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10253487 No.10253487 [Reply] [Original]

black shoes in classic & sweet coords that otherwise lack black: a lolita tradition? or a copout for hobolitas who want bright & pastel coords but cannot afford more than one pair of tea parties?

>navy or dark brown shoes are fine too, if there is no navy or dark brown in the coord

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>>10253492
does having a black bag make it more cohesive? or is that not necessary to follow the tradition?

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>>10253494
is it ok to have a bag of a different color than the shoes if the shoes don't match the rest?

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>>10253496
are brown shoes more acceptable to mismatch with a coord than black?

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>>10253503
is it better if your legwear combines the softer colors of the coord with the dark harshness of the shoes?

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>>10253507
is it ok if the legwear is just all dark?

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>>10253510
of course, Alice coords have influenced the aesthetic of the light coord with black shoes.

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>>10253511
a more loosely-interpreted casual Alice coord with black shoes

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>>10253521
>tfw the doll's shoes match her coord but yours don't

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>>10253529
another Alice interpretation

>> No.10253532

Are you trying to prove something, or what?

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>>10253531
dark brown is not as striking as black, but still seems to flaunt most coord "rules" about matching shades

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>>10253532
just sharing & wondering

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>> No.10253544

>>10253494
Cute bag! But the cut out shapes and red really make it a complete fail besides the black. Black just doesn't work even with the shoes.

>> No.10253545

Good god, this is one of the longest and full of newfags summer ever

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>>10253546

>>10253544
it seems to work better in simpler coords, i think. if the coord has a more historic silhouette, it recalls times when it was fine to wear black shoes with a light dress, maybe.

>> No.10253549

>>10253496
Imo, the style should be taken into account. The basket makes it look like a Victorian picnic outing; so the basket works. It is now the shoes that are throwing the coord off and should be changed to match the dress.

>> No.10253552

>>10253498
If this is beige or off white then a softer brown could be used with a matching bag or even parasol. But as it is the brown shoes are a bit jarring.

>> No.10253553

>>10253499
Brown shoes could have worked to match the brown ribbon ties. Black doesn't belong in this coord.

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>>10253548
in keeping with the historic influence, i think simple classic coords work best with "mismatched" dark shoes. or it may be that pic related is just very pretty so it looks good on her.

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>>10253556

>> No.10253559

>>10253504
Beautiful tight and dress combination. But the black is still too stark, it doesn't work. A burgundy shoe might though if that is the color on the tights.

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>>10253558

>> No.10253562

Imo it looks fine to me if the hair (or skin!) dark too. Dark on both ends wrap up the light color in the middle.

>> No.10253563

>>10253512
Definitely not. The shoes on the doll in the print are white, if they had been black maybe. Just too strong a clash with a subdued color palette.

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>>10253561
oldschool Alice seems to require black shoes.

>> No.10253565

>>10253558
Don't be rude, she might be wearing these shoes because that's all she could carry in her escape from Area 51

>> No.10253567

>>10253514
This reminds me of Lovely Lor's shoe selection at times. Just f'ng no on color and style.

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>>10253564

>>10253562
i have noticed it looks better if the lolita herself has black prominently. since i mostly browse Japanese tags, black hair is common. it may help balance the coord.

>> No.10253569

>>10253516
The black shoes keep this coord from reaching it's best potential. A shoe color that matched the bows would have been best.

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>>10253568

>>10253565
kek

>> No.10253572

>>10253517
I say these work. The brown shoes and the straw hat with them being outdoors for a walk. With the people in the background looks like an event going on. So comfortable walking shoes was appropriate.

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loving the feedback, gulls

>>10253573

>> No.10253575

>>10253520
Gosh no. That Alice in wonderland print on the bag make it a coord clash. The black shoes just add to the calamity.

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>>10253574

>> No.10253577

>>10253526
Green is a hard color to coordinate. I give this a pass because it is a slightly dark green.

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>>10253578
that coord's shoes MIGHT be navy but it looks black to me, which i personally feel is a risky choice with navy.

>> No.10253582

>>10253535
Imo, beige and brown are fine. The dark brown on the Usakumya make it a bit cohesive.

>> No.10253583

>>10253543
For me, this works because it's a deep red with off white stockings. Then she has the black purse and choker to balance the black shoes out to blend better.

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>> No.10253586

>>10253563
>the shoes on the doll in the print are white
..I don't see the shoes on the doll in the print, they're cropped out in a frame..

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>>10253487
>she doesn't know the struggle of finding matching shoes for sweet when lolita companies didn't ship to the u.s.
you need to brush up on your lolita history.

>> No.10253610

I think this looks best on girls with black hair. Otherwise, I think dark brown/black/navy shoes are fine in classic coords so long as the color picked compliments the color palette of the rest of the coord. Doing a blue and white coord? Navy's fine. Earth tones and soft greens and pinks? Dark brown. Grays and white? Black.
The "Alice" look of blue and black shoes comes off as cartoony but that feels a bit like the point in those cases.

>> No.10253612

>>10253610
Meant to add, I feel like attempting to shoehorn the shoes in with just a bag kinda of throws it off in my opinion. Like you half committed to working the color in.

>> No.10253615

This thread just proves to me that Asians don't care about your precious gaijin rurus

>> No.10253676

>>10253615
The fashion is based upon Western styles. Victorian is Western. Therefore Western rules apply.

