/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9695307

selfposting with my jolteon that arrived the other day. I ought to wear Zorua more often, Natalie needs a break every now and then v:

I'll drop some pictures of the last Birmingham meet in tomorrow, we had three really cute rodent visitors and some interaction with the police lol

I'm so excited, my friend is letting me wear their partial to MFF
I'm hoping by next year I'll finish making my own suit
Nervous tho, I've never worked with foam.fur so I'm trying not to be too ambitious

>>9695525

What does it look like?

I absolutely love mochiri's fursuits so much and it breaks my heart I'll never be able to order one (no payment plans and premades)

>>9695528
aw that does look nice, the face is super distinctive. the hair almost reminds me of laki and loki as well
there's no reason you can't put money aside and save up though!

>>9695527
It's most likely going to be this one (which is super cute imo) but they have a opossum they said I might be able to wear when they are wearing this one

>>9695535
This is Jethro, the Opossum btw

Did he get a crushed velvet body suit?

>>9695537
cute! I love opossums so much

>>9695561
that def looks new! I like it!

>>9695530
I have been but it's a slow process! I can budget about $250 a month so it'll take me at least a year. I'd love to try making my own suit but it's harder than it looks

POST YOUR FAV SUITS~~~

>>9695622

Flammie plushie is coming along (no head because i'm still editing the head pattern)

>>9695528
Lovely suit

>>9695666
Do you still want that model exported? This might help if you're using blender: https://github.com/powroupi/blender_mmd_tools/tree/dev_test (The original mmd_tools refuses to work with that pmx model for some reason)

>>9695666
you work fast!!!
also >666

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_FQU4KzN7A

woops, irrelevent link

>>9695676
I don't use blender but i keep it on my pc for exports since for some reason any fan giddy export relies on either blender or 3ds max.
Thanks very much! I'll try it out, and yes I tried pmx editor and it didn't work for me. And I can't seem to export it from actual Miku Miku Dance itself.
I checked out the model and compared it to my head model in the meanwhile though and it seems like my head base is pretty accurate so I'm very satisfied with that.

(and yes it looks ridiculous without fur i know)

>>9695622

>>9695703
he looks so squish

>>9695739

>>9695731
>Big head mode

>>9695622

>>9695666
Omg I'm already in love with it

>>9695622
I don't have a favorite atm, but I like this cutie.

>>9695314
Omg who is this suiter? I’m in love.

I made my first fursuit this year! How did I do?

>>9695852
the muzzle could definitely use work but the rest looks pretty good! i love throax!

>>9695852
If that suit is based on what I think it is, you better be careful, mods seem to enforce that rule more than the no-furry rule

>>9695561
it looks like short-pile fur, just real shiny

I wanted to compare these two Tibetan mastiffs.

Which did the dog justice?

>>9695926
On model or build quality?
Should be obvious which one wins which category

>>9695622
yumekui yumekui yumekui
my fave demon dragon dude

>>9695676
Hey, that's pretty cool. Could I get that model if you're still willing to share it?

>>9695948

>>9695926
it's very obvious which suit looks better
but like..
you're comparing a toony sparkle dog vs a semi-realistic suit
c'mon.


on another note, cool suit storage found at walmart.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/OxGord-Portable-Storage-Organizer-Wardrobe-Closet-Shoe-Rack-Customizable-Shelves-Stainless-Steel-Frame-Side-Pockets-69-x-51-x-18-Beige/47062937

>>9695852
I haven't seen the show since s4 but that's p good

>>9695507
A pair of CUTIES. I love Pokesuits.

i'm working on head and paws only character right now, and i'm thinking of buying a few supplies from this vendor... anyone have good/bad experiences?

I just need the jaw hinge set, the feline foam toes, gums, and jaw set.

I feel like I may have some issues using my own resin cast head with the jawset but I figure I'll make do.

dreamvision-creations.myshopify.com

>>9695950
https://new3dssuchti.deviantart.com/art/MMD-Zeraora-714930483
You're gonna have to export it to something sensible yourself though.

>>9695852
Please keep mlp in/mlp/

>>9696190
1. It isn't a horse character or even recognizable as being from tiny equines unless you keep up with the show, in which case why would you care?
2. It is only a big deal if you make it one.
3. They won't let you talk about fursuits over there they will just shitpost around you so this is honestly the most fitting place for discussion about it.

>>9695852
For your first suit it isn't a bad attempt! Definitely a lot to learn construction wise but please keep at it.

>>9695926
> Someone grasping at straws for drama

>>9695950
I got it finally, this is just the mesh however, and the textures are in two image files so you would need to reassign some parts of the mesh if you want the correct texture. Removed the bones since the export didn't take them well. The mmd plugin for blender linked before worked well!

https://www.mediafire.com/file/9w1d88ajja8ek4s/Zeraora.rar

>>9696190
its a costume on cgl, get out

>>9696236
>>9696278
Enjoy your 3 day vacation then
:^)

>>9696247
Friend, I don’t think you understand what comparisons are for.

I like both suits. There’s no drama surrounding either.

>>9695755
I wonder if they meant for the aheago look

>>9695926
>justice
Depends what you mean by this. imo the left one is sub-par, since it's meant to look realistic, but just looks like that st bernard dog from loony toons.
>but also the hypno eyes and the long fur starting after the cheeks on the right one set it's fate

>>9695948
I though this was a griffin
>i can't tell the species with like 60% of kemonos

>>9696299
Autism

>>9696347
I think we already knew you had autism if you watch mlp and think you're above the global rules.

>>9696347
nyart but look at how you responded. The person basically said
>please don't post this thing that's against the rules, thanks
and you responded with
>fuck you
>get out I do what I want
That's kind of why furries and bronies get a bad name, you're just looking to get mad about something even if someone is politely asking you to not do something. Do you also get in people's faces even if they're afraid of mascots or are trying to avoid you?

>>9696349
We are here to appreciate and share how suits are built, not specifically mlp. He asked for suit feedback and didn't state it was from mlp. What is your problem?

