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>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?

>Do you think this will last?

>What other platforms would you prefer?

>> No.10316934

>>10316931
>>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
I don't really use Facebook besides posting on COF and on Sales, so I can't say much. I know that a lot of people like to chat on Rufflechat, but, since English isn't my first language, I find it a bit tiring to actively interact over there. My country doesn't have a group or a chat on Facebook (or in any other media, mind you), so I keep my account over there only for that purpose (selling and posting to COF).

>>Do you think this will last?
Until Facebook is a thing, I think it will.

>>What other platforms would you prefer?
I know that blogs aren't a thing anymore, but I prefer interacting on them. I follow a bunch of lolitas from all over the world, so I like checking their blogs weekly and leaving comments when I have time. For me it's better to interact this way.

Instagram is also nice to keep on seeing pictures, but I don't really chat with people over there, I just like their pictures and occasionally comment on things I find stunning.

I wish we had something stronger and easier to interact than Facebook (where posts come with an expiration date), but I cannot envision that happening right now.

>> No.10316991

I like Closet of Frills as a platform for seeing what kinds of coords lolitas are wearing, and I think it's a good way to organise local comms and keep track of meets and events. As a sales platform it's quite mediocre, and as platform for discussion (i.e. Rufflechat) it's absolutely horrendous.

I agree with >>10316934 in that I much prefer blogs and wish they would have a revival. I'd love some recommendations of still active lolita blogs if you have any!

>> No.10316995

>>10316991
Cupcake Kamisama & Rainedragon are the only Lolita blogs I used to follow that still post. Emiiichan and Hello Lizzie Bee still update if you are into gyaru/himekaji

>> No.10316996

Anyone thought about starting a Mastadon instance? It seems better for conversation than facebook and less child ridden then amino

>> No.10317007

>>10316991
Here's my list!
https://fannyrosie.tumblr.com/
https://cynicalneoprincessism.blogspot.com/
https://gotadebaunilha.blogspot.com/
https://teaandmacaronsblog.blogspot.com/
http://www.auris-lothol.info/
https://cupcakes-and-unicorns.blogspot.com/
http://www.rainedragon.com/
http://missfiligree.blogspot.com/
https://bonniviwii.wordpress.com/
https://heartbreakcherry.blogspot.com/
https://your-other-left.blogspot.com/
http://rosenocturnalia.blogspot.com/
https://nefferinthia.wordpress.com/
https://saxon-blues89.blogspot.com/
http://www.auris-lothol.info/
https://stardustdreamers.wordpress.com/
https://josinemaaike.wordpress.com/
https://arieskitsune.blogspot.com/
https://shuolaihuachangle.blogspot.com/
http://thebloodyteaparty.blogspot.com/
https://annesinbetween.blogspot.com/
http://damadocerrado.blogspot.com/
http://rolisramblings.blogspot.com/
http://poppy-noir.blogspot.com/
http://www.artdunoir.com/

>> No.10317008

>>10317007
bless you!!

>> No.10317010

>>10317007
>>10316991
oops, forgot this one. One of my favourites!
https://ventovir.blogspot.com

>> No.10317029

>>10317007
oh wow thank you

>> No.10317037

>>10317007
This is great, anon, thank you so much!

>> No.10317299

>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
It's good for comm groups and organising meets with the events function, but other than that I really hate facebook as a platform. I wouldn't have an account if i didn't need it to join the comm.

>Do you think this will last?
As long as there aren't any other platforms that have so many people and allow for easy event organisation, I think facebook will continue to be the main platform for local comms sadly (or not sadly, if you somehow happen to like facebook).

>What other platforms would you prefer?
I miss when most people used tumblr, that was the hot platform at the time I got into lolita. It's a real shame the ddlg crowd had to fuck it up for everyone, or at least the sweets. I think tumblr's architecture would be really good for a COF-type blog, as long as the people running it are cool.

>> No.10317306

>>10316931
>>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
I don't really mind, but I don't like the fact that it's your real life personality stuck next to it. I miss the old times when you could choose a nickname to go by and have something random as an icon image. Now everything is too personal, and you have all those edgy kids trying to make it big and be "social stars".

