What is the age limit for cosplaying/lolita?

[Anonymous No.10042667]

>inb4 you can never be too old

No seriously, how old do you have to be before it just starts to look creepy and sad?

[Anonymous No.10042676]

honestly? as long as you keep the age of the characters you're cosplaying in line with your own (e.g: leaving teenage fotm characters to the actual teens) you can theoretically keep it up your entire life. there are certain characters who really do benefit from an older looking cosplayer

[Anonymous No.10042687]

I think it depends on your substyle
Sweet is probably fine until you've got distinct wrinkles
Classic and gothic are probably fine no matter how old you are, people will just look at you like a renaissance/ww1 re-enactor/etc
And then once you're 70, you can wear sweet again, it's just silly and cute and people will think you're harmlessly senile

[Anonymous No.10042690]

>>10042687
I would say the same. Older ladies can look very nice in classic, as long as they have bras that fit and have kept at least slightly in shape. That one lolita whose mom dressed in classic is such fucking goals, wish my gram would wear one of my long IW dresses and go to tea with me.
>tfw the old bird hated dresses even when she was young and detests milk in her tea
a gull can dream I guess

[Anonymous No.10042699]

As long as you adjust your style and tastes to better suit your age, then there’s no limit.

Sweet for babby noobs, classic for women who’ve matured in style and gothic for the hags who’ve got retirement to blow before planning their Moitie funerals.

Personally I plan on quitting once I crap out my first troll. I’m not going to be that freak outcast mom at PTA meetings.

[Anonymous No.10042702]

>>10042699
I'm hoping a significant number of lolitas stay childless spinsters so we can be roommates and look after each other as we get older

[Anonymous No.10042713]

>>10042699
>Going to PTA meetings even once

There are plenty of lolita moms. You just have to be careful which pieces you wear around the kids, or teach them not to fuck with your stuff. Having mom friends who like your style happens

[Anonymous No.10042728]

Lolita is fashion. It's just clothes. There's no age limit.

[Anonymous No.10042729]

>>10042667
i'd say above 25 and you are just creepy. especially for men

[Anonymous No.10042734]

>>10042729
25?? How old are you??

[Anonymous No.10042743]

>>10042728
This anon gets it

>>10042729
You must be 18 to use this board.

[Anonymous No.10042769]

>>10042702
I’d be open to the idea if my fiance didn’t want kids while all my friends and younger siblings are already having them.

>>10042713
I know a few and that’s great and all but personally, it’s just not for me. Both mine and my fiance’s family are very supportive of me being in lolita, they love it on me and are always encouraging me while my fiance gives me a monthly budget for brand but I can’t see either side thinking it’s very “mature” or responsible to continue it while having kid(s) and especially if I decide to be a stay at home mom.

My comm has several moms in it and we make most meets family friendly to accommodate them as most are strapped for cash and can’t afford babysitters. They get no leisure at meets because their attention is focused only on their kid and aren’t able to converse or get to know anyone. Financially I’m fine but I never want to end up in that awkward situation. Plus I don’t want my kid(s) friends parents looking me up on social media before a slumber party to make sure I’m not some psycho criminal and discovering my lolita photos and immediately assuming I must be some gross, ageplay whore. I’d hate for my kids to go through anything awful because of my frivolous hobby.

[Anonymous No.10042771]

Just chiming in that I don't think the woman in OP's picture looks creepy or sad, just in case she lurks.

I'm in my 30s and I still happily wear Lolita. I'm lucky that I don't look older than my mid-20s I guess, but I know this won't last forever.
I don't like flashy sweet, so my wardrobe is already kind of "mature" by Lolita standards.

And as for cosplay, just stay within your age bracket with the characters you choose. Let the whippersnappers dress as idols and cutesy things. We have our own options.

[Anonymous No.10042782]

depends on how you look imo

like when i think "older" i think of that dumpy middle age weight distribution/gain; if you can keep your figure and keep up your skincare you'll look great regardless. there will always be haters but i don't think you have to look young to look good in lolita, you just have to not look dumpy and saggy

i've seen girls in their early 20s who look rough and dumpy already, and girls in their late 30s/early 40s who look amazing

[Anonymous No.10042783]

>>10042702
I just had my salpingectomy done last month! I'll be a child free lolita forever

[Anonymous No.10042804]

I've written a whole blog post on this but the short answer is the only limit you have is the one you give yourself. As long as you feel happy wearing lolita (or cosplaying) you should definitely keep doing that. Signs of age mean nothing unless you give them a meaning. Old =/= ugly. Having a hobby could actually help you age well.

[Anonymous No.10042984]

No age limit, as long as you are pretty.

If one woman would be just as cute as Anzu, she could be 40 and I would see no problem.

[Anonymous No.10043003]

>>10042729
>tfw 25 but look 16
I’ll get away with cosplay forever

[Anonymous No.10043009]

>>10042676
This. For cosplaying the answer is simply to keep picking older characters as you get older and you'll never get too old.

[Anonymous No.10043017]

I kinda feel sorry for people limiting themselves with age like this. I mean I'm in my late 30s, I look about 25, and no, I don't pull off a teen anymore, but why should I stop having fun just because I'm not impressing someone or living up to their standards? I cosplay the characters I like because I like them. Any attention I get is just a bonus, but I'm doing this for myself first and foremost. I'll never have the body I want for half my dream cosplays, but it's also a fun challenge to craft and use makeup to get as much detail right as I can. I have aged myself to be old people, and dressed as teens, I've done monster costumes and armor. I'm nobody special, there are people whose work blow me out of the water, but you know what? I'm having fun, and I won't be stopping any time soon! Do what makes you happy. It's only when you can't enjoy it anymore that you probably might want to reevaluate why you're in the hobby.

[Anonymous No.10043230]

>tfw 24 and feel like an old spinster

[Anonymous No.10043232]

>>10042676
This. Don't try to cosplay 14yo as a 40yo and you're fine. Adults cosplaying as adults characters, teenagers cosplaying as teenagers characters, boomers cosplaying as boomers characters. It works.

