Confession Thread

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Confession Thread Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:26:33 2019 No.10204640 [Reply] [Original]

We have not had one in a while.
The Confession (1838), by Giuseppe Molteni (1800-1867)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:29:52 2019 No.10204644 My confession is that I think my local comm is mostly made up of boring people. If we did not share the fashion, most of us would not really have enough in common to actually be friends.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:32:46 2019 No.10204647 Idol threads do not belong on here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:35:46 2019 No.10204653 I follow titty cosplayers on insta despite knowing they hurt the scenes image with normies and most of them buy their cosplays and have other people do their wigs and makeup

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:39:59 2019 No.10204655 >>10204644 I think this is the case for most sizable groups regardless of the shared interest or hobby. Most people are pretty boring. You probably are too.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:41:16 2019 No.10204657

>>10204653
What makes you like them, just that you think they are sexy? I always wonder about this because so many complain yet obviously so many do follow and support them. I watched a few twitch streams and many of them seem pretty dumb and boring as people too. Is the titty just enough sometimes?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:43:14 2019 No.10204663 >>10204655 In other hobby groups I have usually found at least one person i want to get to know better outside the group. That's why i remarked about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 17:50:55 2019 No.10204673 I bought my dream dress everytime it appeared on the market because most of the people who are also looking for it suck and don't deserve it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:27:17 2019 No.10204710 >>10204657 They have better pictures than other cosplayers since they hire professional photogs and use Photoshop. I usually fall into a trap of following them then later on they plug their ko-fi and patreon in a story

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:28:59 2019 No.10204712 File: 257 KB, 700x732, 1555280592718.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10204673

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:32:17 2019 No.10204716 >>10204673 How many have you accumulated?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:35:49 2019 No.10204720 I've spent way too much money and my parents are starting to catch on... I hate living with them as an adult, but I love that I'm living rent free.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:50:52 2019 No.10204732

I prefer fatties in lolita to uggos. If you have an unattractive face, your coordinate is automatically brought down multiple levels. Beady eyes and lumpy noses just turn a coordinate super frumpy, and have no place in lolita. It’s a double whammy if they’re fat and ugly, just leave and find something more suitable.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 18:53:19 2019 No.10204734

I look through people’s wish lists that I hate and make it a point to buy the top priority ones. I also like to time my posts to be around the same time as theirs so I can relish in the limelight when I get more likes than them.
>I am that level of petty

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:00:48 2019 No.10204739 >>10204734 This sounds like a sad life. “Likes” don’t mean anything and buying stuff you don’t care about to spite others really doesn’t mean anything, as this is just clothing. I hope you heal, anon.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:11:32 2019 No.10204744

Im a male lolita, but i think I do a pretty good job at putting together nice coords and not having a big old man face. However, there's another male lolita in my com and his coords are ita and honestly... he kinda creeps me out and i get major sissy vibes from him. I'd really rather he didn't go to meets i organised because i think he makes our com look bad....

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:19:55 2019 No.10204749 File: 351 KB, 200x200, 06C70ACB-9442-4C2F-9E12-C436BB7E7338.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10204673 This is true love, I have found a new height of obsession to aspire to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:45:13 2019 No.10204771 >>10204732 Fat is very ugly though. My unpopular opinion is that if you don't fit into at least SOME standard brand sizes, you are just too fat for lolita at all.

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:45:43 2019 No.10204773

i never really cared about likes on social media until i started being active on my comm's social media and got fewer than others. objectively i know it is because nobody knows me, and people will like their friends' shit / well-known comm members' shit no matter what, but it still bothers me

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:50:39 2019 No.10204778

>>10204734
I wouldn't buy any dress unless i like it too, but I will scoop a dress. In the buy/sell game it's everyone for themselves.
I admit that I time my posts to take the attention sometimes. But I think a lot of us do, we just have different ways of doing it. I post most when I tend to see bad moods. It will either cheer people up (the good ones) or really piss some people off. (the not so good ones)

Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:51:21 2019 No.10204779

>>10204773
If you're talking about Facebook it's probably the notification settings. Most default settings are for "highlights" and friend's posts. Showing up in someone's feed is also dependent on settings. It might literally be that most members don't see your posts since you don't get enough likes and comments to qualify as a "highlight"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:52:47 2019 No.10204780 >>10204744 All dudes in lolita make a comm look bad unless you are in a larger and progressive city. Unless you can actually pass. And let's be honest, most of you cannot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 19:54:32 2019 No.10204782 I care more about Lolita than I care about anything or anyone in my life. I feel a little bad having a material thing be more important than my friends but it's the only thing that brings me any real joy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:14:13 2019 No.10204797 >>10204778 But this is different than the previous anon. Buying something you actually want or posting at the best time for your accounts is normal, but solely doing things for petty or edgy points is lame.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:18:34 2019 No.10204801 >>10204782 Honestly, same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 20:42:51 2019 No.10204834 >>10204716 Four over the span of the last 6 years, it doesn't pop up often but I got it everytime so far. >>10204749 Finally someone who understands!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:23:05 2019 No.10204920 >>10204673 I want to know what dress it is

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:34:54 2019 No.10204934 >>10204920 Perhaps one that not many actually want, because they’re able to hoard them without competition. Kek.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 22:43:08 2019 No.10204941 >>10204782 >>10204801 Why does only lolita bring you joy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 26 23:10:02 2019 No.10204964 I wish the cosplayers had their own damn board

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 03:06:48 2019 No.10205115 >>10204964 Same

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 03:43:23 2019 No.10205128

>>10204647
Wow I’ve said this before on here. I’m glad I’m not the only one. “Net idols” are all those theater bitches who tore eachother up over their retarded, supposed-to-be-fun hobby as if it’d lead somewhere. It’s obvious in the threads that everyone is a wannabe idol, not a “fan”.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 03:46:49 2019 No.10205129

>>10204673
Wew now this is mental.

My confession: I’m a cosplayer and general j-fashioner but I RP as a lolita just to piss them off and fight in their threads. I have no stakes in the arguments as I don’t have a single brand piece, and I’ve successfully derailed many a thread. I know all the brands and what counts as ita so I’m believable. Lolitas are highly baitable and sperg out over anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 04:56:31 2019 No.10205149 >>10205129 There are several people on the board who do this, a good lesson on why lolitas need to quit eating so much bait.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 04:59:59 2019 No.10205150 >>10204964 I do too but neither hobby has enough good topic threads to carry their own board and the conventions are a common interest topic for both so unfortunately it makes sense to keep them on the same board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 05:02:11 2019 No.10205151 >>10205150 >>10204964 Why? I don’t see cosplayers coming into lolita threads, and there are more lolita threads than cosplay threads always.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 05:26:36 2019 No.10205155 >>10205129 >>10205149 It's mostly rp-ers rp-ing with other rp-ers now, I've never seen a replicas discussion so intentionally misunderstood with so many half-assed arguments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 05:38:12 2019 No.10205161 >>10205155 Maybe they really are that stupid though. There’s no way to tell who is a troll like me.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:00:26 2019 No.10205171

I am a professional illustrator and drew a few anons in the draw thread a long time ago. I am confident I am one of the best artists on the board. But my own outfit got shat all over on when I asked for a drawing so I left and never drew for them again. Fuckkum

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 06:30:07 2019 No.10205176

>>10205171
You've posted this before, and it feels like you're doing it in an attempt to get "revenge" on the girls here by loudly declaring that they've lost the opportunity to be drawn by a "REAL professional". The draw thread is mostly for funsies and there are still decent artists in there so it's not going to have the effect you're hoping for. I think you would be better off just trying to get over it. Gulls are notoriously nitpicky and there's also a bunch of larping shitposters here, which I'm assuming you knew when you posted. I'm not suggesting you start drawing people again, but holding on so hard to these feelings of rejection is not doing you any good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:04:47 2019 No.10205182 >>10205176 What? I’ve never posted this before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:21:04 2019 No.10205184 >>10205171 So you draw but are an ita. Cool story

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:31:13 2019 No.10205185 >>10205184 We might be able to make this painfully slow board grind to a halt if we chase out actual contributors with critique where it isn’t asked for. I believe in us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 07:53:28 2019 No.10205191 File: 54 KB, 857x696, 1497065531314.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10204673 Thank you for the laugh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 08:42:30 2019 No.10205211 >>10204673 We all know you're full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:01:19 2019 No.10205223 Feminist in my country keep saying 'lolita fashion causing lolita complex' 'Frilly cloths and skirt oppress women' That's why I wear lolita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:12:25 2019 No.10205227 >>10205223 So.. You wear lolita to oppress women, or you wear lolita to shove it in those feminist's face?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:18:46 2019 No.10205232 >>10205227 Make feminists more angry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:23:28 2019 No.10205235 >>10205171 Hilarious. /cgl probably isn’t for you if you suck at lolita, try /ic instead

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:34:07 2019 No.10205237

>>10205185
It's always this way, if people make petty or churlish confession, they get ridiculed. A good illustrator flouncing because her coord got critiqued is pretty funny. Illustrators have to be able to both take direction and handle critique in their work so it's kind of amusing that one would flip her shit over a clothing critique.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:38:25 2019 No.10205265

I purposely try to Photoshop my pictures to be more androgynous and use ambiguous pronouns on my insta even though I'm a pretty normal looking guy, definitely not ugly. I get more likes and followers if people think I'm a crossplayers or fakeboi because I guess they get more asspats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:42:11 2019 No.10205290 >>10205237 It’s different than that. Why would someone stick around if they gave what’s basically commissions for free and then their own request was met with self-post/CoF/ita thread treatment in the drawthread? Time is money.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:53:48 2019 No.10205296

>>10205290
the draw thread isn’t an exchange you sign up for, it’s an optional community thing you can participate in. if time was truly money then why bother with charity in the hopes of getting art from these NON-professional illustrator anons that are beneath you

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:55:24 2019 No.10205297

>>10205290
Honestly no one cares. I’m in the draw threads all the time and I NEVER see anyone crying about how “X artist” doesn’t show up anymore. No one expects free art. If someone decides never to draw here again cuz of scrunched fee fees, thats their choice and no one else will ever give a shit.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:08:03 2019 No.10205303

>>10205296
I didn’t leave because I expected something in return. I left because of the nitpicking where it didn’t belong. Gulls never know which thread they’re in.
>>10205297
I’m well aware and I don’t care that they don’t care. They shouldn’t care. This is a confessions thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:15:23 2019 No.10205306 >>10205303 I'm on your side, non-lolita anon. We need to keep people contributing and pushing people away due to unwarranted nastiness shits up an already shitastic board.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:18:18 2019 No.10205307

