/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

My dress got shipped to Kentucky and I got a pair of sunglasses instead. The labels got swapped apparently so I couldn't even get help from USPS since they were technically delivered to the right place. I did end up getting the dress in the end but it was through no help of the post or the seller.

Got followed around, verbally threatened and filmed by a bunch of guys on my way to a meet, dozens of bystanders but nobody said a thing, then when I told girls at the meet about it and described the guys (because they asked me to) a few girls implied I was racist and purposefully misunderstanding a cultural difference to suit my "agenda". That was a fun day.

>>9587424
What the fuck

>>9587426
The verbal harassment and apathetic bystanders is pretty common in my city unfortunately, but I definitely wasn't expecting other lolitas to side with the men yelling that they were going to "fuck me back to normal". Not all of them, thank Mana, but enough to ruin the meet for me.

>>9587430
I was commenting on the girls berating you more than anything. Good to know that being harassed is totally political and depends entirely on your personal agenda, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. I'm sorry your comm is home to shitheads, anon.

>>9587436
SJWs, man. They ruin everything.

My very first meet, VM 2009 dress I got second hand. See the waiter wobbling toward our table with an iced tea pitcher that was way overfilled, almost spilling as he walked. Know he's gonna spill it on me, move to decline a refill, would rather thirst. He pours the tea all over the table and all over the left side of my skirt. Other girls are safe. Try not to cry. Tell other girls I'll be ok. Subtle guilt the guy while he stands there that this is my first dress and that he should know not to try to side pour with a pitcher that full. Give the waiter death glares reast of time and no tip.
It washed out ok cause luckily cold tea and off white lace and floral print, but seriously fuck that guy. Sometimes i wonder if he did it on purpose.

I posted here back when it happened, but for my theatre group we had a day where we brought an item that represented us. I wanted to take one of my skirts, and stupidly put it in one of the large pockets in my messenger bag. Unbeknownst to me, there was an open red marker that proceeded to stain my skirt in four or five places, and the stains have never come out. I showed off some Broadway merchandise instead, and was depressed for a week. RIP, Alice's Mirage in PARADOX...

>>9587424
>things that definitely happened

>>9587439
>seriously fuck that guy
He seems like he might have been new. Overfilling the pitcher is a common newbie mistake. Yes, he messed up, but everyone makes mistakes. Have you never accidentally spilled anything? As a waitress who's slipped during my first week and spilled wine, I empathize with him. The couple I spilled the wine on were very nice and understanding, but I beat myself up over it for weeks.

>>9587439
you sound like my grandmother, who always expects people in the service industry to be perfect. unless you were a total bitch to the guy from the start, which reading your post i wouldn't be surprised it you were, i seriously doubt he would do it on purpose. get over yourself and grow up.

>>9587424
this sounds too crazy to be real, but on the chance it is, your comm sucks.

>>9587506
my condolences

>>9587410
Got period blood in my bloomers

>>9587439
You sound rude af honestly. I understand why you'd be upset but your reaction was horribly childish. I'm sure the guy felt bad enough without you guilt tripping him. Also, imo it reflects poorly on the whole group when people don't tip/tip too low. Your comm should be ashamed of you.

>>9587439
I sincerely hope you don't make mistakes ever because you lack compassion

>>9587439
I feel like all these gulls shitting on you for "being rude" are poorfag waitresses. You have every right to be angry when someone spills shit on you, and I'm glad you didn't give a tip. It would be ridiculous to tip someone who ruined your clothes.

>>9587589
I know right.

>>9587589
You can be angry without acting like a rude brat. I wasn't going to reply to op, but their post rubbed me the wrong way too. Get over it, the dude messed up, but she/he didn't have to throw a passive aggressive tantrum.

>>9587603
>passive aggressive
>tantrum
Chose one anon.

>>9587589
Being angry is fine. Rubbing it in and giving 0 tip is not. All she had to do was finish her meal and leave the bear minimum tip.
>also I'm in medical school I just happen to have manners.