>>Do you think this will last?
As long as Facebook stays the same, it'll stay the same. It's the strongest social platform currently, and the only one offering some sort of chat or organization, even if it is extremely lacking and unsatisfactory. The concept of groups is terrible. There's no longevity to posts of photos like there was in the days of LJ.

>>What other platforms would you prefer?
I don't really care for any of the current social media platforms. They all offer very little and only exist to gather data on us as users so they can profit. I would love something the encourages discussion. That's the main reason I even come here, it's impossible to talk with anyone on Facebook.

>> No.10317309

>>10316931
It’s probably one of the best apps for holding and planning meetups

>> No.10317472
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>why is facebook bad for communities
navigating groups trying to find past topics is nigh impossible, so instead of having threads to reply to, newbies constantly ask the same questions over and over, and repeat discussions where people repost their opinions like everyone has alzheimers and forgot we all talked about this last week, happens all the time. while more casual chatting in groups is possible, the layout is not meant for it and there are no channels for different subjects so it is a mess.

>facebook is bad for artistic expression
having your identity tied to your posts means censoring yourself for many people. without some level of anonymity (privacy, separation from professional life) it is discouraging for people to experiment and speak freely. On one hand it might make fellow posters more relatable, but usually it just helps dig for personal attacksnwhen people disagree with eachother. at least it makes it easier to find pervs i guess.

>facebook for organization/meetups
actually not terrible for this, being able to post time/date/location and pictures of the venue with a rsvp post is useful. the downside is that discussion page has no organization.

i miss old forums and blogs for the slower pace and more in depth discussion. while discord has sub channels, conversation is almost always a couple words, a sentence, or an emoji, for hundreds of messages. there's rarely anything but surface level discussion of the same few things, over and over.

>> No.10317481

>>10317306
>>10317472
I don't even know what facebook is good for anymore. Twitter is for single-paragraph callout posts and celebrity banter, Instagram is just for images, discord/skype/etc are super casual fast paced discussion, vine/tiktok are short clips for humor

The dumbing down of our interactions is almost frightening

Short video clips, short tweets, images alone, I swear to god my life is startinv ti feel like watching a Twitch chat fly by and never getting a word in

at least with have Reddit am I right??? :))))))

>> No.10317623

>>10317481
ok boomer

>> No.10317625

>>10317623
ok brainlet

>> No.10317628

>>10317481
>>10317623
>>10317625
Cringe

>> No.10317629

>>10317481
I miss messageboards, they were the shit. People actually put effort into their posts and content. Modern posting formats encourage the exact opposite because they assume people's attention spans are at an all-time premium.

>> No.10317632

>>10316931
>>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
incredibly stupid

>>Do you think this will last?
yea, probably. lolitas are stubborn.

>>What other platforms would you prefer?
Literally anything else. Discord is probably the best alternative.

>> No.10317635

Bring back forums in 2020

>> No.10317639

>>10317632
Discord is awful because people get kicked out for not being super active. So for those of us who prefer to lurk and read discussions more than talk ourselves, it's doesn't work.

>>10317635
Yes please

>> No.10317640

>>10317639
that's the mod's choice, anon.

>> No.10317654

>>10317640
Every single lolita discord I've joined does that. Do you know of any that don't?

>> No.10317657

>>10317623
>boomer
stop that

>> No.10317668

>>10317657
Ok boomer

>> No.10317669

>>10317639
>those of us who prefer to lurk and read discussions more than talk ourselves
Would you mind explaining why you would do that in discord and not here? This honestly baffles me.

>> No.10317730

>>10317669
I do it here too.

>> No.10317752

>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
Facebook is a terrible tool to organize a meeting

>Do you think this will last?
It will

>What other platforms would you prefer?
Whatsapp group worked wonders for our local comm. Easy do schedule meetings, easy to request changes/do changes, and even my grandma uses it on a daily basis.

>> No.10317796

>>10317668
>perpetuating casual ageism through an overused meme
you must be 18 to post here anon.

>> No.10317830

We all collectively need to migrate quietly back to tumblr. Instagram and Facebook now have terrible algorithms and Twitter's new tweeting policy is probably going to destroy the platform. It certainly will never be Twitter as it once was.

