/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

For me its more people on the fringe thinking that 99% of cosplayers are girls in bikinis with pikachu ears on Patreon

I agree with both of the posts above.

I hate cosplay trends, I wish there was more diversity in terms of cosplays at cons rather than the same 10 series being cosplayed again and again at every event. I'd like to see more obscure cosplays or from less popular series.

Girls that start jumping on the lewd band wagon for likes, but then post about how they’re so ugly and insecure.

the cosplay community is one giant high school all over again. you have your different cliques - your elitist(jocks), your rejects(nerds), all this shit. and it's retarded.

we're all social rejects who love to dress up like fictional characters, and yet we think we are better than other people who dress up like fictional cartoon characters.

like it's literally a cancerous community. people who were losers in actual high school feel like now they are hot shit at a fucking convention dressing up as a fictional character.

>>9801815
Or how they are getting harrassed in the comments and don't want to be seen just for their lewd cosplays (i.e moomoo)

>>9801816
Fuck I feel this so hard. In my com people think they are some hot shit every time they post on Instagram or Facebook when they only cosplay 1 or 2 character for the past 3 years and nothing else KEK

>>9801818
Oh, you're from Florida too?

>>9801816
Also a shitty two-faced personality where they try to act wholesome but are the biggest cunts

>>9801819
No but I am based in the south of the U.S., its fucking cancer. We use to have meetups a lot back in around 2009-2012 but because our city (its a major one too) is so tainted we haven't had a successful meetup since Feb of 2012 from what I remember.

Also it's bad enough that other comms outside of my state know about how bad our comm is.

>>9801798
the part that annoys me the most in cosplay is:
>girls who get all high and mighty when talking about or to male cosplayers, or think that some girl was the one who made their costume or makeup.
being asked who did your makeup is really weird, same with being asked who you commissioned from, really pisses me off when it happens at a con

>guys who put literally no effort into their cosplay other than taking their shirt off and showing their muscles/belly/hair/etc.
that takes no skill, no thought whatsoever, and there are so many hairy touhous with bellies falling our or shirtless gokus running around cons asking how to fuck cosplay girls that it just pisses me off.

>>9801830
Thats like costhots who wanna cosplay full armor or some pokemon but show up in a bra and panties with a wig and some shitty facepaint and all it a day

>>9801830
>mfw the past two cosplays I've made I've had people ask "where did you buy that from?"

Not sure if I should take that as a compliment on the craftmanship, or be offended that they think it was purchased.

>>9801899
I'd take it as a compliment, I would be happy if someone thought my cosplay was made from probably a shitfest factory in asia or by machines

>>9801820
Cosplayers acting like "smol beans" are the worst of that bunch, honestly. It makes me fucking recoil when I still hear that terminology in regards to them talking about themselves, oh god.

>>9801822
You in Houston? Because this is exactly what it fucking sounds like.

>>9801909
They thought it was all store-bought clothes, so at least it wasn't "cheap aliexpress" cosplay to them.

People who nit pick cosplays or coords. Something is slightly off color or one part is missing. Big deal.

>>9801922
true, and that should probably extend to those cosplays that get posted here where it's clearly a hastily posed hall shot

>>9801916
VERY CLOSE BY, Houston is actually the most envious city for cosplay because they were able to have meetups that lasted till 2014 maybe 2015. But the Houston comm is also really cancerous with petty drama.

>>9801798
People giving a fuck about other people’s body types. Whether that be skinny or fat unless these people are harassing you or actually harming you I see no reason for it to bother you! Like,how little it must take for someone’s body type to be the thing that offends you?

>>9801930
Fat people tend to smell pretty offensively, and they look disgusting too.

>>9801925
yess
If it is a professional shoot, sure, nitpick I guess, but some random shot in the middle of the con? Let people have their fun. Unless it is just ungodly bad, then it is dumb to nitpick.

>>9801798
People taking helpful criticism (extra points if they're posting online asking for it to begin with) as an attack. I don't know how those who think they're above criticism function as cosplayers, let alone the real world. If simply being given advice ruins your weekend maybe this hobby isn't for you? Maybe socialization in general isn't for you? Might be time to sit down and reevaluate your attitude.

Especially people who throw tantrums when they're told you can't make a cosplay for $20 or "free".

>>9801956
Criticism how? If they're asking for it then I can see them being unreasonable for getting mad, but if you just walk up to some cosplayer or lolita and tell them what you don't like about their coord or cosplay, 90% of people will tell you to fuck off because no one wants that.
No one likes unsolicited criticism.

People who lie about where they got their shit from, or purposely mispell the source so that people can't find it. I had a "friend" that would purposely link shitty ebay wigs to people who asked her where she got hers.

>>9801798
I hate people who kiss ass to social climb. I have a fair few followers (>100k), and the way people treat me now compared to when I had 1k followers is ridiculously different. It's become extremely difficult to make real friends in the community, because everyone wants to use your fame to boost themselves. Some social climbers even have the audacity to ask me to post them on my story and tag them to promote them when we're barely acquaintances, and people always "jokingly" ask why you didn't follow them or post a selfie with them.

>>9801930
Bless this post.

ahegao selfies

>>9802063
Ahegao selfies are literal cancer

People cosplaying character they don't know just because of the design. At least try to watch some character related content (anime, playthrough, etc).

>>9801830
>>9801835
This. I hate both types of costhots and I wish they'd leave. Worst though is that the male cosplayers who work out and just take off their shirt, are total butterfaces, get all this attention, then become super egotistical. Outside of the cosplay comm you'd be a solid 2/10 mate, knock it down a notch.
>bonus: some chick in the comment saying "finally a MALE cosplays this character!"
What's wrong with girl crossplayers who do it pretty well? Just their gender?

>>9801995
This is too real. My local comm is full of these social climbers. Most of them aren't too rude to me anymore since we have about the same following (very small though we all range between 1k to 5k) but seeing the way they treat others makes me cringe, especially when they dial up the flattery for famous cosplayers.

They'll usually try to recruit famous cosplayers into groups even if the famous cosplayers aren't necessarily into the series, just expressed interest in it. Meanwhile, other cosplayers who are into a series but say have 500 or less followers get treated the most coldly and people in the same tier as me get called in to fill any leftover slots.

>>9801932
This

>>9801995
>>9802333
Advice on not being that person? Sometimes I want to get to know someone but I'm worried I'll come off as a social climber/trying to use their fame because they have more followers than me. Though that could just be social anxiety speaking. What are the things that just send up social climber red flags?

>>9801798
>To me it's people who take the high horse of being "Cosfamous" (only like 3k followers on instagram or smth) and how much ego they have annoys the fuck outta me.
Reminds me of this post >>9796491

>>9802357
I mean just act like they don't have followers? Red flags for me are:
>Acting overly familiar
>Mentioning followers or social media a lot
>Trying to talk to me even though we have barely any common interests
>"Omg I love your work so much"
>"How did you get popular?"
>Going out of their way to take selfies with me
>Tagging me in their convention posts even though we only passed by each other
>Constantly inviting me to their events when we're not close
Also, sometimes people give off red flags by what they post. I don't interact much on Facebook, but I actually lurk on my feed a lot and remember most people I add. People who post a lot of cleavage, lewd, or ahegao pictures are huge red flags, as are people who constantly complain how their photos don't get enough interaction or post about algorithms.

>>9802357
Aside from what the other anon covered:
>asking them to follow you back or promo you
>constantly turning the conversation back to yourself ("I was at that con too! Here's what I was wearing, did you see me?", "I wanted to cosplay that too, can you give me tips?", etc.)
Just talk to them like they're people.

>>9801995
This is also why most people who have a lot of followers usually seem to hang out with other people with a lot of followers. It's less likely that they're trying to social climb, and even if they are, at least it's mutually beneficial since you both have a following. I find that it's easiest to be friends with people who aren't that invested in social media or just go to cons to party and buy merch, since most other cosplayers seem to be trying to become cosfamous.

When people refer to everything as 'content'.
Here in the UK we've got more snow than we've had for years and one girl posted on her personal that she was able to go out in cosplay to 'get some content' which was just really bad images of her pratting around in the snow as a Love Live character.

I'm just so sick of the term.

>>9801926
It was honestly about 2016 when shit fell apart for whatever reason. But I fucking hate the drama, I'm glad I carefully picked my friends there, honestly.

When a new character is revealed/introduced (mostly in games) there's always those who want to be the first one to cosplay it. So many shitty costumes.

>>9802063
My friends make me take ahegao photos are putting me in the spotlight and it is so uncomfortable

Over the top cosplay make-up. Like those cosplayers who try to be uncannily 2.5D, instead of 3D. Cosplay to me, should be about being a real life version of the character, aka you should look like a normal human if you cosplay a human character, not someone with obvious black eyeliner.

>>9802419
I remember when DJ Sona came out in League of Legends and everyone wanted to jump ship to cosplay it first and it was just horrible photoshop and shitty costumes

>>9802418
I know some popular people in the cosplay community there, some are cool and pretty nice but others are SNAKES. I heard Dallas/FW isn't much better and that SA is literal CANCER, people from Louisiana, Oklahoma and some other places talk about how bad it is there.