And personally, seeing someone older (like 50+) cosplaying is more wholesome than anything else.

[Anonymous No.10043237]

>>10042984
damn you really have a boner for anzu the anachan dont you

[Anonymous No.10043252]

>>10043017
I really like your mindset.
I'd like to add, yes you'll look bad in some specific styles/coords and cosplays, we all have things that don't suit us (because bodytype,age,...). You can still do it tho,no one's stopping you. Even though I recommend minding those things because you kinda wanna have fun while knowing you look good yanno. In the end if you have fun hey that's all that matters, we're all nerds in costumes and silly clothes at the end of the day

[Anonymous No.10043277]

>>10043230
same here

[Anonymous No.10043292]

>>10043237
Yea, she perfect

[Anonymous No.10043350]

>>10043237
not to white knight anzu but she admitted she has a love/hate relationship with food awhile back on tumblr, which I admire her for. It’s something most actual lolitas and cosplayers are hesitant to admit.

[Anonymous No.10043446]

(art by art.mady on fb)

[Anonymous No.10043481]

>>10043350
>most actual lolitas and cosplayers are hesitant to admit

why is this "admirable" to "admit"? not saying the opposite is or isn't but people's mental and physical health isn't the public's business and it's up to the individual how open they want to be online.

[Anonymous No.10043501]

>>10042667
Old lolitas, especially the ones with grey hair, always get positive reactions

[Anonymous No.10043507]

>>10042782
Skin depends much more on genetics than skincare

[Anonymous No.10043509]

>>10043009
I actually think it would be really fun to see old/adult versions of characters

[Anonymous No.10043520]

>>10043481
Because if you don't say something publicly, then salty gulls speculate and rip you apart in /cgl/.

[Anonymous No.10045101]

>>10043009
Santa Claus. All right!

[Anonymous No.10045110]

>>10042782
Protip from an oldfag: If you're older and getting that middle-aged bod, do work out but also invest the price of a new brand dress and accessories in a good quality custom-made corset. Do your research, read Lucy's Corsetry, and make all the youngsters in your comm wonder how you do it.

[Anonymous No.10045123]

>>10042667
>No seriously, how old do you have to be before it just starts to look creepy and sad?
7

[Anonymous No.10045214]

>>10045110
More people should do this desu. Especially if you're near the top of the shirring range of a dress a corset will usually reduce your measurements but will help smooth any lumps and avoid the sausage effect you can get with shirring

[Anonymous No.10045217]

>>10045214
I'm an idiot. Meant to say
>Especially if you're near the top of the shirring range of a dress a corset WON'T NECESSARILY reduce your measurements by much but will help smooth any lumps and avoid the sausage effect you can get with shirring

[Anonymous No.10045227]

>>10045217
Nayrt but if you wear a corset for at least an hour or two every day or every other day, your uncinched waist measurement will shrink as well. When I was wearing 50cm corsets every day, my natural waist went from 61cm to 55cm within a couple of months. Pic related is Ethel Granger in her 60s or 70s.

[Anonymous No.10045228]

>>10042667
Classic and gothic can still look good into your thirties. You should stop wearing sweet around the time you enter secondary school though.

[Anonymous No.10045274]

>>10042699
>I plan on quitting once I crap out my first troll
God,I can't wait to you introduce another snarky asshole just like yourself. If that's how you see it, don't bother having kids, you moron. You can always NOT do that, ya know.

[Anonymous No.10045277]

>>10042769
>we make most meets family friendly to accommodate them as most are strapped for cash and can’t afford babysitters
This sounds horrifying on every level. Holy fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.10045282]

>>10042667
If you're over 18 you should just kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.10045286]

>>10045274
nayrt but jesus christ, calm down. it's called a sense of humor. people in their 20s right now are surrounded by a majority of friends who aggressively don't want children and unironically use such language to describe kids, it's extremely normal for someone who wants kids to mockingly use the same.

[Anonymous No.10045335]

>>10045101
I mean if you're really old man tier, just off the top of my head, you could try Uncle Iroh, Gandalf, Dumbledore, Obi-wan, Old Snake, Bill from L4D, Geralt, Old Ezio, Professor Oak, 3rd Hokage, Jiraiya, Master Roshi, there's plenty of older characters that are good cosplay material.

[Anonymous No.10045470]

>>10045286
I don't want kids either but it's because I know better. That other anon is treating it like pushing one out is the obligation of life which tells me they probably don't actually want the kid. They just want that parent lifestyle. Which sucks ass for the kid.

[Anonymous No.10045555]

When I'm dead

[Anonymous No.10045562]

>>10045335
Damn, I never thought about it before but literally all my favourite characters are old men!?

[Anonymous No.10045567]

>>10045470
>They just want that parent lifestyle
Like it's glamorous at all? I highly doubt that

[Anonymous No.10045577]

>>10045470
>I know better
>parenting as a lifestyle aesthetic

I think you're 14 and a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.10045582]

>>10045110
>>10045227
That rib cage to waist to hip ratio is creeping me out, though. It makes her top look boxy, and her hips look huge. I wonder how strong her spine is for that matter.

[Anonymous No.10045607]

I wish the 35 year old grannies would stop with the sexy cosplays

Like its cool if you want to still play dress up and go to cons but no one wants to see your saggy tits and ass anymore

[Anonymous No.10045608]

>>10042782
>i've seen girls in their early 20s who look rough and dumpy already, and girls in their late 30s/early 40s who look amazing
Trufax. Taking care of yourself (and by this I mean actually eating properly and exercising a bit; anachans need not apply) really does set you apart in your late 20s onwards. Skin is a bit of a genetic lottery, but there's a lot more to looking presentable that simply looking "youthful" e.g.
>>10045110

>>10042984
>implying Anzu will live to 40

>>10042702
t h i s

[Anonymous No.10045632]

>>10045577

>>10045470 phrased it badly, but it does sound like >>10042699 from how she describes who should dress as what really ascribes to social norms of how people should act and applies that logic to silly anime dresses. She might also feel that obligation to have a child, and judging from how she half jokes about not wanting to be an outcast mom at PTA meetings, may crave social acceptance.