We mostly left tumblr over the issue we had with DDLG and the sissy/porn bloggers there. Tumblr's no adult content policy destroyed their communities and got rid of the already scarce and disgusting male populations. The time for lolitas to return to tumblr is now.

>> No.10317831

>>10317830
But there’s no way to have a group on tumblr. What about like, discord? Google group?

>> No.10317833

>>10317831
They actually recently introduced group chat, although jury's still out on how good those are.

>> No.10317834

>>10317796
>thinking a meme is ageism
Haha OK boomer

>> No.10317836

>>10317831
Facebook is good for groups and events and questionably businesses. Tumblr is something individuals who want to post photos or content should migrate back to because Instagram and Facebook have terrible reach.

>> No.10317848

>>10317830
Okay, but consider: Dreamwidth. Just reinvent the livejournal days. We no what works so why are we fighting it

>> No.10317849

>>10317848
*know sorry it’s early in burgerland

>> No.10317867
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10317867

I've always had a pipe-dream of creating my own lolita social network. Where there could be forums for different topics and substyles, badges to unlock to show on your profile ("Bought first dress", "Tried a new substyle", "Lolita for 3 years", etc.), a section to show off your dream dresses, your wardrobe, what you have for sale currently, an archive area where we can try to preserve the fashion's history, etc.
Lolita has always been best when we've made our own spaces. Our community culture is pretty unique and has a lot of trouble fitting in with pre-made social medias. And I feel like now more than ever we need a hub to bring us all back together, rather than being flung across different platforms.
It's always been above what I've been able to achieve with my current skillset, but I'm still learning, so hopefully one day I can get to the level where I can make it a reality.

>> No.10317871

>>10317867
do you have enough skills that with some collaboration you can make it work? we have our own auction platform and wiki system. it’s not perfect but we’ve always managed to make our own spaces when it’s relevant

>> No.10317873

>>10317867
Would you be interested in collaborating with people?

>> No.10317886

>>10317867
I would love for this to come to fruition, but I worry it may just get abandoned down the line.

>> No.10317903

>>10317867
That's a cute idea actually. You should maybe make it an open source project so others can help out as well

>> No.10317904

>>10317639
>Discord is awful because people get kicked out for not being super active.
That can happen on facebook too though. I'm not on any lolita servers, but never heard of servers kicking people for being inactive. why would they even do that?

>>10317752
>Whatsapp group
isn't whatsapp phone only? Or do they have PC support too?

>>10317830
Pillowfort.social is the answer. I've used it for a year now and its great. Its like tumblr, but it also has communities sorta like how reddit does.

>> No.10317916

>>10317871
>>10317873
I worry that due to my lacking skills, I'd end up lagging behind anyone I'd work with. And I think it's important for team unity that everyone's pulling their own weight, or else it leads to tension and frustration among everyone.
I'd feel selfish leading a project where almost everyone else would be more capable than me, haha. Nobody likes an "ideas guy".
So I think I'll keep quietly learning and building my skills before I attempt to get in over my head, and end up creating a flop like >>10317886 said.
And if somebody more skillful starts something before I can, I can always hop on and help. Anything made for the lolita community will benefit us, no matter what that is.

>>10317903
Open source is a really, really good idea. It lets everyone who's able to contribute do so at whatever time they're able to.

On a more manageable level, I saw recently that the Sims community was able to come together and create their own archive on Archive.org
> https://archive.org/details/sim-archive-project?tab=about
I bet something like this would be possible for lolitas as well. I tried searching around for lolita content, but it obviously just came up with results for the Nabokov book.
I'm not sure if having your own community is something that you have to apply for, or if you can just make one though. The website is a bit unclear.

>> No.10317919

>>10317848
Idk isn’t dreamwidth for role playing online

>> No.10317921

>>10317919
no, haha just the communities who are still on there. it’s just a livejournal style platform

>> No.10317963

>>10317904
Seconding pillowfort. You get 3 invites/week so people could just share those. They're anonymous too, you don't who shared the link or who used it.
Here's mine for those who are curious:
https://pillowfort.social/users/sign_up?invite=X09FlANbZWFlHF4GP-zpWw
https://pillowfort.social/users/sign_up?invite=wb3XTIlg47mulzQjqoTUcQ
https://pillowfort.social/users/sign_up?invite=l8Xxi3xZBaHjCYZaH42AEg

>> No.10317966

>>10317963
okay why not just a mastadon instance though with a large toot limit length? it’s the same deal and you don’t have to wait for an invite

>> No.10317969

>>10317834
>i'm parroting overused memes so people will think i'm funny!
ok, zoomer

>> No.10317978

why tf would there be boomer seagulls, just call them karens and get on with it.