I find it pathetic how people suck up to Tyler and Lor and also how Tyler and Lor suck up to each other. Any time conversation starts around gushing about them I just stay quiet. I don't even envy them though, I wouldn't want to be efamous in this community because it can turn on you at any moment, and when it turns, it turns hard. Especially since a lot of lolitas are cringy SJWs that are high on the cancel culture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:30:08 2019 No.10205314 >>10205306 I’m thankful. I was starting to think I was alone lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:31:52 2019 No.10205315 >>10205307 >I just stay quiet Please don't lie anon.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 12:57:09 2019 No.10205326

>>10205303
I've only seen a few people picked on in the draw thread. People don't usually pick on people’s coord there unless the poster acts entitled, is really fat or the coord is ita level bad. In short, people they don't want to draw for. Some drawfags, not all but many, do out themselves there and actually promote their art in the draw thread. So they only want to be associated with drawing what they choose to, and usually something that might eventually bring them commissions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:03:34 2019 No.10205327 >>10205232 You're super dumb, so they're probably talking about nymphet fashion and you didn't realise

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:03:39 2019 No.10205329 >>10204744 So make smaller, private tea parties and invite your favorite comm members by hand. By the time word gets around to him, you'll have reached your 12- or whatever person limit and his bitch ass can't be accommodated.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:28:28 2019 No.10205343

>>10205307
I think fear of the cringe sjw faction in the fashion are Mostly keeping other people from doing j-fashion channels. So we are stuck with Tyler and Lor, when what I'd really love to see is several different types of lolitas get together to make a few aggregate channels that could use their content to actually further the fashion as well as promote them personally.

Tyler>Lor though. I wish Lor would just drop most of her lolita topics and go chase the videos that give her the most views as a YouTuber. She's not a very good lolita and she has pretty much tapped out on videos we went to see. She claims to not be an authority, but then speaks from an experienced POV, which is a very mixed message. Her ’Shit Lolitas Say’ series was very funny but watch those again, then watch her lolita content now. Big difference, and not for the better at all. She's not a very good lolita much less one who can advise others well.

Analyze her videos like she urges you to examine other people’s videos. Lolita Horror Stories. Compelling title, right? But all it is really about is her dramatically being too spineless to stand up and very simply tell a company ’I'm not going to review your item because I cant positively recommend your customer service’, then all the ~drama~ that happened because she didn't tell them no in a direct, professional manner. She brought it on herself by not communicating with them honestly/directly at any point until the very last. Even something as simple as, ’We have no contract, i have decided not to make a video for personal reasons, please stop contacting me or I WILL make a public and honest negative review regarding your harassment.’

She's not in any way as immature, sweet, young and vulnerable as she acts, anyone who has seen her facade drop knows this. She really speaks down to her audience in a very patronizing way and she is also not a very good event guest because she is extremely centered on herself in all her views.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:09:11 2019 No.10205366 >>10205265 >I guess they get more asspats. So you want to be the little girl? >>10205307 Tyler seems like she's not sure what she's doing with all the ~exposure~

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:21:48 2019 No.10205375

>>10205171
Fat or ita, or both? Depends on what they were saying, was it true? Why are you taking it personally and getting butthurt instead of taking it in stride and getting better? It may have been harsh critique but I'm guessing it was probably true. Being a good artist in the draw thread doesn't make you somehow magically immune to critique on your coord. People are going to call it as they see it.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:27:43 2019 No.10205379

Every now and then I stop posting coords and interacting with my comm because I'm suicidal. I get suicidal because I'm very executively dysfunctional and my house and life are a mess. I want help, but a therapist doesn't provide the kind of practical life support I need. I would do better if I could just sell half my dresses and get rid of all my old books but I'm not organized enough to post them and go through being a good seller. I know it's a stupid reason to be suicidal.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:32:18 2019 No.10205386

>>10205366
I think that's just part of her persona, because she does her videos to get exposure, accepts more sponsorships due to exposure, accepts more guest appearances due to exposure, makes collabs due to exposure...she’s managing to do just fine with taking full advantage it, despite what the says about ’being so completely overwhelmed by the exposure’.

I don't really have to remind you to watch what people actually do over just listening to what they say, do I, anon? It's such an old lesson.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:38:06 2019 No.10205393 >>10205343 As someone who doesn't keep up with e-famous lolitas at all, what is Lor's real personality like?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:41:11 2019 No.10205397

>>10205379
It's not stupid at all, I'm going through the same thing. Reading Marie Kondo's book and it's kind of helping but most days, just conjuring the energy is a struggle. My house is looking less hoarder-y step by step but it really can be a long and draining process. Whether it's konmari or the 20-10 method or whatever, even a little bit a day can help. I believe in you, anon!

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:42:31 2019 No.10205398

>>10205379
Bite the bullet and hire someone like an organiser to help you dig yourself out and get back on your feet. They will come in, sort and sell your stuff, and subcontract someone to come in to clean your space. Totally worth it.
Then you and the therapist can sort out the emotional mess without the burden of your possessions in a mess dragging you down. I'm facing something similar, I was ill and my stuff and living space is really a mess. Since I'm emotionally in an OK space now, I rented a short-term storage and I'm just boxing all the non-essential shit up to deal with later, box by box, and getting a cleaning and yard service to come in to do everything else so I can start fresh.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:55:44 2019 No.10205408

>>10205393
Self-centered, a bit sarcastic, a bit ’above it all’, quite privileged, which isn't surprising considering her white upper middle class upbringing and going to private school.
Watch her Paradiso video where she is sitting in the hotel and also watch her unscripted interactions and bloopers. Listen for when she drops her nicely-nice voice tone and is either somewhat sarcastic or downright whiny. Those give it away quite a bit. Then there's the blatant fact that a lot of what she does just straight up contradicts what she says. ’Be yourself’...except when you are trying to get views. ’find your own style’, except when you want to cash in on a trending style for views, ’Lolita is not a costume’...except when I think it's ok to make it one. ’Not sponsored’...but obviously I'm repping this stuff because i want sponsorship. ’follow my social media and interact with me’...except I'm whining about hating FB and i only ever go on there to shill and even tell you i only read replies to certain posts where i ask questions to use some of your answers for content.
Stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:16:38 2019 No.10205423 >>10205343 Glad you got that out of your chest anon. The kind of lolita channels you described already exist btw, problem is the lolitas behind it are mindnumbingly boring, ugly, ita or fat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:19:20 2019 No.10205425 >>10205423 Maybe I'm missing those channels then but sounds bad regardless. I see lots of good lolitas on Instagram, pity more are not also on YouTube.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:22:15 2019 No.10205428 >>10205408 I mean I kind of agree with you but yikes, you sound obsessed with her.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:34:44 2019 No.10205440

>>10205343
>>10205423
This is why lolitas can't fucking have nice things.

Some is making great content but ugly? (Fluffykawaiijo, Lor)
Lolitas hate her cause she's ugly. This turns off 90% of us who want to make decent content.

Someone is making content while actually cute? You get shit hauls and look at me uwu videos.

Someone okayish looking making okay content? (Lor maybe, Tyler) You get them blowing up in popularity until they get the haters.

Someone starts an indie brand? Endless bashing unless it's pins.

I miss the age of blogs. There was so much quality content created without the need of efame or the hate. I still read so many of the oldies. I'm an oldfag and would love to contribute content to the community besides endlessly answering noob questions on here and FB but there isn't really a good way to do it without opening yourself up to the endless lolita bs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:42:14 2019 No.10205443 >>10205375 For the last damn time, the drawthread is not the place for harsh critique, or critique at all.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:54:36 2019 No.10205456

>>10205428
I’m not. I only posted when anon asked here >>10205393
so I tried to paint a full and accurate picture with examples of what I'm seeing of her vs what she's trying to show. If it seems too detailed, its probably because i listed quite a few of them to establish the pattern of behavior.

I don't even watch all of her videos, unsubscribed shortly after her 5th ’Shit Lolitas Say’.
But these are the things I picked up from the ones I did watch. Once you are trained to pick up on these kinds of inconsistencies and behavior patterns, your brain just works that way and they pop out, so they are easy to just spell out like a grocery list. So that's what i posted.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:58:19 2019 No.10205459
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>>10204782
Same but im trying to work on that. I know that if i obsess over it i will end up hating it and leaving the fashion.
>>10205379
Oof im right there with you anon. Why not vent a little here or ask for advice? Try the other anons suggestions, i also do the konmari methods and my wardrobe looks already much better and that makes me happy.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:00:08 2019 No.10205461

>>10205443
And again you are correct, it is absolutely NOT a thread for it and most people know that BUT really fat, really ita or very ugly people have been known to draw comment there time after time and no one saying that ’its not the thread for critique’ will change it.

The undercurrent to these comments is the reason WHY. People generally do not want to draw them so yes, it's kind of related and no, you aren't gonna stop it by continuing to complain about it.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:05:07 2019 No.10205462

>>10205461
If itas are posted in the draw thread, why don't people just ignore them? Why would you feel the need to comment at all? If there's not really an implied concrit culture on that thread then the "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all" maxim should apply

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:19:54 2019 No.10205472

>>10205462
Because if you are very fat, highly ita or very ugly, people don't want to draw you. There usually aren't a bunch of nitpicks, snarking and minor critiques ever going on in the draw thread. Those few that are posted, they do usually get shut down if it starts. That's why I'm guessing that butthurt drawfag is huge, had a very bad coord, or is unusually ugly.
Is it appropriate? No. Does it happen? Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:23:00 2019 No.10205473 >>10205472 I g n o r e t h e m

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:25:35 2019 No.10205475 >>10205150 I’ve gotten to the point where I can probably safely call myself a cosplayer, but I’m actually just here for the convention drama.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:26:47 2019 No.10205476

>>10205462
If they can’t follow that maxim and absolutely must get those retarded ~salty gull~ points, they could just yoink the pic and repost in the appropriate thread like a bitch. Instead we have to go no fun allowed and make people fear posting themselves and asking for art. Good job gulls.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:28:28 2019 No.10205479 >>10205476 The same thing happens to cosplay threads. We used to have more WiP and self posting but people would yank wip and costest photos from threads to dump in the cringe and bad cosply threads, so people stopped posting

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:32:48 2019 No.10205482

>>10205472
This was probably two years ago. Things might have changed. I’m not fat or ugly. Why do people always assume this like petty high schoolers whenever there’s a complaint? I wasn’t downright ita in my eyes of course but I won’t go into more detail on what anons said because I don’t want to put myself.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:33:37 2019 No.10205483

>>10205393
You're asking people on 4chan. We aren't reputable at all. You'd have to meet her yourself to figure that out. People like >>10205408 have likely never met her, are projecting, and are just lying about her personality to validate their dislike for her.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:39:25 2019 No.10205489

>>10205476
People in general who inhabit the draw thread will shut down nitpickers. On a regular basis. The fact that they DON’T generally shut down posts of fats, itas and uggos is saying something too. Best to listen because it is not going to change.