>>9802493
I've seen the eyeliner done decently well, but most end up horrendous. Doing anime eyebrows almost NEVER looks good, though, especially if they're pencil thin.

>>9802507
Its like brow covering, so many of the times I see people brow covering looks so HORRIBLE.

>>9802510
This is why I prefer not covering and redrawing the brow, but just coloring your natural brow and gently brushing it out. There's been more cases of that looking better than the full coverage, honestly.

>>9802517
I only blow cover 1 layer to make my thick black eyebrows seem a little lighter so I can go in a white crayon and gently color it in

>>9802492

Say no. You have a choice in the matter and don't have to do it.

>>9802521
That's exactly what I do! My eyebrows are thick and black myself. Great for every day good looks, but not for when I need my eyebrows to be fucking aqua lmao

Instagram cosplay girls which consist of them just taking a selfie in the "cosplay", filtering the fuck out of it and posting it online.
They're a dime a dozen

>>9802528
Its kinda hard for me since their older than me and I feel like im in the spotlight, I just feel like im uncool because im a insecure pos in cosplay LOL

>>9802531
Pink is the most cancerous color to turn black into pastel pink without shaving them

>>9802517
This is why I just bleach my brows lol. They're coarse and dark brown and look like shit every time I try the glue stick or white crayon methods, especially when I'm dressing up as delicate qt small girls. I just fill in my natural shape so it still fits my face, and I don't have to be heavy handed on the color for it to show up. Plus they grow out super fast.

>>9802538
I thankfully don't have coarse hair period, so I dodged that bullet. I also fear bleaching any hair on me because of my sensitive skin, so props to you, dude. You do what works for you!

I'm sick of seeing people who look nothing like a character cosplaying a character.

>>9802534
Ahegao selfies are uncool. Just fuckin say no if you don't want to do it and get friends with better taste

>>9801798
Agreed. I get instantly irritated when I strike up a friendly chat with someone and they ask me to pull up my instagram to follow them, and then never bother following back. It’s weird.

People cosplaying whats popular rather than what they like. Cosplay is a fun fan thing.. not fucking how many likes you get on instagram or whatever.

>>9802413
Agreed. Apparently every bitch with a selfie stick is a “content creator” now.

>>9802593
That I've also never understood. I cosplay characters from 70s-80s mecha shows, and I get people asking me "how do you *not* cosplay for attention?" all the time.

I don't expect attention for my particular craft. I think it's fun when people recognize me (merely because I'm shocked), but do I solely do it for myself. It's about me feeling confident in my own craft for me alone, and to improve upon it for myself, as well.

I don't compete, I don't have a cosplay page/profile on any social media, I don't do any of that. I just don't know how people could care that much for attention, I guess.

>>9801932
Must be hard being you.

>>9802593
On the otherhand, it's also annoying when people think you're just cosplaying for attention just because you cosplay popular shows. The shows are popular for a reason, maybe I have basic taste but i'll cosplay what I find interesting.

>>9802492
Your friends are shitty, anon.

>>9802493
Nothing wrong with black eyeliner in 99% of cosplays, but I agree with everything else. For me it's when people try to do overly bright fabrics or bright wigs (matching the color on-screen).

>>9801930
>>9802776
>>9802042
Fatties spotted

>>9802940
But I thought everyone was a fattie according to you guys.

To me I'm fucking tired of the costhots, especially this one. They arent real cosplayers and will never been taken seriously by anyone. I'm tired of dumb sluts using our art as a way to grabmoney from desperate neckbeards while trying to be all "UWU IM A GIANT FORCE OF POSITIVITY LOVE EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY!!!!11!!1" while being two faced cunts who only want friendship from people who can be used as stepping stones.

It honestly gets me heated and I think it's a huge issue in the community and it needs to be addressed honestly.

>>9801932
1st world problems

>>9802940
Whatever helps you sleep at night skank

>>9802995
I hate the fuck out of costhots. It's becoming such a HUGE issue in the community its making the comm not just in my city but overall look so bad like were a bunch of people in costumes using it to sell sexual shit. I actually make cosplays and try my hardest to even make a character who gets lewd often (I also cosplay 2B) but I try to make it how the character was suppose to be not a fucking thot who would parade the ass and sell lewds to make a good buck out of beta neckbeards

>>9803164
it sucks like, I went to my local con back in January for a day and I was hanging out with a lot of friends I don't normally see and they were all talking about their lewd cosplays they're doing and how at ALA they 'really need to try hard and market themselves there' and I was just like what the fuck? I don't think that doing sexual cosplay is necessarily bad but god damn the girls getting involved in it create so much drama and make this community so toxic and intimidating for newcomers. It doesn't help that it's become such a big thing that its what normies usually see first when they look into cosplay. I'm just tired of it all, i dont want this to be what young girls are coming into this community expecting thats what they have to do for fame. It seriously needs to be talked about, and separated from actual cosplayers. Wanting some kind of internet fame or notoriety is fine!!! But as a cosplayer, there's other things you can do for fame. You dont have to get naked, hone your skills and do tutorials and such and help younger cosplayers! Do some twitch streaming, find other interests you have and integrate them into your cosplay work! Find something that makes you unique from all these dumbshit costhots who are just plashing their buttholes for money.

>>9801830
I always try to take the “where did you buy that” comments as a compliment, they think it looks professionally made and then I can proudly say that I made it myself. If you think they’re only asking to be catty, then you can give them a more smug reply

>>9803164
Honestly, same in my comm. There's lots of incredibly egotistical costhots in my area, but also a lot of people who may not do costhotty cosplays, but act like the costhots to a T just to kiss ass for followers. All of them buy 110% of everything from Taobao, as well, but they always wonder why they can't get into proper cosplay competitions, other than the ones that normie culture vultures hold in town at hipster bars and shitty clubs and the like.

I used to show up for meets all the time, since I live inner city close to the usual park of choice. However, their personalities just got so overwhelming, and I couldn't associate with them anymore. It's honestly so toxic that it doesn't just make me roll my eyes, but it makes me incredibly nervous being around them.

>>9803363
>community so toxic you’re nervous to be around them
I know that feel anon

>>9802066
I'll admit i cam....lol sorry! I'm getting paid and I still will not do ahegao selfies for anyone and believe me people ask every day.

Having the integrity to care about your craftsmanship matters being lewd isn't so fucking horrible either and people on here can be so prude but goddamn ahegao selfies are such an embarrassment.

>>9801932
so don't look at them; very noticeable collarbones skeeves me out, but all these things are a "me" problem.

>Hi, I want to cosplay [literally any character, but especially popular ones], any tips? (:

I know these people tend to be n00bs, but like, what the FUCK. What are they hoping to achieve? What do they expect anyone to reply to that? What do they even want? A bullet point breakdown of the costume with links to places to purchase and tutorials when necessary? Should I come over and put in your contacts for you, too?!

"I'm doing a cosplay and I'm lost about this particular piece" is one thing. "Anyone have any tutorials for this character?", "Which method of making this dress do you think is better", "What are some things about this character you find that most people get wrong", are all fine, but oh MAN do I hate the "any tips? (:" question whenever it comes up in cosplay forums.

>>9802066
came here to post this exact thing.
costhots are the step below cam girl where you can pretend you're still in it for the outfits and show your family and friends your "cool outfits" and yell at people for harassing you online because "You just like the character, don't take it sexually" but if you're just posting T&A costumes and taking ahegao selfies...just go cam, you'll make more.

>>9801798
>Whats one thing you REALLY hate seeing/hearing in the cosplay community?
Noisy hotel rooms.
Goddamn it fuck off.
Also the crazy cunts that try to sabotage other people's relationships.

>>9803587
This, it's even worse when they go "I have no experience in anything and want to do [character with really detailed, hard to even professionals to achieve, costume with huge props], any tips :)?". Dude/gal, if you have no experience, start with something easy.

>>9801915
THIS. The cosplayers who try to act the most wholesome and positive are usually the biggest uptight self-centered catty bitches under the surface. I never trust any cosplayer who writes sugary #cospositive speeches on their social media. It's a huge red flag that stands for "avoid this drama queen like the plague". It always sounds extremely cliched and forced too. The second something negative happens they start posting whiny passive aggressive vague tweets.

Another type I really can't stand is the cosplayers that constantly post selfies with captions about body positivity and how everyone is so beautiful in their own way, then turn around fishing for asspats making multiple twitter threads about how they hate their body/face so much and how fat/ugly they feel. It's so fucking embarrassing and tacky.

>>9803600
>Also the crazy cunts that try to sabotage other people's relationships
I feel ya. They've mostly been mentally ill people who love to jump into conclusions and over react

>>9802333
Seconding all of the stuff related to the male cosplayers you wrote anon. All of it. It fucking drives me crazy how men think they get a free pass to act like an obnoxious, sleazy thot just because they're male. No, you're just as bad as those attention whores in lingerie with your butterface and shirtless meme cosplays.