>>9696349
I’m not that anon, newfriend :^)

>>9696351
>all that from a one word reply
autism

[internal struggle intensifies]

>>9696361
>one word reply
what? are you seriously that blind that you can't look at previous replies?
here, I'll point them out for you
>>9696236
>It's not a horse so fuck off, we don't want to be shitposted so we'll bring our shit to your board
>>9696278
>get out

overall, it's a really rude response to someone politely asking you to not post something that by all accounts, should not be on this board. the fact that you're also shitposting and being overly inflammatory, which like I said really hurts people's perceptions of furries and bronies. maybe try playing nice if you want to post shit on someone else's board.

>>9696366
>I insert aggressive words into people who don't agree with me's message and add a polite tone to messages that agree with me that really comes off as neutral at best

I'm glad you admitted it, anon

>>9696366
>post shit on someone else's board
>Love Nikki thread, could be moved to /vg/
>Skincare thread to /fit/
>Draw thread to /ic/
>larp thread to /tg/
Oh but wait
>Global rules apply to all boards unless otherwise noted
So having nice skin makes a good cosplay, a drawing of j-fash stuff is j-fash related, larping involves costumes, and furs/pony suits are also costumes.

>>9696447
There is no global rule that says skincare threads need to be in /fit/ but there are global rules that say pony and furry content need to stay in /mlp/ and /b/ respectively. Mods have given a pass to furry content here as long as you lot don't post furry art, but don't get all pissy just because someone asked you nicely not to post something that breaks the rules and regulations gets banned on here.

>>9696476
You keep doing it, anon
>>9696369

>>9696477
I don't know what you're talking about or why you think you're above the rules. You posted pony content outside of /mlp/. This is against the rules. Someone asked nicely for you to not do that.
You then took up an attitude and started shitposting. Just stop.

>>9696482
>You posted pony content outside of /mlp/
>You then took up an attitude and started shitposting
>You are me because /cgl/ is one person

>>9696487
What are you even saying in your rambling?
I'm assuming it's just you who posted it because you seem to be the only one who's taken such offense that you've been shitposting over and over at me.

>>9696489
Do you really need it spelled out that I am mocking you because you keep straw-manning even after being called out?

>>9696493
WTF are you talking about? Just don't post mlp on non mlp boards. That was all I asked before you got some attitude.

>>9696494
next time please just report the post if you don't agree with it and stick to your million ita threads. It's not up to you to moderate a thread.

>>9696494
Well I assume you're shitposting now, the straw-manning is pretty blatant if you take the time to read your own posts but here i'll point some examples out for you.

>>9696366
>>It's not a horse so fuck off, we don't want to be shitposted so we'll bring our shit to your board
Not a real quote

>>9696351
>please don't post this thing that's against the rules, thanks

>fuck you
>get out I do what I want

Intentionally making the pro mlp-suit messages more angry than they are, prettying up the anti-messages to make them seem more innocent, even after one of them used the ":^)" face

But this is probably bait by this point so I don't care anymore

>>9696506
And here you're assuming that every anti brony post was mine. Do you think that I some how made every post in this thread that disagrees with you, while you posted about cgl being a monolith?
I was nothing but polite in the way I asked, but I guess it's too much to ask people to not break the rules, even being polite and saying please at the time. It's weird that you are so hostile to me this entire time for making a simple request that you follow the rules.

>>9696512
Ok, you win, can this stop now?

>>9696482
Lol anon I wouldn't even have recognized it as pony hadn't it been brought up explicitly. Mods gave furries a pass for this because it's about costumes, the /mlp/ rule is 1) from a different time and 2) pretty clearly about preventing a specific behaviour. Anon is here to talk about costumes, not ponies, the costume in specific just happens to be a pony.
This is like demanding post-op trans people use their bio-sex bathroom; sure, there's a point of technicality in there, but contextually it's just absurd to try and reinforce the rule in question.

>>9696482
Saying you can't post pony related costumes in /cgl/ makes as much sense as banning all /a/ related costumery from here as well. I'm not a fan of pastel coloured equines either, but as long as it's still on topic, why's there a problem? Also what >>9696571 said about the reasoning for the rules and their being for something completely unrelated.

>>9696494
I will say, I’m the one that posted horse suits in the last thread and I received no ban.

its ponies
we're in a fursuit thread
calm
down
pls

I'm the anon who posted my Thorax fursuit, and man o man is the autism real in these people who think I'm going to get banned for that!

This entire thread is a violation of global rule 3, so having a relevant post that violates global rule 12 isn't going over the line. This thread is allowed because it's relevant to cosplay and an mlp fursuit is also relevant to cosplay.

You wouldn't even be able to recognize it as an mlp character unless you're caught up to the latest season. Sperging out about people posting content from a show you watch is just kind of hilarious on it's own.

>>9696657
Gosh this looks amazing. Source?

In general requesting delicious, delicious WIPs.

>>9696589
>Spherical buckram
I've never seen this before, wonder how practical it would be to try to shove some servos in there to make them move?

>>9696685
https://twitter.com/ManuelBarks

>>9696278
>>9696174
Awesome, thanks a bunch.

How sexy is too sexy a fursuit for your average con?

>>9696867

>>9696873
Hey, a Super Nintendo. Cool.

>>9696875
*Super Famicom

>>9696476
>There is no global rule that says skincare threads need to be in /fit/
>5. Health threads belong on /adv/ or /fit/.
Skin care is a health thread, so it belongs on /fit/. Since you didn't argue the other points so I guess we agree there
And you missed this
>Global rules apply to all boards unless otherwise noted
Fursuiting is cosplaying and so it can be posted on the cosplay board because board rule one says it can.

>>9696899
Fuck
>There is no global rule that says skincare threads need to be in /fit/
No but there's a board rule for it
>5. Health threads belong on /adv/ or /fit/.

>i'm gonna stop now

Is Zeraora going to be the new hot character to suit as? Because I really want to make a Zeraora suit as well but I don't want people to feel like it's turning into a race or that we're all stepping on each other's toes.