Maybe get some decent concrit to make sure your coord and your photo is on point before asking people to spend their time and effort to draw you.
That's probably the best you can do to prevent it, because you aren't going to change the way the draw thread operates, its been quietly running this way just fine for years. A few loud fats, itas and uggos will not reform it, and the rest of us see no real need for any reform. People post, they get drawn. I've see no decrease in posting, no increase in critique.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:42:14 2019 No.10205492 >>10205482 Post the coord somewhere for concrit and see what is said. If you aren't fat or ugly, I'm betting it was ita. And I'm betting you are stubborn. If it was 2 years ago, how much have you improved your coords?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:46:56 2019 No.10205497

>>10205483
Except that in the replies, anons aren't shit-talking Lor, lying about anything or projecting, they are just saying, ’watch her videos, notice some things and decide for yourself’. Lots of us have met her, she does get around to many of the events we attend and we are around her all weekend.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:52:52 2019 No.10205505 >>10205489 >Concrit >Stop being ugly Wow thanks anon now I see where I went wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:58:40 2019 No.10205509 >>10205492 I can’t say the specific “critiques” about it or else I’d be ID’d otherwise I would explain more

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:59:03 2019 No.10205510 >>10205505 Get plastic surgery or kys uggo

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:03:51 2019 No.10205513

>>10205505
You went wrong thinking anon board culture cares about individual feefees. Of anyone. That's just not how these boards work. Something about your photo was different than the many photos that go without comment. Past board behaviour notably only calls out 3 types on the draw board. Is it such a wild hypothesis to think that the called out photo might fit one of those categories? Not really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:05:46 2019 No.10205516 >>10205509 Are they similar to the kinds if critiques generally commented in the ita thread?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:06:21 2019 No.10205517

>>10205462
>Why would you feel the need to comment at all?
Sometimes it almost feels like an itch that needs to be scratched. But I'm going to be honest, I'm mostly salty because some people who beg for drawings there openly shit talk cgl on other platforms, talk about what a horrible place it is and how dumb gulls are etc etc. It's hypocritical.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:14:08 2019 No.10205521 >>10205517 lol this. then they post it to their socials calling it "fan art" or w/e. please

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:15:14 2019 No.10205522 >>10205513 Ach feck off ya cunt

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:38:00 2019 No.10205538 >>10205513 You said so much without saying anything at all

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:43:31 2019 No.10205540 I am selling a rare JetJ jsk, but is a replica. I bought the original and then the replica (was just curious) and they're the fcking SAME.A So sew the tag to the replica. Gonna make profit lmao. Even the price tag is attached so no one will know...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:47:01 2019 No.10205542 >>10205540 disgusting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:05:02 2019 No.10205561 >>10205540 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:15:00 2019 No.10205568 >>10205540 >but is a replica. >(was just curious) > the fcking SAME.A >A So sew the tag to the replica. >Gonna make profit lmao. So all I have to do to avoid getting scammed is not buy JetJ from eurotrash, asians, and english-speaking retards. Got it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:23:00 2019 No.10205571 im a closeted gay who is having second thoughts on to attend LGBT related panels, media, commisioners, booths Ill try the next time i go to a con, because hey no one will know who you are there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:31:01 2019 No.10205575 >>10205571 Who the fuck cares if you're gay?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:37:40 2019 No.10205579 File: 66 KB, 1440x495, Screenshot_2018-09-19-10-52-36-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10205571

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:46:26 2019 No.10205580 >>10205171 Most artists are good at planning outfits as well. You’re probably not as skilled as you think, which has nothing to do with whether you’re a pro or not

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:48:55 2019 No.10205581 >>10205575 >confession thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:32:44 2019 No.10205599 >>10205580 Lol confirmed to have never been around artists. There’s not much correlation between illustration and clothes like you think. And people can only make a living on what they do if it has value, anon.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:34:32 2019 No.10205601

As someone outside of the lolita community, I unfairly assume that everyone dressing like that is an utter embarassment in public insofar as doing the stupid high-pitched "cute" voice or being overly enthusiastic about everything or making ahegao faces.

I came to this confession thread in hopes that someone will tell me I'm an idiot and that most girls in lolita comms are normies on the inside that just happen to like lolita (because I'm very attracted to this type of fashion excluding my aforementioned bias, and I think it's super cute).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:44:06 2019 No.10205614 >>10205601 It really depends on the community you're in, micom is full of weeaboos. The dressed girls tend to not be so cringy, but you never know. It's just a fashion at the end of the day. You can be a lonelita if everyone around you is a retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:45:08 2019 No.10205616 >>10205614 Better dressed girls *

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:53:20 2019 No.10205627 >>10205599 Nayrt, but I've attended an art high school and an art university. You're full of shit. The only people who couldn't dress themselves were the people who sucked at art and went to art school bc they were "creative"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:00:16 2019 No.10205634 >>10205627 What art school would let in an artist who “sucked?” Sure doesn’t sound like a good school to me. Maybe you weren’t actually around artists.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:04:38 2019 No.10205640

>>10205599
>tfw artist and have only been complimented on /cgl/
Also there are plenty of shit tier artists who make a living off of their art. Consistency and timeliness are more important than skill.

>>10205634
I know that RISD and SVA have a ton of bad students

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:04:56 2019 No.10205642 >>10205540 Ho hum, another fake Le Premiere Cri du Prophét try. It's been tried. It won't fly. Nope.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:12:31 2019 No.10205649 >>10205440 >endless lolita bs I honestly think a lot of cgl lolitas are just mentally ill and get off on arguing with strangers on the internet. It’s why we can’t have nice things. They can’t let anyone ever get a compliment.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:18:14 2019 No.10205654

>>10205640
In general art schools will take anyone who can pay. They aren’t public universities after all. I have seen some steeaaaming piles of shit come out of art college. Its all about the work you put in during school and who you get to know. You can enter and graduate being no better than a high schooler.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:51:22 2019 No.10205671

>>10205634
Ayrt, and whew lad. All NA art schools are garbage. I've helped a lot of hs students construct their portfolios to get into canadian and american art unis/collages and let me tell you, it's no fucking contest. I did my BFA and MFA in europe and just to get into the school I had to submit a portfolio, fly over to complete an in-person exam for drawing, painting, and sculpting, and participate in an interview. It was cutthroat.
To compare, I went to a visual art seminar in canada a few years ago hosted by "Canada's association of artists" (or some shit like that, the speaker jokingly called it "canada's best kept secret" and god I hope it stays that way) where the cow giving the lecture said "Unlike other places in the world, schools in Canada don't require students to do an in-person exam, because here we respect the portfolio."
Garbage. Absolute garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:12:29 2019 No.10205682 >>10205671 What do you do as a job now, if you don’t mind saying? That’s some insane measures so I’m curious what people who complete the school end up doing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:24:03 2019 No.10205692 >>10205599 so you admit you're an ita and dress like shit?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:29:24 2019 No.10205697

>>10205682
I sell paintings and do illustration/art commissions. I also give lectures in private schools and galleries. Basically contract work. And you would be genuinely surprised how many foreign kids want to go to art school in america and how much their parents are willing to pay to get them in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:32:20 2019 No.10205702 >>10205692 >what is reading comprehension Retard alert. It means that illustrators don’t dress much better than any other pool of people who care enough to not wear leggings as pants.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:38:07 2019 No.10205707 >>10205697 Damn I’m jel. I wish art was more accessible to rural areas. I wish I had known there are careers and experiences like that worth pushing for as a high schooler in poorfagville, USA. Oh well. Maybe when I get reincarnated I can try again.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:20:19 2019 No.10205750

>>10205707
I hope you don't mind me asking how old you are now? There are a good chunk of artists that began later in life or had an additional career. Kandinsky went to art school at the age of 30, after finishing his degree in law. In fact, I'd say it's a great benefit to be well versed in other academic fields because creating good art requires the ability to observe, understand, deconstruct, and relate to the world around you. If you are truly wanting to pursue art, treat everything you've learned up to this point as a benefit, instead of wasted opportunity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:44:24 2019 No.10205757 >>10205601 It does vary by comm but in mine, I feel like a lot of them are normies. The kind that only wear lolita at meets and think being a lifestyler is odd or just don't get the appeal.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:00:36 2019 No.10205767

>>10205375
>I'm guessing it was probably true
Saying things like "you're fat" is just like stating a fact. Like ok sure, its true when it's being said, but in what way is that critique that would help someone get better?
How come these bullshit comments are always justified with tough love like "you should just take it in stride"? Is it because people like you know its bullshit and you need to do mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you don't think like a low life?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:11:43 2019 No.10205783

>>10205767
This may come as a surprise but not everyone is obliged to give kind critique to improve someone. That's not even the purpose of the draw thread, it's to draw aesthetically pleasing subjects as drawing practice. Cuties post photos, drawfags who want to draw them do so. There is some ranking going on there, there always has been. You take your chances with the comments when you willingly post a personal photo of yourself on an anonymous Sicilian Spaghetti Twirling board. Big girl panties required. Draw thread is one thread that is rarely trolled by people posting someone else’s photo.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:18:17 2019 No.10205794

>>10205783
Yeah you “take your chances” but then why are people who leave the assholes and not the ones critiquing in a non-critique thread? “Suck it up, big girl panties require” is just ignoring a problem. You’re not obliged to comment but actually *going out of your way* to say “you’re ita/fat/ugly” smells of some low self esteem.
>there is rarely any picking and shitposting going on
Yeah, because everyone left.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:25:57 2019 No.10205800

>>10205794
There are people drawing and getting drawn every day. Same as yesterday. Very few get sparked at in that thread. Look, you know what 4C is, its basically an anonymous shitposting board. It's pretty pointless to cry that we can't put personal photos up on a board like this and escape comment. If the reaction is positive, that would be fine and dandy right? Not all reactions are positive. One could argue that trying to shut people down on such a board is selective repression. No one posted the op who complained without their permission and then dragged them. They just got butthurt that they did not receive the praise and positive attention they craved. Big whoop.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:27:41 2019 No.10205803

>>10205783
>kind critique to improve someone
No, there's no surprise that there are assholes on this site.
You missed the point of my post, however.

