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ast thread >>10272646

/cgl/ Idol Spreadsheet (Recently updated, under new management!) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WtgRe5cjKIR0BYGhw9N8ahxChLqEFLbZIRbAazooh-o/edit?usp=sharing

Original Music Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfmgukQM2isUtJJZz1MY4Jn4zPcbl0wDU

Previously:
- Peachy Parade opens up auditions
- SIF happens at AWA and is awesome
- 2 members of Vivacu depart
- Starstruck adds 2 new members
- Keekihime goes active again with new original music
- International Idol Company @internationalidolnews is hosting a dance competition
- More groups keep getting added to HolMat's IdolFest lineup

For the starter topic, I'm grabbing a post from last thread that really caught my interest but didn't generate much discussion: does the distinction between an "idol" and a "cute performer" lie in idol culture? Aka, "The use of calls, wotagei, the relationship between fan and performer, chekis, badges, etc. at events, a combination of singing and dancing, the types of personalities of members, and more. There’s a lot of components that go into calling a person or a genre 'idol'". Do you agree with this? If not, what do you define as an idol, and how can overseas performers reach to meet that definition?

Featured Group: Auracle

>> No.10289693

>>10289337
For me an idol has to do two of two things right away
>sing and/or dance
>be themselves
If you’re simply singing or dancing as a preexisting character, it’s essentially cosplaying or just being a coverist. It’s one thing if you are a character you’ve created or someone else has created that you’re cast as, but that also has its limits and is a different story. I don’t believe things like having music or special costumes or events is important right away because you need a base to support you. If you have good stage presence and audience interaction, people will want to follow you. To do all this everyone needs to seriously practice the way actual idols do.

>> No.10289717

>>10289693
I agree with this. And I think if we are using the closest definition of Japanese idols(And even kpop), then wotagei and the relationship between the audience and the performer is important. You also are aiming to be something to be idolized, which goes without saying, but I see so many idols who get into this genre just hoping for a quick name to fame and not actually serving passion into what they do. Should we police why someone is getting into such a hobby? We can't really, but I think there are definitely qualities and/or things an idol does that make someone as an 'idol' a lot more worthy of the title. And that is shown through clear hard work and a desire to improve and not just settle for 'good enough'.

>> No.10290147

Where is the masterlist of odottemita songs? I need to find a dance for 3 people and I can't find it :,(

>> No.10290283

>live in an idol backwater that hardly gets mentioned in these threads
>local community somehow has a nice little following with some reasonably talented idol groups and wota regulars supporting
>groups organize their own little events outside of cons
>variety in cover songs, musical and visual styles, and even some kpop
>drama does happen but it is rare and stays contained
Occasionally I'll think about posting local groups here but I always feel like I'll burst some bubble if I do.

>> No.10290317

>>10290283
I think we're are part of the same community

>> No.10290335

>>10290283
Even if you don’t post them publicly, if they post online I’d like to see them.

Speaking of smaller communities though, once I left my old state all of a sudden a bunch of groups started popping up and I got really upset that none existed when I was there. I’d like to start something where I am but unsure about it.

>> No.10290663

galaxxxy idol unit AiDOLOXXXY posted their first MV「GALAXY QUEST」

https://youtu.be/G9EjuBA-nlI

>> No.10290711

>>10290283
>wota
You mean cringelords or incels you otherwise would shun. Entertaining these people is your goal?
Because let’s be real that’s all ““wota”” are if they’re not your friends or petty rivals pretending to be your friends.

>> No.10290746

>>10290663
What does this have to do with net idols?

>> No.10290840

>>10290711
Who hurt you lol

>> No.10290976

>>10290711
Are you like okay or something?

>> No.10291303

These threads tend to focus on North American groups a lot. Are there any overseas idols I should be keeping an eye out for? Particularly ones who can sing and also have a good image.

>> No.10291317

>>10291303
Amuse is pretty good, though they only sing occasionally from what I can tell.

>> No.10291516

>>10291303
Peachy Parade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIBf6So1HGY
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0qQtyld9aCKkIVAi35M3yA

AidoruJaNai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1IiNUTUoqQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Ct7Rgb-EWvdFjsr74cqQw

ORiYON:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lls2xhXj1w
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnPD1QNHSa1876HPsfUizSA/videos

>> No.10291825

>>10291516
Man, aidoru janai are so legit. They have some great stage presence and clearly practice hard. I especially like Emma's dancing. Also haven't checked out Oriyon as the songs they cover aren't up my alley but their vocals and expressions are so unique and engaging to watch.

>> No.10291851

>>10291516
Peachy Parade has much better newer content, I don’t think that old video really shows where they are now.
https://youtu.be/vA3FTRG9WnI
https://youtu.be/Qjbpy5V8TPA

I also think, despite appearances, Ice Qream is pretty good. I like their dancing at least, and they have a few decent singers!
https://youtu.be/h6xrgmWy_DY
https://youtu.be/gQ5aix8tKlc

And then of course there’s Seishun Youth Academy, but they have proper backing from a company so I’m not sure they really count..
https://youtu.be/Ym5wJslVwIA

>> No.10292295

Citrus Wave was announced for Holmat idolfest, thoughts?

>> No.10292299

>>10292295
Yawn as if we weren't expecting another love live group

>> No.10292531

>>10292295
They should just call it HolMat Love Live Cosidol Festive ft. Some Idols.

>> No.10292584

Did anyone else see this OIC collab cover?
https://youtu.be/pb1RYzetkrc

I think while some of the girls are cute and okay at dancing, this was pretty sloppy, and most of the singing is painful to listen to... I can see a lot of effort went into the PV though, would like to see another one with more polished dancing/singing.

>> No.10292593

>>10292584
The singing made me stop watching.
They couldn't find someone to mix that any better?

>> No.10292726

>>10292593

That’s not even a mixing issue that’s straight up not being able to hold a note and pitching.

I really wish people in this community would practice singing more if you’re going to sing. I rather have people just dance if dancing is their strong point or just singing if that’s your tea. Practice the other.

>> No.10292728

>>10292726
Don't like this mentality of not doing things unless they're perfect because it makes people afraid to try anything.
People only get better by trying.

>> No.10292731

>>10292728
i absolutely agree with this - but i will say in the case of this PV i'm kind of surprised this unpolished singing made it to a point in final draft and then was posted.

believe it or not, i really don't mind slight errors in dancing or singing - if it's not really distracting i can finding it charming in the sense of idols growing in front of their audience.

>> No.10292734

>>10290840
>>10290976
Do you like looking into the tiny crowd and seeing nothing but other LL larpers and incels?

>> No.10292747

>>10292295
>>10292531
My issue is that so many of the LL groups performing are brand new or have never performed publically. How are we supposed to know they're good enough to watch for a full show when they've only been posting Instagram photos for 6 months?

>> No.10292748

>>10292734
I hate bringing this up, but AKB preformed for a crowd of like 7 people when they first got together. I genuinely enjoy singing and dancing so I’m happy if someone watches. Unless they’re a serial killer or a rapist, I couldn’t care less who kind of person they are as long as they’re having as much fun as I am.

>> No.10292757

>>10292747
There are just as many new original groups that havent performed but were shelved. How is letting new love live groups perform fair to them?

>> No.10292797

>>10292584
This was pretty cute, their singing sounded alright as a chorus, and the dancing was mostly cute, some of them looked awkward in the group but fine solo or vice versa though.

As the anon who brought up American accents + Japanese pronunciation giving overseas idols a certain sound, I realize most have this sound even when they sing in English... which is to be expected I guess.

>> No.10292891

How do you all feel about the new COPPA/FTC related content creator issue? Do you think netidol/odottemita falls into made for kids or not made for kids? I think it's another one of those grey areas where it's generally not intended for kids but suitable for kids, and YT might screw us over with it.

>> No.10292921

>>10292734
You're just making me laugh now lol it's not that serious

>> No.10292922

>>10292921
These threads definitely make it seem like it

>> No.10292941

>>10292922
I’ve never seen any issues about audience until this iteration of the thread so no it doesn’t.

>> No.10292944

>>10292891
I think it’s oversimplifying the situation a bit. For one, I think it depends on what kind of content they’d make overall. A lot of idols go for the cuter side, which would be okay for kids. For someone like Jazi, it’d probably be not for kids. But if you have a mix of content, then that’s also the reason why YouTube has the option for individual videos vs a whole channel. I only see someone getting in trouble if they don’t tag a video properly or if an over protective parent comes in and sees something that wasn’t what their kid was watching.

>> No.10293015

>>10292891
Kids aren't the intended audience, even when the content is wholesome and family friendly. The guidelines they sent out to channel owners pretty much stated it has to be intentional content geared towards kids to be marked as such.

>> No.10293084

Bless announced they’re gonna be at Daisho Con

>> No.10293107
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10293107

hi I was wondering is there any idol groups that perform a song with instrument and singing? I was talking to someone a while ago about wanting to find someone who can play guitar and sing to perform at a convention (I play bass guitar and can kinda sing), just need some inspiration

>> No.10293145

>>10293107
Overseas no. In Japan the closest you’d get is BanDori if you’re looking for idols. Scandal is an all-girl rock group but aren’t idols.

>> No.10293158

>>10292728

I didn’t say it needed to be perfect, but at this point most of the individuals there should be able to hold a note. (As most of them as far as I’m aware has been in this community for a year)

If you’re going to collab, make a well thought out video with others you should be able to hold the same notes. That’s not asking for much that’s basic middleschool choir shit.

Live stuff on a stage I’m extremely forgiving and that’s fine no matter how the singing and dancing is however, if you’re making a music video I’m not. They can learn how to hold a basic notes and tone adjust, the bar shouldn’t be set so low for recording music videos.

>> No.10293174

>>10292584
There’s a few voices here and there that I think sound nice but the bad ones drown them out.. so I can’t even tell who it is.

>> No.10293232

>>10293158
Imagine if they wanted to collab to have fun instead of being obsessive perfectionists

>> No.10293234

>>10293084
Dot Bless or is this a new group?

>> No.10293244

Has Holiday Matsuri finished posting there lineup?

>> No.10293249

>>10293244
It's only a matter of time they post about another love live group

>> No.10293250

>>10293015
What is the intended audience?