>>9587589
So I've been working at a waitress as part time job and what I'd have done in her place in that situation/or what I'd have expected would be: a free drink and the restaurant/cafe/whatever offering to pay for the cleaning. That's it.

One has the right to be angry about stuff like that, because it can ruin a whole day, yet one shouldn't get unnecessarly rude as a waiter is probably also just a person who idk wants to pay off his student loan, safes up for sth or whatever. Sage for OT

>>9587439
>tell the other girls i'll be ok
>give waiter death glares
>washed out ok
>wonder if he did it on purpose
i'm laughing so hard at how dumb this whole post is. same thing happened to be a while back, i asked the waiter to pay for the dry cleaners and all was good. no need to hold this vendetta and go in depth wondering if he purposefully did it. god anons on here are so childish it's hilarious.

>>9587439
This reminds me of some idiot youtuber clickbait storytime video.
>"LOLITA HORROR STORY! You won't believe what he did to me!"
>Waiter accidentally spills some ice tea on me, traumatizing, I know. Lucky for him it came out, but I still got revenge by making him very uncomfortable and feel even more guilty by staring at him! Evil guy did it on purpose because everyone is against me and my fashion waaaah! I took the high road, and didn't leave him a tip though!

>>9587613
>medical school
>bear minimum

>>9587624
I feel like she probably could have just gone to the restroom and ran cold water over it. Iced tea isn't even that strong, it probably would have come out really easily cleaner or no cleaner

>>9587613
>bare minimum tip
That's zero buddy, tip isn't required.

>>9587624

>>9587439
You did the right thing not tipping. Tips are optional and meant as a reward for doing a good job. He obviously did not do a good job, and so then deserves no tip.
And I'm saying this as someone from a family that's left $100 tips before, as well as regularly leaving $20 to $50 as a tip.

>>9587631
she could have indeed. instead of marinating in my own self-pity i would have ran to the bathroom and washed myself off. i've done it a few times with various foodstuffs (one time it was bright red cherry syrup on a white dress) but i've been able to get it out in the bathroom every time because the sooner the better.

OP kind of sounds like a brat without common sense.

>>9587613
OP didn't say what country she's from, the US's standard tipping at least 5% even if service was awful isn't the global norm. It's fair to assume she was American because she mentioned iced tea and the rest of her comm tipping, but she might not have been.

>>9587554
Thanks, anon. Someday I'm going to get the JSK to make myself feel better.

>>9587439
More info. He was not new. I was not rude until he spilled shit on me. Only waiters that do a good job gets tips, spilling shit on me is a good reason for me not to tip, and I normally tip double cause I'm not a poorfag. While taking orders he had the over bearing confidence of a long time waiter that thought he was God's gift to female diners.

>>9587439
>>9587780
You were still in the right, he probably over-filled the pitcher just so he wouldn't have to do two runs to fill the whole table, which is just laziness on his part, and not caring that he slopped on customers is just bad service. All of that equals no tip. People have been fired for less in classier establishments.

>>9587424

FICKI FICKI

>>9587624

>>9587424
It's time to solve the negro problem. I have a final solution of sorts if anyone wants to hear it

>>9587641
>>9587638
Do you fuckers realize employers in the US use tips as an excuse to not pay people minimum wage, AND if you don't give it to them in cash it gets taxed (like if you use a card and leave the amount to tip on the receipt)? There's a fucking REASON it's considered fucking horrible not to leave a tip. If the service was terrible leave 10% or something, but leaving nothing is a shitty thing to do to someone who was probably not out to fucking get you. Goddamn children.

>>9588082
or maybe you don't get to tell me what to do with my money you preachy fucker

>>9588082
What if instead of making it a requirement for the people who are not in charge of minimum wage to subsidize waiters paychecks with tips we go after the real assholes that are making waiters work like dogs for nothing.

Dont you think instead of infighting with ourselves that maybe America needs to change the shitty ass way they treat waiters?

Tipping should always be OPTIONAL, the fact that America does not view it this way is fucking retarded and you dumb asses are too upset over not being tipped to realize you shouldnt even have to be tipped

>>9588082
Honestly surprised people actually work in hospitality over there, I wouldn't touch that shit with a ten foot pole, relying on tips just to get paid properly seems like a pretty shit deal tbqh.