I'm not talking about whether the comments are nice or not. The concern comes from whether or not the comment is actually constructive and would cause someone to change how they do things.
Making obvious as fuck statements won't get someone to change. Nor will doning the "tough love" crown.

Be fucking real with yourself about this. They are just obvious statements being thrown around by anons who can't come up with anything real or intelligent to say.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:37:14 2019 No.10205808

>>10205803
’Concern’ for non-contructive comments on an anonymous shitposting site? Are you lost? Or just high? I'm slightly concerned for your grasp on reality and concerned about your lack of awareness. This is not a self-improvement website. Most of us don't really care.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:59:14 2019 No.10205821

>>10205808
Did you miss the part where I said I'm not surprised.

You don't need to keep justifying your shitty mentality to me, stupid. I don't care either since you're clearly the kind of anon who can't even have a decent discussion without succumbing to repetitive board culture statements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:01:50 2019 No.10205823 >>10205800 >>10205808 Just in one ear and out the other.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:05:56 2019 No.10205829 >>10204941 Because Lolita is the only thing thats never hurt me

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:32:33 2019 No.10205849

>>10205366
I'm saying if I shop myself to look androgynous instead of trying to look more masculine and I don't say I'm a guy, I get about 2x the likes on my posts and followers than the ones where I either try to look more masculine or the times when I have (M) in my bio. It's weird and Petty but it's cheap validation

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:20:18 2019 No.10206003

All I want to do is buy frilly shit from 2008 but no, I had to go & get a beautiful run down victorian farm house that will eat up all my money for the next 5 years or so.
Then I look at my collection and think if I'd not bought you that'd be my red brick chimneys reconstructed, upstairs floor laid & the roof seen to before winter.
I am so conflicted. I love my house guise but I'l be 40 before I can guilt free buy lolita again. Never realised how much lolita fashion has meant to me til this day.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:27:02 2019 No.10206004

>>10206003
Lolita will be buyable for a long time, friend. Get your beautiful house sorted, and take amazing pics in it and in the garden. Think of how cozy you will be in the winter, think of flowers in the summer. It is completely worth investing in your house for now, but there is also nothing wrong in picking up a couple of lolita pieces here and there to treat yourself occasionally. Budget carefully, work out when you can afford lolita. Or sell some pieces and replace them 1 to 1 so you don't lose as much money and your closet feels fresh. You can have both things, anon. It's just really important to watch your priorities, like you should definitely get that roof checked before next winter. It sounds like you're doing well though.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 05:04:28 2019 No.10206008

>>10205803
NAYRT but I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here? Of course people who post things like that are assholes with nothing better to say, that's pretty self evident. So are the people who defend them with the tough love argument. But people like that are not going to suddenly start listening to reason or change themselves for the better, it's likely that the ability to shitpost like that is what keeps them coming here in the first place. Unless the mods actually start deleting all the mean posts, which we all know is not going to happen, anyone considering posting themselves to 4chan needs to take the existence of those assholes into consideration first. It's kind of like earthquake-proofing your house - it would be great if it wasn't necessary, but earthquakes aren't going to stop just because you ask them nicely and if you live in an earthquake-prone area it's better to be safe than sorry. You could argue that assholes aren't actually forces of nature and that we should be able to expect better from our fellow human beings, but given the nature of this specific site I think that's unrealistic. Most people who use 4chan have accepted their presence even if they're not happy with it, and the only thing we can really do about it is to try to be the change that we want to see and contribute some positivity. Arguing with them is generally an exercise in futility.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 06:01:25 2019 No.10206036 >WHY ARE THERE MEANIES ON 4CHAN?? WHAT KIND OF ASSHOLE WOULD JUST COMMENT WHATEVER THEY WANT??? Moot should have swinged the banhammer more when we were still salvageable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 06:04:08 2019 No.10206037 >>10205540 Is the Ballerine jsk right? We all know you bitch

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 08:02:40 2019 No.10206067 >>10206008 I'm not trying to accomplish anything. I just like shitting on people who actually deserve it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 08:27:12 2019 No.10206081

I'm not an age player by any means.

But I do feel like I have an age regression problem. I think it stems from my really rough childhood. I don't always wear sweet lolita but when I do, I try my best to not let my age regression show but I feel like its inevitable that if people get to know me they'll be able to tell that I'm like slightly off mentally. Which I'm super self aware of but just can't fully keep it under control even though I don't want to be the stereotype that I know I am.

But I have no desire to ageplay and I think those people are sick assholes, considering my upbringing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 08:33:47 2019 No.10206082 >>10206008 >Unless the mods actually start deleting all the mean posts Did you see what happened in the lolita gen. Mods are definitely doing that now.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:01:07 2019 No.10206089

>>10206003
Wear and enjoy your current collection and get one new piece for each birthday and Christmas, otherwise use money to work on your house? We want to do a renovation so I'm really tightening up our budget overall and cutting extras. For lolita, I'm sorting my current wardrobe and I'm going to sell unused pieces so I will use only that money to get more pieces. Then buy one holiday dress. I have several parties to attend then so I would buy a dress anyway for those.
I think many of us are at this point, moved out or becoming homeowners and working on at least furnishing and decor if not a renovation, but most of us don't really speak of it much because we get accused of first world problems or the humble brag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:05:50 2019 No.10206091 >>10206067 Too bad the people "who actually deserve it" don't give a shit compared to the whiny pissbabies shitting up this thread.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:08:08 2019 No.10206093

>>10206082
My guess is that the posts there were from one massive shitposter who got all their posts deleted and a temp ban. I could do without the shitposting too, but you also saw that all the new release info and photos got nuked too, right? So likely same poster. So we lost a chunk of good stuff too.
Not everything is black and white and you can’t always fit people (especially here) into your neat little categories of good and bad posters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:14:07 2019 No.10206097 File: 60 KB, 500x500, 1403633670853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10206082

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 10:09:46 2019 No.10206113 >>10205821 If you didn't care, why did you let it bother you? You know these people are not in a good place, yet now you stop posting.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 11:35:56 2019 No.10206134

When I have the energy for it, I set aside the time to compliment everyone on my instagram feed in some way or form. I just don't like the idea of what I see in secrets and confessions threads where people are always so insecure about themselves or others are trying to outdo each other. I know that even for myself, I try to be the best at my cosplay and my coords, but I want to cultivate a happier atmosphere, and that just won't happen if we are all at each other's throats.

I still judge silently sometimes, but I try to find something nice and encouraging to say, regardless. I know it won't do much, but if I encourage/compliment the positive aspects, then the annoying ones won't be so prominent anymore, either.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 12:54:15 2019 No.10206151

>>10206081
Can you talk to a therapist about it? Or work out some goals and things you can do when you catch yourself doing that? There are cognitive behavior therapy apps on your phone or you could journal and set goals for yourself. Changing behavior is really hard, I understand.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:46:52 2019 No.10206341

I look down on people who hook up at anime cons / have an anime con FWB. I have recently been doing a lot of thinking about human biology, instincts in choosing a mate, commitment etc. and how contradictory it all is to hook up culture, and how that affects your mentality long-term. this ain’t it chief. It’s not healthy, as much as people who think “feel good = good for mind” want to convince you it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:56:26 2019 No.10206428 >>10206037 Nayrt but it's definitely the Ballerine jsk. The listing has a similar typing style and the price tag detail gives it away. Not sure if it's me being primed for it but the dress itself looks shoddy too.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:10:24 2019 No.10206439

>>10206093
>but you also saw that all the new release info and photos got nuked too, right? So likely same poster.
Yes I saw all of it. And I'm glad the mods have started doing this. Just goes to show that anons shouldn't be shit posting like they do and then trying to cover up with on topic posts. You break the rules, then you lose the privilege of getting to post on topic too.

>So we lost a chunk of good stuff too
It's on Twitter and in the archives.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:12:06 2019 No.10206440

>>10206113
No, you're just assuming I'm bothered because I replied.

I have a job where I have to show restraint when people send me trolling/insulting emails. But here I don't have to hold back if some dumb anon is here to troll. I can unleash full force and they deserve it because they wanted those replies anyway.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:13:13 2019 No.10206441

The JetJ Ballerine jsk on lace market looks genuine and the tag sewn in looks legit. But although the paper tag is safety pinned in, you can tell by the folds and wrinkles on the bodice that this dress has been worn and not cleaned after.
I used to work in retail and we really had to watch for dress returns that had actually been worn, tags tucked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:14:08 2019 No.10206443 >>10206341 So did you do studies on people after their hook up phase?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:33:58 2019 No.10206464 >>10205642 Care to elaborate?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:43:11 2019 No.10206465

>>10206464
It's the most-tried ’rare j et j dress’ that has a replica and has been passed off. Just Google j et j replica. Most people don't have a j et j piece to compare details, most don't like this brand enough for there to be many replicas. Of those replicas, which are rare and have been sold? Only this one. So that's the one I’d look out for.

I like to play Lolita Detective though. It beats shitposting low quality bait. Where's the challenge in that? The posts here have become so much worse, and most FB groups are no fun, just mindless hugbox and like for like. Insta is good for lolita but I've seen most of the good posts and i only follow the best of the best in my interests, I curate there hardcore. So its summer and I'm a bit bored.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 19:23:25 2019 No.10206487 >>10206439 >You break the rules, then you lose the privilege of getting to post on topic too. Oh it's you again. Why are you still here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 05:37:25 2019 No.10206863 >>10206428 Not that anon, but when I saw the listing it look so off

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 07:14:11 2019 No.10206881
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My confession is that i haven't joined any of my local comms because i secretly judge most of the members, most are either fetishists, uggos or replica chans, or all of those rolled into one, i hate not having a decent comm to turn to.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 09:26:04 2019 No.10206913

my confession is the first meetup i went too, everyone was very .. not cliquey, but had groups who knew eachother very well and it was super overwhelming. i sat at the end of a dinner table and while all the girls were nice, they spoke about a topic i knew nothing about for about 45 mins. I was just kind of chilling and active listening, one of the girls asked if I had ever played the game to which i said no. and then they were like seemed to feel bad and she was like oh we can change the topic. I insinsted it was fine (it was), and i actually took off then and headed home.

it was an interesting time. my first meetup ever, the main thing of the meetup was a movie before the dinner, and all the mini groups sat far apart, and so i sat alone cause i didnt wanna weird anyone out by like hey new girl sat down right next to you.

the next meetups i went to were WAY smaller and i had alot better times and have made more genuine friends in lolita since then

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 10:14:47 2019 No.10206930

>>10206881
This is a good argument against people just accepting everyone into a comm. People say ’oh what's the harm’ to unsuitable people, or people who even don't have a coord yet, then when decently dressed new people look at the comm, they don't want to join because it's full of these people. Ugh!