>> No.10293258

I just think it's funny that Holmat let THIS group back in.
https://youtu.be/6FE7Qg1-9wo

>> No.10293270

>>10293244
Is anyone else mildly uncomfortable with mystic wish's holmat announcement video

>> No.10293281

>>10293258
What's wrong with them? They actually look in sync

>> No.10293285

>>10293158
Chill out anon. I bet you hold yourself to these high standards and are never happy with your own content as a result :> or maybe you don't even put out content and just come here to pretend you're an expert and whine?

>>10293250
Nayrt but... other adults who are idol fans?

>> No.10293302

>>10293270
What about it is uncomfortable?

>> No.10293311

>>10293281
Anon, half the people were looking at each other for cues. I hope they've improved since 2017 though. It seems sort of petty to pull up a two year old video. What group is this?

>> No.10293314

I don’t understand why >>10293158 is getting hate on this topic. This is the same concept as when LL groups post but complain about time crunches and not being in sync. You can have fun with something and still make a decent effort to be good. Especially being bigger names and in OIC, something better could’ve been produced.

>>10293270
There’s nothing really uncomfortable about it.

>> No.10293318

>>10293314
As the old saying goes, if you want something done right, do it yourself

>>10293270
They sound like sex phone operators

>> No.10293324

>>10293314

It’s cool anon, all I really wanted them to do was hold the same notes and match pitches but apparently that’s too much in this “community”( or really I should say the American idol community.)

>> No.10293361

>>10292295
Who the hell is that?

>> No.10293399

>>10293234
Is that how it’s pronounced? Why does their Facebook just say Bless...?

>> No.10293433

>>10293399
Mostly because Facebook wouldn’t allow allow them to have the period in the name. But anything they post or speak they say dotBless. I assume they took the idea from the series .hack.

>> No.10293465
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10293465

I hope this time they actually release something. They’re becoming boring.

>> No.10293578

>>10293399
Yeah.
But knowing there gonna be an hour from me makes me suddenly wanna go to daisho con so I can see this for myself.

But I also know daisho..... And daisho didn't have idol event before....

>> No.10293580

>>10293465
Becoming?
They haven't posted anything. I'm bored.

>> No.10293627

What the hell even makes groups, who post literally nothing, relevant at all on these threads anyways?

>> No.10293633

Squeeze are good at making themselves look promising but its been too long now that people lose interest.

>> No.10293637

>>10293281
Do you have eyes? if you call the 2 seconds that they do something together at the same time "in sync" you have a pretty low standard of being "in sync"

>> No.10293649

>>10293633
It’s a shame they don’t post much online. I’ve seen them perform in person three times, they’re pretty good. The members have said they’re working on self image issues and that makes me more patient with their lack of online content, but I’m biased as I actually have seen them

>> No.10293792

>>10293627
Because they had such a unique concept, when most net idols are the same. (And that’s not meant as an insult, I include myself in that.)

>> No.10293829

but why

>> No.10293838

Julily posted about her graduation as an idol in 2020 to focus on be
coming an artist. I feel like she has been one of the overseasidol "idols" that people looked to as an example and/or figure head for the community. Also why she is so harshly judged and ridiculed for her behavior and opinions. Now that she is hanging up her idol hat, what do you think this means for the community?

Upon her previous hiatus and step down from the overseasidol CEO position, it seemed activity in the idol community plummeted. As did the management on 4chan. Do you think other idols will follow her lead now that one of the figureheads have graduated? Or do you think the community will stay the same?

>> No.10293846

>>10293792
They’re also the only NC based original group, as far as I know, which is something, and the girls are legitimately adorable.

>> No.10293855

>>10293846
They're obese

>> No.10293891

>>10293846
They’re based in North Carolina? I thought they were further south.

>>10293838
Artist as in art or artist as in musician? I looked at the post but it wasn’t clear. I’m assuming art like painting, drawing, etc though? I’ve never seen anything besides her music but I’m excited to see what it brings!

I don’t think the activity halted because she resigned but because she was realistically one of the only ones who really motivated people. I think a few might follow her but it’s unlikely too many will. 7 years is a long time and I feel a few are in it for the long run and others just until they find something else.

The community is for sure in for a big change, but that now solely depends on who’s in it especially with people like Mosuri & a few others I can’t think of right now. If someone really amazing comes along, I do think it can shake things up.

>> No.10294063

>>10293891
She said in the comments she’ll still be performing, so I assume musician.

>> No.10294130

How was ANYC? Is it true that idols were cut out of the masquerade? How were the self run masquerade-esque events?

>> No.10294194

>>10294130
quite the opposite, the masquerade was 90% idol/dance performances

>> No.10294262

>>10293838
There’s still figureheads to follow as examples other than Julily. While it’s unfortunate it’s not the end of the overseas idol community.
Overseas Idols like galaxy girl paida are even actively doing activities in Japan.
Teyaberri is often hated on here but I even saw her group had a show recently on Instagram.

>> No.10294297

I don't know if anyone cares since they're pretty much nobodies, but does anyone know what happened to Macrocosm? They were a local group so I was curious about them, but they haven't posted in forever, even though they have this weekly story they're supposed to be doing.
Did they disband and tell no one or what?

>> No.10294303

>>10294297
Probably just looking for more staff. I'd wait until they announce something before saying they disbanded

>> No.10294352

Cherry posted a new video explaining her experience with Dream Stage. And basically, when she asked for a 90 minute time slot, she didn't think that was also including the set up and take down. Plus, they started late due to tech issues, so that's why they were urged to wrap up the show without finishing.
But, she will still continue with doing the event again next year and has new ideas for the next Dream Stage.

>> No.10294371

Starstruck's new cover/MV is out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBy39_iqAsg

>> No.10294374

>>10294352
That’s really fucked. The fact that they knew what kind of event this was and didn’t think to say “hey that includes set up and break down”? I’m glad she’s not giving up on it though.

>>10294371
It’s only slightly better than their first. I think they could benefit from more practice on their voices because they don’t seem too confident in singing at all. I listened to the original cover and it doesn’t seem nearly as rushed or quick as they do.

>> No.10294377

Vivacu uploaded their boundless dreams from AWA.

https://youtu.be/ao7BRqr0BSY

I’m glad to see that there’s some choreography. As far as I can tell, their pronunciation is okay and I’m glad they made an effort to sing in Japanese. I do think they need to work on the song some more if they’re switching between their voices (head voice, chest, and falsetto). They were fine until the chorus which means it’s too high for them.

I do wonder if Julily will stay in Vivacu though. She’s no longer going to be an idol next year and that’s basically what the group is.

>> No.10294543

I'm a bit confused because Ambiflora made a comeback and now Julily is saying she's going to be an artist. Does that mean she is leaving the group then?

>> No.10294545 [DELETED] 

>>10292584
In other news TIF’s MK is permanently stepping down

>> No.10294547 [DELETED] 

>>10292584
what does OIC mean

>> No.10294573

As a guy, how does one find a group to do dance covers?

>> No.10294593

>>10294545
Milky Kitty? Where did you find this info? I don’t see it on any social pages.

>> No.10294621 [DELETED] 

>>10294593
she hasn’t announced it yet

>> No.10294681

>>10294621
Then how do you know.....

>> No.10294685

>>10294547
Overseas Idol Collection

>> No.10294686 [DELETED] 

>>10294681
she texted it to some people and one sent others the messages

>> No.10294687 [DELETED] 

>>10294681
she texted some people about it and one of them told others now its spreading in secret groups on facebook

>> No.10294715

>>10294687
That’s kinda rude.

>> No.10294736

>>10294687
This exactly why I don't tell anyone shit outside my own group cause little brats can't be trusted with information.

>> No.10294743

>>10294543
Julily just made another post clarifying her graduation and future plans. She is still going to be involved in the idol community, but this time as an 'Idol producer'. And they changed Ambiflora again to Demonically Divine with a new concept that she will be helping behind the scenes with it seems.

>> No.10294744

>>10294687
so why would you post it here? that's pretty bogus

>> No.10294757

>>10294374
Ok but she didn't even think to ask or clarify for set up or sound check time?
It's just bad planning from all sides

>> No.10294770

>>10294687
Yeah congratulations you sharing it on here makes you part of the problem

>> No.10294772

>>10294371
Notice how they barely have any footage of the actual dance itself because it's obvious that's their weak point. You can have cool editing all you want but please have skill to back it up.

>> No.10294783

>>10294715
>>10294736
>>10294744
>>10294770
Why is everyone so defensive of this patronizing bitch?

>> No.10294789

>>10294783
It's not about Milky Kitty it's the action behind the situation. If someone tells you something that they don't want out, DONT EXPOSE IT??? It's just the non asshole thing to do.

>> No.10294803

>>10294687
No wonder she’s fucking stepping down. Little shit stains like you just can’t fucking keep quiet and create unnecessary drama

>> No.10294804

>>10294783
She’s not patronizing either but... ok.

>> No.10294805

>>10294783
What problem do you have with her? I personally like her and have never had an issue. Like >>10294789 said, the problem isn’t that we like her though. It’s how scummy it is to spread that information before the person is ready. Whoever told you shouldn’t have said anything. If Milky told you herself, you shouldn’t have said anything.

>> No.10294899

>>10294783
You are the worst kind of person. Please grow up, develop some empathy, and do something more useful to society than spreading secret info that someone trusted you enough to tell you.

>> No.10294939

Well Milky Kitty made an announcement post about it. She's not stepping away from the idol community as a whole, as she still intends to do live photography and such. But she is stepping down (as staff) from TIF and OIC.

>> No.10294956

>>10294939
Can you link the post? I can’t find it anywhere and I’ve looked at all her socials that I know of. I love the idea of the bigger names doing more behind the scenes work. It’s something that is needed.

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>>10294956
She's more active on her Twitter @nyaruchuu recently

>> No.10294984

>>10294959
Thank you. It really sucks that it had to come out like this instead of her own time.

>> No.10295037

>>10294959
what misinformation was spread if she really is stepping down

>> No.10295087 [DELETED] 

>>10294959
but thats not remotely true she was dumped and her ex funded a lot of her trips and OIC website

>> No.10295111

>>10295087
So it's only been recently that I'm checking on these boards again and I'd like to clear up this accusation. When the OIC website went online for the 1st year, all of the funds for that were paid out of pocket by me - which includes domain and hosting services. As for the 2nd (and 3rd year coming up), I created a gofundme campaign and received donations from the general public to continue keeping the website up. Nyaru had no part in any of the funding for the website as that was my responsibility so please do not make claims like that if you don't have anything to back it up with.