>>9696990
there's someone itt working on a zeraora, you can probably share tips

>>9696990
i never got the vibe that it's a race to be honest
i've only seen the anon on the thread actually in progress of making one
go 4 it

once the poke is officially released you might see a bunch of people doing it, but i dont think it'll be the new lucario

>>9696994
>but i dont think it'll be the new lucario
Bruh, this thing looks tailor made to be exactly that.

>>9696999
they can try, but it won't happen lol

>>9696993
Maybe, though I might not even be able to get to work on mine for a while. It's definitely on my to-do list.

>>9696278
>>9696174
It's a bit strange how they modeled this, it seems like there are a lot of extraneous polygons. Like, there are plenty of flat surfaces that are subdivided for no real reason. Like where there would normally be one triangle, it's split into four triangles making a single flat triangle. It's weird because that doesn't add to the roundness of the model at all, they still make one triangle, just quadrupling the amount of surfaces for no reason.

This probably doesn't matter to anyone, I just thought it was odd is all.

>>9696589
This is creeping me out. It's really interesting but also looks like some kind of art-student's 3-d design project. I feel like it's a Hyena but the snout looks like a pig and the ears make me think of dried dog treats.

>>9696903
vaporeon?

>>9697042
I thought it was Lunala last I heard

>>9697029
Usually they try to keep the size of polygons uniform, it makes deformations better looking esp if polycount doesnt matter as much and these poke models deform a lot

>>9696993
I am! If you got any questions feel free to ask. Just struggling to find nicer quality lemon yellow shag in europe. Mohair bearmaking in uk has a wispy yellow option but i feel like its low quality.

>>9697029
Probably turned on turbosmooth

>>9697139
Is mohair bear supplies crap quality? They looked pretty good from the suits I saw

>>9697412
Yeah but from that particular shag (its not classified as luxury shag) it looked pretty shitty and emailing them was a waste they just tell you to get a sample. Which would be quite some money because international shipping

Since shipping is 15eu (even for samples) can anyone help me find out if these choices are proper for zeraora? It's more important for me to get the color right, but I really feel like these specific listings are of lesser quality than the luxury shag (they're also cheaper)

Short dark grey: https://www.mohairbearmakingsupplies.co.uk/index.php/fabric-room/faux-fur-fabrics/short-pile-faux-fur-fabrics/product/dark-grey-15mm-pile
Cyan highlights: https://www.mohairbearmakingsupplies.co.uk/index.php/fabric-room/faux-fur-fabrics/long-pile-faux-fur-fabrics/product/turquoise-ape-50mm-shag-pile
Lemon yellow: https://www.mohairbearmakingsupplies.co.uk/index.php/fabric-room/faux-fur-fabrics/long-pile-faux-fur-fabrics/product/wispy-lemon-25-70mm-pile

Ichihi, the dude who is the most popular illustrator for Furstar, is offering some made-to-order fursuits under his own studio again.
https://twitter.com/Mof_Fac

Guess the species.

>>9698220
Gremlin?

>>9698220
It's a bat.

>>9698220
Its pretty cute though.

>>9698272
I know this heavily Photoshop because such green sky

But man I love those colors on this suit

>>9698525
yeah, I agree! the colors go very well together, usually not a fan of similar color schemes

>>9698668
and as I post that I realize he's wearing boxers pls don't be a murrsuiter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpcI6bBrH0c
I do like the way air-inflated suits look more like plushies

>>9698672
what the heck that's adorable

Dropping some my the photos from the last Birmingham meet last week! Someone had a sign that they kept handing out that said 'I'm the real Tamari', dunno who that is and google just brings up soy sauce so I'm assuming it's a little inside joke that I'm missing but in case you were wondering about it, I don't know either V:

The venue actually got raided by a bunch of police right before we went on our walk. Turns out they had the wrong address and a couple of them stuck around for photos and a bit of interaction lol

All of our photographers at the meets are great t b h, there's always a bunch of really nice pictures of everyone

>>9695952
The reviews look iffy and many say it was difficult/time consuming to put together but yours looks good. Did you have an issues?

>>9698811
Apparently one of the fursuiters there is called Tamari, and someone made a copy of their suit. So they made the sign as a joke,

>>9698830
That looks like a great meet, and definitely nice with the temperature around this time of year, hope you enjoyed

where can i find some stretch fabric? I know it exists, but can't find it

>>9698979
Stretch fur or fabric? Fabric commonly goes by the names of lycra, spandex or tricot. Tricot is woven and warmer than the other two, which are synthetic.

>>9698989
Stretch fur, sorry. I don't care about the pile, I just want some white stretch fur

>>9699000
Generally most fur is slightly stretchy in one direction, but sorry i can't help you for that one specifically.

>>9698939
Oh that would make sense, I'm glad they seem to be taking it well in that case

>>9698965
Weather was a comfy 8 celsius and the rain stayed off. Can't really ask for better conditions in Britain around this time of year! Shame about the short days though. Probably gonna take my partial to the next couple of meets I go to and chill a bit more until spring rolls around.

>>9698979
Gonna have to import from japan through a proxy service I'm afraid. Doesn't seem to exist (as something for not specialty use (read: absurdly expensive (looking at you, NFT fur.))) outside of japan.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okadaya-shop.jp%2F1%2Fproducts%2Flist.php%3Fcategory_id%3D951

>>9698939
Wow do people really spend thousands of dollars copying other people's fursuits? Do they not think they wouldn't get noticed?(Though to be fair their design is as plain as they come but still, dick move.)


Awesome photos brumanon! They meet looks like a lot of fun I'm surprised you didn't get bombarded with the german market.

>>9699028
German market was like 2-3 days after the meet or I'm sure we would've had some fun there

>>9699012
How do I begin to buy this through a proxy service? I'm super new to buying stuff online

>>9698671
I'm surprised people here don't know about the famous kemono boxers.