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 10:35:15 2019 No.10206944

>>10206930
Yeah, i wish comms were more exclusive and had a system to weed out the undesirables, but since lately it's been all about accepting everyone with open arms any bozo with a Forever 21 blouse and Bershka shoes can join. With the kind of people the comms in my area have accepted, whenever you see a brand print it is a 90% chance it's a replica and the local sales groups are either filled with those or shitty overpriced "lolita cosplay", it's basically a dystopian wasteland.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 10:44:13 2019 No.10206950

>>10206944
The old ways were best.
- Get a full lolita coord together before trying to join a comm or come to a meet
- Don't wear print replicas
(and I know I'll probably get shit for this last one, but unless you are in a big progressive city)
- Be female.

Comms used to be small, insular and picky. There was gatekeeping. But they did not have nearly as many problems with inappropriate people joining.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 13:13:58 2019 No.10207024

I’m almost ashamed to admit this, but I want to be cosfamous. It’s not even like I want this to be my career either, I’m in college and I enjoy what I’m studying. I kind of just want it because I’m lonely as hell right now and I want more cosplay friends. I’m good at using social media and already have a few thousand followers, but I’ve only made a handful of new friends so far and we aren’t really close yet. I just want people to want to be friends with me. I hate how hard it is to make new friends as an adult

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 13:32:25 2019 No.10207036

Special snowflake food lolitas gives me the shits. They all want to complain about the catering not being delicious enough but they'll dodge hosting meets or preparing any meals for non special folks.
Ffs bring your own goddamn food if the struggle is real. Hosts are not your mommy, arrange your shitty diet yourselves! Oh and if you're at risk of dying from eating something that doesn't sit so well, it might be in your best interest to take charge of that.

This close to making exclusive meets.

Who puts up with this shit?

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 13:45:52 2019 No.10207040

>>10205634
>What art school would let in an artist who “sucked?”
Lmao most American art schools have at least a few shitty students. It has definitely become a situation where if you are willing to pay full tuition, they’ll let anyone into the program. The good news though is that if you are good at art, being surrounded by shitty artists means that you will always be the professor’s favorite student. Also it becomes extremely easy to win art scholarships when only you and 3 other people in the program have good portfolios.

For me personally that meant I got a lot of free stuff from professors, they helped me network, one got me a job, and they helped me get scholarships and grants. So on one hand it would be nice to be surrounded by good art, but on the other hand I get sweet benefits from being one of the very few good artists in this major.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 13:50:45 2019 No.10207041

>>10207040
>>10205634
while not in a strictly art school (school with good art program bc weeby jap minor), I was really surprised by the amount of shitty artists they let it. After being in class for a year I kind of laughed at how much I stressed the application. Even at portfolio days and in line for nice art schools, the amount of middle school level art being shown was shocking.

but yeah, It has its benefits, as anon said you get easy scholarships and makes you the fave of the professors. Even if the professors standard is higher, you're pretty much guaranteed and A if you put in the bare minimum effort to finish something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:28:35 2019 No.10207056 >>10206487 Because you're just mad that mods get the last word against people like you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:38:10 2019 No.10207061 >>10204964 If they separated them and put cosplay on the nsfw side, it would probably be more successful

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 15:41:13 2019 No.10207110 >>10207056 That makes no sense in context to what I've wrote. >people like you. The last time you posted this you said you "trolled" yourself for a while. If anyone should be banned, then it's dumb projecting tumblrfags like you.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 15:53:51 2019 No.10207125

>>10207036
Hosts are too spineless. They need to stand up and ask people with special diets to call the venue themselves and make dietary arrangements. Hosting doesn't include that duty, the person with the special diet needs to do it for themselves like a grown ass adult. And yes, I'm GF and I damn well do call and arrange my own meals with the venue for meets so it never has to be some big fucking special snowflake situation. I'd never ask a meet host to do that for me, she's not my mommy ffs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 16:19:57 2019 No.10207163 >>10207061 R u srs. You never browse cosplay threads do you

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 21:23:18 2019 No.10207390

>>10207024
being cosfamous makes it kind of tricky to make legit cosplay friends. unless they are famous themselves, and sometimes even if they are, you can never be sure if they're riding your fame train or if they really like you for you. you get a lot of NEGATIVE attention as well--most of the positive attention you get isn't friendship, it's likes. fame isn't anything to want or strive for imo unless you like the money aspect

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 22:51:18 2019 No.10207464 >>10207024 Just bring a lot of alcohol to share, it's cheaper, easier, and less stressful than cosfame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 02:39:34 2019 No.10207601 >>10207125 Thanks anon, I'm glad you agree. You have shown me the way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 03:03:14 2019 No.10207617 I come to /cgl/ because I wish I had a lolita gf.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 04:47:51 2019 No.10207684 >>10207617 Same

Anonymous Sun Jun 30 05:28:37 2019 No.10207703

>>10207036
If i had time outside of working all the time i would set up a banquet meet and make all of the courses because i'm sick of garbage food being catered from shit places. I can cook really well, i'm the daughter of a chef so it would be fun and easy for me but getting the time away and coordinating it is a huge hassle.

Anonymous Sun Jun 30 06:24:57 2019 No.10207728

>>10207703
Good for you anon. The hosts generally pick high end places where snooty muggles glance up & down at us from afar. It's not shit quality food.

I personally don't know any lolitas who can prepare a banquet and be perfectly made up in time for guests. My gripe are ppl who rock up, nitpick and repeat for next time.

Anonymous Sun Jun 30 06:50:47 2019 No.10207743

>>10207728
I used to run high end catering events with my dad when I was in high school. Sounds outlandish but it was really just me my dad and my stepmother making food for 1000 people. My grandmother also loves hosting events for bunko, and her neighborhood/friends so I know the best ways to entertain. Plus I enjoy cooking a lot and do it as a job, but because it's my job, getting away is hard and finding the time to prepare for such a large event is harder, since it tends to be so time consuming. Hopefully I'll be able to pull it off this year around christmas, I'd ideally like to host a Christmas cocktail party with appetizers, two courses, and a dessert with specialty cocktails!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 06:52:48 2019 No.10207744 >>10207743 Wow, I'd be lucky to be in your comm. Hope they bring you tokens of appreciation?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 06:58:22 2019 No.10207745 File: 51 KB, 378x750, f7150fd7578c563258332724eac5e94f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tend to avoid classic lolitas nowadays because from my experience, they're always the bitchiest and most judgemental people.

Anonymous Sun Jun 30 07:16:21 2019 No.10207749

>>10207744
I'm friends with a few of the members, but my comm is not very large. Only 5-6 people show up per meet and we rarely get together so I haven't had a chance to really cook for anyone quiet yet, but I hope I can impress eventually. I plan on moving maybe somewhat closer to them so my travel time cuts down, and I can communicate with the local historic housing communities with allowing us to have meets with food. The laws here are also really awful when it comes to events catered outside of your own residence so it's been a real struggle even finding places that will allow us to do this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 11:55:44 2019 No.10207934 >>10205750 Nayrt but I really needed to read this, thanks.

Anonymous Sun Jun 30 14:37:18 2019 No.10208069

I'm making a polite exit from my comm because I honestly feel embarrassed when we are all out in public. Lolita isn't a cosplay, but the majority of them treat it as if it were and they wear outlandish shit with their coords that makes the inevitable attention from the public that much more frequent. I'd rather get the occasional question out by myself than the weird, out of place feeling I get when I'm out with them.
On top of this their behavior just isn't something I want to be associated with, I'd prefer to quietly browse a shop alone than with a group of people who can't control themselves or what they say.
I feel bad for feeling this way. I don't have anyone to talk to about it. I initially joined a comm because being a lonelita was well, lonely. But now I'm realizing that I think I prefer it. I feel like an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 15:00:34 2019 No.10208098 File: 83 KB, 557x346, Screen Shot 2017-11-02 at 7.24.18 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10207617 >>10207684 that can be arranged depending on your salary~

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 15:04:34 2019 No.10208104 >>10207745 same, but with sweet lolitas I cannot stand 90% of them, the dresses are tacky, and in public they act all fake cutesy and annoying. plus all the DRAMA. I wish there were gothic only comms, or style specific comms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 16:38:43 2019 No.10208216 >>10207617 Ew. Who needs that drama? "Did you just cum on my burando anon? We are OVER"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 18:25:00 2019 No.10208320 >>10208216 Don't worry. Cum should only go inside.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 19:39:40 2019 No.10208414 >>10208069 if you don't have friends in the comm you're not an asshole, you don't even have to say anything to them. just stop going to events

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 19:54:36 2019 No.10208427 >>10208320 I agree, but you won't fit into those cute frilly clothes when you're pregnant

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 20:26:30 2019 No.10208460 >>10208098 Materialistic cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 20:29:57 2019 No.10208465 My lolita friends are my best friends but I'm scared they'll find my fetlife and judge

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 21:23:09 2019 No.10208502 >>10208460 Yeah, fuck materialism. I'll date poor guys. They just gotta be hot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 11:31:01 2019 No.10208926 File: 995 KB, 400x241, manaaa.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Forgive me Mana for I have sinned, by sacrificing a brand skirt for OP upsizing alterations. I am weak and do not wish to part with my beloved because I have grown older & wider.