>> No.10295112

>>10295037
You asked..... See >>10295087

As for you >>10295087, you need to stop spreading bullshit. Seriously just stop.

>> No.10295113

>>10295087
I thought mods would perma ban you after your last few bullshit sagas.

>> No.10295114 [DELETED] 

4chan has gone to shit.
But Moot is returning and starting a discord server for oldfags only.
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>> No.10295128 [DELETED] 

>>10295113
is it bullshit if shes texting her ex this shit

>> No.10295129 [DELETED] 

>>10295111
Don’t you think it’s weird that a fake idol agency page with a few likes and 2 posts donated over $200 for the gofundme?

>> No.10295130 [DELETED] 

>>10295112
its not fake if shes texting people that her ex dumped her and that she cant afford to go places now

>> No.10295132 [DELETED] 

>>10295112
>>10295113
you have to be really ignorant if you cant put two and two together. she got dumped, she cant get money and shes crying she has to get a job. shes texting her ex who she hurt tremendously for help and money

>> No.10295133 [DELETED] 

>>10295112
theres receipts for these claims

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>>10295129
No? $200 bucks is $200 bucks, what's the issue with that lmao

This is sad... love how you're just trying to grasp at straws to drag someone down (/sarcasm). None of this is relevant at all. You absolutely don't know her at all, leave her alone and quit the vendetta.

>> No.10295143 [DELETED] 

>>10295134
NAYRT but they have a point. Who is this idol agency? Idol agencies don’t donate money especially that much. i checked what the anon was talking about and the only posts they have is from OIC and there’s 3. That’s sketchy

>> No.10295152

>>10295143
Formerly Mondai Society as they used to be one of the founders of OIC back in its former days. The person who ran it did tell me ahead of time that they were willing to donate that much. The gofundme page is still up if you would like to check who donated. Also, just want to apologize for saying "Nyaru had no part in any of the funding for the website" as I meant to clarify that she had no part in being in CHARGE of the funding*. I had full control and take full responsibility for where the funds went to and all of it did go into the website since hosting (siteground) & domain services (namecheap) cost approx $400 for a 2 year life span. Hope that clears up this.

>> No.10295153
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>>10295143
>>10295152
Here's a screencap just to back up my claims.

>> No.10295155 [DELETED] 

>>10295152
AYRT Who is Mondai Society? i havent heard of them before

>> No.10295158

>>10295155
They are a former net-idol composer based in Texas and was willing to assist with net idol services in the past. They are currently inactive at the moment. Here is their youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl6YrfQEQ_ZfLgUsy82Fr4w

>> No.10295166

I just want to say Monday Society was a pretty new thing when it happened. It happened maybe a year or two ago and a few soloists were under them. If you haven’t been around long then you wouldn’t remember but most people in the community do. They offered help with management, promotion, and like Julily said composition. They were even going to have an idol group. It was legitimate and the person running it wasn’t a fake or someone looking for a quick buck. It was really a startup much like any other big agency or OIC.

>> No.10295169 [DELETED] 

>>10295166
>the person running it wasn’t a fake or someone looking for a quick buck.
I didnt think it was for a quick buck but TIF donating their own money

>> No.10295174

>>10295169
Even if it was TIF, I don’t see an issue with it. If they had the room after expenses, I think it’s completely fine to donate to another organization you’re also apart of. Major corporations do it quite a lot both privately and publicly.

>> No.10295176 [DELETED] 

>>10295174
mk doesnt work though

>> No.10295185

>>10294573

The same way as the girls do? In fact two guys started the group that I'm in which has a mixture and I brought another guy along. So far we have 4 so it's not unthinkable. You just have to know the right people and get involved and show that you enjoy it, even if it means doing a few performances solo to get yourself out on the market.

>> No.10295188

Scrolling though Instagram and found a group based in NYC called Phobia that’s holding auditions for members. The concept is pocchari idols and one of their requirements is that you have to be size X or above. Now I’m all for body positivity, but groups like this in Japan and SK have not done well for two reasons.
>it’s a strange concept to base a group around weight
>members worked so hard they lost so much weight
You can achieve the same ideas without having all your members be plus size. This is coming from someone that is plus size. It’s a bad idea.

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>>10295152
I’m pretty Julily is a stalker. she sends friend requests to people she doesn’t even like or know try to be sneaky

>> No.10295267

>>10295202
Alright, this is ridiculous lmao. This will be the last I'm responding to this thread. If anyone has any other accusations towards people or speculations, I seriously suggest bringing it up to the person unanonymously. It's one thing to critique people and that is completely fine but it's another for those on here to say straight-up lies and spread false information. Again... back up your god damn claims. If you personally have an issue someone or a question about something, I encourage you to DM them. I also encourage people in general to do the same with others.

I send friend requests to people that I don't know well maybe because I want to be friends with them? I try to network with others simply because I like making connections with others. I don't do it to be "sneaky" and I have no reason to hold an ulterior motive. I already accomplished everything that I wanted as an idol by my own merit so there is no gain for me to do anything shady regardless. God damn this community is mad toxic lmao

>> No.10295447

>>10295188
I like this idea because fat girls are hot. I like plus size idols because I think they’re really attractive and am gonna support a group full of women I find attractive, just like the pocha idol groups in Japan I support. Beyond that, groups based around one body type is better than having extreme body diversity that might be hard to design costumes for or can single out certain members for ridicule by comparison. There’s nothing wrong with a physical appearance gimmick, it attracts people like me who like those kinds of things.

>> No.10295452

>>10295202
Fucking go do something productive, you sad avocado pit

>> No.10295512

>>10295447
Unfortunately, your thoughts are among the minority. It’d be great if everyone was welcoming to overseas plus size idols. I’ve seen on here where an idol could be extremely talented but people have degraded them because they weren’t stick thin. I do think there’s a fundamental issue when a whole group resolves around physical appearance. I do want to see what they do and how they profess but I worry this concept will be a hinderance.

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>>10295185
Thx Anon, guess I'll have to do solo covers in the meantime

>> No.10295623

>>10295188
Nah see I actually like this idea. When I was in a LL group I was one of two fat ones, and honestly the size difference doesn't look great in pictures. And if the members all get fitter and lose weight, good for them, they can be a regular group after that.

I mean, I agree that they may have limited mainstream appeal but let's be honest, no idol group really does and I think what they lose in "ew fatties" they'll gain in body positivity fans.

>> No.10295668

>>10295621

I'll be rooting for you! I know it's scary but it's the only way people will know you're interested.
Get chatty with other dancers and reach out for collabs. There's so many male/female duo dances which often get covered by two girls (one usually passing poorly as a guy) so it'd be nice to see the real deal. You've got this!

>> No.10295736

Yet another love live group announced for holmat aqoursfest.

>> No.10295758

>>10295736
It's the event organizer's group. Hopefully that's the last of it.

>> No.10295781

>>10295758

The event organizer is in a love live group? Explains alot.

>> No.10295796

>>10295736
They cute though

>> No.10295802

>>10295781
I don't think it's soley love live. They did Idolmaster one year as well.

>> No.10296092

Thinking about getting back into dance covers again. Do you guys think it's necessary to take formal dance classes (hiphop, tap dance,etc) in order to get into doing dance covers?

>> No.10296103

>>10296092
I think that if you have a good sense of rhythm and eye for detail in dancing, you can still make good covers. I see many self taught dancers make quality covers. But formal teaching definitely helps with attuning you to your own movements, and how to approach learning dances, as well as building your general technique.
Basically I don't consider them necessary if you're naturally talented at dancing, but they will help you improve no matter what level you are, and it can't hurt to try!

>> No.10296113

>>10296092

No it's not necessary, but if you did it'd also depend if the style of dance you learn formally goes hand in hand with what you plan to cover.

I took ballroom classes for some years and when I eventually got into covers I noticed a lot of stuff transferred because of the different styles I learned which definitely gave me an edge over my peers. It also meant I could teach the members in my group if they struggled with something.

It also teaches you the basics like how to 'dance big', finishing your movements and thus mastering timing to make sure you don't look sloppy or rushed. Also how to characterise songs with your face can be a huge asset.

Ultimately it depends on your eye for detail. I notice a lot of people who pick the first dance cover that shows up on youtube and learn from that without checking if the people covering it are garbage. If you learn from trashy technique, you're doing to have trashy technique and if there are more of you and the dancers aren't in sync there is no hope for you.

>> No.10296217

>>10296092
There is such thing as dancing incorrectly. You can hurt your back and feet from improper movements and landings. Its best to either take a class or two in something like hip hop to learn basics or at least research on your own. Your body isn't worth an injury over a dance. Otherwise, take classes because you want to improve your abilities and skillsets. You can be a natural already but it never hurts to hone skills down. Good luck anon!

>> No.10296429

AidoruJaNai【アイドルじゃない】LIVE マイライフ【歌って踊ってみた 】CY8ER (Salón del Manga BCN 2019)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjpg23T11NU

Wota Panel // Anime Festival Orlando 2019 // Performance Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAVhx_CQU6o

【Auracle】Dream Parade【歌って踊ってみた】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbme8uwaNks

LUVORATORRRRRY! | StarStruck MV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBy39_iqAsg

Tachiagare! [Wake Up, Girls! Cover]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo2XPmGnjiM

【ChiRi Girls x Michi!Project】Mugen Climax Dance Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jGl8KwP3Y

ハロウィン・ナイト (Overseas Idols Ver.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb1RYzetkrc

>> No.10296610
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Hamako is apparently hosting an idol showcase at a really small convention in Baltimore. I have no idea who any of these people are besides Starstruck and that one girl from Platinum Happy and that love live group.

>> No.10296623

>>10296429
You forgot one

Kuro Hime【黒姫】| Operation: Three Cheers! Highlight Video
https://youtu.be/R7mNJrq8bdI

>> No.10296624

>>10296610
Shiny Idol Festival kind of makes me cringe, but the lineup looks interesting.

>and ofc Hamako.....
Who are they?

>> No.10296663

>>10296429
I feel like this has been asked before, but since a good example of both could be found here:

Which would you prefer to watch?
A M/V styled video with multi-shots and closeups
or a still dance shot with potential effect edits?