>bonus: some chick in the comment saying "finally a MALE cosplays this character!"
And THIS. A lot of girls pull off pretty male anime characters really well and often better than men who don't even bother to put on make up. But somehow just because they don't have a penis it makes their cosplay inferior? It's especially grating when a male cosplayer does a character from an otome/BL source to obviously fish for fangirls and people praise them to high heavens for being a "a real guy" making this cosplay. Even if the cosplay is shit.

>>9803416
>>9803363
My comm is filled with sjws or people trying to act like sjws so they dont get attacked or to seem nice when their two faced cunts, I know this feeling TOO well even at a con or outside of one.

>>9803593
>costhots are the step below cam girls
True, unless your lana rain, shes below all of them imo.

>>9803664
Honestly. There's these two people in my comm that cosplay Amuro Ray from Gundam 0079, one's a guy and the other's a girl. The girl honestly pulls him off so much better, since she actually has much more of a baby face and a better fitting uniform than the other guy does. She also isn't a 5'10, 30 year old obnoxious frat boy in a shitty uniform and zero makeup, so there's that too.

>>9802937
> For me it's when people try to do overly bright fabrics or bright wigs (matching the color on-screen).
Oh man I hate this with a passion as well. With wigs, especially those yellow wigs for blond hair and orange wigs for light brown hair.

>>9803583
It's harder to not look at gigantic things than it is to not look at small things, surprisingly enough.

>>9803656
Holy shit, this is so true. There's this one cosplayer that posts paragraphs upon paragraphs of #positivity every single day when she posts on instagram, and she was legitimately crazy, thinking some foreign cosplayer was copying her every move because they cosplayed the same character, and sent her fans to bully said cosplayer.

I hate when gulls complain about Lolita not being a fetish, because even though it's not, I get really turned on by cute girls in good cords.

>>9803772
cool cool

>>9803452
Cam where?

People selling tutorials for more than 5 bucks is what I hate to see.

I remember back when I had a tough time figuring something out I could look up how to do it and see how other people did it

Now a lot of tutorials are behind a paywall of some sort.

I miss when cosplay was an exchange of information and I saw everyone sharing "wow look at this cool new way to do this!!"
Rather than "donate to my Paterson in which you get to see me cosplay!!, meaning actually wearing a wig someone else made for me and something from Victoria secret or spreepicky ;)

>>9803207
Amen to that
>>9803587
I get annoyed at the types who barge in with no experience and ask "I want to cosplay this character with 20 different outfit parts, how do I make that? No I can't give you a reference picture, or an idea of my skill level, or what I need help with specifically, in fact I did no research and what is a wig?"
>>9803664
It's especially grating when they think they're Adonis and take shirtless selfies while they're built like a 10 year old boy. Then they turn around and mock fat girls for cosplaying anything? Like at least they have something under their shirts worth looking at, put a fucking sweater on and go back to middle school. Just because you bought a Tamaki wig off amazon doesn't mean you'll get all the fangirls throwing their pussy at you.
>>9803805
Selling tutorials as books is fine by me, because you have like 40 pages of them and there's an effort towards quality, I'm thinking Kamui or Punished Props, but I'm not paying $5 for a video of you styling a wig. Shit, for $5 I can get a garbage wig off Aliexpress and practice on it instead.

>>9802399
Everything else makes sense, but why not ask for construction tips on cosplay? That seems like an attempt to start towards your own self-improvement or start a conversation, not trying to piggyback on someone's fame. I have a pretty small following but every once in awhile someone will ask me how I did something and it makes my day.

>>9803604
I had an acquaintance pull this with the dark souls crystal knight, not even a fan of the game just liked the character design and expected me to make it for him... No.

he also had the nerve to shit on peoples cosplays. And hasn't ever done any himself.

>>9802063
Blasphemy

>>9803921
Depends on how you do it, some people use it as an excuse to talk to someone but isn't serious/has no intention of actually cosplaying it. It's not like every case of this is a red flag of someone asskissing.

>>9803772
Technically everything's a fetish to someone. The issue is assuming every lolita is doing for some sexual reason when very few actually do.

>>9801822
This sounds like the NC community

>>9802548
The opposite is also annoying: Looking just like one character and then only cosplaying it for years and thinking you are master cosplayer.

>>9804456
true, we have a few people like that in my local cosplay scene, they literally only have one costume they spend all year working on and hundreds into perfecting and they talk shit about other people's cosplays for not being as good

>>9801817
Whats with the weird skin under her armpit

>>9804471
thats not skin, the area under the fold is too dark and defined for it to be skin. im not sure what it IS tho. maybe hair or a bra strap?

>>9804480
Looked at it for a bit, and I think it's a piece of her braid sticking out. She probably has lightly layered hair or something.

>>9802063
GOD I charged straight into this thread to say ahegao selfies. They’re taking off in my local comm for some fucking reason, as well as trying to get shouted out by livinglewd. It’s driving me mad.

>>9804305
You can tell when people are actually interested in the thing they're asking about vs just trying to get your attention.

>>9803772
>posting about lolita in a cosplay thread
>cords

>>9801995
Yo kaddi how's Japan

>>9804775
Nice try

>>9803656
Literally every cosplayer I know irl that posts about cosplay positivity is a two faced shitbag. They constantly talk shit about other cosplayers if they do the same character and they even talk shit about their supposed “best friends” it’s fucking pathetic. If someone you even vaguely know is posting about cosplay positivity, do yourself a favor and cut them out of your life asap

>>9804696
Yeah, that explains it a little better than what I was saying.

>>9804456
Same with those people who do a funny/joke cosplay that gets a massive positive reaction, so they keep wearing the same damn thing to every con for 4 years straight.

Likely an unpopular opinion but I despise all gender ends unless something is actually being done with the design. 99% of the time gender ends are done the cosplay is almost the same as the original but with tits and long hair because uwu female characters get more delicious likes.

>>9805205
*genderbends, oops

Unpopular opinion and probably gonna get shit for this, but crossplayers.

>>9805361
I want to argue with you but at the same time, I understand.

>>9805361
I mean I've never met one who isn't insanely obnoxious so...

people who get super anal about cosplay accuracy. I was friends with this girl who would constantly post threads "who should I cosplay?". Whenever somebody suggested something, she would be like NO I can't be her. I'm 5'blah blah, and this character is 5 foot blah. She doesn't like it if darker skinned gals cosplayed as characters who are pale (which is a lot of characters). due to it not being accurate. "My bf looks like dis, who should he cosplay? Keep in mind he is a little chubby". Idk maybe just let your bf cosplay who he wants? Like holy fuck calm down, just let people have fun.

I get to a degree, that accuracy is important. especially if you cosplay for photoshoots or w/e. but stop being entitled and shitting on others who want to enjoy being their favorite character.

people who get super anal about cosplay accuracy. I know someone who would constantly post threads "who should I cosplay?". Whenever somebody suggested something, she would be like NO I can't be her. I'm (insert height here), and this character is 5 foot blah. She doesn't like it if darker skinned gals cosplayed as characters who are pale (which is a lot of characters). due to it not being accurate. "My bf looks like dis, who should he cosplay? Keep in mind he is a little chubby". Idk maybe just let your bf cosplay who he wants? Like holy fuck calm down, just let people have fun.

I understand to a degree, that accuracy is important. especially if you cosplay for photoshoots and such. but stop being entitled and shitting on others who want to enjoy being their favorite character.

>>9802517

I have some big, archy eyebrows so I do block them out for certain characters. However a) I full on brush them flat and use like red drag queen stubble concealer between the glue and concealer so they really don't show through,

b) I feel like a big issue with a lot of redrawn brows is not resting naturally on your brow bone and being overdramatic in the new shape

>>9806773
I feel like this also extends to the crafting of the cosplay as well? I mean, as long as one isn't entering something into a contest it shouldn't have to be 100% accurate either, i.e. putting 16 buttons on a garment instead of 18. Especially when the garment has to be specifically modified to fit the original proportions, or make the overall design easier on the eyes.

>>9804830
This. I'm a photographer with over 3k now and it's really crazy what some cosplayers will say to you to get free photos out of you constantly. I've definitely worked some of these costhots and learned the hard way that they're really two faced bitches that shit talk you behind the scenes. Just drop them forever

Not entirely cosplay-related since this particular instance was about a drawing I was making but it applies here too: people who talk shit about the source material you're working from. I was drawing Zelda from BotW and put a WIP on a discord server I'm in, and one girl jumped on that to tell me how much she hated BotW and harped on it for like 10 minutes when clearly I liked it a lot and I was looking for feedback on the art, not my tastes in video games.
Also the time when I made a cosplay of a Dragon Age character that I find underrated and got a lot of compliment sandwiches, like "oh I love your costume! By the way that character is awful and I hate her. But your dress looks great!" so that kind of bummed me out.

>>9806773
I don't police anyone else on this but I personally really love cosplaying characters who I feel like I really look like. Of course I could cosplay a dark-skinned character or a really tall character but I enjoy it much more to feel like an actual real life version of the character. The only times I do get anal about this is in groups, when for example, a short character is taller than a tall character. It just doesn't look right.