Anonymous Mon Jul 1 13:33:45 2019 No.10208989

When I was 13 my mom wouldn't let me wear lolita because she thought it was sexual and would get very angry with me if I expressed and interest in it and lecture me. Now I am 23 and finally have enough disposable income to start getting into it! I have bought a few Emily temple cute pieces and I can't wait to build the wardrobe I've wanted since I was young.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 15:31:59 2019 No.10209072 File: 11 KB, 401x401, you.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10208460

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:23:53 2019 No.10209205 >>10208465 >they'll find my fetlife you can't even see people's fetlife accounts unless you're on fetlife yourself. they'd be hypocrites

Anonymous Mon Jul 1 18:48:14 2019 No.10209233

>>10208989
hey, same. i'm 18, nearly 19, and my mom says i'm going to/trying to attract pedophiles because i made the mistake of letting the name slip when i was, what, 14? trying to build my first coord.

a few days ago i had out a pair of cabriole heels because i was organizing my shoes and she apparently found the mere THOUGHT of me owning slightly out-there heels with bows on them to be the most hilarious thing she'd ever heard of. she brought in my dad too to make fun of me and kept saying that "when [her] mom found clothes of [hers] she didn't like, she'd just make them disappear." and when i got bangs without her approval she started wailing when she saw me.

anyways, really sorry for blog post. now that i'm working i'm currently saving up to start my own wardrobe, and she'll figure out how to deal with me wearing weird clothes sometimes. i reserved my first brand item recently! congrats on the ETC, i'm sure you'll look great!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:03:46 2019 No.10209277 >>10209233 your mom seems like a narcissistic bitch. It's your life, not hers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:07:42 2019 No.10209281 >>10209277 she's a little (a lot) crazy, yeah. i'm trying to learn to assert myself more, but she's going to have to figure out that i'm my own person eventually.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:30:03 2019 No.10209289 >>10209281 Nyart also got a toxic narcissistic mum who totally projects on cute fashion. Stay strong anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 1 20:32:06 2019 No.10209291 >>10209233 Bangs are good. Fight da powa.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:38:31 2019 No.10209704 >>10209289 thank you <3 i'm going to hopefully move out and in with my SO in the next year or so >>10209291 yes!! once i got them i realized how flattering they were for my face. and a cute hairstyle is such a self-esteem boost, i love it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 10:54:01 2019 No.10209712

>>10209205
Thinking people with no interest in fetish at all have never made fetlife accounts just to snoop there, out people and otherwise be very disruptive . Anon, please.
I'm not into fetish lifestyle but I don't condemn it either. I've had some friends who are legit concerned about someday being outed or exposed and shamed, even though they absolutely keep their kinks properly contained within their own private lives. It's a thing, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 13:55:06 2019 No.10209820 >>10208465 >>10209205 >>10209712 What the fuck is fetlife?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 14:14:27 2019 No.10209836 >>10209820 how the fuck do you not know what fetlife is, are you like 12 or some shit??

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 14:15:04 2019 No.10209838 >>10209820 What the fuck is Google?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 14:16:54 2019 No.10209839 >>10209836 >>10209838 Is this a normie thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 18:31:05 2019 No.10210050 File: 188 KB, 500x500, giphy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10209836

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 21:58:43 2019 No.10210190

>>10209820
It is a community run BDSM social network.
But google IS your friend. Just be logged out of everything to do internet searches and your browsing history and ad sense won’t be as affected by searches like this.
Signed, someone who needs to look up a lot of non-mainstream stuff for work. You’re welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:08:52 2019 No.10210223 >>10210190 So it's limited to BSDM? Lame.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:30:43 2019 No.10210226 My confession is that I spend too much time window shopping and not as much time as I need to at working on my coords. Then I rush in a panic to get ready for a meet and o never feel like I’m looking my best. Why do I do this to myself?

Anonymous Tue Jul 2 23:54:53 2019 No.10210251
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I know I don't look good in the costume and she's not even my favorite girl, but I continue to wear the poorly made cosplay because she's the only black girl in the franchise. I'm happy to see a black girl but I also kind of feel like I have to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 3 01:09:37 2019 No.10210283 >>10204647 If idol threads don’t, should the larp threads disappear, too? Both are centered around similar ideas when you take the theming of each away.

Anonymous Wed Jul 3 03:01:47 2019 No.10210333

>>10210283
Idol threads used to be congruent with the general board when they were about the idols costumes or convention perform. Now it's a bunch of roleplaying wannabe japanese idols reeeee-ing about lovelive because they have to be uwu positive on the oic discord. >>10205128 puts in somewhat right with significantly more vitriol.

The larp threads talk about costuming and events, at least. Idol threads are a bunch of other idols talking shit about their competitors. Its apples to oranges desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:07:53 2019 No.10211105 >>10206151 >cognitive behavior I tried this once and had a panic attack during the session. Not a fan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:16:42 2019 No.10211112 >>10207110 >The last time you posted We're all anon, so you don't actually know the last time I posted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:20:14 2019 No.10211114 >>10209712 >Thinking people with no interest in fetish at all have never made fetlife accounts just to snoop there That's still shitty.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:21:00 2019 No.10211117 I have at least a slight crush on all my female cosplayer friends and I hate it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:21:56 2019 No.10211118 >>10209281 >she's going to have to figure out that i'm my own person eventually. People who are crazy don't do this though.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:35:43 2019 No.10211129
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>>10211117
I have a crush on one of my nerd/gamer friends and I am a lolita. Hes asked me to cosplay things in the past and the only reason I would even want to is to get him to like me but i don't actually know anything about cosplay. Why are we like this anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:38:56 2019 No.10211134 >>10211129 For me it's because I fall for cute people easy, and because the distance between me and friends kinda makes it not a cool idea

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:46:15 2019 No.10211136 File: 34 KB, 400x400, 1555394362140.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10211134 Extremely relatable, the guy I'm into is way too far away to make it a good idea. Stay strong anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:48:11 2019 No.10211137 >>10211136 I will, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 01:50:13 2019 No.10211138 >>10210283 Always pointing at the larp thread is so dumb. They make costumes. All you guys do is bitch.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 02:51:13 2019 No.10211182
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>>10205627
Huh. That's exactly my experience. I have amazing senses of perspective, lighting, and composition, and I was probably the best painter in the entire school at the time. I worked quick and reached near photorealistic detail in few iterations.
However, I cannot into cutsey cartoons or otherwise any heavy abstractions in a "kawaii" tone, and pic related is how I dress every day, which is my confession btw.
I'm not the pic, that's just a random google. I'm more short and skinny and haven't worn makeup a full day ever because I can FEEL IT ON MY FACE AHHHH IT'S TOUCHING ME ENCASING ME NOOOO (no matter how little makeup I feel like I might be dying)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 04:45:41 2019 No.10211230 >>10211129 I wish a lolita had a crush on me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 05:13:58 2019 No.10211240 >>10211112 You said almost the exact same sentence to state your shit opinion. That's what I meant with last time, but nice try at shifting the topic.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 14:21:19 2019 No.10211530

I'm mildly right wing. Do right leaning lolitas exist?

I get along even with the most radical lefties in my comm, simply because I avoid politics at all costs but at the same time I wish I could find someone I could just freely talk about everything. I feel a bit like a hypocrite being around people I know would despise me if they knew my true alignments and it sucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 14:22:44 2019 No.10211531 >>10211182 are you okay dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 14:38:49 2019 No.10211546 >>10211530 Of course they do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 14:46:16 2019 No.10211553 >>10211240 How do you know it was me though. You still don't have any proof. You don't even know that you're talking to the same person in this thread.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 14:51:47 2019 No.10211561
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>go to con with a bf for the first time
>bf is an amazingly sweet person to me and think is the one
>at con, rooming with 4 other people besides us
>bf keeps vaping on the balcony and brings secret booze even though I specifically told him not to
>he's constantly drunk/high the entire time
>worried entire time roommates would get mad or he'd risk us getting in trouble with the hotel/kicked out
>mfw I might not invite him next year
I feel bad because he wanted to learn more about my interests and be more involved but there was only maybe 5 hours besides when we slept where he wasn't zooted...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 15:23:32 2019 No.10211579 >>10211561 Ew ew ew ew ew break up with him wtf are you doing dating a druggie do you have no self respect

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 15:24:14 2019 No.10211580

>>10211530
even some of those radical lefties probably have views closer to yours than you think, it really depends in what ways you lean right. obviously people aren’t going to be stupid enough to wear their MAGA coord to a meet on the west coast. get to know people better in private and see where they really stand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 15:29:54 2019 No.10211590 >>10211561 you can do better than this mess of a guy. dump him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 15:44:06 2019 No.10211606 I wear mezzo piano shirts under my JSKs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 15:54:10 2019 No.10211613 >>10211580 Honestly this. I’m a lefty but I also hold some “right wing” views. At least that’s what my very far left friends tell me. Although desu, it’s probably more center of left than flat out far right.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 16:22:13 2019 No.10211644

>>10211530
Yes, we do exist anon. I personally do not speak of politics with people I do not know, as not everyone can look past other people having opposing viewpoints. I also live in a very liberal hellhole, where lefties are known for running around and beating people up or starting shit just because you think differently... which is hilarious to me because they are doing what they say the right-wing people do. Anyway, we are out here!

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 16:55:34 2019 No.10211675

>>10211530
I'm a tree. do tree lolitas exist?

I get along even with the most radical lumberjacks in my comm, simply because I avoid de-foresting talk at all costs but at the same time I wish I could find someone I could just freely sway my leaves with. I feel a bit like a hypocrite being around people I know would cut me down if they knew the truth and it sucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 16:59:00 2019 No.10211678 >>10211675 >lolita “””humor”””

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:15:01 2019 No.10211689

>>10211530
are you into social/moral conservatism or economic conservatism? I imagine it's social, since people don't often talk about being communist during meets and whatnot. I think it would help if you could expand on why you're right wing?
I think lolitas are socially left leaning most of the time, most of us can agree from experience that's the case.
Regardless someone "despising" you because you are mildly, not even extremely, right wing...that's silly to me, honestly. You wouldn't want to involve yourself with people like that, anyways. You shouldn't feel like you need to hide a part of yourself to appease people. I'm a leftist and I think it would be more productive to talk out social issues, I wouldn't hate someone over politics...A lot of people don't share that sentiment, especially in the USA where it seems like politics is everything to some people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 17:28:15 2019 No.10211694 File: 198 KB, 1024x683, 1468137355479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10211182 Sure you were. Why are you on this board if you can't dress yourself? >>10211230 I wish the person I had a crush on felt the same as you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 18:51:44 2019 No.10211770 >>10211530 Shouldn't lolitas primarily be right leaning? Lolita fashion and culture is the antithesis of everything the left preaches nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 18:53:23 2019 No.10211772 >>10211770 Have you ever met a Lolita? Or even know the fashion at all? It’s very left leaning in mindset and concept.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 18:58:02 2019 No.10211773 >>10204734 What I'm getting from this thread: never let anyone know what dress you like and snipe it last minute.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:03:21 2019 No.10211774

>>10211770
Lolita culture is super far left, even to me it's so weird it's almost to a fault.