>> No.10253692

>>10253676
lol keep dreaming

>> No.10253707

This is the most newfag thread. What has cgl become

>> No.10253709

Style matters more than colour.
If shoes can't be matched to clothes, then they can be matched to something arbitrary, like handbag using similar material (leather, PU). If not, aim at hair colour in the range of blacks and browns.
Some colors are universal and ubiquitous.

Seriously, matching shoes is more than just colour and matching colour doesn't mean similar, it can be complimentary or even contrasting, as long as it looks good. No rules will ever replicate good judgement.
>>10253509
This looks good.
>>10253512
These shoes look like boats on her.
>>10253518
In this style the shoes would look better in dark brown, with a bit of reddish tint, like her hair.
>>10253546
The shoes look too heavy for this coord.
>>10253558
Love it. The shoes are perfect fit for the look she's aiming at.

>> No.10253712

>>10253615
Not just Asians, plenty of Westerners don't give a shit about what some summer/newfag thinks either.
>>10253676
Victorians mostly wore brown and black shoes with their coords. Bye.

>> No.10253726

>>10253707
every reply matters, even yours

>> No.10253732

>>10253518
Shoes are the least of her problems. Needs to take care of them wrinkled OP and limp underskirt first.

>> No.10253734

>>10253498
Wtf is your problem, have you never heard of neutrals before? They are not "mismatched"

>> No.10253736

>>10253554
You are so retarded it hurts. Please come back when you learn how to dress yourself like an adult

>> No.10253741 [DELETED] 

kys summerfag

>> No.10253751

>>10253576

Ugh I'll give my soul to have this dress in any color.

>> No.10253779
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Congratulations on making the stupidest retarded thread of all summer

You're the Summer Queen

>> No.10253787

>>10253503
For some coords i'd argue that the shoes are matching the hair color

>> No.10253808

ITT: Newfag tries to justify having only one pair of shoes

>> No.10253821

someone please kill this fucking thread

>> No.10253825

>>10253808
Lol you're reaching

I disagree wirh all of the above. Dressing yourself like an adult means not wearing matchy matchy shoes with your coord. Wearing shoes because they flatter a coord and is a neutral color.

Great thread!

>> No.10253829

>>10253564
This isn't old school newfag

>> No.10253830

Do lolitas not realize it’s normal to not exactly match your shoes with your dress

>> No.10253832

>>10253830
>Do sweet lolitas
There friend, fixed it for you <3

>> No.10253833

>>10253832
I wear sweet so I don’t know what you’re trying to get at?

>> No.10253835

>>10253833
woosh

>> No.10253841

>>10253562
>>10253610
Would you say the same if I wear light yellow or beige shoes with gothic lolita because my hair is light blonde?

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>>10253487
I think it's the historical influence, and all my dolls also had black shoes when I was a kid. Of course Alice is also a famous example. I guess coloured shoes were harder to find back then, and black shoes look less dirty when you have to walk on a mud path back when they didn't have concrete roads everywhere.

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>> No.10253852

>>10253849
also, I feel like I heard somewhere that colorful shoes has been viewed as something indecent and what only cocottes would wear.

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>>10253853

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>>10253853
Misako also wears black tights or leggings often, and her hair is brown

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>>10253849
School uniforms also had/have black shoes.

>> No.10253876

>>10253841
completely different color weight, so no. white would work if your hair is light enough but it still wouldn't be the same.

>> No.10253885

>>10253835
based

>> No.10253891

Retarded summerfag or troll?
We'll never know

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>>10253779
Grammar error on the award plaque. So you now need another trophy, one for yourself.

>> No.10253925

>>10253487
>inexplicable
If you look at it strictly from a colour point of view, maybe. But in cases where it works, I find it’s because there is a relationship whether it be in terms of value balance or theme.

>> No.10253934

>>10253832
desu the majority of gulls wear classic based on previous surveys, so it’s more likely the anons bitching are classic not sweet

>> No.10253935

>>10253920
anon r u ok

>> No.10253941

>>10253920
the joke is that it's spelled wrong.

>> No.10254066

>>10253920
>Retarded enough to bitch about black shoes
>Retarded enought to not get that obvious joke
The trophy is definitely yours

>> No.10254187

>>10253712
>Victorians
>Coords

Anyways I really like black shoes with non-black coords, it gives it a more authentic vibe and streetstyle-like look.

>> No.10254208

>>10253934
Nothing is worse than classic coorded by a sweet. No, your red TPs don't match your burgundy MM replica, and even if they were bungundy it would look stupid compared to neutral shoes

>> No.10258235

>>10253487
wearings shoes that are exactly the same color as your coord is autistic

>> No.10258505

>>10253513
>>10253509
>>10253526
>>10253537
>>10253568

Great examples of balancing shoe and hair color. I think it almost always works with natural looking hair colors, but as >>10253876 mentioned it can be trickier with blonde. I'm a strawberry blonde and like to match my pastels/whites with tan shade shoes, but red, black, cherry pink and other dark colors don't work most of the time.

>10253517
This is my fav. The attention to cold/warm tone of brown in their hair really bring it together.

>> No.10258506

>>10258505
I messed up

>>10253517
This is my fav. The attention to cold/warm tone of brown in their hair really bring it together.

>> No.10258706

in classic it's fine, bugs me just a bit in sweet. had to commit this minor sin the other day and it just felt off balance

>> No.10259681

>>10253487
Black goes with everything. Unless somehow you want everything on you to be one pantone color.