

But that's literally what it is

t. married guy.

[Anonymous No.10330334]

>>10330193
>women don't care nearly as much as guys about how attractive they are
this is what uggoes love to tell themselves
men and women are equally superficial, it's just that women are also willing to settle for an uggo in exchange for money/fame
an uggo who is poor and a nobody will not get girls no matter how confident or nice he is.

[Anonymous No.10330336]

>>10330116
there is a 99% chance your gf lied to you about how many men she's been with, so

[Anonymous No.10330350]

>>10330334
"Boohoo, women care about more things than looks and that means they're just as superficial as people who pretty much only care about looks"

Men who are able to support themselves are attractive because of what that means about them, not because women are whores you dunce. It's literally the opposite of being superficial

[Anonymous No.10330354]

>>10330350
being a gold digger or fame whore is just as superficial

[Anonymous No.10330575]

>>10330354
okay don't read what I wrote and keep believing the nonsense you've convinced yourself of. I'm sure it's working out great for you

[Anonymous No.10330579]

>>10330193
It's well studied any time women are asked to judge men they never set the bar higher than 8, just isn't happening. Attractiveness isn't the same for men and women but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for women. You said intelligence and physical strength, both of which require investment and effort the way having nice hair does. We have meat markets online these days where you can get a good picture of how men and women act towards attractiveness, and being "Chad" will get you way more attention than a good personality will. I've yet to meet an honest woman when it comes to their true desires because it's not "a good personality and a steady job" until they're in their 40s and been through the college cock forest. Nice guys finish last isn't a saying for nothing, and it doesn't mean the over used Reddit style "nice guy but a creep" type either. These days the family man type gets used up women who partied and attention whored for decades. He's probably lucky if she's not cam whored on /b/ or had revenge porn leaked DESU

>Double standards for women to have standards
The opposite is true, or rather people want women to have more standards and stop being sluts. There's always going to be trashy women cosplaying in a bikini and high heels but they're exactly that. How common is it today to see a woman shying away from public attention, waiting til marriage to have sex and wanting to be a mother? The scales way out of whack. If women had more standards and the internet didn't provide limitless attention for not having them we'd all be better for it. Look at cosplaying now and in the 90s, these days it's more and more sex work and less to do with passion. And companies will White knight cam girls for their products and use them as promo material on social media.

>>10330336
Most likely but I can't prove other wise.

[Anonymous No.10330583]

>>10330579
holy fuck I forgot people like you still existed.

[Anonymous No.10330585]

>>10330583
I didn't forget people like you exist. We can see your camel toe from artists corner no matter where you are at the con. Soon conventions will become like furry conventions which are nothing but orgies and porn meets. It's going down the exact same path they did.

[Anonymous No.10330586]

>>10330585
>cameltoe
>im a man

hooweee

[Anonymous No.10330646]

>>10330585

Oh, you summer child. You think cons had no nudity or sex in the 70s.

[Anonymous No.10330664]

>>10330579
>>10330585
>Nice guys finish last isn't a saying for nothing
This is pure comedy. Never go full scrote lads.

[Anonymous No.10331170]

>this whole thread started with a group photo of a offshoot speedrun gathering

>>10330323
I missed those days. Hella comfy and at a familiar place to gather at, shame DC doesn't have something like that. Quality dropoff was like 2015 for sure, but it's not discord's fault. It's more of a cultural shift and simply old blood moving on with their lives.

[Anonymous No.10331315]

>>10331170
>>10330323
Is that dive bar still there?

[Anonymous No.10331356]

>>10331315
I haven't been since the last year ota was in baltimore. I would imagine it's still around. Do remember buying a whole bunch of orange crush on the last night.

[Anonymous No.10331364]

>>10330334
people actually think like this? lol poor guy

[Anonymous No.10331491]

>>10330585
>>10330579
I'm so glad I'm gay and don't have to try and screen which men are actual psychos like this.

[Anonymous No.10331911]

>>10326696
far too complex when we can just play gender wars like its fucking pre school

[Anonymous No.10331918]

>>10327381
>Spend less time on ur shitty boat or gun girl apps
Ouch...

[Anonymous No.10332086]

Why does /cgl/ act like female /r9k/?

[Anonymous No.10332096]

>>10332086
People are fed of with redpill/incel and coomer bullshit. That's all.

[Anonymous No.10332145]

>>10332096
lol I’m not into either of those and I feel like the women on this board would insult me just on the basis that I am a male.

[Anonymous No.10332260]

>>10332145
you can blame other men and their horrendous behavior for that.

[Anonymous No.10332264]

>>10332145
Then ignore like you would when some poltard spergs out, it's just insane people stuck in myopic worldview.

[Anonymous No.10332290]

>>10332260
Only a fool judges a person based on the actions of others.

[Anonymous No.10332305]

>>10321972
Plenty of gulls on /cgl/ seem to want entire cons to be female only spaces, and break out in hives over having to interact with male vendors or staff. I guess quite a few of you have had some negative experience in one way or another, but y'all are acting just as bad as the incels in some ways.

[Anonymous No.10333023]

.....can I get an invite?