>talking at a party about something I think it was something about DBZ or something
>make obvious joke like "yeah maga build that wall right?"
>clearly said it in a joke redneck hick voice to the stupid shit we were talking about making fun of the right
>get called a racist asshole
>friends and I start laughing, and say it was obviously a joke
>"that's not something you joke about it's not funny to hate minorities ever"
>storms off pissed

I basically stay away from lolita culture in general because I think on one hand I can count actual good experiences I've had with it at cons over the past 5 or 6 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:08:08 2019 No.10211776 >>10206881 Lol people like you are pretty much why I don't go to comms in the first place because I don't want to hang out with people who are probably judgey ass people who will just fake smile at you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:11:50 2019 No.10211778 >>10211774 Lolitas don’t have a sense of humor. This board proves it time and time again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:15:40 2019 No.10211783 >>10211770 I don't understand why it would be. I generally see leftys as more ok with strange forms of dress than conservatives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:26:01 2019 No.10211797 >>10211770 I wish. But you'd be surprised how many lolitas are openly druggies and other tacky liberal shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:27:04 2019 No.10211801 >>10211797 how is that shocking? it's an alternative fashion. there's nothing "conservative" about it except modesty. people look at you like you're a freak, and dressing that way is not sticking to the status quo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:29:57 2019 No.10211803 >>10211801 Sorry that I didn't expect filthy druggies in a fashion that's about clean-cut cutesy princessy clothes. That kind of personality doesn't exactly match the regal aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:30:38 2019 No.10211804 >>10211801 It's almost like people come here to pretend to be right wing Republicans but have never actually met one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:39:44 2019 No.10211812 >>10211803 then you're a fucking retard. it's an alt fashion that has heavy punk influence. are we allowed to drink or does alcohol not count as a drug to you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:45:12 2019 No.10211816 >>10211812 It's a Japanese alt fashion. Drug use is not at all common in Japan, especially not open and proud drug use as in America. Again, doesn't really match up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:45:21 2019 No.10211817 >>10211803 Thinking looks/aesthetic and personality usually align in the slightest is pretty naive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:46:45 2019 No.10211820 >>10211816 It's also an American alt fashion, unless you think people commonly wear it here. And you're not answering, does alcohol "not count" as a drug to you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:47:05 2019 No.10211821 >>10211816 God go move to nippon if you care so much. They love gajin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:50:58 2019 No.10211824 >>10211816 idk but when I went to Japan, there were plenty of people on drugs at the shows I went to like any other alt scene

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:53:01 2019 No.10211830 >>10211816 flip through a fruits magazine and you'll see plenty of Japanese potheads wearing grateful dead bears

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:54:54 2019 No.10211834

>>10211816
Well drinking is actually common in Japan. And alcohol is way trashier than people make it out to be.
I'd rather hang out with someone that smokes weed than someone who drinks fucking box wine and justifies it by saying cliche shit like "its good for your heart" and "they drink it in France with every meal!!"
Shit kills your brain cells. And its obvious whenever you talk to a casual drinker who is on the verge of becoming an alcoholic.

I've met way more lolitas who drink than I have ones that smoked weed.

I've met none who do coke/meth/heroin or any actual hardcore drug.

And then I've met loads of cosplayers who do molly cause of rave culture.

And all the alcoholics were still worse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:56:49 2019 No.10211837 >>10211803 lmao @ lolitas that become so delusional that they actually believe they're princesses

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 19:59:42 2019 No.10211840 >>10211834 >Shit kills your brain cells so does weed. just sayin. better off not doing either one of course

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:07:24 2019 No.10211850

>>10211816
>Drug use is not at all common in Japan
lol, I take it you don't go clubbing much do you? I know even places in asakusa that will hook you up, way easier in osaka's red light district though.

Get a load of this dood.

also
>thinking lolita is alt fashion in japan
Please venture to more places than shibuya and akihabara/namba

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:11:55 2019 No.10211853 >>10211840 >so does weed No, it really doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:12:06 2019 No.10211854 >>10211812 It's always confused me as to why lolita is so heavily associated with punk subculture? Gothic I can understand due to Mana, but sweet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:13:27 2019 No.10211856 >>10211853 there are several studies that show it does kill brain cells and causes memory loss. can't fight science, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:15:09 2019 No.10211857 >>10211850 What are the "real" alt fashions then?

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:17:01 2019 No.10211860

>>10211856
There are also studies that show the opposite but whatever. You're only going to believe what you want and I'm not here to convert you.

Just pointing out that the anon who is obviously trolling is being too extreme and obvious because of the typical 4chan "degenerate druggies" meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:18:06 2019 No.10211863 >>10211856 Forgot to add. It really only effects short term memory loss. And that's really only for some people.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:20:32 2019 No.10211868

>>10211857
Probably classify it with the self harm shit, ito level crap, western shit as well. I'm not sure what anyone means by 'alternative cosplay' in japan(or most places for that matter) though since it's pretty much all fair game depending the circle they follow is doing.

One thing I never understand is why in the west lolita's brag about self made cosplay when in japan it's much better to have something made for you/ordered. Every Kancolle, reitaisai, shazam/JCC, comiket, I've been to most people have obviously prebought shit that got fixed up by a tailor or someone not them. It's always weird to me going to an american con and someone asking if my dress was self made.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:25:32 2019 No.10211872 >>10211854 pick up a fucking glb for once, im so tired of roleplayers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:27:06 2019 No.10211874 >>10211854 it's like a game of telephone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:31:49 2019 No.10211877 >>10211854 sweet branched out from original gothic and punk lolita, even though the latter are much less popular than sweet now, they were the originals

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:33:33 2019 No.10211878

>>10206081
Eh, I'm in a similar boat and probably due to similar reasons. I feel like if it's not something that is harming anyone or preventing your growth or keeping you from important responsibilities, there is no obligation to adhere to social standards when it comes to interests, preference in dress, hobbies, how your home is decorated, or how you spend your time.

You could be overthinking, worried too much about the vocal minority. But If you feel it is genuinely something that's holding you back or is particularly bothersome, I would talk to a therapist. On the other hand, don't feel that you need to change who you are in order to be acceptable. I know pieces of shit who look down on things that I do (toy collecting/restoration, lolita, cosplay, anime, love for animation), but they can't pay their bills, keep a job, or support their children.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:36:13 2019 No.10211881

>>10211580
True. It's such a dilemma though. You'll never know the outcome if you don't take that initial risk of potentially trusting the wrong person. It's like playing Russian roulette.

>>10211644
This sounds very familiar, anon. I'm glad you are out there!

>>10211689
I'm from Germany, and let me tell you that being conservative is a huge no-go over here. You'd be branded as a nazi on top of committing social suicide and potentially having your career ruined.

Now to answer your question: I derive my views from common sense. They happen to be conservative, because, while I admire leftists being so compassionate and humanely empathetic, a factual discussion usually ends or escalates where their emotions begin. Even their energy politics are not sustainable nor logical; but try to point this out with some facts, and you are being defamed, just being called stupid or even laughed at.

I'd say I'm more socially conservative as I want the culture and traditions of my country to be preserved. I don't mind some exterior influences as long as the core culture persists and is held high in value. But as you might know... self hate is a big thing in many Germans because of our history. This aspect of our culture is so depressing and fatalistic. And it's also a reason why we have so many self-hating lefsits... But anyways, I'm also pro family, lower taxes, less government (but not to the extent of a libertarian). There are some progressive values that go too far imo and I wouldn't like having them being enforced onto my kids. Hope you get the idea...

The Lolitas that I know are very left leaning and I would be very radical in their eyes if I outed myself.

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:50:39 2019 No.10211898

>>10206081
yeah I feel this a little. My childhood isn't really that bad I never got assaulted in anyway but still lived with pretty repressive people and was like homeschooled and shit so didn't really age in a normal way. Like lately I've found that like sleeping with plushies in bed is kinda comforting and it's like god what am I 5?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:55:59 2019 No.10211905 >>10211881 Like I'm super lefty but I don't mind conservative people so long as they aren't anti-lgbt so that rules out most.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 20:59:15 2019 No.10211910 >>10211905 Depends what you mean by anti-lgbt...

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 21:34:40 2019 No.10211928

>>10211910
if there is a depends on what I mean then yeah you prob aren't a good fit for the community. Like alt fashions tend to draw people who who don't like super fit in places so like if you aren't anti-lgbt just kindly stay away or go form your own conservative community.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 21:43:44 2019 No.10211931 Confession; I ended up ugly crying because I missed AX, and my brother got mad enough to disconnect my computer

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 22:04:25 2019 No.10211939

>>10211898
You're a grown-ass adult, it doesn't matter whether you sleep with stuffed animals or an anime body pillow or on the floor. Don't shame yourself out of small comforts just because of what others might think.

>>10211797
>>10211803
Takemoto Novala has definitely never contributed to lolita or smoked weed, at least not on this good Christian Persian rug discussion board. In fact, alternative fashions are totally apolitical!

Anonymous Thu Jul 4 22:09:43 2019 No.10211943

>>10211939
And what happened after he got caught with drugs?

>Takemoto's arrest has had serious repercussions for his career. Baby, The Stars Shine Bright has removed any mention of affiliation, such as his Pour Lolita and Hello Kitty lines, from their website. Takemoto's website was also shut down for an extended period of time

Drugs are not acceptable in Japanese society as a whole. It's considered a shameful thing that only degenerates do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 4 23:24:14 2019 No.10212005 >>10211816 Wait, so by wearing lolita we're actually... role playing as Japanese people?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 00:46:47 2019 No.10212090 >>10212005 We're roleplaying the japanese roleplaying as westerners

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 02:07:03 2019 No.10212168 [DELETED]

>>10204640
I think I accidentally annoyed people in a JPN fandom, I don't know who they are but I have seen screenshots they posted of me, treating me like a lolcow.

I still don't know who they are, but they actually live near me so I feel threatened, my dad knows and he says that cyberstalking means nothing so I have to forget it and move on.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 02:19:33 2019 No.10212182

>>10211834
I'm actually a lolita who has suffered with hard drug addictions, so we do exist but we are rare and in my experience with others who are the same, it only stems from growing up in a really abusive environment and being too depressed and being unable to care enough about your own health to let it get out of hand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 02:21:47 2019 No.10212184 >>10211854 >due to mana you know lolita existed before mana started his lolita brand right? are you retarded? the amount of stupidity is insane

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:01:24 2019 No.10212212 >>10211905 >I'm super lefty Why? >anti-lgbt What do you mean by this?