>>9806808
Kek, most likely you're doing something worth talking shit about.
No cosplayer is going to waste their time talking shit about a no name photog unless they're a creep or shit talker them self.

>>9805361
Oh both sides really
Both the girls who go around saying "teehee I'm an anime boy" and the guys who put on a dress but no makeup and talk about traps all the time

>>9804456
Or looking nothing like the character but cosplaying them and only them to the point where you act like them outside of cosplay. (I know someone too well for this)

>>9806953
I think we all know a cosplayer who is that person and gets way too into their character. The person I can think of went as far as to create a whole folder of reaction images of the character and has people call them by the characters name irl.

>>9806863
If it's a character that's the villain/has done some bad shit, I just laugh it off. I kinda love getting that kind of reaction for those kinds of characters.
But if it's a good character who's legitimately your favorite, yeah I can see how that can bother you.

>>9801817
> Don't post sexual comments, this is ART!
> Is literally spreading her ass cheeks

>>9806964
She's not really a villain, she can turn on you if you betray her or she can be an ally, I get that the people who betrayed her in their playthrough dislike her but if I'm dressed as her clearly I like her and I don't really want to hear that you think she's a bitch and a terrible character. "Hating" a villain because they're a villain isn't really the same as thinking they suck as a character and it was clearly the latter. If I was the evil queen and the reaction was "in character" I guess I'd probably play along but it's not on the same level if that makes sense? idk

>>9806995
I know, hence the second line in my post. I wasn't arguing with you.

>>9806863
Morrigan?

>>9801932
Obesity isn't a body type, its a disorder.

>>9804456
i used to cosplay the same character every year, not because i thought it was super good, but because i really liked the character and had limited funds. once i got money and made new cosplays... conventions didnt feel the same lowkey.

>>9807025
Nah, definitely Isabela. Pretty sure everyone likes Morrigan.

>>9806808
>having 3k followers
>actually thinking you’re better than someone and being an entitled little bitch

>>9804456
A girl in my area has a captain jack cosplay. She goes to several cons a year and always wears it. I’ve been going to cons for 6 years now and every con I see her at she has that fucking thing on. The cosplay itself appears to be well made, but her face/body type looks nothing like the character.

>>9806808
Hate to break it to you, but pretty much all photogs that get shit talked about usually deserve it. You're not famous or relevant in the community, and there's nothing for a coser to be jealous of about you to shit talk you for no reason. You should probably reevaluate how you're acting or treating people.

>>9807006
Oh, me neither, I was just trying to clarify what exactly bothered me about the situation
>>9807072
>>9807025
It's Anora from Origins

>>9807108
Well I'd say that, too. Anora was annoying. But hell yeah, I'm glad other people are out here cosplaying from Origins.

>>9803164
>>9803207
>>9803363
I once ended up sitting with some of the most ~cosfamu~ cosplayers in my country in a con shuttle bus and they were literally discussing which cosplays to buy next that best showed off their tits and/or “booty”. One girl called dibs on 2B but they weren’t sure what the source material was (anime? manga??) but lol who even cares, they were going to get sooo much attention for it!
At first I thought they were joking but it quickly became clear that they were dead serious. I reached Peak Thot that day.

>>9803720
Same here. In my comm you can’t even think that sexualizing a small child character is distasteful without someone calling you a sexnegative slut shaming prude. If you’re not 100% #sexpositive at all times you’re a bully, and the more tiddy you show the more of a #cospositive force you are considered to be in the community. It’s a shitshow and sooner or later it’s going to implode.

>>9807098
How about saying no for a shoot? Or not giving them raws? Nice try anon, but your arguement sucks lel

>>9807079
Did I hit a sensitive spot for you? :)

>>9807270
That's not going to have people "talking shit", and even if they try people will see right through it
The only way rumors will stick is if you're actually being a creep or being a shitty person. Nice deflection, but clearly your attitude here shows there's something wrong with you and not the cosplayers.

People who think males are to blame for Costhots.

>>9807277
They are though
if everyone just ignored them there would be no costhots because theres no market
but since males slobber all over them and give them money, there are more and more

>>9801820
You mean milky kitty?

>>9807276
You're arguement is pretty weak because of the personal attack rather than making solid statements that you can back up. You've already admitted that people do "talk shit". I think try to see if from the other person's perspective rather than simply claiming things that are clearly an exception to a rule. Most photogs aren't creepy and don't talk shit, why assume the exception to it? I like to have a decent discussion about it but given (the irony) your attitude to jump to conclusions, it's not worth any more of my time lol

>>9802492
they don’t make you do anything. Stand up for yourself. Before you know it they’ll force you to do worse.

>>9807280
NAYRT but I've seen the cycle of "thots enter male dominated hobby and ruins it" way too often.

The hardcore autists usually don't succumb but the large amount of normies/betas that joined the hobby do.

Without the thot, the betas don't do anything and are usually good natured people. They have the awful quirk of becoming a white knight/ultra beta only around thots though.

>>9807364
that's the point though, if they didn't become white knights, the thot would eventually leave onto the next thing that they thought would get them orbiters
the reason why thots are so prevalent in the cosplay community is because orbiters keep latching on and paying them

>>9807277
male here
males are actually to blame for that

>>9807347
Nice bawwwing and flouncing. Maybe you should take your own advice and see it from the other person's perspective. Realistically speaking, photographers are just photo machines in cosplayers' eyes. Knowing you or shit talking you won't up their status in any way, since you're a) not well known and b) irrelevant in the community. They likely ask dozens of photographers to shoot with them and get rejected by many of them. There's no gain to shit talking one random no name photographer who thinks he's in the big leagues now since he barely reached 3k followers, unless they actually have a bad attitude, because starting drama about a literal nobody with nothing to back it up will just look bad on them. Reevaluate yourself instead of lashing out to anons who are objectively viewing your situation.

>>9807455
>*Unless the photographer actually has a bad attitude, because starting drama about a literal nobody with nothing to back it up will just look bad on the cosplayer.
For clarification.

>>9807364
>The hardcore autists usually don't succumb but the large amount of normies/betas that joined the hobby do.
This.
I don't know why thots decided that cosplay was a good niche to get into, but it got normies interested and *that's* what started this cycle of costhots.

All of the saccharine positivity posts that cosplayers try to force down your throat and "respect and love everybody!!" "we are a community/family!!!". Everyone sounds the same and it gets really old. I will respect other cosplayers, but I don't have to like them, their costumes, or whatever kind of peppy bs they're instagramming about that day.

I cosplay but my biggest issue is that I feel absolutely no connection to this """community""" because it feels like it's based on entirely separate meaning of "cosplay" nowadays that I just don't care to be a part of.

Also, the fact that critique doesn't exist anymore unless you want to be pegged as a bully and a hatemonger. Even trying to give someone helpful advice for improvement is seen as negative.

Small nitpick but I'm tired of seeing gijinkas or original armored variants of characters where the armor is made in the style of WoW or League or something of the like. Honestly this swirly brightly colored tiddy armor all looks the same to me at this point. You'd stand out better as the original god damned character at this point. I don't care how good the craftsmanship is, its not visually interesting anymore and most of the time you can't recognize the source material anymore.

>>9807753
Why I don't like the armor gijinka bullshit is because it's a convenient way to make something that looks technically Impressive while avoiding anything u might find difficult.

Like your example pic, it's not bad work or easy or anything to do that. But like being able to make a strap on guard for your leg looks as visually impressive as if you had to follow a design and make full leg armor that formed to the complex curves of a calf. Accuracy to a design often means doing something more technically difficult that doesn't look difficult to a laymen.

>>9807753
I don't mind *that* aspect, but I hate that everyone follows Kamui's armor-making tips and it results in all of this armor looking the exact same.
Bra + pelvic + arm/leg guards + headpiece, all with that same weathering technique and general vague artsy designs.
I mean it's nice that people are branching out into making armor more but quit following her tutorials to a T, change them to fit the character/your taste.

>>9801798

>Literally every cosplayer from Vancouver.

I just can't watch japanese cosplayers anymore, their dollfaces make me drive an axe inti their skulls.
Don't get me wrong there are pretty decent and even great ones out there, but kostoy on social media you see the dollfaced million yard stare and the puffed up cheeks with circle lens. They look like somrthing out of a horror movie and they're more unsettling than cute or hot...
Why can't japs make faces other than babyfaces or a face signaling that they're close to crying, with uguuu qt poses...

>>9808082
Doesn't this also apply to cosplayers from other East and Southeast Asian countries?

>>9808100
Anyone with dollface syndrome incapable of showing any emotion with their face creeps me the hell out...

>>9807694
Its funny how they say "be positive" But are the most negative and toxic people you will meet.

>>9807753
Feeling this, anon. In the end the armors are pretty easy to construct too, it's just easy to make them look more complex than they actually are.

>>9808082
wew, sounds like some internalized jealousy here

Cosplayers who never iron their shit. Your cheap taobao cosplay wouldn't look as crappy if it didn't have visible folds and creases everywhere.