>> No.10296668

>>10296663
I think it's a personal preference. I enjoy more of a dance shot because I like to see the skill and practice the dancers put in. You can hide a lot of that with fancy editing. Especially if you're doing a complicated dance, I like a good dance shot.
As for the multi-shot videography with close ups and what not, I think it can come off really cringey to watch depending if the performers know how to act or know how to organize a set and use a camera.

>> No.10296701

>>10295512

Being welcome to overweight lifestyle should never be welcomed lmao.

No one should be stick thin either. That isn't healthy.

But like come-on. This type of shit glorifies health issues, which is so stupid.

>> No.10296734

>>10296701
Literally this discussion helps no one and is just bait for derailment. If you dislike the premise don’t support the group. Don’t try to make a big deal out of it, we all know the sides of this argument already and have it almost every time body types are discussed in this thread.

>> No.10296739

>>10296734
As the OP, not bait. I do think it’s healthy to discuss it as long as people aren’t calling each other names.

>> No.10296767

>>10296610
i’ve heard of a few of the performers but apparently quite a few are making debuts at the event so that might be why. like the other anon said, it seems like an interesting mix of people.
i’m kind of sick of the same cutesy cookie cutter type idol over and over lol

>> No.10296792

In honor of Turkey day, which idols are you thankful for, anons?
Or, what are you thankful for regarding the idol community?

>> No.10296797

>>10296792

Thankful for the creatives in the community, the people who do art/graphics, the lyricist/mixers etc. basically the people that make groups look put together.

Without them it would just be a lot of people doing the same covers, wearing the same tennis skirts as uniforms etc.

>> No.10296804

melancholiaah 펜타곤(PENTAGON) | Beautiful COVER (JPN VER.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTP2lhsvOkk

>> No.10296825

>>10296610
Animore.... sucks.
I'd totally go to support them if it didn't coincide with supporting that convention.

>> No.10296833

>>10296825
oh, can i ask why? I was thinking about going but i don't want to be in the habit of supporting cons that don't deserve it.

>> No.10296845

>>10296804
she does have a really nice voice. thanks for sharing this anon

>> No.10296934

>>10296825
>>10296833
I don’t know if this is what Anon is talking about, but I looked into it and it has to do with. Ryan Kopf. Long story short, he’s scum, shouldn’t be trusted, and is banned from a few cons. Animore actually has a whole weirdly worded post about it that’s basically trying to say they’re only involved with him because of the free software they use and the fact that he built their website for them.

>> No.10296935

>>10296934
Forgot to add seems sketchy but I’m not too knowledgeable so maybe anon knows more.

>> No.10297044

sorry to like ask a new question but does anyone know how someone who wants to do idol stuff get their foot in the door? i think it would be really fun to try but i have like one connection and its not like im close enough to them for me to ask.

>> No.10297048

>>10297044
Networking with confidence is the best way to get your foot in the door. Joining networking or discord servers helps too

>> No.10297052

>>10297048
thank you!! do you have any networking/discord servers you would reccomend joining??

>> No.10297179

>>10297052
There's tons depending on what your looking for
>overseas idol collection
>194pro idol association
>international idol news
>guild for the advancement of idols

Anyone care to add to list?

>> No.10297474

>>10294194
Here's a link to the masquerade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0C5KRYYcq4

(17:10) - Kingdom Hearts
(19:13) - Vocaloid
(21:53) - Cardcaptor Sakura
(23:50) - Love Live
(29:35) - Love Live
(45:14) - Cardcaptor Sakura
(47:00) - Idolm@ster
(56:27) - Vocaloid

>> No.10297596

>>10297474
im@s group is pretty alright, good wong choice too, it's nice to see million live for once.

>> No.10297754

>>10297474
the vocaloid group at 19:13 was so fun to see. the video doesn't show it well but all of their outfits were suuuuper sparkly and well done.

>> No.10297952

>>10297474
The LL groups are disappointing. The Aqours group looked like a mess honestly but the Chika wasn't bad. The Muse group's Eli was so fun to watch that everyone else looked worse in comparison.

>> No.10298142

>>10297754
This was so cute to watch, those outfits are amazing too, I love when groups do sparkly versions of costumes

>> No.10298293

>>10296833
>>10296934
That's most of it. Also when I tabled there once it was completely dead and I witnessed the on site photographer being inappropriate with minor cosplayers and the con staff didn't really do anything. I don't know.. I just personally feel better avoiding this con, but feel free to make your own judgements.

>> No.10298385

>>10297952
Ive come to realize that most LL groups are an utter disappointment
I can't fathom why either, it's not like they have to create the dances or write any of it themselves.
Are they allergic to practice? (Nerves are ok but there's nervous mistakes and there's I just didn't bother mistakes that so many make)

>> No.10298424

>>10297952
This reeks of self-post.

>> No.10298446

https://youtu.be/TZgKl2lPAeg

Hey guys, it's been a while but we're back with another cover! Of course, conceit is always welcome, etc.

>> No.10298448

>>10298446
*concrit, not conceit!

>> No.10298463

>>10298424
I didn't even attend ANYC, much less know who the groups even are.

>> No.10298509

>>10298446
Since you’re a duo it’s a lot easier to pick out places you’re not synchronized, I would recommend spending more time together, if possible, going over how each of you does a move so that you can match up your movements better!
Also I’d try scouting for better recording locations, the outfits stick out so much and makes the already drab background look worse. I know it can be hard to find cute places to record but maybe try making connections with some store owners or something. Or you could make some simple decorations to go on a blank wall. I think just about anything would’ve been better than the location you went with.
I like the energy and the outfits though! Keep it up.

>> No.10298794

So Calina is leaving Mosuri. Thoughts?

>> No.10298852

>>10298794
Didn't she start mosuri? Weird

>> No.10298857

>>10298446
slim down your title a bit lmao "kimagure mercy kawaii girls odottemita dance video" is just borderline begging for clicks.

>>10298794
>>10298852
She did start Mosuri, I don't think it's that uncommon for leaders/founders to graduate. But she mentioned in the post she was moving out of the area come next year. So I guess it's better to just go ahead and graduate than to suddenly announce it whenever she moves next year.

Though, I do wonder who will be the new leader? Pengy seems like a good fit? Interested in seeing the direction the group goes after Calina leaves considering she was the glue that kept them together, and made all the costumes, too.

>> No.10298925

Greedy Calina: An Introduction Q&A!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNI5gd7L-w0

AidoruJaNai アイドルじゃない】LIVE くらえ!必殺!!ねこパンチ ~私達、戦うにゃこたん【レベル5】~【歌って踊ってみた 】わーすた (Salón del Manga BCN 2019)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp3qVlp6oAU

>> No.10298927

>>10298794
I feel like she's always been one of those idols who would just do better on her own instead of with a group. And I feel like while mosuri may be able to stay afloat for a little while, it will sizzle out. I feel like Calina gave it most of it's appeal.

>> No.10298939

>>10298925
I REALLY like Aidoru Janai, I think they have great stage appeal, costumes, and present themselves very well. Their singing isn't perfect by any means, and I feel like Emma and Brizza are the only ones who really sound good when speaking/singing in Japanese (the other girls just have really thick spanish accents coming through). Overall, I think they're an incredibly solid group though. I always like seeing their videos.

>>10298927
Yeah, I fear this too anon. Calina put in a lot of work into Mosuri, and without her I'm not sure they'll be able to stick together long enough without her. I do agree she is just one of those idols who do better performing solo.


Somewhat related, do you anons think there's no appeal in performing solo? There really aren't a ton of soloists in this hobby right now. I think idol shows like lovelive or imas have really pushed the "group" narrative a bit heavily and nobody really likes to perform solo anymore. It's all "auditions for xyz idol group" on instagram.

>> No.10298948

>>10298939
I don't think necessarily it's that people don't want to perform solo, rather than feeling like they won't be given as much opportunities to do so. Being in a group gives you a higher amount of appeal to an audience and venues. It makes a bigger show. And also, most people just find it more enjoyable to partake in idol activities with others rather than alone. It's really hard to motivate yourself and build an audience as a soloist.

>> No.10298976

>>10298794
Really sad. Mosuri was incredible with Calina and when she leaves it won’t be as balanced. I love Calina a lot and will still support her, but besides Pengy I don’t even think any of the other members stand out.

>> No.10298987

>>10298948
You got that right....

>> No.10298989

>>10298939
As a soloist, I can personally say that I don't really get much opportunity to perform as a soloist.

Now does that mean I deserve it? No. There could be a million reasons why I don't get picked when I apply for showcases, but I usually see maybe 4 soloists in a showcase at any given time.

There is also the chance that not many soloists feel comfortable being on stage yet either....
Also,I bet a lot of these groups end up forming probably to help combat stage fright. Think about it, it's a lot easier to perform if you have people doing it with you!

Pardon for the long read.

>> No.10299027

>>10298976
Maybe this will be a chance for the other members to shine.
>>10298939
Who are some good soloists?

>> No.10299033

Why is it so hard to make friends in the idol community? It feels like the only way to meet people is to be in an idol group with them, not that it's easy to find idol groups to join either.

Are there some other places like Reddit or Facebook that have places to chat with people?

>> No.10299035

I think the community lacks diversity in soloists. Everyone is going for a cute image and nobody has a super amazing voice, so it’s kind of boring. I think it’s off putting to those who want to do a more mature solo act.

>>10299033
It’s really not that hard. Follow idols on Instagram. Most of them follow back. Interact with them. It’s just like making friends any other way.

>> No.10299064

>>10298927
>working better without a group
True. Wasn't she the one who used to publicly complain about the other members of mosuri on her public Twitter?

>> No.10299065

>>10299064
Yeah when she realized they weren't as good as her and she had to pull all the weight. Lol Still don't know how you could be that dumb to shit talk your own members publicly like that.

>> No.10299081

>>10299065
Tearing your fellow group members down because you think you're better than them shows immaturity.
They've improved so much since they've started, and everyone starts somewhere.

>> No.10299105

>>10299081
I mean, I get the frustration. You look for people who you think will be a good fit for you and be at your current level. Then when you actually work with them, you get disappointed by how much you have to actually train them and they weren't what you expected. When you're a perfectionist and control freak like Calina is I know that must have been upsetting for her to find out, but you definitely don't just put out a tweet where anyone (including the member) can find it. It was a stupid mistake I'm sure she's learned from at this point.

>> No.10299114 [DELETED] 

Do any of yall remember when Calina was associated with a guy in the voice acting community that was outed to be a lolicon and ableist/transphobe?