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:07:22 2019 No.10212216

>>10212212
>Why?
because I have better things to do then be angry at minorities.
>What do you mean by this?
ie hate fags and trannys. Like I don't really care what people think about economics or whatever political shit but like if you're against people just living their life that's annoying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:09:51 2019 No.10212219 >>10211778 I wish you were wrong

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:15:27 2019 No.10212222 >>10211812 Didn't lolita fashion originate in Japan? Japanese culture is heavily against recreational drug use, and rightly so.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:17:28 2019 No.10212224 >>10212222 drugs are fine get over yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:20:31 2019 No.10212226 >>10212216 >because I have better things to do then be angry at minorities What does that have to do with right wing or left wing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:21:09 2019 No.10212227 >>10212226 cus at least here that's pretty much half of what the right wing does.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:22:28 2019 No.10212228 >>10204673 I’m wishing so hard for this to be true

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:22:47 2019 No.10212230 >>10212224 Some drugs are dangerous to the people using them, and everyone else around them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:25:33 2019 No.10212231 >>10212227 If that's the case, it still doesn't make sense to adopt opposing political views simply because you don't like the behaviour of some right wing people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 03:32:32 2019 No.10212241 >>10212231 Eh I mean there are plenty of other reasons I’m left. It’s just like the shit I care about is the most is leaving people alone so until the republicans leave people alone I could never see myself voting for them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:07:58 2019 No.10212258 >>10212224 your parents must be so proud

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:15:11 2019 No.10212264 >>10212258 I don’t even do drugs lol. I just don’t care if people do. Like stay way from the hard stuff like coke and heroin because those will fuck up your life but I don’t care if some raver pops an XTC or whatever.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:15:44 2019 No.10212266

>>10211834
Have you considered that., maybe weed and alcohol is easily accessible than cocaine and herion?

I hate all alcoholics and druggies and i refuse to be associated with people who engage in such useless and destructive habits. They are just as bad as obese people when they defend their addictions, fucking pathetic. Why destroy your body with terrible chemicals when you can be buying brand?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:19:40 2019 No.10212270 >>10212264 that's nice. some of us prefer to be around quality people instead

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 04:47:15 2019 No.10212274 >>10212270 Please remove the stick from your ass it seems uncomfortable. Someone occasionally useing drugs doesn’t make them a bad person

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 05:55:08 2019 No.10212287 File: 278 KB, 957x1300, 1468172532922.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10212241 >until the republicans leave people alone How nice it'd be to see everything so black and white

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 08:52:14 2019 No.10212319

>>10211878
>On the other hand, don't feel that you need to change who you are in order to be acceptable
I used to believe this but ever since I actually immersed myself into society, getting a job and trying to be an adult - I've found most people will go out of their way to ignore you if they don't like something about you.
I have no friends outside of my boyfriend and I'm trying to make more but I'm always off putting in some way to people and it makes me feel like an annoying child.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 08:53:26 2019 No.10212321 >>10212266 So would you stop hanging out with someone if they started smoking weed because they have cancer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 09:17:22 2019 No.10212325 >>10212321 Are you referring to a cancer patient as a druggie?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 09:36:02 2019 No.10212331 >>10208098 depending on your cuteness that should not be a problem

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 10:52:18 2019 No.10212370 >>10212266 this larper thinks we’re too poor on this board to buy weed and burando at the same time huh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 11:24:48 2019 No.10212386 >>10212287 Sorry that I’m not concerned enough about the great replacement to vote for a party that thinks global warming is fake and that it’s cool to have an anti-gay Vice President.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 12:03:50 2019 No.10212427

>>10211881
>I derive my views from common sense.
What common sense exactly? Also what is your definition of "pro family", because where i'm from that's a very exclusionary idea. Not everyone can have the nuclear family.

How often do you get laughed at irl? not online.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 12:07:57 2019 No.10212430

>>10211816
most lolitas wear lolita as a fun fashion. Lolita isn't a personality, it's just clothing. We don't suddenly have to adopt personality traits to wear the fashion or be more "lolita". we don't worship the japanese like you do.
Btw I don't drink or do drugs, but it's so pathetic reading people here actually try to say lolitas need to stop doing drugs because their clothes are japanese. There are other reasons people shouldn't do drugs. There's also reasons why people choose to indulge in drugs/alcohol. It's harmful to them, and no one else. So why get so offended by it? Classic "lolitas are lovelies" argument.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 12:49:06 2019 No.10212463

>>10212319
Here's a fun fact. You don't need to have everyone like you. It's also possible to befriend people where your interests don't even overlap, but you enjoy their company. Being an adult and immersing yourself in society doesn't mean removing your interests to blend in. That's high school behavior. Rather, it means accepting yourself while also broadening your horizons so there are more points to relate. You may be off-putting to others. But also consider they might be off-putting in different ways to different people. That's also fine. It may feel like your greater issue is regressing, but it may also be that other factors have prevented you from experiencing more in life. Some of that comes with age and time. For that, I don't have any real advice to give except maybe to find friends in similar life stages.

There was a period where I did feel similar to what you're describing. My friends were online or from conventions. I didn't have many friends remaining from high school (this was prior to social media). I don't recall making many significant friendships in work or even in college outside of my anime club. After I'd been working in a supervisory sort of role for about ten years, I found myself making connections with people outside the nerd circle. I have people I consider friends who I share no common interests with, other than we worked together and want to keep in touch after I left the company.

I hope you can get these things sorted out. I think therapy can help, especially if you are struggling with past trauma. I'm finally getting help myself and going through a period of self-evaluation.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 14:53:09 2019 No.10212542

>>10212325
Well if people who smoke weed are druggies like >>10212266 said

>>10212370
It's always hilarious to me how much most gulls don't seem to know about weed. It's so much cheaper than brand. I'm not rich by any means but I can totally afford to fill my closet and buy weed at the same time.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 14:54:33 2019 No.10212545

>>10211928
Anon is right by asking you to clarify, though. Maybe you live under a rock, bit in the past year some lgbt activists have been trying to get pedos or "pedosexuals" recognized as a legitimate sexuality under the lgbt umbrella, and there isn't much outrage around this, but people are losing their minds over a straight pride parade. There is definitely a limit on how much I support the lgbt community, and that is where I draw the line. Also not a fan of the recent trend of shitting on cis/straight people for fun, that's not cool and only lessens the support the community wants from allies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 14:59:22 2019 No.10212553 >>10212545 this is some debunked fake shit. it's all /b/tards and redditfags doing it for the lols.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:00:35 2019 No.10212612 >>10212553 pretty much this. These all sound like conservative radio scare talking points or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 16:09:55 2019 No.10212623 >>10212430 >It's harmful to them, and no one else. this isn't true tho. it can hurt everyone around them like significant others and family. especially drugs that cause trips can induce rape and murder under the influence sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 18:47:41 2019 No.10212743 >>10212553 No the fuck it isn't. God I hate people like you. Stop spreading misinformation just because you think something is outlandish. Pedos hang out in groups and they do push for acceptance. My dad is a pedo. I've seen this shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 18:52:09 2019 No.10212749 >>10212743 They do push for this shit, but the pedosexual thing is literally /b/ nonsense meant to fuck with actual lgbt people

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 19:04:16 2019 No.10212759 >>10212749 It's not you fucking asshole. You're letting 4chan board culture and misinformation get to your head. Unless you also have a family member that participates in the online pedo community- you wouldn't fucking know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 5 19:05:56 2019 No.10212760 >>10212759 i've literally seen the fucking threads, you dumb bint.

Anonymous Fri Jul 5 19:46:30 2019 No.10212782

>>10212759
I have no doubts that shit is out there on the internet. Hell I wouldn’t even be shocked if pedos tried to work their way into lgbt like nambla or some shit. But atm pedo acceptance is pretty non-exsistance. There is some amount of pity for them around the edges but that’s more related to feeling bad for people who ended up unlucky and fucked in the head.

Anonymous Sat Jul 6 00:04:28 2019 No.10213063

>>10212782
>Hell I wouldn’t even be shocked if pedos tried to work their way into lgbt like nambla or some shit.
Oh they absolutely fucking will. The strategies used by said groups have already proven to be effective at normalizing things that society finds abhorrent. All they really need is someone with a lot of money or influence to back them up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 05:57:16 2019 No.10213374 >>10212759 >>10212743 Yes it is. They had several threads to organize themselves and where and what to write.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 08:33:41 2019 No.10213419 >>10212760 >>10213374 Those are larpers. I've seen what they actually do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 08:34:47 2019 No.10213421 >>10212782 >>10213063 You realize in some countries it is already normalized? Where do you think the trafficking goes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 10:48:53 2019 No.10213488 >>10213421 In third world shit holes where the gov doesn’t care?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 6 14:11:09 2019 No.10213626 >>10213488 God you don't know anything. Little girls get shipped to those countries.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 08:03:49 2019 No.10215545 File: 81 KB, 292x300, 265+177126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I had the thought of getting some old black bavarian/german tracht and tacticooling it. It honestly seems like the best idea or an absolute death-sin.

Anonymous Mon Jul 8 10:35:48 2019 No.10215580
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I cheated on my bf at AX and thought that I'd be able to just forget about it once the weekend was over as a "what happens in vegas stays in vegas" thing but the guilt is killing me so much and it's only day 1. What the fuck did I do? I'm sorry Steven, thought I'd just keep it a secret to my grave but you'll find this post and put the pieces together. I still love you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 10:36:54 2019 No.10215581 >>10215580 Didn't check if the thread was on autosage or not but glad it is. I'll leave things to fate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 10:37:02 2019 No.10215582 >>10215580 You done goofed now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 8 10:40:32 2019 No.10215586 File: 25 KB, 349x349, 1551114099525.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10215582 I know.I goofted really fucking hard. Thanks for letting me know someone saw my confession.

Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:48:41 2019 No.10216782 [DELETED]

>>10204640
Hello retards, yall made me want to become a weeb finally after more than a decade of trying to resist to join the shitty asian pop culture by looking at shit coords and small hairy asian dicks, but I can’t right now resist anything and I want to dress like the hoes do in larme kei for normie attire and also like that autist mana and unironically since I hate thotstagram I want to learn japanese so I can read kawaii magazines uwu
Hope yall got cancer from reading this, and I hope you actually do since I am getting cancer from this nipfever. Fuck korea japan is the best etcetcetc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 9 13:52:25 2019 No.10216785 >>10216782 God I hope you get banned for making me read this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 14 16:28:09 2019 No.10221503 File: 63 KB, 475x356, 30a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10215580 > I still love you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 14:50:13 2019 No.10221503,1 hey, does anyone of you know about the place where I could find a lot of confessions? Simply I would like to read a lot of anonymous confessions to be convinced that I'm ready to make my own confession?

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