Cosplayers who wear military shit.

>>9808685
There's nothen wrong with that you soy baby.

My only real cosplay petpeve are going to a con and habing to wade through fat birches wearing shit they shouldn't and thots with their tits hanging out. Yes congratulations, you figured out how to combine string and cloth to resemble a character from a racey anime, wont make you any less of a slag. You have to actually hunt the diamonds in the rough now adays that put effort in

>>9808699
In spite of how awful the pic is, I find it almost endearing because it reminds me of when I pieced costumes together from household shit as a child. Considering this woman is very clearly not a child though... it's a bit more distressing.

>>9808685
What's wrong with that?

>>9809109
Airsoft idiots cause all kinds of problems at cons and "tactical x" cosplays are usually low effort and cancerous

>>9809210
I see. What about characters who do wear tactical gear? I'm thinking Metal Gear Solid

>>9809252
If you actually get the gear that matches the character and go proper effort on wig/makeup/accessories that's great, but I swear to god 99% of dudes in tactical gear are the male effort equivalent of *girl throws on a skirt and shiny was random wig* "teehee, look I'm an anime girl!"

>>9809296
Meaning, "I'm gonna wear this shit I already own because it totally makes me look badass guys, I'll just say it's a Call of Duty character or something" or your standard low effort male cosplay of "This character wars a double breatested military coat, I have a vaguely military jacket so that's basically the same thing, what are wigs?"

Fujoshis that cosplay hetero male characters and then have photoshoots of the characters being shipped.

Just stick to fanfiction please, nobody wants to see you dry humping in public.

>>9809462
I agree with this, but that's like every FtM crossplayer lmao.

>>9809462
What's worse is when the fujoshi go up to make cosplayers and try to get then to kiss each other. Like I don't care if you have 20 dollars, I'm not kissing my friend so you can keep off to it and post to tumblr for the hot yaoiz

>>9809546
But they're the same people that scream "SEXUAL HARASSMENT!!" when a man smiles at them.

>>9809564
Don't rattle up the sjw tree.

>>9802507
I kinda disagree, I personally think I looked way better in my cosplays whenever I shaved off my brows and redrew them a lot more animu-like (I don't do animu eye makeup tho). I've been using my natural brows lately and it's been nightmare, looks so shit no matter how well colored they are. Shape makes a shitton of difference.

>>9801817
>art

>>9804456
>tfw i know a dude who's been cosplay Jet for so long that his coveralls were literally molding last year at con

Apparently we have to charge for everything now, from photography to help applying a wig to help applying makeup. Photography makes sense if a photog is trained, it can absolutely be worth it, but I’m sick of amateurs with subpar skills in anything halfway cosplay-related looking at cosplayers as cash cows.

>>9810096
If you're consistently asking someone to applying full face on you, you should definitely pay them? Who the fuck wants to waste hours of their life applying makeup for free lmao

>>9810096
I know so many cosplayers who would look SO much better if they paid someone else $10-20 to do their face before con days/photoshoots; I hope this catches on.

>>9810119
>>9810156
If it’s someone with professional skills, sure. But just because you watch a few YouTube videos does not make you MUA caliber and you shouldn’t be charging.

>>9810156
Only if the person is good enough. I'd buy my friend lunch for her to do my makeup but I'm not paying 20 bucks for someone to put sloppy foundation and uneven eyeliner on me

>>9810096
I might be weird but I still don't understand the point of photoshoots for normal cosplayers. Hall shots and whatever else is good enough for me, I don't need to pay some amateur who picked up a DSLR 150 dollars just to get crappy pictures taken. Plus, most cons I go to have a free photo booth with a photographer and backdrop. You just have to get the pics from their site later

>>9810310
You kind of answered your own question: "hall shots and whatever are good enough FOR ME". A lot of people prefer something with a higher quality, or like photos that are more staged to fit the characters instead of just show off the costume. I consider making goid, artistic photos to be half of my hobby as a cosplayer, but obviously if someone is in it for the craftsmanship and personal connections alone they wont, and that's fine too. Plus the "amateur with a dslr" price is more like $20, $150 could easily get you most of the better photographers in the hobby and is still vastly underpriced compared with non-cosplay photography.

>>9810310
Some photographers are way worth the cost but yeah, you have to be really good to make me consider paying. It's nice to get really good photos of a cos you're proud of, but I usually just convince one of my sisters to do a shoot with my parents' DSLR

>>9810119
This girl does drag queen-tier makeup for idol cosplays, so I wouldn’t pay a dime for it.

>>9810373
What does the result look like?

>>9810300
If they're not good, they'll get very little bookings and know one way or another.

>>9810391
It’s fine for other stuff, like for Jojo or something, but idols are supposed to be more natural and cute. It’s too much. I definitely would not pay for this.

>>9810472
If there wasn't that black eyeshadow, I would be okay with it. Idols lean towards a natural look, but they're still entertainers who go on stage. A little glamour still fits in my acceptable range.

>>9810472
>>9810373
That's hardly drag, get over yourself.
Seconding the other anon that it'd be okay if it didn't have the black.

>>9810300
I'm gonna second this.
The thing about professional MUAs is that they can work with different face shapes, skin tones, and makeup styles, which is all stuff you'd have to know when doing makeup for other cosplayers.
Now this girl can charge if she keeps having to do her friends' makeup because it is apparently taking hours out of her day, but she shouldn't be charging a lot. Cosplay makeup is really something that's more beneficial if you learn to do it for yourself, it's not like a one-time thing like doing makeup for a wedding or some high-glamour event.

What bugs me is that male cosplayers still don't get near enough attention from photographers at cons and meetups. I like taking pics of a guy cosplaying as Gutts from Berserk, as much as I like taking pics of a girl cosplaying Saeko from High School of The Dead.

>>9808359
I. AM. A. MALE.
Just look at the most popular japanese female cosplayers online. The same uncanny face and photoshopped to oblivion. I don't get some weebs obsession over MUH SUPERIOR JAPANEEZ WOMYNN.

>>9809300
>>9809296
>>9809210
this.

>>9811365
wew, sounds like some internalized jealousy here

tits.

>>9811365
because the yellow fever is strong

>>9808790
This girl is local to my city and she is literally a high schooler. pls no bully cosplay babies

>>9811993
Ah! My apologies, I guess it's back to being endearing, thank god.

There's a girl in my comm who has ~7k followers from posting the same shitty "content" every damn day which is her in the mirror in a thong or some sort of taobao bodysuit.
She constantly posts about "cosplay positivity" and "two faced people" but will delete/block/send her neckbeard army after anybody who posts anything that isn't ass kissing. It's almost like the amount of validation she gets for her zero effort cosplay has entitled her to believe that she deserves this kind of attention and anyone who tells her otherwise is quote-on-quote a meanie uwu.
Costhots have cheapened this hobby to premade costumes and no props, "lewd photosets" and shitty character related merchandise + a wig being considered valuable enough to get more likes than skilled costume makers who have been in the hobby for over a decade. And saying any of this publicly will only get you flooded with hate from their fan bases of Indian dudes and orbiters and will get you labeled as being not #cospositive.
My salt runs pure through my veins.

ngl but i dont like the idea of making fun of people with cheap cosplays. I personally perfer making higher quality stuff cause its pleasant to look at, but i wouldnt want to make someone feel bad for not being able to afford a certain material or something. Or hell, even technique cause not everyone wants to be a seamstress and it really is supposed to be fun and i think cosplay elitist really just ruin it for everyone. Like poor, disabled or even people that dont want to spend hours on making a costume shouldnt feel unwelcomed to cosplay communities, i guess.

That being said, its inexcusable for professional cosplayers that make money off of the profession, but i think cringing at the average cosplayer is pretty absurd and hurts the community

>>9807280
>>9807446
>It's the people who are easily taken advantage of: They're to blame for people taking advantage of them!

I mean, I sort of agree, but the issue with costhots is the women deciding to be them. Putting the blame on thirsty men (who have been ruining dude-hobbies far longer than they've been infesting cosplay) ignores the fact that the women doing it still have agency to choose not to and opt to instead.

>>9811993
that's unfortunate then, she has the eye bags of a 40 year old woman

>>9812572
Horny men are not victims.

>>9812577
You don't have to be physically harmed or some such to be a victim. I'm not saying these people are being sexually X or Y, but they're obviously being manipulated.

If I did something to pander to a female audience and crashed a hobby with no survivors, I feel people wouldn't be nearly as quick to say it's the women's fault.

>>9812572
The men paying them also have the agency to choose not to and to stop encouraging the thots. They’re not being taken advantage of, they’re simply paying for porn. Both sides are selfish and opportunistic.

>>9812582
This is ultimately drug-analagous: Who is to blame more, the dealer or the buyer?

Well, men have had a solid demand for sex/pornography for all of recorded human history. The demand will always be there. Even if a tactical poon platoon was shipped to /r9k/'s front door, they'd eventually still ask for more. It's reliable enough a demand to essentially be a law of humanity.