>>9699047
>I'm super new to buying stuff online
Oh boy. First, make sure you have a debit card or the like, or a paypal account depending on who you're going with. Then find the proxy service, there's a fair number to choose from, all with their own strengths and weaknesses. There's even individuals who're willing to go out and get stuff for you, if you can find them.
Personally I've used Shopping Mall Japan, primarily to get LDs sent over, and hadn't had a single issue with using them to do so. (If you want to look into how they work, I'd advise on going through the old version of their site through the wayback machine. It's 90's-tastic, like a lot of the japanese web, but so much easier to navigate)
After finding what service works best for you, there should be ample information from said proxy service on how to go about ordering things through them. More than likely it's going to have to be a custom order of some sort 'cause buying a specific length of fur from a japanese fabric/hobby shop's going to be a bit different than the usual Yahoo auctions listing or amazon japan order.
Know beforehand though regardless of whom you go with, there's going to be the price of the item itself, the shipping from wherever the fur was to wherever the proxy service is located, then the shipping from the proxy service location to wherever you live (With SMJ, they have a US office that they batch ship stuff between, so that part's almost always slightly cheaper then it might be otherwise.), as well as whatever proxy fees that the service has for doing all of that.
The whole thing's a bit more work than getting something off eBay, but doing so opens up a whole host of otherwise hard to find items, or borderline impossible to get items, if you have enough self control to have the cash on hand to pay for it some time after initially ordering it.

Is it normal for fursuit makers to just not answer emails?

>>9699078
thank you so much for the detail anon!! I'll be making a paypal account soon, and I believe my card is a debit card already. I'll have a look at that Shopping Mall Japan and see if they'll be willing to get me some fur from that place.

Thank you so much for the help anon, maybe I'll get some extra cool stuff with this

>>9699082
in my experience i've had emails eaten and sometimes i've waited months for a response, i'd send the email again incase they didn't recieve the first

What type of content do you think the furry fandom is missing? Considering the over saturation of artists, fursuit makers, furtubers, etc

>>9699131
fight clubs

>>9699131
Cooking
also >>9699134

>>9699131
Honestly, this sounds really stupid, but I toyed with the idea of panels for fitness. Like, it would have to be in partials or something because that much sweat would not be fun for a fullsuit but I wanted to do calisthenics or small zumba type workouts for suiters and also talk about the important of health and personal safety when suiting, tie in hydration and knowing your limits etc.

So yeah, working out? I guess?

>>9699131
Basically anything that isn't from the arts.

>>9699151
>>9699134
And a relaxing spa

>>9699166
Cooking in suit

>>9699012
I didn't know you could use google translate for sites, that works much smoother than the chrome translate plugin
>>9699097
I've heard good things about this site too
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fe-nakano.net%2F

>>9699131
A fursuit maid cafe at every corner

>>9699180
At the college I went to they had google translate blocked, and for the longest time I had no idea why until I found out that it works as a pretty good makeshift proxy site. Made getting translations for japanese things there way harder than it should of been.
>May or may not of been the reason I had any reason to use tor ever.

>>9699073
I very much avoided furry-related boxers for murrsuiter reasons, it's not really that surprising.

>>9699222
But those spexific boxers are worn by everyone and their mom with a fursuit in asia because it was a brand collab with the famous kemono bara manga artist Hu Bang and were worn by his characters (pic related).

>>9699222
Yeah but a lot of people wear boxers without the fursuit being for sexual purposes, more so in Asia.

>>9699258
it's kind of a repeat of the whole harness =/= sexual thing I guess! some are, some aren't.

>>9698671
Sorry to disappoint, but with the amount of furry porn and pictures of this suit in sexual poses on this guy's twitter. Its probably a murr suit

>>9699259
oh shit i'm literally in the bg in this lmao

>>9698818
Wish they’d lop that stupid wig from the hampster.

I like this weird suit.

>>9699172
>cooking in suit
>looking adorable in an apron
>paws can't hold utensils
>paws can't hold anything
>can't open bags or boxes without ripping them
>drop ingredients all over
>try to use oven
>armsleeve catches on fire
>OwO;
>order pizza

>>9699367
Didnt it have a really tacky name though? I swear I remember this suit.

>>9699393
his names thump, not really tacky to me?

>>9699402
Guess it wasnt this guy then, cause thats pretty funny.

>>9698820
Ooh that badger looks cool.

Ok I liked that suit until the eye came out that's just gross

>>9699696
lol it's supposed to be a roadkill opossum I think it's a cool touch

A nice WIP

>>9699938
I'll take your nice wip and raise you a shite

>>9699938
how do 3D printed heads work anon? I'm very intrigued in making them but you and Sparky are the only people I've seen do it. Why do they have huge holes in them? how do you print something that big? Is it really expensive?

>>9700119

>>9700130
Different anon, but:
>Why do they have huge holes in them?
To save on weight, and filament.
>How do you print something that big?
Print the thing in question in multiple parts and attach them together after the fact.
Is it really expensive?
Strictly for the print, not terribly so (depending on how much filament's used for both the part itself and the supports as necessary.) but printers can run you quite a bit, especially if we want a decent print volume (bigger than ~25cm3, like most printers.) 3D printing's quite the rabbit hole though if you do get a printer, so if the idea of rewriring things and modding the printer with 3D printed parts to make it work better/do different things and/or working with polygons to make the models to print in the first place puts you off, then it might not be for you.

Context: this person has never made a fursuit before so someone offered them a head base commission for £50. This is the reply

>>9700157
What anon said. I make my own custom 3d bases too because i can model mysef and have a cheap and bigger volume diy printer myself too. For me its more reliable, cheap, easily customizable and you have a virtual preview of what youre gonna get. Its also less hot than a foam baseand not as basic like a resin base, you cannot customize a master mould + you have perfect symmetry.
My zeraora base (attached) was about 350g which equals 10$ in print material. I also used the holes to save material and in some places they serve for ventilation

>>9700204
What. How does he expect anyone to get him a base for less than 50. Ive seen a couple go for lower but for custom made or actually salvagable work ur not gonna find it cheaper than 50.

>>9699696
it's cool, and it's also interchangeable. quit bein' a pussy.

>>9700236
How much did a 3D printer cost you?