But hey it's one post on an armenian swimming board. I might be completely wrong, but it's fun to point out why one post gives that impression.

[Anonymous No.10045658]

>>10045582
This pic >>10045227 is Ethel Granger, the woman with the smallest proven waist. Yes, she looks super weird. That was her goal, most people who wear corsets don't look like that. It is very possible to wear a corset for the smoothing effect rather than for waist training or high reductions. The girl in this pic >>10045110 for example is naturally pear-shaped with large breasts, the corset does smooth out her shape and make it look dramatic, but I wouldn't say it makes her look boxy or crazy like Ethel. When it comes to lolita, it's better to think of a corset in the way historical reenactors do rather than waist trainers or tightlacers: it provides a strong shape for your clothes to lay over. Pic related is from a very good blog post about this by The Pragmatic Costumer, here's a link https://thepragmaticcostumer.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/with-and-without-how-wearing-a-corset-affects-you-and-your-clothes/

[Anonymous No.10045698]

>>10045658
>https://thepragmaticcostumer.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/with-and-without-how-wearing-a-corset-affects-you-and-your-clothes/

That was an interesting read, thanks. I can see how some larger chested girls might want one, but for me I'll pass. I'm mostly concerned about what the article addressed about wearing them often and muscular strength in the core. Relying on the corset all day lets your muscles become lax. And given that most lolita isn't super heavy, there's not a lot of need for it to support the weight. I do get why it works for some people, but it's not for me.

[Anonymous No.10045704]

>>10042729
what the fuck hahaha the majority of Lolitas are in their 20s because that's the age in which a lot of people become financially stable.

Something tells me that you're a babby that relies on mummy and daddy to buy your clothes and so you think eww only teenagers can cosplay/wear Lolita fashion. Please get off this board and come back when you're of age to.

[Anonymous No.10045705]

>>10045228
>Stop wearing sweet by the time you enter secondary school
>stop
>enter secondary school

I'm sorry, so by the age of 11 or 12???

[Anonymous No.10045707]

>>10043230
i'm 26 so by those standards, I guess I better start penning my will and testament. should I leave my burando to my nieces? lmao

[Anonymous No.10045714]

When you stop feeling comfortable wearing it. The reason why everyone loves the jolly green lady is because she wears what she wants and it makes her happy, not because society tells her to. If you're confident in wearing what you like, people admire you even if you look crazy to them. People always want what they can't have, that includes being content and happy with yourself.

[Anonymous No.10045782]

>>10045714
amen

[Anonymous No.10045784]

>>10045714
based

[Anonymous No.10045809]

>>10042783
I'm waiting on second consultation to get mine, wish me luck!

[Anonymous No.10045836]

>>10045698
>read one very old and well known article you hadn’t heard of til today and suddenly be an expert

If you’re wearing a corset all day every day, your muscles can atrophy. If you’re wearing it for part of a day under a specific dress, you’re actually doing quite a lot of abdominal work. And nobody has any business at all wearing an overbust corset with lolita, the shape is COMPLETELY wrong. Wear an underbust and a proper bra.

I also don’t think you understand what anon means by “strong shape”. But whatever, that’s enough spoonfeeding for you.

[Anonymous No.10046023]

>>10045567
It is to some people, yeah. I think they're fucking sad as hell but some people see it as a right of passage to make friends with their peers who are also popping out kids because "that's just what you do in your 30s".

>>10045577
No. I'm 31 and not having children as I can make my own decisions regardless of what other assholes are doing.

>>10045632
nailed it.

[Anonymous No.10046172]

>>10045809
God, good luck anon! If you havent already, I recommend checking out the childfree reddit and looking at their list of CF friendly doctors.

I approached my family doctor who reffered me to someone and thankfully I received no push back. I was pleasantly surprised with not having to fight about it

[Anonymous No.10046175]

>>10045705
I think that anon was making a joke about how sweet looks like children's clothing

[Anonymous No.10046403]

>>10042676
look at Yayhan. she is around 40 yrs old.
Just pick cosplays that work for that age as other anons said.

[Anonymous No.10046409]

>>10046403
Yaya looks rough irl though, but I praise her for her love of crafting.

[Anonymous No.10046448]

>>10042667
>live in a free society
>people still complain about how you spend your free time and money.
Learn how to mind your business you nosy old bitch.

[Anonymous No.10046775]

>>10042729
You, good anon, can kindly shove a parasol as far up your ass as it'll go.
Love,
A 27 year old Lolita.

[Anonymous No.10046777]

>>10046403
>look at Yaya Han
spoken like someone who's never actually seen her irl

[Anonymous No.10046782]

>>10045470
Anon, do you need a hug? Wanna talk about something? You seem hurt.

[Anonymous No.10046784]

Pic fuckin' related

[Anonymous No.10046794]

>>10046782
>meme poster
Why do I sound hurt because I don't want to have kids and the thought of some snooty bitch bringing an unwanted child into the world is irresponsible, but noooo - I must be personally offended.

I feel bad for her future kid, my dude. That kid's life is gonna suck.

[Anonymous No.10046914]

>>10046794
Nayrt but yeah anon you sound pretty personally upset by this. Did you have parents that didn’t want you? That poster is already planning to be deeply involved in her child’s school life (PTA is a lot of work), it’s pretty clear that she wants her future kids.

[Anonymous No.10046932]

>>10042729
Guys it's ok. This person is clearly not even a lolita or a man.

[Anonymous No.10046940]

>>10046403
Did you mean, look at this shooped pic of Yaya Han? She's a beautiful woman but she does look her age in unedited videos, pictures and irl...

>>10045274
Agree to be honest, I don't think someone who genuinely wanted a kid would talk about them that way.

[Anonymous No.10047275]

It's creepy and sad when you're ugly, and you can be ugly at any age.