>> No.10299119

>>10299114
Shit, just looked up the guy in question after a while and apparently he killed himself.

>> No.10299134

>>10299114
Who?

>> No.10299332

Somewhat late but someone posted AUSA's idol showcase and masquerade. FYI I don't know who the groups are so please fill it in if you know.

Showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFfF58MC3io
(1:03) - Love Live
(4:25) - Love Live
(17:48) - Love Live
(25:17) - Love Live
(40:14) - Love Live
(52:00) - Cover Group
//Looks like some groups weren't included in the video

Masquerade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x91DzTyLGuk
(18:48) - Love Live
(37:22) - D&D
(43:44) - Hamako Idols
(53:31) - Kamen Joshi
(55:42) - Love Live
(59:26) - Love Live
(1:05:43) - Mad Father
(1:10:13) - Love Live
(1:15:21) - Pokemon

>> No.10299336

>>10299332
Now that I think about it, the Mad Father skit isn't really a dance skit but it's really good anyway. Highly recommend~

>> No.10299348

>>10299332
damn that showcase was a shit show. none of the acts were good by any means

>> No.10299566

>>10299348
Good Lord, you're right.

There's bad and then there's.... This....

>> No.10299837

>>10299332
aren't those two of the members of StarStruck at the end?

>> No.10299974

>>10299837
Yes

>> No.10300289

>>10299837
Starstruck really are currently one of the worst notable idol groups out there, more than half of the members have years of experience. there’s no excuse for them to be this cringey, out dated, and bad. It’s impressive how consistently bad they are with their content, even though they put out so much compared to other groups. I really want them to improve.

>> No.10300488

Idk where that post went talking about StarStruck but I agreed with it. Idk why it was removed. It was a valid opinion even if worded harshly. They seem to focus too much on quantity of content rather than the quality of it and building actual skill. Sorry, but a bunch of cute pictures and video shots of you just hanging around isn't impressive. Let me see some actual dancing and good singing. Work on your craft.

>> No.10300528

Do you guys find the fact that Stastruck only sings in english contributes to their cringey-ness? Or do you think it’s just their skill levels? I felt it especially in their Luvoratory cover, that’s a song that just doesn’t work well in english at all and it really showed.

>> No.10300538

>>10300528
english cover is fucking noob tier. japanese isn't hard to memorize, practicing music is just about memorizing after all.

>> No.10300541

>>10300538
I think English lyrics are fine if theyre well done and are your own. Otherwise, it’s such a cop out.

>> No.10300681

>>10300538
>>10300528
This reminds me of Kuro Hime's video. One of the soloists sang a C-ute song in english, and it just didn't work. It's not that hard to memorize Japanese and I wish idols would just learn the song in its origin language.

>> No.10300777

>>10300528
Honestly I think I find their singing cringey more than the language. There are plenty of good utaitte/coverists who do English covers, they need to get some decent translyrics for a start and then probably change their intonation etc. to suit the song. That said Japanese is relatively easy to sing and I'm not sure why some people choose to sing in English except maybe to attract a wider audience?

>> No.10300832

>>10300777
I think maybe it's the fact that they're english speakers with an english speaking audience and want them to understand the song. From what I've seen, a couple different idols do the same so that's what I understood was the reason.

>> No.10300891

>>10300538
Practicing music is about memorization, but performing it is about conveying your feelings. I don't blame anyone for wanting to connect with their audience in a language they both understand. But it can still be done poorly - some Japanese songs have a cadence that doesn't mesh well with English translyrics. Starstruck's latest cover was a strong example of that. It's also important to write lyrics that don't just fill in the melody, but work in the cadence of English with stresses on the right syllables and in the right part of the sentences, that still convey the meaning of the original song. It definitely isn't an easy task so I think it can be as impressive to pull off good English translyrics as to just memorize the sounds in Japanese.

>> No.10300897

>>10300488
A lot of posts criticizing them seem to suddenly disappear from this thread. Someone from the group can’t take criticism if it’s not ass kissing it seems.

>> No.10300905

>>10300897
All of the members are known to backstab and shit talk behind each other's backs. Not suprised if it's them.

>> No.10300917

>>10300905
Get ready for this post to disappear too!!! wwww this community is ridiculous sometimes

>> No.10300925

>>10300528
the translations are really bad. if they were less awkward the english would be less cringe

>> No.10300936

dotBless posted the video of their Daisho Con show

http://youtu.be/eK3PY-ISgV4

>> No.10300955

>>10300917

I don’t even know why it’s call a community it’s not. It’s just a bunch of failed cosplayers/“influencers” trying their knack at this. At least the American idol community I’m glad im going to Australia soon. At least there’s no mediocrity and people actually genuinely want to make friends

>> No.10300974

>>10300955
Who hurt you

>> No.10301033

>>10300955
Good luck finding it to be any different anywhere else. I don't think anyone comes into this community not wanting to make friends or have a good time. It's the issues of different creative ideas, ambitions and motivations that cause friction. And that's going to happen ANYWHERE you go.

>> No.10301088

>>10300955
Isn’t Australia full of LL groups with a bunch of vendettas against each other?

>> No.10301137

【Re:Star】Lumica / Anisong IDOLiSH7 Tribute Performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwBStFrsRCM

Sub7 Starpop Live! - Lumicon 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IryjYOgQo58

Ultra Miracle-cle Final Ultimate CHOCOBEAM!! // SIF AWA 2019 [Song Cover] [Dance Cover]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3xH2E8XV7k

Auracle Weekend: Dream Parade BTS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VxBQZzmUnY

We are E.T.C. - Alex Pinku new group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJj2Ba03dNM

>> No.10301183

>>10300955
Are you ok?

>> No.10301186

>>10300936
As bad of an attitude as she has, you can't deny... Teya has the makings of an idol.
I have mixed feelings on this. It's a good concept, but the music is meh and all but two aren't very idol like. Nothing stands out with the two backups.
Teya really should just go solo if I'm gonna be honest.

>> No.10301196

>>10300974
>>10301183

No, I’m not okay I’m actually at my last straw with the idol community in my state( or area to be more specific). There’s no point in saying the people that fucked me over since it would just cause more drama.

>>10301033

I may not be able to escape it fully but I truly believe it’s way better than the American community as a whole. Nobody genuinely wants to uplift each other unless they are apart of their circle jerk or they can get something out of you. I just wanted friends that I could get in other avenues of the anime community. This community is worst than the cosplay one and that speaks volumes.

>> No.10301233

>>10301196

This whole community really is one big circle jerk, huh? I'm getting so sick of everyone continually shouting out another group just to talk shit about them the next day.

>> No.10301272

>>10301186
What does her having an attitude have to do with her skills though?

There are a lot of divas in both America and Japan music industries so if that’s what bothers you then you’d be disappointed.

>> No.10301291 [DELETED] 

>>10301272
There's a difference between being a diva ans being an absolute cunt.
Teya falls under the latter and she has a history and rep within the community.

For me, I don't really care how much skill you have, if you're gonna be an asshole (and not the petty drama we get among the overseas idols, I'm talking just flat out balls to the wall bullshit that gets you your own lolcow thread separate from the idol one) then you lose your appeal.

And before you ask for proof, just Google her name. It'll show up.

>> No.10301292

>>10301196
You're gonna draw the worst people to you with this kind of thinking and attitude....

>> No.10301296

>>10301291
I still fail to see what this has to do with having skills though. Even when I google it, all I find is her social media sites and no real proof that she has an attitude.

Has she done something to you personally?

>> No.10301297

>>10301292

No because outside of this “community” my friendships are fine and strong. At first I chalked it all up to most of the people in the community being young but than I found out some members are older than I am and acting like literal children.

Nobody can just genuinely support one another outside of their circle jerks, I stand by that. Somebody starts getting a bit of traction and popularity the same people who used to uplift one another change their tune. I don’t expect it to be rainbows and people bending backwards for another...but like I didn’t expect this.

People using each other, back stabbing, insecurities so high they can’t just be happy for people doing well. If you’re not kissing someone’s ass in a circle jerk good luck being accepted. The community parades itself from accepting new people, supporting members finally getting their break, and overall trying to have an image of innocent sweet kindness but it’s the exact opposite.

>> No.10301307

>>10300936
l want to like the ponytail girl but she's entirely too awkward. I hope she learns how to loosen up a bit and improve her tone.

>> No.10301332

>>10301296
I actually did explain but ok.

And there was an incident that exposed just how mean and ugly she and another idol were.

>> No.10301414

>>10301332
Then it must be between her and another idol because the covers I’ve seen on their channels doesn’t really say much. I thought you meant she sexually harassed someone or something like that because if that were the case I’d say skill is pretty irrelevant.

If it’s cattiness between another idol I don’t think that’s proof of someone’s attitude, it sounds like it’s just drama.

>> No.10301417

>>10301291

You really think people give a fuck about that? Lol then explain why Chris Brown still has a career.

>> No.10301420

>>10300936
>>10301186
>>10301272
>>10301296
>>10301414
You can stop self posting now Teya

>> No.10301428

>>10301137
Oof mosuri has some ROUGH singing

>> No.10301430

>>10301272
>>10301420
Definitely not Teya, but I’ve only seen bad talk about her here and have been curious on why it seems so vendetta.

>> No.10301444

>>10301417
Not the same anon but there’s a few reasons Chris Brown still has a career and one is because he’s a man. You can’t compare. If we had attractive men in the idol scene with a large female following that harassed a woman, you’d see the same thing. It happens in K-Pop and J-Pop often. If it were a woman she’d be blackballed.

>> No.10301445

>>10301444
I also forgot to add, but the treatment of females and the treatment of males is vastly different in any music scene. If you have to say “then why does Chris brown still have a career,” then you don’t pay attention to the industry.

>> No.10301462 [DELETED] 

>>10301414

I think the proof of her attitude is that she's catty enough to get into drama in the first place is what they're trying to say.

>> No.10301469

>>10301445
Then what about Ariana Grande?
She offended everyone in America years ago and is now arguably one of the biggest pop stars today. Why wasn’t she “blackballed”?

>> No.10301495

>>10301469
Not the same anon but I had to comment on the autism.

Ariana is not even close to the biggest pop star today. Even singers who started out in pop and transitioned to more R&B are still ranked higher than her. You really don’t pay attention to the music industry at all huh anon?