>>9699381
>Not being able to handle food while suiting
Step your game up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRhtt_cOuws

Someone is selling some dragon kemo suit at Y!A.
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w205679558

>>9700130
Eh, don't do a shitton of makers do 3D printed head nowadays? There is at least 20 I would know from FA alone with at least 5 into kemono.

>>9700354
His fingers extend out of his paws though that's cheating.

>>9700270
150eu for an Anet A8. Keep in mind these are chinese diy printers they require some electronical and mechanical knowledge to properly put together and get actual proper prints. I pay around 20eu for 1kg of filament, anything higher is a scam imo.

>>9700451
Sethaa is one of the most known ones i think, but I don't see a lot desu. And sethaa uses so much kemono style whereas I think 3d printing is the opportunity to explore tons of different shapes ( i think she has realistic too though)

>>9700445
Those horns look so sad and flat. Suit is allright though.

>>9700239
No no read it again, they.'re apparently an amazing craft person who's so talented they don't need a base! Despite never making a head before or having a budget lol

>>9700451
>Print 3D bases
>Can print literally anything that can exist in 3D space.
>Static jaws
But why? I don't know how into moving jaws kemono builders are, but that seems like such a easy little improvement to make.

>>9701097
Yeah i was wondering that myself too desu, but for kemono it'll look a bit weird and hard to look good with the fur I guess? I don't really see all that many kemono style heads with actual moving jaws.

>>9700859
Sethaa is hardly known by anyone, that would be Tioh as he was the very first person to do 3D printed headbases and made a shitton of guides on it for the fursuit livejournal while offering a lot of his models online for free

Tbh, in the end it is cheaper to 3D print a mold when doing mass-production (Atalon does that for vacuum forming for example).

>>9701252
>Tbh, in the end it is cheaper to 3D print a mold when doing mass-production
Yeah I was thinking of doing that myself aswell, but then more for silicone mould purposes (use a 3d printed shell as master mould support rather than fragile plaster or toxic fiberglass). But vacforming makes so much more sense especially for these front facing masks! Thanks for that.

>>9701252
Just had a look through the gallery pages of these people, and while Sethaa is the better sculptor of the two, Tioh seems to utilize the head holes way more effectively. Setheaa seems to just throw a handful of holes into the mesh and be done with it, zero finesse in the layout and balance of kept form vs a lighter head/cheaper to print.
I'm not seeing anything in the way for buying headbases from Tioh, so this next point doesn't apply to them, but Setheaa does. While her sculpts are really good, they're all incredibly generic and rather same faced. For the kemono bases that seems to come with the territory for better or worse, but for the others they all look like only the small area of the muzzle was somewhat altered between them (unless she couldn't get away with that, and still only really changed out the muzzle area). You could get the bases edited ever so slightly for 30eur more on top of ~60-80eur, but it's still going to be massively same faced because it's still effectively the same mesh.
Do people really want pre-designed head bases for their characters so (their heads at least) all look exactly the same with only fur length and pallet swap to change things up, especially when we have the ability to make 100% custom, symmetrical, on model headbases?

>>9701352
I agree with everything you said completely. I like the fact that you can completely make a new base from scratch without fucking up on prototypes or having to build an entire new mould, so I'm going to take advantage of that, if I ever want to open a fursuitmaking studio (which I do really want to do).
I think it's a very nice market opportunity to provide people with completely custom built base for their suit, exactly how they want their character to look like.

>>9701442
There's always failed prints, but that's more akin to having a base clay sculpt have weird air pockets or something rather than doing everything right and just having a bad sculpt to begin with.

>>9701352
Completely symmetrical is uncanny valley though. There has to be minor differences to stop the creepy factor, even if you don't realize it. A perfectly identical mask on both sides just comes across as Chinese bootleg with no personality and effort. I'm not saying have a lop sided mask, but I am saying even professional mascot costumes have that small variation. I mean you're welcome to argue if you wanna get salty but that's my two cents from years of making latex masks for TV, which are really creepy.

>>9701549
For anything approaching realistic and closely fits what a human face looks like, especially if it's going to be moving entirely with the muscles under the wearers face (like with a latex mask), yea it can look kinda creepy. But for obviously cartoony and not even remotely human like faces, you can get away with having perfect symmetry. Putting some deliberate irregularities into the headbase to make it less symmetrical can help with going that one step up, but that's extra work for most people who're usually going to have fairly symmetrical characters to make fairly symmetrical suits of in the first place.

Suiters: Do you dress up for Christmas? Do you do any special events or activities in suit for the holidays? Please share stories and photos.

Fuck Thanksgiving I need Yuletide cheer up in this bitch.

>>9701985
I only got into suiting this past year so no personal experiences but I do see people wearing festive stuff on their suits and other seasonal stuff around those times of year

>>9701985
I don't randomly suit in public, so no.

>>9701571
Kek you got salty because you mirror your sculpt like an amateur

>>9702611
?? bruh it makes sense to have irregularities in latex masks but for fur covered cartoony head bases symmetry is what you need. Hell, nobody will notice if the corner of the mouth is a bit lower on one side, but i've seen so many foam head bases that are so horrifying on symmetry. It is important to be in control of what is symmetrical and what needs to be irregular and that's what a digital preview would help you a lot with. Because you're in control where the irregularities go (if you want any at all).

>>9702611
>Agrees with the poster in the use case they have reference to
>Doesn't point out how uncanny valley doesn't really apply here because that explicitly deals with how close to human something is, not anthropomorphic.
There's legitimate reasons for having symmetrical heads/characters, means you only need one set of character sprites for both directions instead of two, means you only need to use half the uv space for a character model, and also means you can have better compression of game assets if you only really need half of the data.
Also what >>9702617 said about having it be easier to match sides up and put in realistic asymmetrical aspects if you can have it be symmetrical to begin with.

Is there a new place where photographers dump their pictures that isn't social media? My favourite flickr photographers seem to be slowing down

>>9702549
So what, you just wear your suit at home by yourself?