[Anonymous No.10047334]

>>10042769
You might change your mind if/when you do have children. I quit lolita for a while after having a baby, and desu I just really missed it and ended up deciding to wear it again. You don't have to be like those moms in your comm. Make sure you're in a good place financially before having a kid, so you can afford to get a babysitter and go out and have fun occasionally. You absolutely cannot completely dedicate your life to being a mom and only a mom. It seems admirable in theory, but it will kill you inside. Trust me. You need and deserve hobbies too. I don't bring my kid to meets, he goes to grandma's and I get a break. Win win all around. It's totally possible to keep your life as a lolita and your life as a mom separate and enjoy both. (although I will say I'm very open about my weird fashion choices and have never gotten any negative reactions) But hey, you do you, you won't know what you really want until you get there.

[Anonymous No.10047338]

>>10042699
>Personally I plan on quitting once I crap out my first troll. I’m not going to be that freak outcast mom at PTA meetings.
PTA moms don't need to know what your hobbies are.

I can't imagine giving up lolita just because I had a kid, I made a lot of friends thanks to the fashion and going to meets is like me time so it keeps me sane. But you do you friendo

[Anonymous No.10047341]

>>10046914
That person categorizes the fashion by age. Do you even wear lolita?

[Anonymous No.10047602]

>>10047275
I disagree, I think there's charm to "ugly" girls in lolita who wear the fashion for themselves because it makes them feel beautiful, regardless of how old they are.

[Anonymous No.10047608]

>>10043003
Sure girl, sure

[Anonymous No.10047685]

>>10047602
I agree. If you look back to oldschool, it's pretty evident that the original look was meant to come off as a bit quirky or unhinged. The true "doll like" look didn't set in until OTT Sweet took over, but before when gothic was the dominate substyle the look was more about the contrast of a ordinary girl in a modern world wearing something that looks out of place.

[Anonymous No.10048066]

>>10042702
35 now and when I look at my comm... 80% are my age and without kids and not planning on having them either...
I guess we will keep having our tiny tea parties for the upcoming years...

[Anonymous No.10048447]

There is an old lady who goes to the dances I go to -- she's gotta be pushing 80 -- and she wears a lolita-ish (not actually true lolita) style.

She looks glorious.

[Anonymous No.10048602]

I just turned 30 and just put together my first coord. Classic, yes, but that’s literally always been my style anyway.

Also, Fanny Rose is 30 sooooooo ya know. Whatever. Wear pretty things. Then die.

[Anonymous No.10048612]

I mean Misako Aoki the queen of all Lolitas is 36. She stills wears sweet Lolita and looks amazing. I think if you have the right personality and don't look too wrinkly you can get away with it for a long time. There is also a more toned down sweet that fits most ages I think. It's just clothes. Everyone can wear what they feel compfortable in.

[Anonymous No.10048851]

>>10048066
can I join, anon?

[Anonymous No.10048859]

there is no age limit yoU FUCKING NORMIESSSS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.10051510]

Is 28 too old to start cosplay?

[Anonymous No.10051511]

>>10051510
Never too old to have fun, and if you're aiming for professional, there are a lot of characters your age

[Anonymous No.10051521]

>>10051511
Thanks, I guess you are right. I really want to cosplay but I never had a courage to do anything. You know, people around me at this age are having their own family and I'm thinking about dressing up as some anime/game/movie characters.

[Anonymous No.10051526]

>>10051521
There's something reassuring about being like everyone else but sometimes you gotta do the things that make you happy

[Anonymous No.10057263]

>>10046403
>implying yaya han doesn't look super old and creepy and used up

[Anonymous No.10057266]

>>10045714
Society gives elderly women a lot more leeway than middle-aged women.

[Anonymous No.10057291]

>>10057266
This. Not sure why, but the level of excessive scrutiny on middle aged women is insane. I guess they're kind of weird... In the past, they'd be considered old but that's because people died a lot younger. Today, they're none of maiden, mother, OR crone. Many of them have adult children and are still working, and have no sight on retiring until they're 70. 50 is the modern 30. Damn.

[Anonymous No.10057306]

>>10057291
Nayrt but I agree.. I think a big part of it is that people feel uncomfortable about women who are neither "young" nor "old" because of their combination of aging and vitality... they haven't settled into the sort of vague almost genderless (and also often imaginary) asexuality of the elderly that younger people find very non-threatening, yet comparing them to 20-year-olds is just not valid either

[Anonymous No.10057318]

>"childish" styles (AP sweet but also nanchatte and a lot of oldschool sweet or classic that looks exactly like Victorian childrens' clothes)
Can get away with these while I'm in my early-mid 20s and still sometimes get mistaken for a teen, but as soon as I age enough to look disturbingly like an older woman dressing like a kid I'll probably stop wearing them. Could start wearing again once you're elderly enough for it to just seem eccentric.
>classic lolita
Gonna keep wearing as long as I'm not in a job where wearing old-fashioned girly clothes (even in my off-time) could impact my professional reputation. Even then I'd hope that any field like that would pay enough for me to be able to go on nice vacations where I could wear lolita without worrying about bumping into my colleagues, so I guess I'll wear it until I lose interest or just can't be bothered with the effort to dress up.
>gothic lolita
Pretty much the same as above except that I could also wear it just to goth clubs (not as weekend wear) and be even less worried about anyone who sees me thinking it's "unprofessional" since nobody in those kind of places would care. I would transition to more mature cuts and less edgy/sexy looks as I got older though.

This isn't advice I'd give to someone in my comm who really really loved sweet though, part of the reason I'm OK with ditching cutesy styles as I get older is that they aren't my main passion. I think very OTT pastel sweet looks more alternative therefore less weird on a woman in her thirties or above than some coords that get called "toned-down" but look like old-fashioned childrens clothes.

[Anonymous No.10057327]

maybe a cop-out answer but i really do think it's more of a genetics/general appearance kind of thing. if you're still attractive as you age, or if you're attractive at all, you're probably going to catch less criticism. sad but true.

something that i think matters more in terms of reception (mostly from other people in the community) is maturity level. i know older lolitas who LOOK great, but the way they act is what makes them creepy and sad to me. tl;dr wear whatever you want and be well-adjusted while you do it.