>> No.10317981

>>10317978
grandma anons have my respect

>> No.10317995

>>10317919
Nah it's just the only comm still using it.

I would love to have a use for my personal journal again though, I only wish the lolita community went to DW

>> No.10318054

>>10317963
I just joined using your invite. thanks!

>> No.10318062

>>10317969
>this is the funny response, if you respond like this you're instantly funny
I can feel the salt from here, boomer-chan <3

>> No.10318068

>>10317978
I'll take a boomer over these dumb shitposters any day that's for sure.

>> No.10318071

>>10317963
Joined. Any good communities for lolita?

>> No.10318085

>>10317669
I normally just feel like I don't have much to contribute to the conversation, or if I want to say something, it has usually already been said

>> No.10318115

>>10317904
Indeed it is phone only. But the thing is everyone has a smartphone with an whatsapp nowadays

>> No.10318124

>>10317966
Mastodon is full of nazis though

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>>10317867
I thought about making English videos in niconico (jalanese youtube platform) and blogging on some obscure .jp site and only sharing among a close group, to avoid sissies and the general public. something to make it a little harder to look up and creep. i think a dedicated social media would be cool, but lolibook isnt the solution. you would have to come up with something more beneficial for comms, meets, coords, sales, wardrobe posts - all in one place, would be excellent. i dont think current platforms should be copied

>> No.10318131 [DELETED] 

>>10318062
NTA but this whole fucking thing is retarded and you're niggering up the thread.

>> No.10318132

>>10318085
you can at least say "i agree" if someone already said what you would've, to show that you are interested and supportive. the idea is frustrating that many people read your conversation and support you but you feel alone in a channel with dozens of people. participation should be encouraged. if you are entertained or helped by something it is kind to say so

>> No.10318272

>>10318115
Zoomer sported... A lot of millennials just text anon

>> No.10318287

>>10318272
NAYRT but I'm a millennial and I can't live without whatapp, been using it for so many years. Even use it for work. Most people in my country (Netherlands) don't text any more cause whatsapp is super popular, only the boomers that have no smartphone text. I don't know if that is any different where you live but i guess it is?

>> No.10318309

>>10318287
In the US it’s very different. Quite frankly only kids and poor people use Whatsapp here (or people communicating with those two subgroups). The poor people thing isn’t meant to sound rude, just honest. People use whatsapp when they can’t afford consistent cell service and have to rely on free public wifi for messages

>> No.10318310

>>10318309
+ i could see why it would be more common in somewhere like europe where people communicate across country lines more. in the us everyone is domestic so there is no reason to open a separate app just to message someone

>> No.10318367

>>10318309
Another murrican, I agree, whatsapp is associated with the hood and kids organizing fights or flashmobs around here

But at least within my social groups Line and discord are more popular for consistent communication than texts, texts are used more for work or communication with boomers.

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>>10318287
>>10318309
>>10318310
Wpp is quite predominant in my country, but here no one relies on free wifi (cause there isn't anyway). Didn't know about US' thing.

>> No.10318376

>>10318309
I see, it's very different where you live. Most people here don't have to use free wifi, even those cheap 5 euro subscriptions have a decent 4g bundle with a couple mb's a month. Which usually also includes like a 100 texts and 100 minutes. So you basically get everything you need if you want to use whatsapp and surf the internet. Most people, (even poor ones) have a much more expensive subscription though. I got a bigger bundle than that with unlimited internet and stuff. It's so popular here, if you don't use it it's considered weird. It's like the standard chat app.