With that out the way. Stop comparing people in the idol community to professional singers in the industry. The fans that Chris brown and Arianna has are COMPLETELY different.

The idol community is small and for the most part everyone is fans of eachother there’s no forum on reddit dedicated to idols posted in this form with stans. The community is small and people talk yes you can be black listed I feel like that’s common sense.

>> No.10301573

https://youtu.be/kJmorBmcRJ8
Alex Pinku’s new group debuted. It’s alright but I wish the vocals and mixing were better. Do you think the community will get a strong or interesting vocal any time soon?

>> No.10301576

>>10301420
I'm definitely not Teya but ok.

>> No.10301578

>>10301444
Thank you for explaining because I wasn't about to explain mangoes and pop rocks to someone

>> No.10301838 [DELETED] 

lmao, I never knew this sadness existed. watching frumpy white women clomp around trying to emulate cute japanese women is fucking hilarious. is this what female autism looks like?

>> No.10301848

>>10296092
As someone who did formal training for quite a few years, it's definitely assisted me in idol dancing. Not only did it teach me the necessary skills for basic things like turns or jumps or rhythm, I also pick up dances a lot quicker than other members in my group who haven't had the training.

No, it isn't necessary, but it's definitely helpful imo. I feel like I can always personally tell who's had training and who hasn't, and those who do tend to look better overall in their refinement and sharpness of their movements.

>> No.10301865

>>10301838
Why is it that at least once a month someone comes in with this edgy opinion.

>> No.10301875

>>10301838
Don't feed the troll

>> No.10301880

>>10301848
Agreed. I didn't even take a full year of dance but just a class that was offered in my high school. I didn't develop the sharpness and technique more experienced dancers have, but it introduced me to the mindset that dancers have when they choreograph and learn dances. Now I'll always learn a dance while analyzing the lyrics so I can understand the intention behind each movement rather than thinking it's cute poses for the sake of looking cute.

>> No.10301952

>>10301573
The vocals are pretty rough on this but a group of two is much easier to clean than some of these larger groups. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Western voices are just so deep I think it's difficult to pull off cute vibes.

>> No.10302000

>>10301952
it has nothing to do with western voices, japanese voices are generally not super high pitched naturally either, the singers just take voice lessons to make themselves sound like that, plus a mix of pitch correction.

>> No.10302106

>>10302000

This.

Japanese voices are just as deep and it’s obvious the people who think differently are only using anime as a reference point . Most idols going the cute route raises
their voices when doing interviews but that’s how far it goes.

>> No.10302114

>>10302106
obviously japanese idols put a lot of effort into having a higher, more cutesy voice to an extent. but i really do think that most western women just don’t have that same physical capacity to learn it. when overseas idols try to sing in a high pitch they ultimately sound like a dog whistle if I’m being honest. no personality, no unique qualities, just a constant high pitched noise that hurts my ears especially when multiple people are singing with that same style.
I just wonder that if it truly is all about training and practice, then why do overseas idols constantly sound awful singing/speaking in higher pitches voices? guess the easy answer is they don’t try hard enough but idk if that’s all there is to it.
i wish more overseas idols would realize that if you can’t learn to emulate the cutesy voice properly, just don’t sing in that way. develop your own technique and style that fits your voice.

>> No.10302119

>>10302114
It's also a difference in language. Lol while it's more accepted and normal for Japanese girls to sound high and cute, it's just WEIRD and cringey for overseas to do it.

>> No.10302129

>>10302114

Being from the west have nothing to do with it. That’s simple voice training which is applied to singing and voice training. Voice types and vocal ranges obviously should be taken into account but I haven’t seen anyone so deep that they couldn’t do a basic cute voice if that’s what they really wanted. They just don’t research or practice.Will everyone have to focal range of Mariah if they ~just practice~, hell no but a lot of idols could do a basic cute voice. It will be just average and nothing special but it’s achievable.

Like you said tho, a vast majority of overseas idol don’t try or at least tailor their image to fit what they can bring to the table. It’s so unique to the idol community too.

Basic learning skills seem to be like a repellent. “Veterans” in the community still can’t do basic pitch matching, that the equivalent of a cosplayer not measuring themselves before cutting a pattern.

>> No.10302132 [DELETED] 

>>10302114
I just wonder that if it truly is all about training and practice, then why do overseas idols constantly sound awful singing/speaking in higher pitches voices?
Because of training and practice. You answered your own question. Not only that, but western music training focuses a lot more on what works in the west which is deeper, more clear and or sultry voices. There’s a reason some Japanese singers sound like they’re straining and it’s because the lessons are very different.

>> No.10302139

>>10302114
> I just wonder that if it truly is all about training and practice, then why do overseas idols constantly sound awful singing/speaking in higher pitches voices?
Because of training and practice. You answered your own question. Not only that, but western music training focuses a lot more on what works in the west which is deeper, more clear and or sultry voices. There’s a reason some Japanese singers sound like they’re straining and it’s because the lessons are very different.

>> No.10302225

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZubx6Szl0o
darling uploaded their Tokimeki Runners pv and its... not great....
At least they managed not to completely cut two people out of group shots this time.

>> No.10302334

>>10302225
It's like they're all constantly off by a second. Do they not practice together or something?

>> No.10302391

>>10302334
I honestly don't think they do

>> No.10302418

>>10302225
The editing is so bad. There's so many cuts everywhere that have no underlying motivation other than to show a different angle because it looks good(?).

I'm going to get really in depth into this for no reason so don't mind me...

The PV opens up with a horrible montage that goes so fast for no reason. If the cuts lined up to the music, It would have looked better. I feel like it lingered on meotashi a little too long, but that's my personal taste. The handheld camera is accentuated by how fast the cuts are and looks vomit inducing. Plus, they're all framed differently in each shot with majority having their heads crammed up near the top of the frame. It's hard to stay focused on their faces when they're moving all over the place in each cut. Bear in mind, we're only 12 seconds in...

The close up shots of Kanata's skirt and the boots really slog the placing. It's like they didn't have any footage there so they just inserted some random shots that look "cool."

The wide shot of them all dancing shows so much of the ground for some reason. I don't know why they couldn't just tilt the camera to show more of the building. The dancing is bad but I'm just here to criticize the camera work.

The three closeups of the groups of three just look bad. The first two shots had a consistent angle but the third one was totally off. I wouldn't have shot those angles in a different location personally, especially since the framing looks so poor.

Random closeup shots? Why?

After that point the PV gets better but more likely because we've now become accustomed to the erratic, nonsensical editing of this PV. The cut in footage does nothing to tell a story, but rather serves as gratuitous footage to show off costumes and give meotashi, diet shampoo, and erika face time.

And why is the thank you for watching slide at the end so dang long?

All in all, whoever is editing and shooting their videos is incompetent, but anyone can see that.

>> No.10302423

LIVE @ Anime Weekend Atlanta【Julily】Starlight Idol Festival Medley【ライブ】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q58QzAzdR0c

>> No.10302468

>>10302418
This was a very informative read, thank you

>> No.10302500

>>10302225
Yeah this was really sloppy

>> No.10302592

>>10289337
Is it bad that for a while I have been boosting the views and likes of the videos of some overseas idols not only by watching them but also by using bots ?
I did it as a sort of a "secret Christmas gift" becuse I figured it'd make them really happy, but now that I think about it... perhaps they wouldn't be happy about it if they knew...

>> No.10302624

【ダンズダッシュ!】 「嗚呼!!踊れ花吹雪」 【踊ってみた】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kml1Wx7TNXY

>> No.10302647

>>10302592
Fake success will never be real success.

>> No.10302707

>>10302592
Markiplier’s first channel got fucked up by a fan using bots and other means to boost the views and numbers. He wasn’t able to monetize through Adsense because of the ads and views. Please don’t do that... It hurts the people who are posting. If you really want to help them, promote them. Don’t fake them out.

>> No.10302747

>>10302707
Yes please just promote them and share their content if you want to support them.

>> No.10302782

>>10302391
It shows. Doesn't help that half of them look like they're dying inside or want to die during the close ups and smaller group shots.

>> No.10302787
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10302787

>big awkward white women stomping and trotting about to music made for cute, small, graceful japanese women to dance to
why tho

>> No.10302788

>>10302624
This wasn’t great but they’re getting better, at least. I just wish they weren’t all so ugly.

>> No.10302874

>>10302592
I think your intentions are good here, but it's not a good idea. Like another anon pointed out, you never really know what's gonna trigger Youtube's internal filters or whatever. It seems like a good way to accidentally get a channel shut down. If you appreciate the videos, a kind comment would cheer them up much more than a bunch of extra views with no interaction!

>> No.10302946

>>10302787
Half of the girls in Japanese groups can’t dance and look like basic bitches without makeup and filters. Hop off their dicks they’ll never be your waifu.

>> No.10302964

>>10302225
yeah instead of 2 people being cut off they now went for the "squint your eyes because everyone is so goddamn far away" shot

>> No.10303020

>>10302787
Fuck off with your trolling and delete your post again, coward

>> No.10303087

>>10299332
I'm worried for the Eli at 59:26, her legs are scarily thin.

>> No.10303374

>>10302787
proudasian back at it again

>> No.10303753

Ya'll think Mystix is ever gonna happen. Everything recorded months ago but still not released. Tragic really

>> No.10303804

>>10303753
I mean, I wanna believe there's just a lot of glitches going on behind the scenes but it honestly looks like they aren't going to release anything.

>> No.10303819

>>10303753
What's Mystix?

>> No.10303933

【Amaitsuki】 1フェムトの大空 feat.初音ミク【踊ってみた】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8_VBpkCBg

[Vivacu] Boundless Dreams [Live @ AWA2019]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svcRV7aNrqE

>> No.10303983
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10303983

Is there a database for idol producers that we know of? I'm having trouble finding one, or maybe I'm an idiot and just keep glossing over it.

>> No.10304058

>>10303933
The Amaitsuki video was a nice watch. I liked the editing and the dancing was mostly together. I kind of wanted more life from the dancers' faces and I think the costumes could've been more dynamic but that's nitpicking.

>> No.10304075

>>10302946

Nyart but it feels like there is a talent drain for western cover dancers as they dont have talented and people with potential doing jpop and idol covers. Instead we are left with scraps coupled with a reluctance to practice or cover other genres for an audience and inspiration.