[Anonymous No.10057346]

>>10045607
I'm not wearing it for you. I'm wearing it because I love the characters and some of them happen to dress that way. You'll understand when you're older and wishing you could still do things. Either stay sad about it or just stop giving any fucks and have fun. :)

[Anonymous No.10057362]

>>10047334
Nayrt, but all of this. Thank you for rhe validation.

[Anonymous No.10058213]

>>10045607
....35...isnt old? Saying this as a 21yo...

[Anonymous No.10058233]

>>10058213
>35 isn't old?
Not from my side of the fence, but I'm 50

[Anonymous No.10058250]

>>10058213

Too old to be doing skimpy cosplay surely

[Anonymous No.10058270]

>>10058250
Uh nope.

[Anonymous No.10058361]

>>10058270

You hike up your saggy tits and walk around with your cellulite ridden asscheeks hanging out and you think you still got it cos you gave some 13 year olds a boner but the rest of us dont wanna see that shit

[Anonymous No.10058535]

>>10058361
>saggy tits
Is this a thing? No one in my family has saggy tits. I guess some people just have better boob genetics

[Anonymous No.10063481]

>>10058361

At 35 though??? Wtf kind of 35 year olds have you been exposed to? Meth addicts?

[Anonymous No.10063598]

How old is arsenic & old lace? She looks fab in sweet still

[Anonymous No.10063627]

>>10058361
If you take care of yourself (and don’t have unlucky genetics) being 35 is mostly a lot like being 25 except you have more money and a couple more wrinkles. 45 is when you’re getting into middle aged territory.

[Anonymous No.10063635]

>>10046777
So post some photos of her looking “so rough”. I’ll be over here remembering that our holy leader Mana-sama is over 50 now. Recent pic related.

[Anonymous No.10063665]

>>10063598
Good question, I’m curious too. I love her look.

[Anonymous No.10063678]

I personally stopped at 25 because I personally started to feel weird. All the girls in my community who were my age or older had retired and been replaced with these young 16-18 year old girls. I’m 30 now and I’ve been just watching from afar, desperately wanting to buy some dresses but not wanting to be associated with any community

[Anonymous No.10063680]

>>10063678
That's so sad anon. Are there any other comms nearby? You deserve pretty things in your life too

[Anonymous No.10063689]

>>10063678
I can’t say I blame you regarding a much-younger comm but that shouldn't stop you from getting and wearing lolita things on your own if you still love the fashion.

I think there are more older lolitas now then there has ever been. Why not put a couple of coords together and see how it feels? Stick to things with decent resale value at first so if you don’t want to continue, you can just sell them off.

[Anonymous No.10063703]

32-ish depending on your skin

[Anonymous No.10063719]

>>10063703
I'd generally agree with this for any revealing/sexy cosplay, providing you are in good physical shape too. Older exceptions exists ofc but I've seen some fat saggy teens too. Not a good look in skimpy clothing at any age. For covered looks, I don't think age matters as much to most people but purists will complain of anything that affects the perception of the cosplay from boob size to height, eye color to age.

For Lolita, any style, any age with the right coordination skills. Misako in sweet at 35 is the best example but yes, Mana at 50 is a good example too. Older and/or fatter may benefit from shapewear more. Skin troubles, see a derm or accept the face lines and do the best you can with skincare and makeup skills.

[Anonymous No.10063834]

>>10063678
>i can only wear lolita if i'm part of a comm bawww

good riddance then, so sick of people who hold this belief instead of having the passion and balls to enjoy the fashion for its own sake. if you want a social hobby join a quilting circle

[Anonymous No.10063913]

>>10063834
That's not entirely fair, some people can justify spending money on a social hobby where they wouldn't spend like that if alone. Look at dining out or seeing movies. Most people don't spend a lot of money on either alone but will spend often on them in a more social situation. Some people can't justify spending hundreds to thousands on their fashion unless they have place or occasion to wear it other than just for their own enjoyment.

Even I can say this and my comm sucks and I'm thinking of dropping going to meets almost completely in 2019. I wore lolita before my area had a comm, I wear it as people come in and then leave it behind, and I'd wear Lolita if the rest of the people abandoned the fashion...as many do...but not everyone is like this and for lots of people it was the social gathering of comms and meets that even gave them the valid reason to wear it at all. The fashion would never have spread in the west and taken such firm hold as it has without meets and comms.

And I also don't blame a woman 25+ for not wanting to circle with a teen comm, most social hobbies dont have that kind of a glaring age gap. My own teen fashion ideas and interests were way different than my focus as an adult woman.
I only think the all ages thing works well for cons and events where there are specific reasons to gather. At local meets that would be kind of awkward to be either the only 25+ or conversely the only teen. Maybe to some people it really doesn't matter? Good for them.

[Anonymous No.10064093]

>>10063913
>Look at dining out or seeing movies
Ahahaha you can't be fucking serious

[Anonymous No.10064126]

>>10063913
>place or occasion to wear it other than just for their own enjoyment
Nayrt but literally every person I know wears clothing on a regular basis

[Anonymous No.10064133]

>mfw 28 and everyone thinks I'm in high school

[Anonymous No.10064140]

>>10064126
Don’t be dense, not everyone will buy a $300 dress just so they will ‘have clothes to wear’, that’s usually reserved for clothing that meets a special purpose.

>>10064133
I’m sure a few lolitas and women in general are like this but it’s overused to the point that it’s become a joke and we’ve seen enough evidence that at least half of the women saying this are either getting humored or are delusional. They do not really look like teens or look a decade younger but people are willing to tell them what they obviously want to hear.
So to even say they here is kind of questionable.
If it’s true hey good on you anon. I hope everyone can age as gracefully as possible. Because why not?

[Anonymous No.10064142]

>>10064133
Protip: It's not because of your appearance.