>> No.10318379

>>10318131
OK racist

>> No.10318383

>>10318376
>>10318372
Yeah, makes sense. it think it’s mostly a matter of practicality in both cases. also when i say free wifi i mean like the public library or mcdonald’s, not publicly provided wifi. we don’t have silly things like useful public services in the us lmao are you nuts

>> No.10318387

>>10318309
I'm Canadian and I know literally nobody with WhatsApp

>> No.10318407

>>10317867
Brings me back to forums and online communities that existed before, this can be done I know for sure (functionality wise)...but the fact is that people don't use forums anymore. How is such a big community going to grow into this thing is the question. Maybe we can change Reddit or we have to start a whole new thing! If Lacemarket would go into building a community like that...it could be a chance!

>> No.10318409

>>10318407
>such a big community
Anon, we are such an incredibly small niche community it is laughable

>> No.10318435

>>10318409
nyayrt but as a member of an actual niche community, no, no we aren't.

>>10318407
>but the fact is that people don't use forums anymore.
This is also untrue.

>> No.10318452

>>10318435
I would love to know what you define as niche anon.

>> No.10318462

>>10318407
Maybe forums are dead in terms of the mainstream, but places like KiwiFarms are still very active. Forums are great for limiting the amount of repeat conversations. Discussing anything on Facebook is like writing in sand - the sea comes in and washes away all of the previous discussion, and we're back at square one re-hashing the same talking points again and again.
I think our ideal site would be a fusion of different existing social medias.
Have a main photo feed like Facebook or Instagram where people can post their coordinates, and you can filter by substyles, or search by tagged clothing item (ie "Sugary Carnival"). With RSS integration, you could see new blog posts in the feed as well.
A second photo feed specifically for brand updates, where you can specify which ones you'd like to follow.
Then forums for discussion, with main topics each getting their own subforum.
I definitely agree with you in that Lacemarket should be integrated, my main idea is that this site would ideally be a hub to connect all lolita-centric services.

Basically my main goals would be:
> Personal
Username could be tagged to denote your main substyle(s)
Page could be customized to show your dream dresses, wardrobe, Lacemarket listings, coordinate gallery (with tagged clothing pieces a la Lookbook), personal blog, etc.

> Community
Monthly challenges
Unlock badges by completing certain achievements (bought first dress, went to first meetup, etc.)
Usernames could be tagged with how many years they've been in the fashion (proof would be required, ie. showing a LJ post from 2005)
Area for newbies to be mentored by people who've been in the fashion for X amount of time

> Local
Private groups for local comms
When a user sets their location to X city, the mods of the private group will automatically receive a notification and can contact that person
Ability to arrange meetups, RSVP, integration with PayPal for RSVP payment

> History
Archival of magazine scans, videos, blogs, etc.

>> No.10318479

>>10318452
Without going into too much detail, a niche way of approaching an itself-niche approach to a video game series (with maybe a couple hundred members) would count.

>> No.10318483

>>10318462
This sounds like a dream

>> No.10318492

>>10318462
Modern forum software like Xenforo comes with the capability to do pretty much all of what you said.

>> No.10318497

>>10318479
Speed running is a larger category so I’m not sure counting the fact that you do it for one specific game is niche. That’s like calling the swedish lolita comm niche because they are all the swedish speaking lolitas

>> No.10318500

>>10318497
Nayrt but maybe they meant hacking a game in a certain way? Though desu I think having speedrunning as a serious hobby is more niche than wearing lolita

>> No.10318502

>>10318497
Nice try, but no. Anyway I don't wanna derail the thread.

>> No.10318503

>>10318500
Go to the general and look at the quantities they are mentioning for dresses. There are maybe a couple of thousand of us internationally tops. We are very small.

>> No.10318506

>>10318309
>>10318367
Huh, also a burger and never heard of these things. The only people I ever saw using whatsapp are foreigners, since I assume it makes it cheaper to text people in their home countries

>> No.10318509

>>10318503
CoF has 12k people in it. Even acknowledging that many are admirers/itas, there are also many lolitas who aren't using CoF to balance it out. The harajuku walk in a city near me was quite big and the comm in that city alone has a lot of people even though it's a small city.

I'm guessing there's so much saturation in the secondhand market that it's very easy for people to only buy secondhand brand (and taobao) which could account for brand production numbers still being low.