What one considers trolling I consider a concern that I dont bring up because why bother with criticising mediocrity when you can look at the ones with potential?

>> No.10304271

Are there any overseas idols that dont conform to what is considered the norm of idols? I see meloncooliah is pretty popular with her alternative image and music but is there any other overseas idols that fall under that umbrella too?

>> No.10304283

>>10304271
I would think Calina is somewhat non-conformative since her image is very chaotic.

>> No.10304317

>>10304283
Calina is probably the most basic of idols lol

>> No.10305586

Might be a bit early to discuss this, but with Katsucon coming up soon what do you think about all the groups that are preparing for the masquarade this early? Do you think they'll all get in? What some of your thoughts on potential acts, specifically Darling going once more. What song do you think they'll perform?

>> No.10305786

>using your idol twitter account to post about politics
Why do they do this?

>> No.10305805

>>10305786
>twitter
You said your answer right there

>> No.10305807

>>10304271
why would there be? these girls aren't real idols at all, they're just westerners pretending to be. we don't have the same kind of music culture in the west for these girls to become any kind of popular.

>> No.10305821

Holiday Matsuri's Idol Fest
https://youtu.be/M3v3Kzv6Gyk

>> No.10305830

Holiday Matsuri Idol Festival 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3v3Kzv6Gyk

Citrus Wave Idols (Love Live): 3:20 - 12:35

Idols a la Cart (WUG): 13:25 - 24:45

Auracle: 25:03 - 31:20

MAJ(i)KA (Love Live): 31:45 - 38:00

Morning Sunrise: 38:33 - 49:45

Akihana Idols (Love Live): 50:00 - 57:23

Sweet Super Nova (Walkure): 57:35 - 1:08:40

Start: Splash (Love Live): 1:08:50 - 1:18:05

Mystiq Wish: 1:18:20 - 1:27:51

Loveachord (Love Live): 1:28:06 - 1:36:55

Triad Regality (TRIGGER): 1:37:08 - 1:47:05

Okashi Idols (Love Live): 1:47:15 - 1:55:20

>> No.10305876

>>10305821
>>10305830
Are these edited to take out what they view as "irrelevant"?
Because I really wanted to see everyone's intros and hear the crowd

>> No.10305988

>>10305876
Audio was connected directly into the stream feed for the cleanest and most accurate sound possible. You can hear the audience in parts where groups are singing though

>> No.10306014

>>10305876
They kept the only introductions that were done, only a few groups talked.

>> No.10306103

I'm so proud of everyone at the Idolfest. The idols were so nice to each other and supportive and man what a great atmosphere. The performances were great!

>> No.10306108

>>10306103
Aw if only that was true

>> No.10306109

>>10305876
Only Mosuri spoke on stage, all of the intros and audio are there.

Auracle was fantastic. I enjoyed Sweet Super Nova, Mosuri, and I liked Mystic Wish's new original song except for the rap parts.

Idols a la Cart and the love live group with the devil outfits looked lost.
Triad did not look in sync at all.

My favorite love live group might have been the first one, the six person LL group had nice videos though.

>> No.10306111

I find Yumemi from Danzoo Dash cute, and I'm not afraid to say it!

>> No.10306122

>>10305830
Mosuri made me want to kill myself. Seriously, that was the singular worst thing I have ever had to witness in my entire life. Is their image supposed to be acting like they’re on 5 different forms of drugs?

>> No.10306156

>>10303933
I disagree with >>10304058 , I think this video is almost perfect, and it was actually a joy to watch the group members. It felt to me like they're genuinely having fun. And that editing made it all the better. Best western idol video I've seen yet this year.

>> No.10306158

are we gonna talk about how damn high quality Holmat’s idol fest was tho??? like holy shit the lighting and background visuals were on POINT. I wasn’t personally there so I don’t know how it was behind the scenes but from the video it looks super well organized, it seems like the staff put in a lot of effort into making it feel like an actual idol concert and not just some half assed thing that was thrown together last minute in an attempt to get attendees.
why can’t northeast cons take the hint and put more effort into their idol events??? the ones around here are so lame.

>> No.10306164

>>10306122
Who hurt you

>> No.10306173

>>10306158
It’s a shame the quality of performers couldn’t match that of the event.

>> No.10306187

>>10306173
>>10306122
>>10306108

Here's your (you)

Stupid negative comments like this with no real substance don't contribute anything meaningful to the conversation.

Holmat idolfest was a good show and the idol community only continues to improve with each new big event. Stay salty that you didn't make it in or whatever.

>> No.10306208

>>10306187
Rewatch their performance and tell me again that shits normal or even enjoyable...

>> No.10306209

>>10306187
nta but the western idol comm is a sad joke, japan only has a community because they're japan
>it's a small country easy to meet up and gain local fans
>japan has a huge indie scene already for music etc. that other countries don't really have
>idol music isn't popular outside of cons/weebs

the community is literally not going to thrive.

>> No.10306212

>>10306208
I loved it the first time and all the times I've seen it after. Its entertaining and brings a smile to my face. They are clearly having fun on stage and it shows. I stan.
It's not for you but that doesnt make it bad.

>> No.10306217

>>10306209
Why can't people just do things for fun? not every idol is trying to make it big or go to japan.
You say there is no community here but idolfests in the US draw big crowds and more and more people join the scene every day.

>>10306208
The songs were very energetic and fast, they were pretty in sync, maybe the singing wasn't the best but it was entertaining to watch and their energy was awesome. I'd rather watch them than yet another LL group.

>> No.10306226

>>10306209
lol idol music isn't popular outside of other idols

Nobody watches these things other than other idols and their friends. You know why idols at HolMat got guest badges? Because the girlfriend of the con's owner is an idol.

>> No.10306234

>>10306226
Listen bud, I'm sorry you didn't make it in this year, but if you try being a little less salty, maybe you'll make it next time.

>> No.10306235

>>10306234
lol you're only proving my point by assuming everyone discussing idols must be an idol

>> No.10306240

>>10306235
Even if they are, why does that even matter? No one's looking for nation-wide fame, we're all just here to do our best and have fun and entertain the idol fanbase (which is pretty marginally large these days.)
And you're also proving that apparently idol music does have fans outside of idols if you're one of those people, otherwise why are you on this thread to begin with?

>> No.10306247

>>10306122
Mosuri was chaotic as hell and I couldn't enjoy it. I also didn't like their original song. It felt like a children's song, which was off-putting.

>> No.10306248

>>10306158
I did really love the projection touch! It felt like a Japanese idol concert almost. I hope others follow suit!

>> No.10306251

>>10306247
its almost like a group of weirdo college friends who do yellowface for a hobby can't write music!

>> No.10306253

>>10306251
how the fuck is this hobby yellowfacing you fucking retard

>> No.10306255 [DELETED] 

>>10306253
lmao you girls are doing borderline Asian mistral shows and you know it.

>> No.10306257 [DELETED] 

>>10306253
lmao you girls are doing borderline Asian minstrel shows and you know it.

>> No.10306281

>>10306257
i'm just scrolling by from the prop thread but this is an asinine take, some idol costume isn't Asian minstrel, are the people in the LARP thread Scandinavian minstrels?

>> No.10306284

Holmat idolfest was pretty well organized, surprisingly. If it wasn't, it definitely looked like it was from the audience.

The first LL group and Sweet Supernova were good. The boy group has been improving, at least. Mosuri is campy in a cute way. The rest of the LL groups were painfully forgettable and sloppy.

Auracle stole the show. They were amazing, definitely improved from their Metrocon performance. Mystic Wish was good in terms of dancing, but their vocals were not great. Hopefully next year has better groups if they're going to shove so much Love Live down everyone's throats.

>> No.10306374

>>10305830
Auracle and Sweet Supernova are superb! They must have been amazing to watch live/in person. Mosuri have great charm but I'm also not a fan of their original song, musically it's just not my cup of tea. Mystiq wish's was more up my alley and in general they seem solid but not as confident as the first two mentioned.

I think most of the cover groups have some strong dancers in them that can hold attention but if a few people look lost then the whole performance appears unpolished. I'm not sure if it's a lack of practicing together or nerves but it does let some of the better dancers down.

>> No.10306389

>>10306251
If you reach any further you're gonna dislocate your arms friend.
Calm down.

>> No.10306390

>>10306257
That's funny, I thought I was singing, trying to write my own music and dancing....

Seriously? Minstrel show?
Are you ok?

>> No.10306397

>>10306226
>>10306235
>Nobody watches these things other than other idols and their friends
>you're only proving my point by assuming everyone discussing idols must be an idol

Nice contradicting statements. Which idol's friend are you?

>> No.10306423

>>10305830
Aside from the weird backgrounds at times, HolMats idolfest looked pretty good this year.
I enjoyed Auracle and Sweet Super Nova's performances.
I see what Mosuri is going for, but personally found it to be too much.
Majika's video was kind of distracting.
I thought MW had solid choreo, but could use some vocal training.
IALC did as good as their usual.
You can tell Traid really tried this year but aside from the Gaku, I still think the other two look kind of akward in those roles.

>> No.10306484

A bit off topic, but what advice would you give to someone who practices much more than their other group members, but still ends up looking bad? I don't want to throw in the towel and say I'm unable to ever improve, but maybe I'm just not practicing efficiently?

>> No.10306487

>>10306484
I wouldn't say you're not practicing efficiently exactly, more like effectively? If you're putting in the work but not seeing results, you might need tutoring/specific critique. I had this problem when I first started dancing because without proper training it was hard for me to understand what makes someone good at executing moves.

See if some of the better members in your group are willing to go through your routine with you and give you some unfiltered advice. Otherwise maybe look around for someone online or at a dance studio/school to give you some tips. As discussed earlier dance classes are good for everyone.

Remember that everyone learns at their own pace anon and good luck!

>> No.10306611

Seishun Youth Academy: Live Party! @ 5'O Clock Magic Hour DIGEST (2019.04.06 Cultch)【青SHUN学園カナダ校】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA-pkWvyjzo

LIVE @ AnimeNYC【Julily】コンプレックス・イマージュ / Complex Image【歌ってみた】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyJeOAbpSFU

EIRA live at Starlight Idol Festival 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qHUdVEb5i8

Interlunium - Blue Moon Blue Ocean (feat. Junko) Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohecJ-hHgC8

>> No.10306636

>>10306484
Gonna second what >>10306487 said, it's time to get some outside opinions. If you can spring it or find free dance classes, taking those would be a good idea too because any dance experience of any kind will affect your skills at cutesy idol bops. Also keep in mind that everyone is their own worst critic, and it may be harder for you to see improvement in yourself than for others to see it in you. Don't give up, and don't be afraid to ask for constructive criticism from people who are skilled at dance.