>>9588090
Most make more than minimum wage with tips, and under-report their cash tips so they pay less taxes.
In my state, waitstaff make minimum wage before tips even, but you're still expected to tip

>>9588088
Why are you calling anon out for "infighting with ourselves" when you bitching at them is just as ineffective? Do you think x major restaurant/hospitality conglomerate is browsing /cgl/ waiting for the go-ahead to pay employees a living wage?

>>9588105
Because im so damn tired of people shaming others for not tipping when the real issue is that waiters should be making a real wage to begin with.

But all I EVER see is people bitching about other middle and low class americans tipping too low. Its fucking infuriating.

>>9588082
Not everyone lives in the US anon

>>9588082
If it is such a truly awful deal, why in the name of god do people still work as waiters? Clearly something is making it worth it for them, because they could have taken on a million other jobs instead.

>>9587410
One time I went to a meet and there was a fatty-chan there.
>tfw cried

>>9587554
>my grandmother, who always expects people in the service industry to be perfect.
When your grandma was young they probably were, because people expected some fucking service instead of cutting them slack all over the place. It wasn't that long ago that one fuckup of this kind would just straight up get you fired if you were older than 12.

>>9588124

If you're attractive you get more tips and can earn well above the living wage.

One of my friends who worked in the US on a visa would pull in 500 a day in tips because she was a pretty Irish girl with a cute accent.

>>9588082
It's not our fault your system is fucked. Why should anon pay a guy extra for spilling tea on her, just because he chose a shitty job he isn't even good at?

The guy in secret 6

>>9588164
Exactly, people are all like "blame the system, not the waiters! but keep contributing to the system by tipping them, thanks." Asian countries and most European countries don't have this fuckheaded way of doing things, but I guess things are never gonna change.

>>9588082
I recommend you see: >>9588163 and >>9588096 because if you're a DECENT waiter, and not a lazy asshole like OP mentioned, you make more than minimum wage, and it's tax-less.

Just because you seem slow, I'll lay it out in an example for you: Competant Bob is a waiter, his shift is 4 hours long and spans 5pm to 7pm, known as the "dinner shift". During this shift, Competant Bob handles 6 seperate tables seating 4-6 people. Due to the price of food at Bob's restauraunt, a dinner for 4-6 will cost between $100 and $150. Social pressure has determined that to be considered non-deadbeats, you must tip 15% of the total bill.

How much will Competant Bob make in tips in one shift? How much will his lazier and less compentant co-worker, Shithead Ted, make in tips he fucks up half of his tables in his shift?

Are you ready? Let's get calculating, slow children!

>>9588183
Holy shit, if he goes through 4 tables in an hour that's upwards of $200!!
Fuck waiters complaining about tips! Fucking greedy assholes!

>>9587558
same. at a con, and the wind blew but only one person saw the horror

The first time I EVER got a rude remark, (older woman angrily accused me of being a sexual predator,) happened to be the first time I ever wore lolita around my in-laws. Literally wanted to an hero at that exact moment.

>>9588189

That wasn't the point of my comment. The point was that it makes to be a very nice parttime job if you're attractive and/or competent, plus it's tax free money, which is huge because past the poverty level mark, you have to pay at least 10% in taxes.

Calm your tits, nobody is saying waiters are greedy, just that there are pros and cons to the system, but honestly IMO the cons outweigh the pros particularly for someone who depends on waiting as a job.

>>9588110
Agree, I live in a country where people get paid for their work & I found the states embarassing, staff seemed to be begging/fake being nice/even fake flirting with an air of quiet desperation behind it. Even the bitch at victoras secret wrapping up my underwear felt entitled to a tip. It was weird & I felt dirty afterwards.

>>9588082
If the waiter doesn't make minimum wage, the employers are required by law to make up the difference. The only reason waiters bitch about tips is because they're not making more than minimum wage. It's not the customer's responsibility to pad your wallet if you're shit at your job.