>> No.10318510

>>10318503
>>10318509
I wanted to add, I think all of this is moot when discussing options for posting/social media, as I've been part of extremely lively forums with much fewer than 1000 active members

>> No.10318512

>>10318503
China by itself has well over 100k lolitas. It's might be niche otherwise but not as a whole.

>> No.10318514

>>10318503
There are definitely way more lolitas than you think there are unless you think you have to post on social media/4ch and wear it daily to be in the community

>> No.10318528

>>10318376
Yeah like >>10318383 says with US cell service/general infrastructure control under corporate monopolies, like everything else in the US, good cheap plans like that don't really exist lol

>>10318506
That's sort of one and the same subgroup, in my city anyway.

>> No.10318590

>>10318462
This sounds good except the community ideas desu. We already know being in the fashion for a long time means almost nothing about your ability to style yourself or mentor others, it’s largely irrelevant. Getting what newbies would view as indicators of status for participating in the fashion irl is also exactly the kind of thing that would encourage people to buy trash and make trash coords. I don’t know why people feel like they need awards for wearing the fashion, it’s not a game

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>>10318590
I don't know anon, why do people participate in Lolita Challenges? Because it's fun?
Incentivizing people to participate in the fashion irl is exactly what we should be wanting to do.
Aside from that, trash people will buy trash items regardless of little fun doodads on the internet.
I would say time spent in the fashion does matter in regards to mentoring others. Gatekeeping lolitas-at-heart who've only known about the fashion for under a year and are itching to spread their "knowledge" to other beginners is important.

>> No.10318695

>>10318590
I think the badges idea is cool and would be nice to encourage posting, but agree the “proof you’ve been in the community for X amount of time” is kind of silly. There are people who are in the fashion for 2 years and know so much better than people who have been here for maybe a decade. It makes more sense to judge if the person is able to give advice or not just by quickly looking at it’s profile and seeing if it has enough recent well coorded outfits.

>> No.10318705

>>10318512
what’s your source on that figure? I’ve hosted multiple exchange students from China and they’ve all either never heard of lolita or think it’s cosplay

>> No.10318708

>>10318705
100,000 would only be less than 0.0001 percent of China's population.

It's a HUGE country.

>> No.10318713

>>10318705
The biggest lolita Weibo account has over 700k followers. Even if only a fraction of those are real lolitas, it's still easily over 100k.

That's weird, lolita is common knowledge there. Even the most popular singer there has a music video with a lolita in it. It's pretty mainstream

>> No.10318915

>>10318708
>>10318713
damn, I suppose it is plausible after all. To be fair my exchange students have all come from smaller cities up in the north while from what I’ve seen many lolitas tend to be in the bigger cities like Shanghai

>> No.10318917

>>10318462
Make it happen, please. We're so scattered nowadays, the only place I know where most lolitas post is Instagram and it's about as discussion-unfriendly as it gets. I'd love to have everything in one place.

>> No.10318935

>>10317481
>I don't even know what facebook is good for anymore.

Organizing irl interactions. Maybe try it.

>> No.10318967

we need to go back to tumblr.

>> No.10318972

>>10318967
I definitely preferred tumblr as a blogging/photo posting/even Q&A method but I still think it was terrible for any kind of discussion or community organization.

Personally I'm in the return to LJ/DW boat.

>> No.10318984

>>10318972
Honestly LJ is still a good platform. I don't see a reason not to use it. I'm part of another LJ buy/sell community that's still active and it works well.

>> No.10318996

>>10318062
>I am confused about the format here.
Really, I don't know what is going on.

>> No.10319003

>>10318528
UK millennial here, I don't know anybody (apart from much older family members) who text anymore, everyone uses whatsapp. It's very interesting that it's not the same across the pond.

It would be nice to have a streamlined platform with a good image to text ratio. I guess tumblr was the closest to that?

My fb profile has been dead for years and I never bothered joining any lolita groups there because the whole platform just gives off really negative feel, especially in the last 5-7 years.

>> No.10319005

>>10319003
nta but in USA whatsapp is very popular among the asian population outside of mainland chinese.