>> No.10306664

>>10306390
Mosuri defending themselves on 4chan? Classy... Doing that looks really bad, just an FYI.

>> No.10306678

>>10306664
Nayrt but the original comment was about idols in general not mosuri

>> No.10306829

【ChiRi Girls】Instant Heaven Dance Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9NZBe2Rfps

>> No.10306877

>>10306664
Yeah I'm def not mosuri.... The comment was made at idols in general....

>> No.10306886

>>10306164
They did with their screaming and singing. I think they have potential, but the songs didn’t rhyme and they screamed 90% of the time.

>> No.10306996

>>10306664
It’s funny how pressed you are about mosuri. As the others said, the comment that was deleted was about how we’re basically yellowfacing.

What is everyone’s opinions on idols doing “gravure”? I’m using the term lightly because they aren’t really doing gravure more than typical basic boudoir photography in their homes. Do you think it’s possible to do actual gravure? Do you think better location, styling, and photography and editing will make it closer to gravure? Right now they all just seem like sexual & nude photographs so I’m not a big fan.

>> No.10307011

>>10306996
I think a lot of westerners in this hobby seem to think it's closer to patreon-tier soft core porn than what it actually is. Some gravure is implied nudity but its not very sexual, either. If they'd made it more tasteful and had better styling/photography and overall more effort put into it then I think it could come out quite good.

>> No.10307052

>>10307011
I agree. I don’t want to call anyone out, but Jazi and Poppy for example. Jazi does photosets and it’s seems like a lot of it is just covered but nude. Poppy photographs but everything she does has large sexual overtones to it. It makes me uncomfortable because it is soft core porn. Cute or fun shots are one thing but straight sexy lingerie is weird especially when they’re trying to be idols.

>> No.10307063

>>10307052
Yeah I can see that. But also I support whatever they feel they want to do. Honestly, I wanna support the viewpoint that anyone can be an idol as long as they're working hard. Cause what may warrant idolizing for one person may be different for another. I know we're in the hobby to be closely related to Japanese pop idols, but I kinda like the idea of overseasidols taking their unique spins on it. Idk if that makes sense? Lol

>> No.10307125

>>10307052
I remember I found an Instagram account that was mainly gravure of a bunch of different Florida idols and I found it to be a bit jarring, I don't know why

>> No.10307233

>>10307125
Was it suki suki boudoir? If so that’s Poppy’s page.

>> No.10307260

[IALC] - IDOL FEST - HOLMAT 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2yLhh1_BCk

>> No.10307262

>>10306996
I don't really care for it.
I like the tasteful ones of girls running on the beach or enjoying a fun activity without them trying to be OVERLY sexual, making obvious overly sexual gestures (at least in my eyes).

>> No.10307285

>>10307260
I missed their name during the con but they were so adorable. Glad I caught it here, lol

>> No.10307401

>>10305830
Auracle did so amazing! I love their costumes!

>> No.10308826

Does anyone know of any good videographers for music videos in the community? I saw meotashi asking about it on her story so I was curious since most of the PVs I've seen tend to be garbage.

>> No.10308840

>>10308826
I think that's a lot harder to find since you can do a lot remotely (composing music, editing videos, even designing and sewing costumes) but video and photographers have to be local. So a lot of people can only use the talent that's locally available. It would definitely help if you let us know what area you were in so people near you could recommend videographers.

>> No.10308997

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_g4RTmnncg&list=PLB-ERbLr2NUh5obVAohh7IKUQuIqdL25q&index=39

>> No.10309137

>>10308997
This only cements my hatred for the LL staff responsible for designing the Mogyutto outfits. There's literally no way for them to translate into flattering real clothing. Even the live concerts had to alter them dramatically to be actually cute.

>> No.10309150

>>10309137
Costumes and dancing cemented my hated for LL in general....
Those costumes are F U G L Y

>> No.10309441

>>10309137
Those costumes are ugly in the drawings too. I dont know why anyone would actually wear them they're so hideous. Though desu alot of the official LL costumes (not from the app game) tend to be really ugly.

>> No.10310313

https://youtu.be/k0UF68yciXc

>> No.10310314

https://youtu.be/zOHpYsbwuHU

https://youtu.be/xiEZyKCD5jE

https://youtu.be/969FaBlW17A

https://youtu.be/BrP3B67Axj0

https://youtu.be/3zHuEaBL6UI

https://youtu.be/jS9DyP3ZBmc

https://youtu.be/n38h0JmXwUQ

https://youtu.be/SB5hNCdtxvw

>> No.10310318

>>10310314
Okay can you please label wtf these are when you share them

>> No.10310324

>>10310313
>>10310314
Next time name these you fucking walnut!

>> No.10310350

>>10310314
>Cherry
Is there any particular reason Cherry can’t just post all her content on one channel like a normal person?

>Jazi
I have trouble listening to her sing because she’s rarely on key and can’t always a decent note, but I will say she always has good energy and stamina. I do wish she’d design for her body type more often clothes wise. Making the waist on her skirt a little higher would pull her costume together a lot better.

>> No.10310453

Yukibunns - Snow Halation
https://youtu.be/BlTMd9v_6UI

>> No.10310459

>>10310350
Looks like one channel has primarily japanese content while the other has kpop, which do have different audiences. You can even see the difference in the channel names: one with katakana and one with hangul.

>> No.10310472

>>10310459
I understand that, but people post that content on the same channel. It’s not as if she’s actually speaking a different language in either. Her main channel seems to be primarily vlogs and some other stuff. I see that the Korean channel only had one video until a few days ago, but logically have 2 separate channels for the same type of content (dance and/or vocal covers) is just too much. The audiences do overlap, even if it doesn’t seem like it.

>> No.10310477

Jenni Bon - Last Actress
https://youtu.be/1mpC00FFTRI

Jump Up Superstar - Hime Luka
https://youtu.be/oBdvVtCVPxI

https://youtu.be/vUQWfk83zXM

Barri - Angel Snow
https://youtu.be/YlhhZ5pP-dU

>> No.10310491

>>10310477
Please don't post cancer on this thread thanks

>> No.10310513

Moon - Love & Joy
https://youtu.be/YEQN31u43zg

>> No.10310574

>>10310477
>>10310513
Shitposting at its finest

>> No.10310590

I noticed a few groups did the same Snow Song Show cover..... any thoughts?

>> No.10310640

>>10310590
I think it’s a bland dance so seeing it multiple times isn’t exciting at all, especially when the execution isn’t superb.

>> No.10311187

>>10310477
fucking garbage idols. ~ eternally 21 ~ and Barri are both too old, can’t dance and are equally insane and delusional 30 year olds

>> No.10311339

>>10311187
Tfw people don’t realize how obvious their vendettas come across when they post months old videos and then personally attack the same people on every single thread.
Tip: this is the boy who cried wolf and makes people start to ignore anything negative about them, especially when your posts stick out like a sore thumb in threads where we’re discussing recent releases and con crit and have to regularly post reminders that this thread can be deleted for bullying after the same posts show up. If you want to critic them, post a recent video and critic them. Don’t bump a thread that’s becoming inactive with videos arent all recent and scattered from the same group then bump the same topic when no one takes your bait.

>> No.10311404

>>10311339
tfw anon is triggered. pretty sure they self posted but go off.

>> No.10311437

>>10311404
Whether or not anon is triggered, they have a point that applies to both vendettas and self posts.

>> No.10311450

>>10311404
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think unless the members never look at this thread it’s unlikely it was self posted. Posting videos of every one of themselves without prefacing why they were looking at those videos is too obvious. Plus two of those videos were posted already so that would be really dumb. They’re not good, but every time they’re brought up the members are personally attacked with irrelevant cheap shots and yes people notice.

>> No.10311452

>>10311450
Why would anyone bother posting videos from startstruck unless it was members themselves? They even have uploaded a 'fixed' reupload of a video in the past immediately as it was posted. Members in starstruck are definitely attention and drama seekers so desu it screams self post.

>> No.10311476

>>10311452
> Why would anyone bother posting videos from startstruck
Because they’re a group that falls under the thread’s purpose.

> They even have uploaded a 'fixed' reupload of a video in the past immediately as it was posted
Maybe because they were aware of it. Maybe because someone told them quickly. It wasn’t immediate either. It was about 30-60 minutes. We get it though, you hate them.

>> No.10311491

>>10311339
I just wanted to point out that this thread most definitely isn't getting bumped to the top since it's been auto saged. I do agree with you tho, had this been a new thread the videos would have been pointless. They reek of vendetta and anon needs to not do that.

>> No.10311870

https://youtu.be/tdSp22ilnhQ

>> No.10311871

>>10311870
Mirai Wish - I Do I Do
I think this is a really cute holiday cover, and it's a less common song which I appreciate.

>> No.10311881

Jenni Bon - Penguin’s Game
https://youtu.be/xvkN9CscqqQ

>> No.10312092

ETC - Platonic Girl
https://youtu.be/U0MqJz12Q3Q

>> No.10312470

>>10311870
Wow that was not that good. The girls looked so dead inside. It is nice that it's a song not commonly done, but it was executed poorly.

>> No.10312472

>>10312092
Alex really sounds like she's underwater.

>> No.10313079

>>10311404
Starstruck has so many real points to criticize. Please don’t distract from our actual discussion of what they can do to improve by making drama about self posting their bad content. It’s bad. Talk about why it’s bad.

On the topic of them, the way they operate is so dated. All of their dances, their costumes, personality, graphics... It’s like it’s permanently 2014.

>> No.10313664

https://youtu.be/cACuYq6i-Ko

After about a year, Vivacu released their first song. I’ll be honest, compared to the live video I’ve seen the actual recording is lackluster but I can’t tell if it’s simply because of mixing. In addition, the voices aren’t well mixed to each other or to the instrumental. I hope that later on it’ll be better. I was really excited and this is just kinda not what I was expecting.

>> No.10313768

>>10313664
You should post this on the new thread, this one is saging

>> No.10313807

>>10313768
Where's the new thread?

>> No.10315038

>>10313807
>>10312331
I think