So, when there's an already-present and nigh-eternal demand for that sort of material, does the person producing and distributing it have a responsibility to consider the community they associate their product with? I'd say yes. This isn't to say that men aren't responsible for buying, but they'd buy thotography if it were from an exhibitionist Lutheran subdemonination just as readily as they'd buy it from cosplayers. The community of origin is ultimately irrelevant to them.

Twilight, for example, killed YA as literary genre. If not for Harry Potter stretching on through it, the slump it caused might have lasted for longer than the near-decade it did. It ruined the attitude taken toward what novels to consider for adaptation in film for quite a while as well. Still now, possibly. And it was a huge success. And let's be honest; it was not grabbing men hand over fist and shoving them into seats or bookstores etc. Sure it became the cool-to-hate thing afterward, but the money talks regarding how it impacted things.

I've heard people say that Stephanie Meyer crippled YA, but never that some women are pretty much singlehandedly responsible for the havoc. And it would be true, certainly. Without them, there would have been no demand whatsoever for Twilight, or its spinoff franchise, both of which are as near objectively poor writing as a narrative can get. By the same logic, those women had the agency not to do it, and they did, and they had every right to buy/read/watch whatever in accordance with their own self-interests. But they're just as at fault as thirsty men. But Meyer provided.

this thot debate is really weird to me because it sounds like half of the posters debating it have never had any kind of significant contact with a man. do you lot honestly believe that ever "male" ever wants sex sex and only sex? what kind of people are you dealing with lmao?

>>9812591
>do you lot honestly believe that ever "male" ever wants sex sex and only sex?
Yes.

Also take your high school tier "lmao you dry cunts just can't get sex!!!" retorts back to the garbage can.

>>9812596
Also take your high school tier "lmao you dry cunts just can't get sex!!!" retorts back to the garbage can.
that's not even close to what I said. What it seems like is that you people have never dealt with men before in any significant way, or have only dealt with literal high schoolers if you think that every guy thinks about literally nothing but sex all day.
that's like, the epitome of a female version of r9k right there. it's just sad if you're that sheltered from realizing guys are normal people with normal goals and hobbies and sex doesn't take up 90% of their brain like you think it does.

>>9812572
Willingly paying money to see someone's shitty porn is not being taken advantage of, you retard.

>>9807277
Men are to blame because they're willing to pay for stuff that doesn't even make sense.
>>9807364
It was never a male-dominated hobby, and sexy has been part of it for a long time. However, there use to be a lot more canon sexy.
>>9807591
That's undoubtedly what attracted them to the hobby in the first place. Someone doing a sexy character like Felicia, Nonon, Ivy, Sexy no Jutsu, or even chick from Lollipop Chainsaw was always really popular. It's no wonder they latched on. However, they started doing risque photography of non-sexy characters, and there's little inclination to make a good costume if you spend 75% of the shoot not wearing said costume.

This killed it.

>>9812579
>If I did something to pander to a female audience and crashed a hobby with no survivors, I feel people wouldn't be nearly as quick to say it's the women's fault.
Kpop.

>>9812596
I didn't even know the female analogue of /r9k/ posters existed but I'm more surprised anyone would be proud of it.

>>9812602
Slippery slope to argue paying for something means you forfeit any ability to have been manipulated. That's akin to saying the porn industry cannot be exploitative because you get paid.

>>9812624
Guess I'm being exploited by the big businesses because I pay money for chocolate at the store.
Seriously, go be retarded and arguing your MRA shit somewhere else.

>>9812633
I didn't know that saying men are normal people with normal interests, hobbies, thoughts, hopes, dreams, etc outside of sex sex sex sex sex all the time was MRA shit lmao

>>9812638
>assuming everyone disagreeing with you is the same anon
Your MRA shit is trying to plug that dumbass beta orbiters paying for fap material is evil womminz taking advantage and exploiting them.
Go back to r/theredpill, faggot.

>>9812639
>assuming everyone disagreeing with you is the same anon
I can throw that right back at you anon, there are at least 2 other people in this argument that I can see. Maybe you should take your own advice

>>9812643
Your replies are a direct thread; you either don't know how to reply to the right person or you're trying to bs some "haha totally wasn't me being a retard" because of how idiotic you realize you're being.

>>9812639
I'm not that poster.
And I never argued anything MRA, at all.
I feel you're either a not-particularly-closeted misandrist yourself or you're attributing various posts to a single person misguidedly.

>>9812648
neither of us have said anything remotely MRA and if you're saying it's a direct thread then the same with you anon. Why are you so opposed to the idea that men exist outside of sex and chasing after women? are you that stupid?

>>9812649
>>9812643
>>9812638
>>9812624
>>9812602
Don't you feel embarrassed trying to samefag this hard?

>>9812652

>>9812651
I never said anything about men and sex thoughts. Reread the comment chain retard, I'll link it for you since you're clearly not the brightest bulb in the box
>>9812572
>>9812602
>>9812624
>>9812633
>>9812638
>>9812639

>>9812653
>LOOK AT MY EDITED SCREENCAP XXDDDD
the mark of a true samefag

>>9812653
You know “screenshots” prove nothing right?

>>9812652
this is embarrassing anon

Personally I’m really fuckin tired of non cosplayers (usually dudes) trying to police what is/isn’t cosplay or what makes a cosplay good/bad. Like sure everyones got an opinion but If you aren’t apart of the community don’t act like your opinion should be worth as much as someone’s who is. Idc how many times you’ve jacked it to cosplayers Chad you aren’t the arbiter for the gold standard of cosplay.

>>9812658
>if I change my screencap a little each time, they'll definitely believe me!!!
yea, i'd be embarrassed about having to go to such lengths if i were you too

>>9812661
lmao this is gold, you're just pure autism aren't you?

>>9812663
>y-you're AUTISTIC!
nice1, up the quality of your samefagging next time

>>9812666
haha jesus anon keep replying you really are a pretty good lolcow

>>9812668
>if i throw out these ~board related~ memes, maybe they won't realize how much of a newfag i am!
lurk more or go back to r/mra

>>9812661
>>9812663
>>9812666
>>9812669
would u 2 shut the fuck up already my god

>>9812669
lmao keep them coming anon

>>9812668
Are you sure you know what a lolcow is?

>>9812672
sure thing, totally-not-bothered anon!

>>9812674
lmao

>>9812678
xDDDD

>>9812661
>>9812666

Now that that poster has been BTFO
I dislike a good deal of prop weaponry. I know it's usually designed oddly because it has to fit around weapons checks at cons, but it's very difficult to get foam to make a convincing metal and the tags and whatnot they use on anything remotely realistic tends to clash for me.

>>9812682
You realize you can easily edit this through html right? Nice try, samefag. If you tried this hard in the first place, you wouldn't have been called out in the first place and btfo'd for being a retard.

>>9812686
haha you're fucking paranoid as hell anon. There is no conspiracy to "samefag" in this thread, there's just at least 3 anons who thought you went too far with your man-bashing and now you're just embarrassing yourself.

>>9812698
kek, not everyone samefags like you do, i only started replying in this thread after watching the samefagging going on
sorry sweetie, up your samefag quality or gtfo

>>9812706
lmao

>>9812707
xDDDD

>>9812698
There’s at least 3 anons thinking you’re a retarded samefag, too. You clearly got BTFO’d in >>9812654 for thinking all the anons were the same one bashing men, just take the loss and run.

>>9812710
Not only have you been demonstrably proven wrong, but this thread is hurtling toward the bump limit with no actual cosplay complaints going on, so let's get back to that.

Has anyone ever enjoyed the live music at a small con?

>>9812712
>demonstrably proven wrong
There's no proof anywhere in this thread, actually, but nice try. Like anon said, samefag better next time and learn to reply.

>>9812714
lmao

>>9812716
>tries to claim they're not a samefag
>ends all arguments in the same reply
Well.. alright then.

>>9812716
xDDDD

>>9812717
lmao

>>9812720
xDDDD

>>9812712
this thread was never good to begin with. It's like the 10th "what do you hate" or "unpopular opinions" or "what is kill cosplay" thread in a row and people have basically run out of things to post

>>9812725
I guess that's the nature of bitching threads anywhere when overdone.

this thread went unkawaii quickly

>>9812796
this thread was never kawaii lmfao

>>9809462
coughknitemayacoughcough

>>9812903
YES OH MY GOD

Does anyone else deal with way underqualified panels in their local conventions?

>>9812053
>quote-on-quote
I have no relevant commentary on what you actually said, but for future reference, it’s quote unquote

>>9812984
Also why do people say "quote unquote [the actual quote]" instead of "quote [the actual quote] unquote"

>>9812925
I've spoken about this one before. Some small local cons don't have enough quality content to fill 3 days worth of programming and thus, anyone who applies to run a panel can. Lower quality is just the nature of smaller cons with smaller attendance and less panelists to chose from. Some people actually need practice before becoming good presenters. If you think the quality of panels at your local con is sub-par, you can always submit to run one yourself.