>> No.10319038

>>10318590
I agree to an extent, but I would like to have some way to verify that the person you’re talking to actually wears lolita and wear it decently well. My local comm has a discord and most of the most active posters either have one coord max (for conventions) or none at all. It’s like they compensate for their nonexistent wardrobe by being extra active in discussion and giving unsolicited, uninformed advice.

>> No.10319047

>>10319038
With a messageboard you can limit who joins with an application to filter out larpers.

>> No.10319058

>>10318272
Can you create a group with SMS?
If you schedule a meeting, the message will deliver to all your contacts? And the other contacts will be able to see and reply each other messages?
It is the group convo feature that makes whatsapp so appealing anon. The message reaching everyone in that group instantly and everyone can see and reply each other in real-time.
Sure you can use Telegram too. But compared to whatsapp, how many people use telegram nowadays? Also in whatsapp, people are always on-line.

>> No.10319071

>>10316931
>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
Facebooks sucks. Anything out there is better, specially if it allows for pseudonymous names.
>Do you think this will last?
Don't think so. Less and less people are using FB.
>What other platforms would you prefer?
Riot and Mastodon instances focused on lolita.

>> No.10319072

>>10317007
Great, anon!

>> No.10319073

>>10317481
We unironically need forums.

>> No.10319092

>>10319073
This.

All this talk of various apps is great, but the problem with them is that they automatically limit the number of users in your community. If someone isn't already a user of that app (whether it's Whatsapp, Discord, whatever) they're unlikely to download it just to join a lolita group. The same goes for sites like Pillowfort where you might have to wait for an invite or jump through other hoops to join in.

And for all the web-based platforms that are easy to join (Facebook, Tumblr, Insta, Reddit, etc.), they've been designed in a way that makes it impossible to avoid creeps and sissies.

>> No.10319093

>>10319073
>>10319092
The issue is just getting a good one off the ground. A good forum is self-hosted, which costs money, so that's the biggest hurdle. Otherwise I'd just do it.

>> No.10319094

Why is closet of frills filled with troons

Fuck off out of womens fashion AGPs

>> No.10319098

>>10319094
I'm fine with the troons desu, since they at least want to be women. Most of them pass and look unmistakably female, they just look like ugly women.

The real issue is fucking sissies man. They do it cause womanhood is "embarrassing uwu". Like wow thanks, man, good to know the way I was born is nothing more than something that makes you feel ashamed and also makes you coom. Fuck outta here ugly

>> No.10319127 [DELETED] 

>>10319098
Sissies are into womanhood because it's "embarrassing" but at least maintain that they're still men.
Autogynephiles are into womanhood because they're skinwalking fetishists, so divorced from reality that they think their festering wounds are at all similar to a real vagina.
Both are horrible and both do not belong in our community.
Brolitas who acknowledge that they're still men and don't fetishize our entire lived experience are fine, but those are rarer and rarer these days.
And I can only say this on 4chan because saying this anywhere else online or irl would cause "literal violence".

>> No.10319140

>>10319098
Sadly, the sissies just claim to be trans so they can stay. Dumb bleeding heart sjw's always fall for that kinda bullshit. Look how long it took for SF (I think) comm to kick out "Melissa".

>> No.10319142 [DELETED] 

>>10319098
I highly suggest you search #girlslikeus (or what ever it's called) most troons don't pass and wouldn't no matter how hard they try. There's nothing stopping a sissy from claiming to be trans because of how far the lunacy trans right activists have gone. It's better to take swift action against any suspected sissies before something bad happens.

>> No.10319154 [DELETED] 

>>10319142
>>10319098
the way to tell if it's a real trans or an agp is if they claim to be a "lesbian" or not. transbians are jokes

>> No.10319189 [DELETED] 

>>10319098
Trannies like Blaire White don't pass in motion. Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras manage to still look male despite transitioning young, and those three are considered passing. Hell, I was able to clock Janet Mock when I was still a libfem pickmeisha. The overwhelming majority of troons do not pass, not even a little bit.

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>>10318497
>>10318500
i know this is probably some crossboarding maleposter but i wanna believe im not the only lolita who watches speedruns

>> No.10319333

IIRC LJ had a feature that allowed you to tag users with notes that only you could see. I really miss such a feature on FB and would love to see it again on a different platform, if only to keep track of people who’ve previously outed themselves as lolitas at heart only.
I’d also love a feature that allows you to block and hide your posts from certain users, for the sissies that will inevitably slither their way in.