[Anonymous No.10064163]

>>10064142
h8r can stay mad
>>10064140
No, I have good evidence for it. I mean if you don't believe me then whatever. Don't feel the need to prove myself to anonymous internet users. But hell, even when I go on a date the guy wants to double check that I'm of age every time.
Every woman in my family looks ten years younger than she is, and they don't even into skincare like I do. So it's half genetics and half damned good skincare, diet, lifestyle, and sun avoidance. feels good man. All those roastie thots from high school with tanning obsessions are firmly post-wall now and I'm sitting pretty.

[Anonymous No.10064170]

>>10063913
>>10064140
i mean i wouldn't wear lolita in most context where i'd wear sweats (like i wouldn't wear it to run to the grocery store or to the gym) but almost any weekend activity is fair game. dinner date? wear lolita. go shopping with friends? wear lolita. going to a gallery/museum/zoo/similar attraction? wear lolita.

i 100% get not wanting to wear lolita when you're by yourself as people seem to take that as an invitation to approach you, but wearing lolita when you're with your partner or non-lolita friends is totally fair game. your options for wearing the fashion in a social context aren't limited to "a lolita comm" and "no companions"

[Anonymous No.10064252]

>>10064170
I didn’t say it’s not great to wear for other times but it feels a bit special to go to lolita meets or events. It’s often the extra incentive of these that gets people into lolita. Are they needed to wear it? Of course not, but for many it’s a real motivator.

>>10064163
I’m glad you are taking care of your exterior and it’s great to maintain your nice looks but you might want to peek under that hood for a mental and emotional tune up.
Calling other women roasties and bragging on winning the looks game over old high school peers?
Wew lass. That’s some truly sad shit.

[Anonymous No.10064671]

>>10064163
From this response I suspect this anon >>10064142 is 100% correct. You don't act like you have the maturity level of someone almost 30.
when you are 80 and you still act like a cringy high schooler no one is going to think it's cute.

[Anonymous No.10064690]

>>10057327
>tl;dr wear whatever you want and be well-adjusted while you do it.
Excellent advice anon

>>10064163
>Tsukishima

That's how you know this person is garbage lmao

>>10058361
>you hike up your saggy tits and walk around with your cellulite ridden asscheeks hanging out
>implying younger people don't do this/look like this
Sounds like you've never been to a con

[Anonymous No.10064699]

>>10064690
Is that Arika on the right? God I love her so much.

[Anonymous No.10064702]

>>10064690
This was a few years ago so arika-san is 55 now and still performing, modeling and still very beautiful.
Also fun fact Japanese count next-year age from Jan 1 so all will be a year older in less than a week. It’s not the number it’s a combination of how you look, act and feel, how you present yourself and what you do. I think it’s poddible to age well whether we choose to pursue a physically youthful appearance or let time show more. It’s attitude, how we view life, what we spend our time doing etc.
The one thing I’d say will make/break enjoying a fashionable later life is health. Most people do not take into consideration the important part remaining healthy plays in the later 1/2 of life. Barring accident or un-preventable disease, maintaining a healthy lifestyle is probably the single best thing we can all resolve to do now to ensure we age in the best ways.

And >>10064163 is a great example, even if she looks young, that bitterness and unpleasantness is going to be evident in her personality. We all know the beautiful but really unpleasant person, still relying on her looks alone in 20’s and 30’s with the typical immature and vain behavior cackling about getting carded.

Not cute, and even less cute as time goes by.

[Anonymous No.10064716]

>>10064163
I'm curious about your skincare routine but... Wow. Just, wow.

[Anonymous No.10064724]

>>10064716
Nayrt but you can get a good skincare routine together for your own needs and skin type better by researching your particular concerns. Some deluded bitch on the chan with admittedly good genetics probably doesn’t have the same skin issues as many of us.

[Anonymous No.10064762]

>>10064163
This is not believable. All any man would need to do is casually take you out for a drink to confirm that you are over 21.
I'd be a little worried if I was 28 and someone couldn't distinguish me from an 18yo by my behavior alone regardless of looks.
But I guess the shallowness of the last sentence sums it up. Over a decade out of high school and you are still insecure. This bragging on admittedly largely genetic youthful looks shows that your accomplishments are not much.

Imagine all the learned women of history gathered, and each will relate their accomplishments.
Do you think any of them at all will say 'well...I look YOUNG'?

[Anonymous No.10064782]

>>10064163
>I'm not like other girls: The Post

[Anonymous No.10064788]

>>10064163

I was actually sort of with you until the guy thing. The fact that you think this is brag worthy is very worrying. Do you like attracting pedophiles? Is this what you’re reduced to for the sake of keeping your ego afloat? Jesus.

[Anonymous No.10064796]

>>10064782
They're the girl version of male incels

[Anonymous No.10064799]

>>10064133

[Anonymous No.10064825]

>>10064724
>Some deluded bitch on the chan with admittedly good genetics probably doesn’t have the same skin issues as many of us.

deluded bitch, chiming in. my "skincare routine" is soap, water, and sunscreen. feelsgoodman

[Anonymous No.10064844]

>>10064825
Proves the point. Most people, probably even yourself, would benefit from a more advanced skincare routine with a moisturizing agent and preventive ingredients tailored to your skin type but soap, water and sunscreen can hardly be described as 'damned good skincare' by anyone, it's the barest minimum for any pleb human. So you are even contradicting your earlier statement.

To be fair, I'm not a fan of overly elaborate skincare but I use a set of products made for my skin type and designed to help treat, delay or prevent the most common problems those of my skin type are prone to now and later in life.
I'll probably start adding more aggressive treatments as I get older and wish to maintain a reasonably youthful appearance but I'm prepared too and unlike deluded bitch, I don't bank on my looks overmuch even though I'm not unattractive at all. I just don't put much importance on it. Pretty is as pretty does, so I watch how people behave and judge them by their character.

[Anonymous No.10064850]

>>10042667
Returning to the topic, I think even sweet lolita can be done in a more elegantly styled way that doesn't invoke the more childish aspects of it and any age can easily wear this style. Prettier shoes with a little heel, less plastic jewelry, good wigs, avoiding things like stickers on the face or toy references in the accessories, using a more elegant bag.
Any age could wear this kind of coordinate even if the main piece has a print such as Dreamy Baby Room.