Update on my wing prototype from previous thread >>9677209
Got the latex sitting to dry, might do another layer then paint. Got a photoshoot on sunday so hopefully it's going to work out and I have some awesome pictures to show.

>>9701985
be the brightest star you can, anon. my mother let me store the head here for 3 weeks

>>9702777
For some reason I feel like this looks morbid.

>>9702799
I mean wasn't as morbid as my friends tree.

Any fursuit suppliers doing black friday deals?

>>9702777
ooh I knew I recognised that head from somewhere, you're the anon who goes to the Liverpool meets. I tried to join the group but the admins kept declined me. Then I messaged a couple of them to say I wanted to come down for one of the meets and they never got back to me.

>>9703067
I suppose I'm asking if you could help me out haha, I'd still like to come down to one of the meets but my attempts to contact the group earlier left me frustrated

>>9703082
Oh hi anon!! I'm pretty much the unofficial greeter for the group, throw a friend request to me on facebook, my name is Natasha Griffin (send me a message so I know it's you). The staff have been having a bit of issues lately but they've had a huge reform so hopefully there aren't as many! I'll look into why they were declining you. Add me on fb and I'll look into getting you added. I may not be going to the December meet but I'll introduce you to people who are going and friendly.

happy thanksgiving friends!!

>>9703262
oh thank you, I think I added you a few weeks ago when we discussed the Liverpool and Birmingham meets but I forgot about it after getting cold shouldered ` ~`
I'll send you a message later tonight, I'd like to visit but it'll be sometime in the new year. I'm going down to the Sheffield meet this weekend to meet with someone I chatted to about roomsharing at confuzzled, and theeeen I really gotta go to the Birmingham one in December to pick up my DTD from someone adjusting one of my bodysuits so I can mail it off to a maker for a new suit for next year

>>9703262
I sent you a message on FB but it's giving me a message saying you're unavailable, assuming you might have messages for non-friends turned off? I sent you a friend request anyway, I'm Nathan

So how many of you are going to mff? Its my first fur con and the closer the date gets, the more nervous I get.

>>9700901
I read it as she was saying she had great respect for talented artists, so as not to offend the base maker. Lots of parents won't spend money on things kids will grow out of.

>>9703795
I know they're going for a galaxy look, but the white speaks just look more like dandruff than stars

Finished my demon wings, paintjob was a hell

>>9703795
Oo I like this, the colors and markings are wonderful

>>9704348
I think it looks nice t b h

>>9704372
Looks good, even if the wing fingers coming out of the forearm / claw stub thumb look.
I'm curious as to how you're going about controlling the motor while in costume, plus where you're sticking the batteries.
Are you prone to hunching over much while wearing that? I've noticed when wearing mine that I'm prone to hunching over more than I'd like even though they really don't weigh that much.

>>9704391
*even if the wing fingers coming out of the forearm / claw stub thumb look isn't really my thing.

>>9704391
The motor is remote controlled, i have a simple car RC in one hand to fold and unfold them, the battery is fairly small (3x 18650 li ion battery assembled myself, gives 11V) and fits in the back next to the motor.
I'm gonna do a testrun with them outside tomorrow when the sun's back up, but they're quite lightweight. I actually keep my back and shoulders straight up while wearing them, since they are quite top heavy and leaning either forward or backward will cause them to lean too far to one side. I guess i will see!

>>9704735
this doggo is still up for sale for the next day and a half or so
https://www.thedealersden.com/listing/new-grump-collie-by-mixedcandy/130315

Did anyone get a quote from amanojaku? I'm considering requesting one but I'm not sure I like their fur quality

>>9705804
I have an Amanojaku suit and I love it. It’s not as shiny as it looks and is very soft. They just have limited options

>>9705929
Do you have any pics? Also is the head foam or something else?

Is it bad if I really like old school suits?

>>9705975

>>9705804
>>9705929
>>9705966
The fur they use is from Shannon Fabrics as they get their fur from Okadaya which imports from Fabric.com but they send you fabric samples with your fursuit concept anyways (pic related). The head depends on what you get, some are resin but most are urethane foam (see https://www.instagram.com/p/f7ZgCvNuTs/ ).

>>9705976
>>9705975
I LOVE the old school suit so much! they're so precious.

>>9706024

c:

>>9705966
Anon answered before I could lol
>>9705977


Yeah, urethane foam is the base for mine personally. I’m sure it changes. They send you a pamphlet with fabric samples and other stuff like your order form. I’ve mentioned it in past threads haha

>>9704372
Amazing!

>>9706687

Great eyes, great mouth. Really cute ;v;

>>9705977
Do they send you this after the original payment?

>>9706709
They send it before, or at least they have every time I’ve talked to them

Last meet of the year this week, I kinda wanna just kick it back and maybe not even suit up

>>9707333
why not? suiting up in the cold is super comfy

This doesn't look anything like a Dutchie and the horns coming out of the face look pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Otherwise it isn't bad.

>>9708079
I see the DAD.

Horns are bad though

>>9708103
They look like duct tape.

>>9708079
i see the dutchie in it but yeah the horns would be better off not being there

Got my fur so updates for zeraora coming in!

>>9708353
ayy
coming along nicely

>>9708353
The muzzle looks weird as fuck and your blue strip looks too thick

>>9708561
I don't see it

>>9708561
Yeah i do think the blue thingy is too thick, i fattened it up with upholstery foam compared to the 'leaf' i had before, but the fur made it so much thicker.
Muzzle look better with the accessories? Its hard to tell shape on darker colors imo

>>9708137
Probably because they seem to be...sewn pvc.

>>9708668

I think the teeths and the nose are adding a bit of cringiness to this, while I think the eyes if well done can carry it, I'd try to get the nose as symetrical as possible to the pokemons and maybe 3D print some teeth, because fabric ones are gonna look a bit shoddy. I think the unfinished mouth interior might be why anon thinls the mouth looks funky. Nothing wrong with 3D printing a nose out too

It was Polly's 5th birthday last week.
5 M O R E Y E A R S

I'm not a furry but I'm going to MFF. How big is it compared to other furry cons? Any panels that y'all are going to?