>>9812994
Because it's a phrase used to say you're directly quoting someone. That's like asking why some people say "innit" when it really is "isn't it"

>>9812796
that's what happens when you hurt men's delicate feelings

>>9813152
Don't you dare start this shit again. Both sides were shitposting wildly out of control.

>>9813156
Nah, the shitposting really started when they misreplied to someone and doubled down on it

>>9813187
STOP I don't care who you think started it, don't start it again.

>>9813191
Then don't bother replying? You realize you're "starting it again" too right?

>>9803452
>I'll admit I cam

And people wonder why cosplayers have a terrible, gutter-tier reputation these days. God damn, how common is this shit? Are there any half-decent looking cosplayers who don't cam, do ahegao/lewd shit or sleep around?

>>9813305
Yes, there are. Also, you can keep camming separate from cosplay.

>>9813305
>sleep around
I seriously doubt it, a large number of the people who put in a ton of effort and really judge other people's cosplays are into the hobby for attention, and those types of people will definitely sleep around.
Plus, cosplay has kind of been taken over by people who sleep around and use cons as an excuse to do drugs, get wasted, and sleep around

>>9813308
>Also, you can keep camming separate from cosplay.

Camming is just trashy by itself. If I knew you were camming I'd instantly think less of you. Seems to be incredibly common among modern cosplayers though.

>>9813309
>Plus, cosplay has kind of been taken over by people who sleep around and use cons as an excuse to do drugs, get wasted, and sleep around

You put it better than I could, especially with the drugs and getting wasted thing. When did this happen? I'm glad my younger sister hasn't asked me if she can go to cons yet, because honestly? I'm not sure I'd let her go. From what I hear on /cgl/, cons these days are hotbeds of drugs, alcohol, partying in sketchy guys' rooms (often 10-20 years older than the cosplayers) and promiscuity.

How did a hobby for nerdy girls turn into something so trashy?

>>9813309
>>9813324
You both described Meghan Hartigan perfectly.

>>9813324
Honestly it depends on the friends you bring and the friends you make. Make druggy party friends, lose control of your own situation. If you’re into it you’re fine. My cousin enjoys cons and she’s a kid, but she also has a decent friend group. Sure some of them do drugs sometimes or whatever but they aren’t party thots. They squeal at cosplay and random shit and have a good time

>>9813328
>Sure some of them do drugs sometimes or whatever but they aren’t party thots.

I find that hard to believe. Drugs are always the gateway to being a whore. Always.

>>9813309

this is going to sound fucked up but sometimes i feel like we need rapists to keep those sorts of trashy chicks in check, like those stranger-rapists disincentivize behaving like a sloot, and they basically mind-break the girls they rape, so it's much less likely they'll be as extroverted as they were before the rape.

rape is fucked up and rapists are fucked up, but it's almost like it's part of a natural cycle.

>>9813332
except being raped can sometimes turn chicks WAY sluttier than they were before, because they gain a fucked up relationship with sex

>>9813324
>weekend away from parents and family, which means no one to bust them
>older guys, which gives them a chance to prove how adult and grown up they are
>guys will give them alcohol, drugs, or whatever for a chance at sex
then it feeds into itself, where people start going to cons for an excuse to drink, do drugs, and have random sex, then other people hear about it and think that's what cons are for.

>>9813324
>How did a hobby for nerdy girls turn into something so trashy?

Weeb culture. Weeb culture is arguably just as "degenerate" as listening to Lady Gaga/Katy Perry, if not worse. At least Lady Gaga fans are kind of aware of the theatricality of it all. But there's something about weeb culture that inculcates people to not understand concepts like propriety, or sexual boundaries.

Hence why you have so many neckbeards being gropey and honestly not understand why what they are doing is wrong, or why you have so many girls in the hobby who will loudly talk about their latest dildo (while in cosplay), or about what "kinks" they enjoy in public places like restaurants.

Japanese anime and manga are sexualized in this sort of slapstick, childish way, which is especially bad when it comes to man/womenchildren as they internalize this slapstick sexuality as something harmless.

Then there's numerous other factors at play:

- The irony culture. Being able to couch things like broadcasting your interest in hardcore incest NTR porn publicly in a socially acceptable way because it is "ironic". See also: Ahegao selfies, "sempai noticed me xD", "lewdddddd" etc.
- The generally slutty way Japanese anime/manga characters dress (see: Sailor Moon as an example of characters that under any other circumstances would be pornography-tier).
- The sort of people the hobby attracts - listless people who lack a group identity - looking to attach themselves to some sort of subculture to give their lives meaning.
- People who were unpopular in high school who see the convention/cosplay culture as a place to live out a surrogate high-school life, where they're actually popular and desirable.
- Generally: the increasing normalization of violent pornography, and the expectation that women should be into it too (only frumpy weird chicks aren't these days, apparently).

Pic related incidentally, the fans of this franchise encapsulate everything I described.

Did I miss anything?

>>9813345
People complain about slutty characters, but the moment a barely clothed female character in a super popular anime emerges, she immediately becomes the most cosplayed female character. Every time.

The problem isn't people like Nigri, or even the anime itself. It's just that the hobby is full of daddy-issues ridden sluts and always has been. There's no way around this. If you didn't have a good relationship with a father figure you respected, you WILL become a slut. It's destiny.

>>9813349
Yes, that would fall under:

>- The sort of people the hobby attracts - listless people who lack a group identity - looking to attach themselves to some sort of subculture to give their lives meaning.

Good fathers don't let their daughters become cosplayers (or lolitas).

>>9813354
>or lolitas
>wearing alternative fashion means you have issues now

>>9813360
I know there's a few lolitas who aren't fucked up, but let's be honest, it attracts a similarly fucked up fanbase as cosplay does. Just go onto tumblr's lolita-sphere scene and see how much of the average loli's blog is porn reblogs and stuff about "daddies". It's nauseating.

>>9813360
I mean, look at any alt fashion like goth, emo, etc and they're full of the type of people described in that post. Unpopular people who subscribe to a subculture to try to fit in and feel popular

>>9813349
>>9813354
>>9813361

>>9813360
lolitas on here post about showing off their buttholes at meets and brag about farting in their dresses
that seems like issues to me

>>9813345
Yeah. Describes every relationship I've had with girls I met on 4chan, roughly speaking anyway. I don't even hate these girls, but the issues described are absolutely undeniable to anyone who has dated from this "scene", or near to it. Especially among girls on this site, what the fuck is wrong with you chicks? You're almost as porn addicted as /r9k/.

>>9813367
>not knowing that feels threads are supposed to be containment areas for shitposting and /r9k/ crossposters

>>9813367
>what is shitposting
I think those posts are retarded as any gull does but if you honestly believe that lolitas are the ones posting them then do I have news for you

>>9813363
This. I love lolita and I love girls with a goth aesthetic too. But these girls do have serious issues nine times out of ten, there's no denying it.

>>9813363
>subscribe to a subculture to try to fit in and feel popular
lol what
You realize people just like to express themselves in different ways and it has nothing to do with popularity or attention, right?

>>9813324
>Camming is just trashy by itself. If I knew you were camming I'd instantly think less of you. Seems to be incredibly common among modern cosplayers though.
Sure but my point is, if you don't advertise your camming to your cosplay audience or vice-versa, your camming won't affect cosplay's reputation

>>9813345
>You are now aware there are weebs who are so pathologically obsessed with living in Japan that they turned to prostitution in Kabuchiko to stay there
>You are now aware there are documented cases of girls from 4chan (white ones, not even asian ones) who got into unservicable debt because of an obsession with Japanese hosts and had to work it off through prostitution
>not even good looking men
>fucking HOSTS

I'm starting to believe that even the juggalo sub-culture adherents have more self-respect than weebs and sexual restraint tbqh.

>>9813375
>has nothing to do with attention
>posts related to lolita frequently are related to follower count, like count, and other social media bullshit
I didn't even say all lolitas, don't get your bloomers all twisted because you can't handle what someone else is saying

>>9813380
>posts related to lolita frequently are related to follower count, like count, and other social media bullshit
??? Since when? Anon I'm sorry I think you're typing out of your ass, you might want to get that looked at.

>>9813345
You put into words what I've wanted to say about the scene for years. Thank you.

>>9813329
ugh no, there are just different types of drugs. party shit like MDMA can make you horny, weed can make you laugh all the time. amphetamine is very common drug for students or IT workers and it has nothing to do with sex, lowers your libido to zero, just makes you feel genius and also do not sleep few nights in a row.

>>9813427
I just think it's funny how you get these chicks at con raves taking mdma and hooking up with dudes and going back to their rooms while calling themselves feminists.

>>9813377
Considering the sex is free with Juggalettes, you wouldn't be wrong.

>>9813434
Yeah that kind of thing is stupid. The drugfriends of hers are occasional weed smokers but I assume not much else. They’re not super open about it which makes me imagine it doesn’t get too much worse. Having spent time with heroin addicts you tend to spot one.

>>9813345

What is it about the Persona franchise that attracts these people? The sloppiest, most prone to getting smashed, most likely to hook up cosplayers I see at cons are always Persona ones.