[Anonymous No.10064999]

>>10064163
>almost 30
>touting being confused for a highschooler like it's an accomplishment (or even true)
my laughs. i know people in their late twenties who pull the same card but really... don't. people like you inspire me to age with grace.

>t. actual 18 year old fresh out of highschool who, more than likely, would NOT confuse you for somebody my age
keep dreaming tho

[Anonymous No.10065010]

>>10064999
Women who look a bit (or a lot) younger can go decently under the radar by just being pleasant, friendly, warm people and never bringing up the age factor at all. Plus everyone of all ages is a lot more comfy around them.
It's such a diverse set of people in lolita and cosplay circles and we are ideally all here to have fun so the people who facilitate inclusive happiness instead of bitter competition are the ones who shine.

[Anonymous No.10065105]

>>10043003
Post your nasolabial folds

[Anonymous No.10065151]

>>10064163
I'm not sure which is more sad, your arrogance or the jealousy from the replies.

[Anonymous No.10065168]

>>10065151
Why would anyone be jealous of a pick-me femcel? The only men she'll attract are robots/uggos and the youtube skeptic community.

[Anonymous No.10065261]

>>10064140
You sound like a meet-lita

[Anonymous No.10065276]

>>10065261
I wear it more outside meets than to meets. I’m repeating what people have said to me about it because I know that I’m in the minority wearing lolita once a week or more. I think anyone who wants to should wear lolita whenever they like but few do wear it outside of meets and they take it off right away after. Lots of people are meet-litas, I’d say that more are than aren’t.

[Anonymous No.10065291]

>>10065105
That’s not a fair assessment, lots of younger women have deeper ones. It’s already been said that her stereotypical ‘I’m constantly mistaken for younger’ routine is enough of a giveaway. Milady doth protest too much. And with her obviously bad attitude who is going to argue with her in person? I’m sure they just smile and say ‘wow, it’s true, you look so young’ while thinking ‘kek, get a load of this chick’. I’m sure she also thinks her bitter rude manner and the disregard for other women not as ‘pretty’ doesnt show either. It does.

Youthful looks are great, many of us want to preserve them as much as we can, but few are obsessed with it and pull the ‘no, really I get carded all the time, and all my family looks young too, believe me’ routine. Most embarrassing behavior.

[Anonymous No.10065304]

>>10065151
It isn’t always jealousy, it’s more ‘jeez don’t do that’, pointing out a stereotypical bad female behavior that reflects badly on all of us. No one cares that she still looks young, possibly a few would be a bit jealous of it but usually by the time we are full adults (and hopefully long before), we try not to be so vain or constantly playing the young or pretty cards as our best cards, instead learning to take more pride in character, accomplishment, value to society, valuing something besides being a somewhat still-tender slightly decorative lump of breathing meat?

[Anonymous No.10065371]

>>10045277
yeah... I really want a child but hearing that just sounds miserable... ughgh.

[Anonymous No.10065386]

>>10064844
this. You can get away with basic skincare when you're young but at a certain point you really gotta be diligent.

[Anonymous No.10065393]

>>10064163
Keep being delusional sweaty.

[Anonymous No.10065394]

>>10042769
I’m not willing to go to family friendly fashion meets, we go out for an elegant good time with fellow fashion-focused people. I think here are enough family-appropriate activities in most cultures to accommodate family time so bringing kids (and babies) to a lolita meet would be like bringing them to a Girls Night Out or along on date night. Not really appropriate for kids.

And yes, I’m crabby about this shit. I’m on a local committee that plans cocktail parties for a local organization, designed to let business professionals and artists/artisans mingle and low key network and damned if I don’t regularly get people asking me if it’s ‘ok to bring their kids’.
No people, no.

[Anonymous No.10065399]

>>10042782
So much this. Not everyone can or even desires to remain eternally youthful. Accepting maturity and styling for it can be incredibly elegant and beautiful in a way young pretty looks can never emulate but in any case, to be fashionable you need to be reasonably well put together and look polished and well styled.

and in most cases (though probably unpopular opinion) be reasonably fit. Shapewear only goes so far and this aspect only worsens as we age. The exception is the way-too-skinny older woman looking gaunt but we see that issue far less.

[Anonymous No.10066091]

If you age like bjork, and you could wear a trash bag and make it cute
Who cares how old you are

[Anonymous No.10066093]

>>10066091
Bjork is a nordic celeb. She has great genes and can afford to not age.

[Anonymous No.10066096]

>>10046782
Ngl, just let the people who don't like kids, and don't want kids not have kids and bitch and moan all they want, they'd be shitty parents anyway.
The important thing is they're not breeeding and passing that shitty attitude onto the rest of the world, it's like a problem that fixes itself, we should give thanks.

[Anonymous No.10066099]

>>10063635
Nayrt but here’s an (edited!) pic of her looking super fresh cosplaying a totally age-appropriate 14-year-old.

[Anonymous No.10066188]

>>10066091
Good genetics and also started out very cute but Bjork has had lots of very expensive cosmetic work done, like many people in the entertainment professions, because it’s relevant to her career. You can see that in her photos over the years. Not knocking it, but I don’t the average woman will spend thousands just to keep looking young for fashion. Some will. But to put it as the expectation is not a good setup.

[Anonymous No.10066195]

>>10066099
I don’t think there’s an age cut-off for cosplay but I really don’t think she looks that good in this character (actually aged up for the series but still, no older than 22 in it) for quite a few reasons and yes age is one reason.

*Should* she play it though? That’s up to her.
Is it inappropriately done? No, it’s fine for a family friendly con even.
That’s why it’s subjective.

Obviously she thinks it’s a good thing and her livelihood depends on that kind of judgement.
While she may have her detractors, she remains successful.

[Anonymous No.10066244]

>>10046403
>>10057263
>>10066099
Yaya has had work done and seems to keep up with it. Probably mini-lifts and fillers instead of Botox since her face is still mobile. Here’s a 2015 makeup tutorial that seems to be shot with a beauty filter.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpjVfiNcuc

[Anonymous No.10066245]

>>10066099
Nobody thinks of Daenerys as 14... And Emilia Clarke is much older as well.