>> No.10319358

>>10319140
>Melissa".

Now that's some vintage drama

>> No.10319689

>>10316931
>>How do you feel about lolitas heavily using Facebook?
I agree with what others have said, that facebook doesn't allow for cultivation and rather appeals to everyone's lack of attention by encouraging more posts and repeat posts of the same topics.
Even in forums it is possible to read back through previous pages, which can be fun to see how the discussion progressed.
It's interesting because the way facebook and insta are set out is so highly based on the individual and their comments, that there are much less discussion threads that happen. Like, if someone posts a photo you have people saying "I like this" or "cute" or just an emoji, but much less actual discussion. Whereas forums have a lot more discussion happening.

>>Do you think this will last?
For now, but I think if a new hub were to be set-up and enough lolitas sign up, then it would build a momentum. Just the same way we all moved away from egl_comm_sales to lacemarket.
I think if that were to happen we would leave behind a lot of the lolitas at heart types, as facebook just makes it too easy to join random groups that you may only have a slight interest in.

>>What other platforms would you prefer?
I think anything would be better than facebook or insta.
https://web.archive.org/web/20060421180136/http://www.lolitasnap.com/
Here's a snapshot of lolitasnap from back in the day, and even though it had a basic format I think it would be interesting for anyone who does decide to create a new hub.
I like that it had a main feed, then everyone's individual profiles and their latest posts and comments. It also had a forum.
I am completely unable to code or web design so I will just continue wishing that someone decides to put in the hard work, but if it does happen I'd be happy to donate towards costs.

>> No.10319691

Honest question, why don't we just make an effort to migrate back to LJ? Everything's already set up, it's just a matter of using it.

>> No.10319692

>>10319691
Do you not understand why people left in the first place?

>> No.10319693

>>10319333
I do this with discord to remind myself to completely ignore the itas

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>>10319311
If you're referring to
>>10318479
(me)
I didn't mean speedrunning, but I am a lolita!

>> No.10319697

>>10319692
Admittedly... no. I assumed it was because of the rise of FB/Tumblr/IG, but now that people have gotten a taste of that and are sick of it, it seems reasonable to go back to where it started.
If something happened with LJ as a site itself or something then I don't know about it and I'm sorry for my ignorance.

>> No.10319702

>>10319697
LJ was bought out by Russia and started doing all kinds of shady shit, that's why people left. Pretty much only Russians use it anymore. Dreamwidth would be the better option is we were going for a journal format.

>> No.10319719

>>10319702
Okay but what kind of shady shit? They have more ads now?
If it's data mining then Facebook has already done all that, so..
This comes across as general COMMIE BASTARDS mentality. Not everything that's Russian is terrible anon, just as not everything that's American is great.

I think the move happened to Tumblr because it appealed to the new wave of lolitas. Then as everyone had Facebook and as it's had the longevity that other platforms haven't, we've all stuck with it.

>> No.10319728

>>10319719
https://www.dailydot.com/culture/livejournal-decline-timeline/

It's why the huge roleplaying community also left to DW. I wasn't in lolita ay that time, but I was in rp and I saw all this happen firsthand. It was awful. It had nothing to do with appeal.

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>>10319093
I'd pay for this but I imagine a forum degenerating into a nightmare hell if it got used at all.

>> No.10325233

https://egl.dreamwidth.org/

I mean there is a comm on Dreamwidth, although it seems dead.

I hated Tumblr as a discussion platform. It was so clunky. Really it just seemed to be a place to reblog photos and the SJWs were so set up over there it was uncomfortable.

>> No.10325367

>>10319311
I watch 'em sometimes, but I rather just play the game y'know?

>Any lolita here into gunpla tho?

I have too many hobbies to spend my money on

>> No.10325408

>>10319728
This was a great and helpful read, thanks for sharing.

>> No.10325414

>>10325367
I thought I was the only one!

>> No.10326555

>>10325367
Yes, but I made myself stop buying because I have no more room to display any of them and need more money for lolita