>>9708854
desu probably just the dark fur making it look weird on pictures, wheras i'm pretty sure my base was looking good on this. Not sure what you mean with symmetrical but it's in the right place, the picture is angled so it looks off center? The lip looks kinda unfortunate maybe in this angle

>>9708867
MFF is the second biggest furry con in the world (anthrocon is 1), it might even be the first biggest within this year or next year.

Was viewing the venue MFF's hosted at (for getting a sense of the general layout), and this was in google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9809611,-87.8585268,3a,75y,62.18h,89.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipO-jC4m0OIG8JmQVq6MdVhuSuStAEBJSdiIuqhn!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipO-jC4m0OIG8JmQVq6MdVhuSuStAEBJSdiIuqhn%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya321.93643-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352

>>9708867
I think it's a little over 7k in attendance numbers, it's pretty massive. the dealer's den looks impressive this year, wish I could attend.

Question:

What kind of items do you usually buy in the dealer's den? What would you like to see more of? I just got into my second furry con. I kind of winged the first one but it ended up being fairly profitable and I really enjoyed the community as well so I would like to build myself up more. I make plush props and mediocre chubby cutesy art haha.

>>9708969
Furries really like physical items, so dolls, kigus, prints; if it's tangible they'll be on it. Commissions are okay if they're on site but if you have really good stuff then they can always take a card/contact info and commission you after

>>9708977
I was thinking about making chibi pink and blue dolls in different species that just had "YCH" embroidered on the face and no other real features as a joke/nod to that whole culture of commissions. Would that be funny or would I be stuck with a bunch of unmovable stock that no other fandoms would understand or want?

>>9708991
I think it'd be smart to make a limited batch first just to see how well it works and if it does, I'd keep going with it. Test the waters first along with your usual stock

>>9708856
Nah, she was retired.

>>9709062
I have my doubts

>>9708869
it's lopsided and at a weird angle (the nose). Also the whiskers look like craft foam with felt and look cheap ;-;

>>9708353
Nice, keep it up.

>>9709062
I can't stop staring at her tits. And not in a good way. What the fuck is wrong with the colors. Why is one white and one beige? This looks like they ran out of one color and patched it together with the closest they had.

>>9708969
I buy a lot of stickers, enamel pins, shirts..
I've bought one fursuit prop before, but honestly I look for cheaper, smaller things.
I've only gotten like 3 commissions in total from cons because the artists are usually backed up or dont deliver at the con

>>9709032
Thanks! I'll make a limited batch to test online before the con and see if there's interest.

>>9709261
I would love to do enamel pins someday but the order minimum and startup is a bit much for me now. I definitely want to try expanding to stickers, buttons, and keychains when I find designs that resonate with me! Little impulse buys seem like a good idea.

>>9709086
It is felt lol, i dont see any other way of doing them because it needs to be thin and floating

>>9708869
I think the fangs are too far apart desu, plus fabric teeth always look weird unless they're very big and toony, plastic or clay is the best way for smaller pointer teeth. and the nose is major wonky

Finished the flammie plushie i said I was making last thread!

>>9709555
Looks good!
Makes me wish I could paint stuff non solid colours without screwing it up.
How big is it? I'd guess ~40cm nose to tail.

>>9709555
cutie

>>9709250
Because the owner designed her like that.

>>9709443
Use minky or something. Felt is literally the cheesiest thing you can buy and it instantly turns a good costume bad.

>>9709560
It's nose to tail 80cm and 55cm tall when sitting straight up like in the picture.

>>9709589
Good point, i'll take a look at that in the usa. In my country I've not ever seen minky in this color, and usually if theres any minky its the weird dotted kind.

>>9709634
Geeze that's a sizeable plushy! I mean, they can get kinda large with life sized pokémon and the like, (It'd be cool to have a life sized snivy or similar, but space forever being at a premium, yea.) but I never see good ones much for the aforementioned size reasons, and details / proportions seem to get lost the larger they get, making 'em look kinda off putting. That plushy really looks half the size without any size reference.

>>9709555
That would make a cute, I have to try it sometime...

>>9709681
*cute fursuit

>>9709639
Thanks! I prefer making larger ones, it makes it easier to machine sew them. And a good pattern is the big playmaker here

>>9709682
>>9709681
Ikr, if I'd ever get a flammie fursuit request in the future I'd totally do it.

>>9708903
nice virus

>>9710035
?

Ichihi posted the upcoming new Furstar designs a while ago.
https://twitter.com/itihi3/status/935048711972855808
https://twitter.com/itihi3/status/935050560750751745

>>9710569
Is that a fucking *chan clover

>>9710583
Maybe Ichihi knows we are lurking at this point, he does speak english after all.

>used to comment on winfox live journal when he had he purged
>A lot of it had his old process of how to make his fursuit head,parts,fur, and body. I have some photos still saved but never posted out of respect
>winter break is coming soon and I want to just make my pursuit but i know I also don't want to be spammed with "do you do commissions" or "it's like winfox"

I've been sitting on this project forever, and I think I might just go through with it.

>>9710805
before he*

>>9698813
>>9698814
These are such fun photos.

>>9699367
>>9699402
This suit is great!

>>9706687
Very cute.

>>9704372
These look so nice!

>>9710805
Even if you use the same methods, it won't look the same anyways and that kind of style was pretty common in furry art for long time thanks to Dr. Comet.

>>9710805
Would you be willing to email it to me? I honestly only want to know how to do a good tight bodysuit. I’m not the biggest fan of his heads

>>9709634
>Good point, i'll take a look at that in the usa. In my country I've not ever seen minky in this color, and usually if theres any minky its the weird dotted kind.

It's pretty much the same in the states. Our major craft/fabric stores usually only carry the dotted kind or really low quality versions of their own stuff. Fabric.com is your best bet.

>>9709634
Aren't you in the UK? Minky is easy to find stop looking for excuses all the time. I don't even get why you posted your suit here when you've been dismissive of everyone trying to help you.