>>10063635
>be 49
>tfw your own fans refer to you as "over 50"...

I personally think that nobody, regardless of how young and goodlooking you are, should wear "slutty" cosplay. But styles that are covering up more, like e.g. lolita, look super cute on older people as well.

[Anonymous No.10066259]

>>10066195
>>10066245
Even in the tv series she’s no older than 17 when the dragons hatch.

[Anonymous No.10066260]

>>10066245
Well we all know he is immortal but rumor had it that both he and Gackt subtracted 3 years from their age, so who can know.
In even best case, he will turn the year Jan 1 so few days from being 50 even by the younger reckoning I guess? I’m happy he is continuing just as beautifully and with dramatic styles.

I like the people who keep their style as they age or switch to something a bit different but still stay very stylish. It’s not going to be right for everyone to keep the same style but I’m really glad more people seem to be doing so. I can imagine Missko being 60 and still dressing much as she does now.

[Anonymous No.10066265]

>>10066259
Someone over 30 dresses up in a TV show costume and I have serious issues with this. Really?

The actress who plays her is older as well, that’s why they call it acting, it’s not real. Neither is cosplay. It’s subjective, she’s a fictional character. People are doing this on their own for fun or in Yaya’s case, as part of a small creative business. Last I checked, it’s allowed. You don’t have to like it. But few will really care to nitpick this hard, I think.

Why do you care so much if Yaya dresses up? Regardless of her age or the fictional character’s age?

[Anonymous No.10066269]

>>10066099
I mean, she's a older gal. It's true. It is subjective though. It's an appropriate cosplay for a older gal. It is indeed pretty family friendly in appearance as well. The rest of my reasoning isn't really important, it's just personal feeling. I don't think wearing anything at any age is 'bad'. Although, when you're an older woman, you might need to wear less revealing clothing and there's a certain expectation to have everything on point. You get less leeway to look disheveled. I really have no issue with older ladies who put effort into their appearance. That in itself is sort of charming, you know? I look up to those people.

[Anonymous No.10066283]

>>10066259
They can say that she's supposed to be underage all they want, fact is, she's played by a 30yo and there are nude scenes. So, no 14 or 17yo to see there.

[Anonymous No.10066318]

>>10066245
>Nobody thinks of Daenerys as 14... And Emilia Clarke is much older as well.
Right? I just looked it up and Yaya is only 4 years older than Emilia. Some people in their early 20s (I'm guessing) on this board be havin' some sticks up their butts I guess.

[Anonymous No.10066401]

>>10066099
The horror!
I hope your teen dragon mommie fantasy-induced boner went limp mid-stroke. Can’t unsee either, can ya, big boy? Too amusing.

>>10066318
Call the nursing home police to send out the paddywagon, someone over 30 is having fun again.

[Anonymous No.10068427]

Makeup is everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYy9AXcbJ8c

[Anonymous No.10068767]

>>10042676
eh i wouldn't go so far as "leaving teen characters to actual teens," at all but i'd say being within 5-10 years (and looking it) is important.

[Anonymous No.10068793]

>>10068767
reminder men jerk it to 23-25 year olds as if they were teens and penises are more honest, albiet lizard brained, then most women are to eachother.

[Anonymous No.10068809]

>>10045582
Corsets can get wild.
pic related is a man obviously, but it's the most absurd corsetting I've ever seen on television

[Anonymous No.10068820]

>>10042667
Gothic lolitas are never too old.
You just need a good place to hide your phylactery.

Sweet lolitas are too old when they finish puberty and kawaii anarchy lolitas are too old when their parents failed to get an abortion

[Anonymous No.10068821]

>>10068820
Fucking 4channel eating my image

[Anonymous No.10068841]

>>10068820
Based

[Anonymous No.10068842]

>>10068821
Anon do you know where this was taken? It looks so much like my old college town but I'm sure I must be tripping. Very cute couple btw

[Anonymous No.10069105]

>>10068793
Men jerk it to all kinds of weird things or to nothing more than a summer breeze. How many times have you heard, "ugh, cougar but I'd still hit it"? Lots.
No one should listen to the peen, men included.

I think it's all subjective, but my opinion is that sweet doesn't look as good as classic or gothic on visibly aging faces. If I was stuck on sweet I'd probably be more tempted to get Botox and fillers at a younger age.

[Anonymous No.10069110]

>>10068427
This is true but I think most people would still say, 'she wouldn't look as good in sweet Lolita at this age'.

>>10068821
Gothic and goth, correct never too old. But I think many are more alternative in lifestyle as well.
Not always but often.

[Anonymous No.10069133]

Let's tell the international comm Mother, we clearly need to throw Misako, Risa, Fanny Rosie, Tyler/ScarfingScarves, Kate, Claire Max, etc into the sea. Since they're all 25+ and don't look like teenagers.

[Anonymous No.10069140]

>>10069133

>kate

Who begs for money in her early thirties like one of those ex con gladiators at the coliseum? Can I be not associated with her? That is most embarrassing behavior and she should be thrown in the sea for that. So should Claire. The rest can stay.

[Anonymous No.10069141]

>>10068793
>>10069105
I want to give my opinion on this subject but, honestly most of us nowadays are attracted to older women, so being in your mid to late twenties doesn’t matter as much as it did in the earlier 2000s when it comes to cosplay. Granted I can agree with the fact that most of us unfortunately listen to our cocks a bit too much it’s basically like going into an auto pilot function. So I would take whatever most guys say about what they think is hot about 50/50 because we are horny for everything but we are also idiots

[Anonymous No.10069185]

Honestly as long as you take care of your body and skin you can dress up at any age. Also being financially stable; you can never be too old but you can be too cheap.

[Anonymous No.10071976]

>>10042667
Depends on how old you look rather than how old you are, and how well you style it. Classic and Gothic defiantly work better on older people, as long as you style it a bit mature. Sweet looks bad as soon as you look like you're finished puberty and are a adult woman after styling.