>>9588230
>Bitch working at VS felt entitled to a tip
What are you on?? You don't tip in stores like that, I don't even know if it's allowed. Not everyone in the service industry gets tips, mainly just waitresses/waiters. What would you have preferred? People being rude to you? You're the one who sounds entitled.

>>9588183
Shithead Ted has slopped smores pancakes with blueberry sauce all over Little Miss Rufflebottom's burando.
How long does he have to live before she slips out the back exit during his smoke break and cuts him in the back alley where no one can hear him scream?

>>9588269
Have you shopped lately? Everyone has a tip jar now, and they get sour-faced if you don't at least drop your change in it. It's like they're busking by acting like underpaid emos, I'm not paying them extra to stand there and look snotty.

>>9588269
Nayrt but when I visited the US a few months ago, practically every store had a tip jar next to the register. We ended up dumping all our change in one of them on the last day before flying home.

>>9588196
I used to not wear bloomers because I didn't see the point. Then a gust of wind lifted my entire skirt up above my face one day and I flashed half a dozen people waiting at the bus stop. At least I was wearing cute panties and there wasn't any period blood on them, I guess?

>>9588270
Depends, will Little Miss Rufflebottom risk getting blood on her burando as well as blueberry sauce or does she go home first to change into a plastic apron?

>>9588290
Miss Rufflebottom is smart and always carries a Fabulous Dexter brand portable mobile murder kit in her bottomless burando purse.

>>9588297
w2c

>>9588298
Fabulous Dexter? Or his portable mobile murder kit? Or did you mean the bottomless burando purse?

>>9588164
If our system is so fucked, why does everyone like our food service so much?

>>9588082
All the reason more not to tip and get rid of this shitty fucking system.

>>9588273
>>9588290
Don't tip them unless they did a good job. It doesn't matter if they "look at you mean" if they didn't do anything special they don't get anything special

If everyone is paying separate and I spill tea on one person at the table I know right then not to expect much if any tip from them because I'm not stupid.

>>9588273
>everyone has a tip jar
Sorry I don't go to small mom and pop stores I guess? None of the big department stores or grocery stores, where I usually go, even allow tips. If you tell them to keep the change, they aren't allowed to keep it.

>>9588368
I agree that unless someone did a good job, they don't deserve a tip. But really? Not tipping someone who did a great job just to say, "fuck the system"! You're an asshole.

>>9587670
>she was American because she mentioned iced tea
I don't see the connection

>>9588500
>Victoria Secret
>mom & pop
Stop pretending you're elite.

>>9588361
Uhh, not sure where you're hearing that everyone loves America's food service so much, but a lot of foreigners think it's weird how waitstaff keep smiling at you for no reason.

>>9588569
It's not very popular in other countries, esp. the UK, the main English-speaking country where tipping isn't compulsory. Definitely not popular enough here for there to be a whole jugful of it for a table instead of someone just ordering it for themselves.

>>9588866
>goes big department stores which are far cheaper than family fun businesses (Walmart, Target, etc)
>pretending to be elite
ok sure anon

>>9588888
Iced tea is pretty damn popular in Australia right now. And tipping isn't compulsory in basically every country that isn't America.

Not everyone is in the UK or America.

>>9588961
That's why I said "it's fair to assume" not "it's automatically true". When she posted it was the middle of the night in Australia as well.

>>9588970
>no one is awake at night
Besides, I'm not saying she's Australian. I'm saying it's dumb to assume anything, especially based on something like iced tea.

Especially the people dog piling on her because "OMG IF YOU DON'T TIP IN AMERICA YOU'RE A SPOILED CUNT", when she might not even be American. The level of salt is so unnecessary.

>>9587424
fuck political correctness. I only ever was harassed in lolita by black and arab/moroccan shitheads. Also got assaulted by a group of arab girls.
Not saying white people are pure angel I had my share too but holy fuck, nigs and sandnigs are breeding like rats and there are too many. And thanks to libs more and more are getting in.

>>9589162

>>9589273
But where is the lie? Keep your eyes closed and maybe the bad men will go away right?