>>9711361
they're eu

>>9711361
I post my wip to receive feedback but your tone is miserable so i've not been giving much value to yours.

>>9711404
Sounds like you were hoping for ass pats

>>9711361
she isn't from the uk tho?

>>9711788
people who aren't in your discord wouldn't know that lol

Seems like the first K-Line showcase cat is done soon (while they still didn't finish the first, second or third wave), pretty sure it is for some con staff again.

>>9711790
then don't assume shit m8

>>9711790
she has cosplay accounts on FB I think and I'm pretty sure she brought up in the thread before where she was from. I believe it was in a past thread while she was ordering fur, as she is the same anon who made the lucario suit seen recently.

mff floor wars was 10/10

is it worth going to MFF tomorrow or is it like anime cons where everyone is leaving or asleep on the last day?

>>9709443
Try sandwiching the foam with a wire in the middle, then maybe you can add fur, or try a sturdier material like plastic?

>>9711793
There’s something about their fur length choice that makes the suits look bad.

>>9712001
well it's not for an internal member of staff so why would they put effort into it. the last suit they unveiled at infurnity looked bad too lol and I think the owner only wore it for the k-line photoshoot

>>9711986
Atm does have a wire in the middle, i might add a sleeve of proper fabric over the felt later when I find matching fabric. I don't think I want to do plastic, the texture will be very different from the rest of the suit then.
Love that quad you posted!

>>9712093
omg that fish is so fat

>>9712001
Yeah I agree, and the design isn't very much attracting me either, but I would have to see the complete suit to judge desu.

>>9712001
That's just generic short-pile and the design in question was one of the short-hair cats, the long-hair ones were drawn differently.

Seems like they finally started on the green deer from the second wave but it looks like a frog.

>>9712252
I think the snout looks like a frog because it's so short

>>9712254
It looks like a frog because they forgot the nose.

>>9695307
Kys

>>9712263

HOW SHOCKING!

>>9712263
finally, I get a chance to use this image

>>9712263
what’s wrong, anon? could it be.........., you’re craving my mcnuggies???//

>>9712256
Have they not put it on yet or are they just lazy as usual? And again, the fur looks really cheap. Too short pile.

>>9712346
Damn, the fursuit reallly doesn’t capture the refsheet

Does anyone know where US fursuit makers get their fur from? It's infinitely better than anything I have seen at fabric stores.

>>9712346
How is anyone supposed to put it on when they only started making it? Makes no sense, it doesn't even have its lashes or horns either yet.

>>9712346
That's Shannon Fabrics's seal short-pile, that's neither cheap nor bad quality.

>>9712447
It's usually Mendel's or Shannon Fabrics fur, there are a shitton of resellers for those.

dont we have a discord? how do i get added to it?

>>9712536
https://discord.gg/K3J2sW

if that link doesnt work we'll have to get the admin to make a new one

While we're talking about where to get fur, does anyone have any idea where I could find long-pile muted dark purple fur? I have looked at literally every place that sells faux fur and have come up with nothing that's close, just very bright purples that are too neon. Closest is the alpaca shag in plum but its too curly for what I need, any suggestions? Am I at the point I just need to try and dye it myself?

>>9712479
I meant the nose

>>9712588
Like this? Would be usually sold as "aubergine" but idk when Mohair Bear Making Supplies restocks it.

>>9712666
That's the closest I've seen yet, holy crap thank you anon. I can try giving that place an email to see if they're going to restock.

I'd never seen Mohair Bear mentioned before so I had a look for my hard-to-find colour of choice as well, though it seems like swatches alone are almost $30 for me.

Before I order, does anyone know of any suits that use their soft lime mink? Right now I've got a sample of luxury shag olive from Fabric.com but I'm worried it may be too long.

>>9712850
I ordered with mohair before, and just like you I had the swatch problem, so I straight up ordered everything. I do have to note that some of their pictures are outdated and have poor lighting that does not show the color well (thankfully it worked out for me that way, i counted on it). I checked out your specific listing, and it certainly has the same problem, it has poor lighting, so I added a color correction.
As long as you pay a bit attention to their premium prices you can figure out what is the good quality and worse quality stuff.

>>9713085
You've just saved me $30 with that colour correction, it's much too bright for what I need so I'll probably go with the olive I've got in the end. It's less of an olive and more of a very muted light green.

Thanks for sparing my wallet, anon.

>>9713093
Exactly, this is definitely a bright lime green and not olive at all like I figured you were thinking.
This is the wispy lemon I got from them, comparing it to their site picture and the actual color.

>>9711404
Oh shit we got a sensitive anon who doesn't like criticism on their lop sided face and cheap felt. Grow up you piss baby and quit posting for ass pats. People here have been trying to help you improve your suit but your attitude is so fucking toxic and elitist. Your suit is shit kill yourself you're a cancer to the fursuit community

>>9714333
Wow butthurt

>>9714333
>cancer to the fursuit community
A cancer to a cancer? So, a good? :^)

link to discord please.

>>9714462
nvm its late im going to sleep.

heh

>>9714333
>U r soo toxic
>O by the by kys
fuck off mate

Amanojaku finally updated their Twitter.

Hey lambchop, I'm not sure if you are in the discord, but I wanted to say it was amazing running into you at mff. One of the highlights of my con really.

>>9715510
Omigosh, I was so excited when I ran into you (there were quite a few seagulls at mff this year). It was so nice seeing this suit in person and you did an amazing job. I look forward to whatever else you make definitely keeping an eye on your twitter!

Can I get a discord link?

>>9714985
Jesus fuck that looks good
I want a suit like that

>>9717388

Same here Mr. Hitler. I really like the accessories as well; I actually wore a black/nickle collar and leather jacket my junior and senior years of hs.

>>9717388
definitely one of my fav suits. he's made by oneeyeddoe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojQfa_bfrs
>Man who hated furries goes to a furry convention
>Comes out understanding why they do what they do and says he had fun

Soon, you too, can be the most obnoxious con attendee ever! Play your loudest, most annoying electro-swing as people cover their ears in an attempt to stop the bleeding!