>>9813324
>From what I hear on /cgl/, cons these days are hotbeds of drugs, alcohol, partying in sketchy guys' rooms (often 10-20 years older than the cosplayers) and promiscuity.
Only if you let it be. That kind of thing happens to people looking for it (usually late-night shit anyway). There's still tons of kids at cons.

>>9813464
>usually late-night shit anyway

What do you mean?

>>9801798
>people obviously being slutty, then getting mad at getting sexual attention. Either don't act like a slut, or accept the consequences.
>People who want a full cosplay for 30 euro, then expect to look like some pro. Like really, I love good cosplay, but I hate this cheap "I want to be this character but not actually pay for a hobby" looks. Similar to the "I want to have attention for being a cosplayer look how cool I am I am a geek" kinda look.
>People who ask for a full cosplay is second hand sale groups, especially for super easy to find, casual things you can find in any normal clothing stores.
>People who cosplay someone who they could never even look close too. I don't think you need the exact same body as the person you're cosplaying, but you need to make it look believable. If you're morbidly obese and try to be a sexy, thin, big breasted woman, it ain't gonna work. Unless you make it as a joke to begin with, but then, I think it's good to be able to laugh at yourself.
>super bright coloured wigs and other things that look like on-screen instead of real life versions of the character (I don't mind good drawn eyebrows and such). Even in things like animegao kigurumi it should look like it isn't something from an anime pasted into this world, because the rest isn't drawn either. It just looks odd.
>[something] version of this character. If the character never worn it, it's just some random outfit you made up from another character. I really think it's stupid. Plus points for sexy versions of non-sexy characters, if you wanna be sexy, choose a sexy character...

>>9813349

Dude it doesn't even need to be a scantily clad character. They'll take characters and cosplay scantily clad versions of it regardless.

This isn't an issue with cosplay though. It's been getting this bad ever since instagram/facebook went big.

Girls prostrating themselves in whatever way possible for male attention while pretending they're not.

>>9813468
The night crowd at a con is very different from the day crowd. Less cosplays (or at least less heavy cosplays), drunk people about, rambunctiousness, etc.
A lot of rave junkies (ie. people who are only there for the rave and don't care about the convention) as well.

>>9813485
>A lot of rave junkies (ie. people who are only there for the rave and don't care about the convention) as well.

Why would anyone even bother with this? How much of a thot have you got to be to go to these raves anyway?

>>9813486
well anime and furry cons are pretty much the only places that consistently have raves anyways.
there's also the fact that a ton of people go to these events because they think there's gonna be a ton of sex from vulnerable nerds.

We know about the guys who think they're gonna get laid, but there's also a lot fo girls that think they're gonna find a sugar daddy or a hot but autistic guy there.

>>9813488
>they think there's gonna be a ton of sex from vulnerable nerds.

Is there?

>but there's also a lot fo girls that think they're gonna find a sugar daddy or a hot but autistic guy there.

You're kidding, seriously?

>>9813491
>Is there?
Hit and miss. High risk of clingers and a lot of cosplayers can actually be pretty gross. If you have no standards, it's definitely doable, even if it isn't advisable. Happens every year here, anyway.

>>9813494
Have you ever seen it happen to a friend or a girl you know?

Seems like nerd girls have a bad rep for a reason.

>>9813491
>You're kidding, seriously?
not joking at all, that's something I've seen from meets.
there are quite a few girls that will attempt to pick off the better looking people in groups at cons or will try to flirt and get guys to buy them things. There's definitely a considerable number of them that go to cons at least indirectly to see what they can get from people

>>9813498

>there are quite a few girls that will attempt to pick off the better looking people in groups at cons or will try to flirt and get guys to buy them things.

Hmm I don't believe you this hasn't happened to me

>pick off the better looking people in groups

ahh..

>>9813498
>there are quite a few girls that will attempt to pick off the better looking people in groups

Are these the sorts of girls who go for chinks/gooks, or normal girls?

>>9813497
It's happened to one of my female friends and one of my male friends. I don't stay in con hotels at night since I only go local, so I've never dabbled in "after dark" con activities.

You have to keep in mind that there are two different groups of people that consider cons as a place to get laid: Normies that could go do just as well anywhere else for a hookup, and autists that need at least the convention as a common point of interest to build up from. The former group isn't going to go scouting out people, typically. You'd just approach/be approached as you would someone in any other circumstance when your goal is a hookup.
The latter group might be more active in trying to recruit people, but you'll see them going for cost-effectiveness: smaller groups where the people are average-above average in appearance. From what I've heard, the people that just use cons as a game booster still act as insecure as you'd imagine, so they don't shoot for the stars often unless they already know a particularly attractive person prior to getting to the con.

>>9813515
Did your female friend sleep with the guy then?

>>9813481
>[something] version of this character. If the character never worn it, it's just some random outfit you made up from another character.
How do you feel about fan-art cosplays then? No offence, I'm just really interested.
Ofc, I mean well made and accurate cosplays, but they're still costumes a character hav never worn canonically. I mean, there are plenty of fanart cosplays with costumes way harder to handle than original outfits, esp when we're talking about anime with most of the cast wearing school uniforms. You can be really in love with a character, but school uniforms are boring as fuck, so you chose an interesting fanart based costume instead (like fantasy!AU, sci-fi!AU, whatever). Thoughts?

>>9813518
She did. The male friend did as well (different people, not both friends with eachother)

>>9803724
can you explain that?

>>9803724
>>9813969
sorry, you misread it, you said below
nothing to explain then

>>9813332
>i feel like we need rapists to keep those sorts of trashy chicks in check
what is, if that "trashy" chicks are actually willing anyway?

>>9813973
*I misread it (damn, what's up with me)

>>9813309
>>9813324
>>9813338
>>9813345
>>9813377
I know, I might trigger a few people now, but is that true?
cause I must admit, getting laid was one of the reasons why I wanted to go to cons once (don't worry, I was never at one so far)

>>9813305
>>9813309
I know people who go to cons and tell their s/o they want to be in an open relationship just so they dont break up with them and they can still sleep around like they would if single, guys and girls. its fucking disgusting

>>9813324
This, all of this.
The first statement I relate to SO MUCH because most of the people I know cam for cosplay yet crash on Lana Rain for being the way she is (with cosplay) yet they do the same thing. Their honestly as low as her and should keep camming and cosplay separately.

>>9814418
>>9814423
I've even heard normie fratboys at my college joke about how girls into "Japanese stuff" are "total sluts". They specifically mentioned cosplayers too.

I'm reaching the point where I just want to pack it all in. Cosplay was fun ten years ago but these days the crossover with the camming, porn and fetish scenes is just too deep. It's actually becoming less and less likely that you'll meet a cosplayer who isn't into this stuff. Or at least isn't promiscuous or in an open relationship or whatever.

They can do what they want but god damn as a genuinely shy, awkward girl I don't relate to these people at all anymore. They're completely alien to me. Plus the bad reputation nerdy girls and cosplayers increasingly have even among normies isn't something I want to be a part of anymore.

>>9807277

Sorry guys have a fair amount of blame. I am astonished daily on the sheer amount of odd things guys will buy from costhots. I just can't fathom why someone would pay someone else for a picture of them in a bikini.

>>9814553
>t. Unaware of at least a century of people doing just that.

Not that I get it either, especially since porn is way too free and easy to come across (even including shitty cosplay). I guess it's a combination of people thinking it's even better to meet the subject of the photo in person and people that actually do just want to get photos as memorabilia. I try to get a photo or poster from every event I go to regardless of s ubject matter.

>>9807277
Males are to blame, in a sense..It only takes 10% of the population of weebs to keep this shit afloat.

>>9814482

>Plus the bad reputation nerdy girls and cosplayers increasingly have even among normies isn't something I want to be a part of anymore.

Just set yourself apart by being you. If you act respectable around them, then they have no reason to think ill of you.

This shit isn't even on the radar of normies, the idea of camming culture/fetish shit being associated with going to conventions and dressing up isn't a thing to them.

Fake ass bitches who talk all the time about ”muh love and positivity” but then turn on you the minute you have a different opinion and then everyone of their mindless followers and friends barge up on them/witchhunting (I swear this happens all the time with all those wannabe teenagers on instagram who all is like 20+ in reality...

I mean it can happen irl too but I see it way more on places like insta(mostly related to all these ”tumblr”asthethic kids.

And also transtrender in general, i can’t count tge number of girls in dresses and pretty sparkly makeup, only to have ”HEY IM SUCH A FEMINE GUY xd” and their always in the same fandoms, whether it’s hs, overwatch, etc

>>9815886
This might as well extend to transgendered people period.

The only trannies I've encountered that weren't shit 100% of the time were the ones I didn't know were trans. How did I not know? Because they didn't fucking tell me every single day holy shit.

>>9815935
Agreed, and this is coming from someone who has struggled with severe gender dysphoria, i just can’t stand the majority of em, especilly in cosplay, such a toxic mix...

Also when someone screams on top of their lungs about trans stuff, it usually means they are faking it or doing it for attention, and it’s so shitty.